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/lit/, can you answer me two questions?

If you could choose one of these men to be your personal tutor or at least a bro for you to have endless discussions with, who would you choose?

>> No.2236162

Machiavelli.

>> No.2236163

Marx.

>> No.2236166

>>2236163
fag detected

>> No.2236169

I'd bro out with Jesus. Guy was chill as fuck.

>> No.2236170

>>2236158
Why is Darwin on there but no Einstein or Schrodinger?
Turing.
inb4 buttsex

>> No.2236172

>>2236162
If you've read the version of the Prince with the translator's foreword, Machiavelli was actually a total failure in almost every field: war, politics, diplomacy, etc. Why would you want a loser to be your teacher?

>> No.2236173

>machiavelli
>angry evil furrowed brow

but he wasnt even a bad guy really. absolutely reasonable bro material.

>> No.2236177

>>2236166
Marx hat such terrible carbuncles that he couldn't even sit; not the best choice for homosexuals imho.

>> No.2236178

Bakunin or Marx

>> No.2236181

>>2236172

I'm attracted to him. Physically.

>> No.2236185

Freud.

>> No.2236186

>>2236178
>Bakunin
why not Chaadayev or Herzen? To me Bakunin was the least sensible of the bunch.
Anybody else reading Khadaffi?

>> No.2236187

Wittgenstein

>> No.2236194

>>2236187
>>2236174
>I really dont have anything to do with philosophy that isnt more than 150-200 years old.

>> No.2236197

Baudrillard
Descartes is second.

>> No.2236307

Somewhere between Aristotle and Epicurus. One of those three fellows.

I don't think I would be able to withstand modern philosophers. Not that I'm better or equal to motherfucking Aristotle, but I think I he is just what I need right now.

>> No.2236942

No Wittgenstein?
No Russell?

>> No.2236943

>>2236942
did you even look at the pic

>> No.2236945
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>>2236943
My browser didn't load the last two rows

>> No.2236947

Difficult choice. It's between:

>Machiavelli
>Nietzsche
>William James
>Spinoza
>Hume

>> No.2236948

sartre, maybe

>> No.2237065

dfw

or nietzsche?

>> No.2237080

>>2237065
This is how diehard DFW fanbois are. They see him even where he doesn't exist.

>> No.2237110

Rousseau.

>> No.2237115

The answer is obviously Diogenes

>> No.2237119

>>2237115

Just dont stand in his sunlight!

>> No.2237144

I have to choose one?
Epicurus, Machiavelli, Nietzsche
And where the fuck is Jefferson?

>> No.2237542

y no Camus?

>> No.2237557

Already picked Jesus, but Galileo would be pretty cool to hang with.

>> No.2237559

OP here, I didn't draw them or even gathered them, I just found the image as it is.

>> No.2237562

Definitely not a Greek.
Jesus, Galileo, Kant are all possible, but I don't speak Aramaic, Italian or German.

So I'm going with Hume.

>> No.2237571

...Machiavelli or Bakunin because I would have alot of fun showing them how people interpreted their work.

Descartes because fuck yeah.

>> No.2237573

wittgenstein
derrida
sartre
heidegger
socrates
all bro material

for a tutor
rorty
heidegger
maybe hume

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>>2237542
My thoughts exactly, including Sartre and Beauvoir but not Camus is questionable. Chomsky should also be included.

>Schopenhauer up in dis bitch

>> No.2237583

>>2237579

chomsky has the worst speaking voice of all time

maybe whoopi goldberg channeling chomsky's ghost?

>> No.2237587

Democritus by a land slide, who wouldn't want to bro out with the laughing philosopher?

>> No.2237590

Why would anyone want to hang around with Jesus? HIs philosophy is really entry level, assuming it is his at all and he was just a cool revolutionary, not anything extraordinary really. I'd rather go with Ghandi if you want someone peaceful who died for his cause.

>> No.2237593

>>2237579
you're a total fuckhead

>> No.2237597

>>2237590
Ghandi didn't die for his cause, he died because someone killed him, and he was not given a choice. He was a great guy and all, and the propaganda probably isn't too far off, but given a choice I'm sure he would have remained alive.

>> No.2237603

Russell because he's awesome.

Singer as I'm currently doing an essay which borrows heavily from his work so he could help me with it.

>> No.2237606

>>2237597
So would Jesus, see the the prayer in the garden of Gethsemane. He practically begged God to change his plan,

>> No.2237607

>>2237606
Sorry but I'm not going to do the Ghandi vs. Jesus thing nice try. But a lot of people who are said to have "died for their cause" wouldn't have chosen it. They're still martyrs and died *because* of it, I don't mean to lesson their accomplishments, like Dr. King or that kewl guy from V For Vendetta, but they probably would have preferred to live longer and affect more people.

>> No.2237613

>>2237607
Wasn't trying to start anything, just pointing out that Jesus wasn't exactly happy about the whole crucifixion thing.

>> No.2237620

>>2237613
OK, sorry too much coffee or not enough....And no way, I think he's depicted as jumping right up there onto the cross but I don't believe it happened that way at all. Last Temptation of Christ was excellent about this. Norman Mailer's Gospel According to the Son was also a good read, though I read it a long time ago and say that with hesitation.

If sacrifice is easy it isn't sacrifice, right?

>> No.2237625

>>2237620
I agree, I mean. Must. Stop. Typing. Unable to communicate cleerlee

>> No.2237628

Who the fuck is foucalt?

>> No.2237631

>>2237590

I want to hang with him because he seemed like a bro. Fuck philosophical discussion, I just want someone I could shoot the shit with, and Jesus seems like he was a pretty cool guy.

>> No.2237633

>>2237628

a cool bald guy who wrote cool things about discourse and power

read discipline and punish and/or history of sexuality

>> No.2237632

Hobbes but not Calvin ?

>> No.2237635

>>2237632

I like your style Anon, you can fuck my sister anytime.

>> No.2237637

>>2237607

If you buy into the whole gospel telling of Christs story he was born with the knowledge he would be crucified, and it is also stated that he chose to sacrifice himself for mans sins etc. I don't think Gandhi could say the same, Also Gandhi really fucked his country up, he was one of the people responsible for the split of Pakistan from India, and the hostility of Muslims towards Hindus. He also never really secured India's independence from England it was GIVEN to India by England, which sends the message that it India wasn't capable of taking her freedom. This was mostly due to Gandhi's refusing to allow any sort of armed resistance movement to act. The simple fact that a armed revolt of India during the height of the Battle of Britain in WW2 would have probably been enough to free India from colonial control belittles Gandhi's philosophy.

>> No.2237636

>>2237633
Nah I know. But his name is actually foucault.

>> No.2237640

>>2237636

"who is fou calt" - ann rand

>> No.2237644

Kierkegaard or Marx. It depends on if I could show him to people or not, since Marx is currently more popular and influential worldwide than Jesus.

>> No.2237651

>>2237644
>Marx is currently more popular and influential worldwide than Jesus

Oh you ...

>> No.2237657

>>2237607
>>2237597
He died for his cause, of course he did! It doesn't mean he said "guys, going to kill myself for you now, please behave". He made that choice when he chose to fight for what he believed. His death is not unrelated to that and he knew it was possible for it to happen from the very beggining. Of course he would avoid it if he could at the particular moment, but who wouldn't?

I fail to understand what is your notion for "dying for his cause".

1. There was a choice and he made the noble one
2. Of course he would have avoided, just like any other person would. Do you think a soldier would rather die for his country than to fight just as fiercely and... survive? According to your logic, the only ones who can die for their cause are the ones fighting for eutanasia.

>> No.2237668

>>2237657
Dying FOR your cause, like Bobby Sands did, is different than dying BECAUSE of your cause, as a RESULT of your beliefs, like Martin Luther King did. Actually it's more the result of the murderers beliefs than the victims.

When you set out on a path that is likely to get your killed, and you do it anyway, that's a lot of wonderful things like "noble" and "courageous" and I actually have more respect for those folks who specifically choose death as a means of conveying their message. The latter seems self-important and cowardly.

>> No.2237670

that last guy

>> No.2237673

>>2237668
>>and I actually have more respect for those folks who specifically choose death as a means of conveying their message

should read
and I actually have more respect for those than I do for folks who specifically choose death as a means of conveying their message

Sorry, I can't continue this intellectual conversation because apparently I'm unable to communicate, just not working today!

>> No.2237675

>>2237668
But exactly how does that make Dr. King NOT brave? He lived in an area where a smart negro meant a lynchin. He knew damned well he COULD die, yet continue anyway.
I think you're just trying to up play the idea of suicide = heroism, which is ok. But matyrdom is matyrdom, whether forced on you or willingly excepted.

>> No.2237679

>>2237675
yeesh, so many spelling mistakes. Running off of 2 hours of sleep is terrible.

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2237680

Schopenhauer, because I sincerely believe he's the most attractive person on there.

Hopefully after being heartbroken by every woman he ever tried to seduce, he'd be up for occasional love making with a petite male.

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>>2237668
>a man is a coward for being shot by some idiot because he believed in something

>> No.2237684

>>2237680
Think about it differently: there was a reason women didn't want him. Careful with what you want, bro...

>> No.2237685

>>2237680

That's the most depressing post I've seen this week.

>> No.2237686

My first choice would be Thoreau, then I remembered he likes to be alone, so not him...
Then I thought Sartre but he would eventually make us both depressed, so not him...
Therefore I'm going with Arthur Schopenhauer because
> A: he hated women
> B: he thought suicide was week
> C: he knew that mortality is final

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2237689

Pythagoras or Russell. The only non-mathematician I would hang out with would be Sartre, because he seems like a bro.

>mfw picking filthy non-mathematicians

>> No.2237696

Hume. He was a total bro. Also he spoke English so we could actually converse, unlike half the dudes in that pic.

>> No.2237702

FEYNMAN

>> No.2237712

Kierkegaard~ <33

>> No.2237719

>to be my tutor:
Diogenes.

>to be my bitch:
Simone de Beauvoir

>> No.2237721

>>2237680
I bet Schoppy was a HUGE homophobic.

>> No.2237720

Freud or Marx.

I would like to know what their response would be to how their theories were received over the years.

Derrida, maybe, too. He would definitely appreciate it the most.

>> No.2237724

>>2237689
You know all mathematicians are autistic fags, don't you?.

>> No.2237725

either jesus or wittgenstein but probably jesus.

>> No.2237730

>>2237724
still better choices than most of the other fags

>> No.2237735

>not choosing Diogenes

>> No.2237740

I'd like to see Socrates and Foucault making out for the lulz

>> No.2237848

At least 14 of these guys would probably try to fuck you up the ass if they were your tutor.

I would take the risk with Diogenes though. A little public masturbation in the market place never hurt anyone.

Unless Jesus is actually miracle performing Jesus instead of historical okay guy Jesus. Then I would certainly go with the wine wizard.

>> No.2237854

Russell or Quine.

And if i cud choose another not-on-the-list-but-similar person, i wud choose Galton. Newton can go home, Galton ftw!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galton

>> No.2237873

Where is Popper and why isn't Wittenstein threatening him with a hot poker?

>> No.2237982

To anyone saying jesus, what is the evidence supporting his existence? I'm trying to read the main sources that claimed he was in fact real. I heard Tacitus and Josephus mentioned him, although I haven't read their works yet (even though I have the complete works of Tacitus right in front of me on my shelf).

>> No.2237983

>>2237982

Really dude? Really?

>> No.2237985

>>2237982

Is it of any relevance to this discussion?

>> No.2237990

>>2237983
Yes, really. I'm after any sources of that period that support his existence.

>> No.2237996

>>2237985
No, but is it so hard to answer? I'm in need of help and since jesus is being mentioned itt I thought it was a good place to try.

>> No.2237997

Between:
Nietzsche
Hume
Socrates

>> No.2238001

>>2236158
Where the fuck is Tesla?

>> No.2239350

Anyone got the picture without the writing on? and could Petrarch actually be Alighieri?

>> No.2239359

Everyone not choosing Epicurus is making a horrible mistake.

>> No.2239367

ugh, none of them

>> No.2239875

Kierkegaard is my fucking hero

>> No.2239886

I choose Bertrand Russell.
Partly because I can't speak Greek and Italian.
Partly because I can speak German, but the Germans are a bit too uptight for me.
Partly because Russell is a pretty cool guy. Eh talks about celestial teapots and doesn't afraid of anything.