/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22486901]

>Alan Moore, interview: ‘I’m giving all my screen royalties to Black Lives Matter’

What an extraordinary gesture.

Also, has anyone read Jerusalem yet? is it any good?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/what-to-read/alan-moore-comic-books-black-lives-matter-watchmen/

[Anonymous No.22486920]

>>22486901
Fucking hack

[Anonymous No.22486921]

>>22486901
>BLM
More like Buying Luxury Mansions. Unfortunately I can believe Moore is this stupid. Especially since all his work is about America even though he's British, lives in Britain, and never experienced American culture. So it makes sense he wouldn't understand that BLM is a grift that has NEVER given back to the black community.

[Anonymous No.22487025]

>>22486901
Don't they embezzle all their donations?

[Anonymous No.22487029]

>>22486901
He's come a long way since Miracleman.

[Anonymous No.22487031]

>>22487025
Not all but the founders do be livin in mansions now.

[Anonymous No.22487037]

>>22486901
Some people are so impressed by the 'good people NGO' front, it's crazy. I blame Peter Singer.

[Anonymous No.22487040]

>>22486901

Guys a retard. I see a lot of thought in watchmen and then I see him talk and I have to walk it all back

[Anonymous No.22487064]

>>22486901
Not a /pol/tard, but this guy has always been an idiotic hack.

[Anonymous No.22487075]

>>22486921
He's talking about the UK side of the charity, not the American one.

[Anonymous No.22487087]

>>22486901
>white boomer negrolatr
Many such cases

[Anonymous No.22487175]

>>22487075
>implying it's different

[Anonymous No.22487188]

>>22486901
does he actually think blacks give a shit?

https://www.brighteon.com/63c887c7-9552-4d34-bb58-0ade55c4c2de

[Anonymous No.22487200]

There are no niggers in my country. I used to want to move to a first world shithole, but no longer.

[Anonymous No.22487201]

>>22487040
What’s annoying about watchmen is that he buried his dumb libtard ideology in a clearly anti-liberal story. Its like he doesn’t even get the theme of his own comic.

[Anonymous No.22487208]

>>22487201
Nigger he's an anarchist and that shows in his works. You people don't know the left beyond liberalism

[Anonymous No.22487220]

>>22486901
>Screen royalties from a single movie that was a collosal flop
What a gift!
Also comics and movies aren't /lit/erature, clean it up janny.

[Anonymous No.22487221]

>>22487208
He (and you it sounds like) are libtards. Anarchism is a meme for useful tools.

[Anonymous No.22487226]

>>22487201
>he buried his dumb libtard ideology in a clearly anti-liberal story
can you elaborate?

[Anonymous No.22487227]

>>22487221
Imagine hating freedom

[Anonymous No.22487229]

>>22487208
and leftists know conservatism? I'm sorry but you guys still believe jordan peterson is a white supremacists and that actually white nationalists revere him. leftists are completely retarded, and don't even try to fix their ignorance, in regards to knowing what right wingers actually believe.

[Anonymous No.22487232]

>>22487221
I am an anarch – not because I despise authority, but because I need it. Likewise, I am not a nonbeliever, but a man who demands something worth believing in.

[Anonymous No.22487236]

>>22487226
To my memory, the story largely follows a batman type character who is exploring a conspiracy plot. The whole time he is labeled as a right-wing cook and ignored, but it turns out he is correct and the elite superheroes actually are planning on a genocide to bring “world peace”.
You would think the batman guy is the good guy based on the plot, but Moore repeatedly claims in interviews that he is just another villain and you are supposed to dislike that character because hes like stubborn or something.

[Anonymous No.22487240]

>>22487201
you realize multiple characters in a story can be presented as "wrong"? None of the "heroes" are political role models, they are all dangers to society who occasionally do the right thing. Rorschach opposing Veidt isn't Moore endorsing Rorschach

[Anonymous No.22487245]

>>22487240
Yes and thats why I am saying the story is for fags! Rorschach is obviously the good guy in the story but libtards won’t like him because hes mean and authoritarian. Dont reply unless you understand what is going on.

[Anonymous No.22487251]

>>22487229
this is why you are always going to lose, your opponents know all of you are their enemy, they don't care about your pronouns, they can smell it on both you and the Canadian, they don't need to take precise measurements and taxonomize you, they know where there is one the other is not far, they are efficient where you are autistic

[Anonymous No.22487252]

>>22487240
Listen, if the story doesn't have a good guy and a bad guy then I won't know which character is on my team. And that makes it a bad story. Baka

[Anonymous No.22487254]

Poopoo peepee Funko pops in every stocking

[Anonymous No.22487257]

>>22487251
It’s actually why the libtards are gonna lose. When everyone is labeled a white nationalist, some people listen and just become one…

[Anonymous No.22487259]

>>22487236
Rorschach is supposed to be a naive liberal who thinks world bad because people bad and if you kill bad person world = good. He doesn't question the systems we are stuck in similar to how marvel and dc superheros do nothing to change the world and assume it's all good except for a couple of weirdo supervillains.

[Anonymous No.22487263]

>>22486921
>all his work is about America
What about the one where he reimagines classic victorian literature but everyones being raped and sexually abused

[Anonymous No.22487264]

>>22487236
Quite right. And this my problem with Watchmen (not the comic itself but the author's comments). Rorschach is meant to be bad but he makes him badass instead. He's by far the most fleshed out character and arguably the protagonist. Yet somehow Moore has a different view because he hates R's politics.

[Anonymous No.22487265]

>>22487259
But he is completely correct the whole time and attempts to stop the genocide before the other elites stop and kill him. He is not the liberal character. The liberal is the guy who wants to kill everyone to bring about globalism

[Anonymous No.22487270]

>>22487245
>but i liked him so he's the good guy
i don't know why so many of you assume you wouldn't be on the shortest leash in an authoritarian society, the last thing the regime would want is your unsolicted opinion—the Russians for instance jail people like you (neo-nazis)— while in a liberal society you are encouraged and permitted to out your antisocial political views so as to improve the diagnostic ability of the state and related civil society organs

[Anonymous No.22487272]

>>22487265
Rorschach is the epitome of libtard moralist. That other dude who cooks up the whole "uniting both sides against a common enemy" is a cynical malcontent who doesn't subscribe to any morality other than wanting humanity to stop fighting at any cost.

[Anonymous No.22487276]

>>22487272
No, Rorschach is a naive conservative who sees the world in black and white.

[Anonymous No.22487279]

>>22487257
you are just feedback to government letting it know to relax this or that policy shift for a few years, there is no political path forward for your ideology in the United States, even Hungary bans your activists and they literally agree with you

[Anonymous No.22487284]

>>22487276
>naive conservative who sees the world in black and white.
That applies for all centrists and libtards are center-lefty

[Anonymous No.22487291]

>>22486921
>all his work is about America
From Hell, V for Vendetta, Lost Girls, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Miracleman, etc are not about America.

[Anonymous No.22487292]

>>22487236
>>22487252
>>22487259
>>22487264>>22487272
>>22487276
>I NEED CLEARLY DESIGNAGED GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS OTHERWISE ME COUNFUSED
Y'all are clearly too young to be reading Watchmen, much less the rest og Moore's work.
Google 'moral ambiguity' for starters, don't do drugs and stay in school kids

[Anonymous No.22487294]

>>22487270
>while in a liberal society you are encouraged and permitted to
>BANNED / DEPLATFORMED / FIRED
Keep on derpin brother

[Anonymous No.22487295]

>>22487284
He's too right wing to be a libtard.

[Anonymous No.22487298]

>>22487292
>Y'all
You lost me there, faggot.

[Anonymous No.22487307]

>>22487294
Read the rest of the post dummy. You are baited into outing yourself so you can be caught and marginalized. Like what happened in Jan 6! Liberalism is anti-fragile

[Anonymous No.22487309]

They chose the name Black Lives Matter because they are a wildfire cult targeting Colorado's BLM land. The hundreds of millions of people living in this country today are little more than a parasitic infection destroying the ecosystem. Very clean cut by Moore to say his film adaptations are shit and he'll let the niggers keep the money.

[Anonymous No.22487311]

This is better than any book released in the last 10 years (including Moore's)

[Anonymous No.22487315]

>>22487307
>derp derp derp
>OH I WAS JUST BAITING
Keep on derpin bother ;)

[Anonymous No.22487317]

>>22487292
>Bro, like everyone is morally gray bro. Theres no good or bad.
Did your prof teach you this in Film studies 101?

[Anonymous No.22487320]

>>22487276
That is the point of the character in Moore’s mind. But that character is literally correct about everything.

[Anonymous No.22487322]

>there's an evil race of dark skinned savages we used for slavery and now they live in our country and hate us
>they have a history of resisting colonization by "overgrowth" and basically being the human form of entropy
>whoops, the air is so full of nigger cum people can't even breathe
damn how did this happen I just wanted to sell tobacco to my friends in london town

[Anonymous No.22487337]

>>22487315
that's right! it's bait—in an authoritarian society everyone lies and keeps their opinion to themselves, the threat of clandestine conspiracy and and organization against the regime is much greater and any crack can be suddenly widened. With liberalism all the anti-government or anti-social forces are starved for oxygen because most moderate dissent is already captured by the system, so the extreme dissent outs itself as a lunatic freakshow and gets marginalized even further

[Anonymous No.22487346]

>>22487317
So stories don't have good guys, some have no villains and everything in between.
Moore doesn't hand hold his readers and tell them what to think, he allows them to thibk for themselves and come to their own conclusions on who is right and who is wrong, he respects his readers' intelligence.
And for the record I didn't go to film school, I went to films

[Anonymous No.22487347]

>>22487337
Do you truly believe that the only people with authoritarian impulses are on 4chan? I think you would be suprised at the number of normies that despise libtardism and just keep their mouth shut because of the secret police system.

[Anonymous No.22487351]

>>22487346
Except he doesn’t and he has said numerous times in interviews that you are not supposed to approve of certain characters actions. You are retarded and need to stop speaking down to your intellectual superiors.

[Anonymous No.22487354]

>>22487346
>Moore doesn't hand hold his readers and tell them what to think, he allows them to thibk for themselves and come to their own conclusions on who is right and who is wrong, he respects his readers' intelligence.
Not true. He has said R is le bad

[Anonymous No.22487359]

>>22487347
it's besides the point what sensibly quiet people are refraining from doing, they are already managed and mitigated from a security/therapeutic perspective. i am talking about the impulsive and active people whose ideas and politics would be a threat if actioned, and liberalism excels at detecting and marginalizing these people while authoritarian societies have to deal with everybody being a liar and are thus more fragile

[Anonymous No.22487371]

>>22487359
If your argument is that the totalitarian liberal system scares people from dissenting, I agree. Its pretty dumb though to say that a system that pretty much everyone hates (including the beneficiaries of such a system like anarchists) is impervious to change.

[Anonymous No.22487387]

>>22487351
>>22487354
You do know you can disregard the author's comments on their own work, particularly statements that were made years after the work's release and are very clearly intended to make the author appear relevant and ingratiate himself with a particular crowd?
Its called death of the author

[Anonymous No.22487391]

>>22487387
>death of the author
Postmodern bullshit

[Anonymous No.22487392]

>>22487371
It is not impervious to change, it is better at capturing and managing dissent and marginalizing extreme dissent. David Duke could not be elected today, but he could in the 90s. And speaking of the 90s, a lot of Trump's evil right wing agenda was just Bill Clinton's policies. How very conservative, that we have moved so left.

[Anonymous No.22487393]

>>22487387
No one said you couldn’t. My original point was that I like the story and Moore’s commentary has tainted it.

[Anonymous No.22487399]

>>22487392
That all seems like the results of a dying system that no one has any faith in….

[Anonymous No.22487400]

Even Watchmen's ending proves Rorschach right because the truth will come out.

[Anonymous No.22487402]

>>22487227
Le ebbin queer leftists are just the people who defend psychiatry the compulsory education system the biomedical psychiatric pharma complex and the sex industry as blindly as the dumbest of dumb right wingers defend the church police and military.

Its not about freedom its about Slave morality based identitarian biocollectivism.i mean if these people are going to call you a fascist for having thoughts unapproved by the mass media for the crime of reading old books or not wanting your children to be indoctrinated raped and mutilated by fanatical state bureaucrats then you cant help but start thinking can fascism be all that bad?

[Anonymous No.22487405]

>>22487402
>libertarian saying "stay away from kids"
This violates NAP.

[Anonymous No.22487408]

>>22487399
>2 more weeks until a country where most children under 10 are POC votes for white nationalism

[Anonymous No.22487411]

>>22487402
Whats crazy is that the modern “anarchists” are the most statist, authoritarian-minded people in the country

[Anonymous No.22487412]

>>22487075
That's even more retarded. Black bongs have never faced institutional racism before. Yeah, they go to jail at higher rates, but that's just because they commit more crime.

[Anonymous No.22487413]

>>22487408
>votes
You really don’t get it nigga

[Anonymous No.22487433]

Anglocuck mentality lmao sad!

[Anonymous No.22487445]

>>22487413
You don't get anything let alone "it." Spend less time talking to intelligence assets online.

[Anonymous No.22487461]

>>22487445
Ok retard, go back to the Television now. You are no longer needed in this discussion.

[Anonymous No.22487611]

>>22486901
Woah YAS kween slay! such science! such victimhood! such love! such identity! Such NPC! Such DEI EGS! Such LGBT! Such Bioleninist pedoganda! Such grooming! Such Cultural Marxism! Such vulnerable! Such marginalized! Such Diverse and Progressive! Such objective scientific and psychiatric authority! Such corporate sponsorship!Such Sex Work ! Such BLM! Such Gay! Such AIDS! Such Poz! Such unlimited expansion of the administrative state! Such such democracy! Such antifascism! Such counterterrorism! Joe Biden! such empathy and basic human decency!

[Anonymous No.22487617]

>>22487461
will i see you getting arrested on the nightly news?

[Anonymous No.22487619]

>>22487402
I mean look at all those 'individualists' marching in formation waving the individualist flag demanding other peoples children be forcibly indoctrinated into the individualist ideology and dissenters be persecuted for thoughtcrime.

[Anonymous No.22487623]

>>22487075
Total NGO Death.

[Anonymous No.22487677]

>Heard joke once: Homie goes to doctor. Says he depressed. Says life finna be harsh and cruel. Says he feel all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is wack and uncertain. Doctor say, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliaccijadarius is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Nigga bursts into tears. He say, "But doctor...I am Pagliaccijadarius.”

[Anonymous No.22487684]

>>22486901
You can’t separate the art from the artist, especially if they’re alive. If the artist is a faggot, then they’ll do faggot things with the money you give them.
ONLY BUY BASED ART, ONLY SUPPORT BASED ARTISTS.

[Anonymous No.22487688]

>>22487259
>Rorschach is supposed to be a naive liberal
Rorschach is a parody of The Question, Mr. A, and Steve Ditko-style Ayn Rand right wing Objectivism. Not a liberal.

[Anonymous No.22487693]

>>22486901
>/lit/- tmz of the literary world

[Anonymous No.22487698]

>>22486901
Based anglo continuing the proudbuckbreaking traditions of his ancestors.

[Anonymous No.22487805]

>>22487251
But their number one enemies are spics and niggers which they view as allies, not a zionist academic with a roastie daughter lmao

[Anonymous No.22487817]

>>22487805
>liberal party votebank demographic groups are the enemy of liberal parties
what a brilliant analysis, you must be playing multidimensional chinese checkers

[Anonymous No.22487836]

>>22487208
Actual anarchism is right wing (primitivist, tribalist)

[Anonymous No.22487843]

>>22487817
Considering that's the thing that you thought instead of the fact that these demographics which are more dominant than libtards (a vanishing species) do not perpetuate libtard policies in their communities, and cleanse opposition from them, I'm afraid that I have to inform you that you are not as smart as you think you are. Your intellect is highly average, deficient even, and it would be better for everyone if you committed suicide.

[Anonymous No.22487868]

>>22487843
>these demographics which are more dominant than libtards
what does that even mean? do you think about the things you are arguing for or just argue for the sake of it? is your point that third worlders don't vote for LGBT issues or something? Not as if liberal plutocrats genuinely care about that anyway, nor would backing off on it lead to your desired fascist daddy state

[Anonymous No.22487878]

>>22487868
Incoherent panicked babble. I accept your concession, prepare to be sacrificed to Xipe Totec

[Anonymous No.22487883]

>>22487878
be sure to tell your friends family employers employees and customers about your political program and make sure it is retrievable on social media or other public record, and then you can tell me whether you still feel in charge

[Anonymous No.22487892]

>>22487883
I have no political program and I am not American or even LatAm. Your disoriented uneasiness would be amusic if it wasn't gay. It's over for you

[Anonymous No.22487907]

>>22487883
>>22487892
Btw spics cleansing nigs and whiteys is applauded or ignored at worst. Goolag has literally had Viva La Raza doodles, nobody is opposing it. Journos write all the time about the coming brown majority. They just turn a blind eye to spics being chuds and not a peep about cartels expanding, and focus more on being antiwhite (good thing)

[Anonymous No.22487913]

>>22486901
P O Z Z E D

[Anonymous No.22487915]

This thread will get more replies than any thread actually bringing up the content of a book. You all are clowns. I bet some of you don’t read books either

[Anonymous No.22487918]

>>22487913
>no one being in control is... le frightening!
White boomers get the rope

[Anonymous No.22487921]

>>22487915
books are for people with slow brains.

[Anonymous No.22487922]

>>22487915
>book discussions are ... le good!

[Anonymous No.22487929]

>>22487915
Imagine reading books LMAO

[Anonymous No.22487934]

>>22487915
Mad because your niggerloving jewish britshit comic writer got callled out. L O L

[Anonymous No.22487945]

>>22486901
Jerusalem starts well but the 2nd book is pretty crap overall. He's an ok novelist but his reach exceeded his grasp. Some interesting images though

[Anonymous No.22487951]

>>22487915
why would i talk about books?

[Anonymous No.22487962]

>>22487915
The books people read here I read in high school. The opinions people have about books are the opinions I had in primary school. I don't come here to discuss books, I come here to laugh and kick back.

[Anonymous No.22487969]

>>22487892
>disoriented uneasiness
not the one praying for societal collapse on a literature forum lmao

[Anonymous No.22487980]

>>22487969
>literally twitter lingo
/lit/bros...

[Anonymous No.22487995]

>>22487208
>anarchist
>donates to globo-homo

[Anonymous No.22488000]

>>22487995
kek he's a joke

[Anonymous No.22488001]

>>22487969
>praying
you are
>societal collapse
there will never be such a thing
You are not smart. The people you interact with consider you entirely average, and their negative judgment of you is correct.
This is the end of the line for you.

[Anonymous No.22488017]

>>22487980
>>22488001
i want "/pol/ with books" posters to leave

[Anonymous No.22488027]

>>22488017
Holy BTFO dude your tiny brain got obliterated

[Anonymous No.22488080]

Leftism is a fucking joke. What else is there to say? 90% of them are just libshit cattle serving capitalism.

[Anonymous No.22488084]

>>22488027
you are not respected by anyone for being a teenage neonazi, you will pay your taxes, you will pay your creditors and you will be buckbroken by the bulls of wall street

[Anonymous No.22488091]

>>22488017
Embarassing helpless squirming.
/pol/ is not mexican enough for my tastes anyway.

[Anonymous No.22488097]

>>22488084
>neonazis are libertarians
Dude.. stop posting it's over you're single digit IQ

[Anonymous No.22488107]

>>22486901
Thats one way to make me never read any of his works ever

[Anonymous No.22488122]

>>22488091
>>22488097
I know I'm retarded, but at least I'm not a fucking neonazi hateful faggot who spends all his time hating the superior jewish race

[Anonymous No.22488134]

>>22488122
These types of posters must be literal bots or shills. Every single time their big-brained rationale for liberalism gets debunked, they reveal their true, philo-semitic agenda!

[Anonymous No.22488137]

>>22488097
>can't even follow the discussion, just jumped in to seethe impotently about the liberal overlords of the west and pray for the second coming of adolfo jitlerez

[Anonymous No.22488139]

>>22488134
what was debunked? liberal western societies are anti-fragile against neo-nazis, if they weren't you'd be in office and not here, keep larping small child

[Anonymous No.22488146]

>>22488097
Literally this the idea of freedom and thus liberalism and libertarianism are historically linked with white supremacy. It is a white idea and those who are not white who identify with freedom and libertarianism and individualis. are under false consciousness and should undergo a process of decolonization in order to embrace identity and equity

https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691179469/white-freedom

[Anonymous No.22488151]

>>22487240
If hes so bad then why is he so cool?

[Anonymous No.22488161]

>>22488151
because he acts on his beliefs and has a sense of righteousness while his opponents engage in noble lie bullshit, he is definitely a "good" character he just isn't intended by the author to have "good" values, one is reminded of a quote about a "strong horse" from an infamous Saudi intellectual and freedom fighter

[Anonymous No.22488205]

>>22488139
So why interject and sperg out about jews? That really reveals your whole game here shlomo

[Anonymous No.22488210]

>>22488205
Jews are our allies against bigots

[Anonymous No.22488216]

>>22486901
Why do western whites with a minority of negroes hate themselves so much? You don't see stuff like this in Brazil, do you?

[Anonymous No.22488223]

>>22488216
Who gives a shit about brazil

[Anonymous No.22488235]

>>22488139
Fuck you rabbi. Steve Bannon an esoteric Aryan traditionalist got into the white house and this is only the beginning.

[Anonymous No.22488236]

>>22488223
This kind of attitude is why you deserve everything coming your way.

[Anonymous No.22488248]

>>22487921
>>22487921
>>22487929
>>22487951
Then why be here? It is /lit/- literature, after all?

[Anonymous No.22488250]

>>22488248
Newfag

[Anonymous No.22488251]

>>22488205
Not sure who you are referring to, but i do not respect your political pronouns... you are a cretin that liberal societies excel at identifying and marginalizing. Now, the Russians or Chinese would jail you outright but liberalism wants to you to suffer theatrically as a free witness to the fate of those who espouse your views—which is far more effective at modifying behavior. If you don't believe me, go public with your doctrines.

[Anonymous No.22488253]

>>22488248
literature is a subjective term. my post is literature.

[Anonymous No.22488257]

>>22488248
burgers?

[Anonymous No.22488270]

>>22488251
About half of zoomer white males are Nazis. They are totally driving the culture. Look at the tiktok trends. Look at what’s happening on Twitter. All memes are originating from far far right concepts. The most effective military units on both sides of the Ukraine war are openly neo-Nazi semi autonomous militias.

[Anonymous No.22488271]

>>22486921
I was thinking the same. BLM sucks. Hasn’t helped anyone

[Anonymous No.22488274]

>>22487962
Because anyone over the age of 25 who actually read left after the place plummeted. Now it’s all teenagers and dudes in their early 20’s who have only read basic bitch books if they read at all

[Anonymous No.22488284]

>>22487913
Maybe if authors today weren't retarded low IQ political propagandists we would talk about literature with more passion and positive

[Anonymous No.22488285]

>>22488270
And of that half, half are gay and the other half are celibate/asian fetishist. This is zoomers we are talking about

[Anonymous No.22488292]

>>22486901
Can we at least agree that it was zoomers who fucked up the board? Retardation, no respect for board culture, ideologically driven, the list goes on and on

[Anonymous No.22488299]

>>22488285
I’ve never understood what fetishism is supposed to mean. It is repeated by idiots everywhere especially with respect to white men and Asian women. What is supposed to be strange about someone wanting to fuck someone from a race they find particularly attractive?

[Anonymous No.22488303]

>>22488292
Yea

[Anonymous No.22488304]

>>22488299
it means your "movement" will eat each other over infighting versus the liberal "pay to win" political model

[Anonymous No.22488307]

>>22488251
Is anyone even arguing against the fact that liberalism is good at crushing opposition? Its not invulnerable though, no matter how much you seethe and act superior

[Anonymous No.22488309]

>>22487913
Why do people that don’t believe in conspiracy theories always ssay this armchair psychology nonsense? People simply believe in them because they believe them either out of momentum or because they truly believe it. No one is “scared” of the fact no one is truly in control if that’s even true. What a gay patronizing thing to say. It’s truly arrogant and disgusting to talk about your fellow man like babies like this.

[Anonymous No.22488311]

>>22488292
>board culture
You should not be engaging on a site with more than 10 nerds if you genuinely care about that

[Anonymous No.22488315]

>>22486901
Is there any way to get contact with this retard? I want to see if I can emotionally manipulate him to give me money instead.
Getting sick and tired of this shit.

[Anonymous No.22488317]

>>22488307
>Is anyone even arguing against the fact that liberalism is good at crushing opposition?
yes, several delusional neo nazi teenagers think they will tiktok their way out of liberalism

[Anonymous No.22488320]

>>22488248
They’re here for the basket weaving tutorials

[Anonymous No.22488321]

>>22488309
Psychology was pretty much invented to pathologize people who don’t agree with the mainstream social narratives.

[Anonymous No.22488332]

>>22488317
No one said that. Everyone is just countering the tired “you would never try that IRL” nonsense.

[Anonymous No.22488337]

>>22488317
Liberalism is not only not invulnerable, it has lost all confidence in itself. It’s not even liberal anymore. It doesn’t think it can trust people with free association free speech or freedom to vote for the candidate of their choosing. It is obviously falling apart. Communism died of incontinent old age and fascism was suffocated in its cradle. It’s clear which ideology is inspiring culture and youth interest.

[Anonymous No.22488340]

>>22488321
Or you know, crazies.

[Anonymous No.22488344]

>>22486901
Hes probably being blackmailed with pedo material in order to support state ideology

[Anonymous No.22488349]

>>22488337
Exactly. The fact that so many people self-censor themselves because they know they live in a liberal police state does not show that liberalism is winning. It shows that it is crumbling under itself and the contradictions are becoming clear for all to see

[Anonymous No.22488356]

>>22488337
>It doesn’t think it can trust people with free association free speech or freedom
freedom is now nakedly and plainly just property/wealth access/distribution, if you are an enemy you are banned from acquiring it, unless you already have it, this will make it very difficult for someone not already invested in business as usual to capture the state and those invested are the least likely to want to destroy it, cope and seethe all you like

[Anonymous No.22488359]

>>22488349
See >>22487359 that's a feature not a bug, see also tocqueville re stifling of opinion in democracy

[Anonymous No.22488366]

>>22488337
>It’s clear which ideology is inspiring culture and youth interest.
Libertarianism, obvs

[Anonymous No.22488367]

>>22488337
>It’s clear which ideology is inspiring culture and youth interest.
It's still liberalism.

[Anonymous No.22488377]

>>22488356
What you are describing isn’t liberalism. There is a coherent liberal ideology. No, rich people are not afforded freedom of association or freedom of speech either. Many of them are also suffering the consequences of its failures. Are you not witnessing the regime turning all its tricks on the richest man in the world currently. If trump had simply be more confident it is entirely possible he could have pulled off a fascist coup. There is still a chance he will get into power again. Cope and seethe all you like globofaggot is collapsing under its contradictions sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.22488379]

>>22488309
Conspiracy theories are also related to whiteness and white privilege and a long tradition of anti government extremism driven by white supremacy and antisemitism. The real conspiracy is white privilege conspiracy theorists scapegoat the US government, corporate diversity initiatives and western alligned NGOs because they are the greatest force for racial equality the earth has ever known. If you have ever been around Black people you will be moved by their earnest and simpleminded trust in the government.

[Anonymous No.22488394]

>>22488359
Eroding public trust in every single institution and fear of the “liberal” system ruining your life for wrongthink is not a feature.

[Anonymous No.22488395]

>>22488377
Competent not confident he didn’t lack confidence*

[Anonymous No.22488396]

>>22488377
>There is still a chance he will get into power again.
kek not one of his grandchildren would be safe in your ideal society and you think he's your guy

[Anonymous No.22488400]

>>22488394
It actually is. You need to do some further reading. Liberalism in practice is very different from liberalism in theory and it's supposed to be that way.

[Anonymous No.22488404]

>>22488396
He is simply enough to demonstrate that liberalism is obviously not working. Figures like him ascendant all around the globe. There is nowhere that liberalism feels confident like it did in the 1990s. They think they have to shut down the internet to maintain their regime but this is a Gutenberg press moment that they are on the wrong side of.

[Anonymous No.22488405]

>>22488377
If Trump wins the next election, then that means Adam Greene was right about all of his Jewish Messianic conspiracies, and we would all be in trouble. The Jews have called Trump as a part of a David bloodline, and that is supposed to signal the end of Esau (what Jews consider Rome/Europe). That would mean both your precious right and left were controlled from the very start, which explains why Zelensky is a Jew and how Putin is surrounded by billionaire Chabad Jews. It would also mean all modern global conflict was fake from the start.

[Anonymous No.22488407]

>>22488405
>Adam Greene
Adam Green* of Know More News*

[Anonymous No.22488412]

>>22488400
Aaaaa yes, I remember when Tocqueville said American society would definitely survive when public confidence in institutions goes away. Or did he say the exact opposite?
Exit the thread and read some more books nigga

[Anonymous No.22488415]

>>22488405
They don't call him Zionald Trumpberg for nothing, that I can tell you

[Anonymous No.22488421]

>>22488400
No it isn’t what we have is a kind of social democratic left corporatism. No freedom to speak or associate or vote for policy or do what you want with your property is not liberalism.

[Anonymous No.22488426]

>>22488394
liberalism doesn't mean running the government like a community garden and having rigorous policy debates, it is the absence of hereditary privileges and classes, the ability to purchase almost everything that isn't nailed down and even some things that are, things churchmen and aristocrats would have sooner let rot than auction off, and this freedom is theoretically available to all even if few actually have it... liberalism has become more gentle and humane over the years so you may have a hard time seeing behind the veil

[Anonymous No.22488431]

>>22488356
We are at the stage of 1980 ussr. No one believes in the regime but the alternative hasn’t presented itself yet. They go along with it cynically knowing something will change soon.

[Anonymous No.22488437]

>>22488431
Based. Its really similar in so many ways, down to the brown-scare tactics about “domestic terrorist fascists”

[Anonymous No.22488450]

>>22488377
American system is not about liberalism at all anymore, you get to a stage of military industrial technocracy were it flips back into a debased carnival parody of organicist paternalist conservatism. Trump or Elon Musk serve as both scapegoats and figureheads for massive secretive state corporate bureaucracies. Its like in the southern plantation system were the slaves would apply to the good master against the excesses of the bad overseer. American liberalism amounts to LARPing as a calvinist slavemaster far crueler thsn the ones in the old south, they used to take good care of the blacks back in the day i mean a buck nigger costs as much as a ford pickup or a tractor but now you dont even want them to work you make more of them juststuffing them with opiates tv and corn syrup, while american conservatism amounts to being a nigger in denial. A culture that oscilates betweem shocking displays of sadistic cruelty blatant deceit and nauseating sentimentalism. Not by any means european but more so like a calvinist brazil with nuclear weapons. to really understand America you have to ignore the lofty official rhetoric of 'democracy' and think well Mr Johnson's plantation is called the great society and his overseer is a wily bespectacled irishman by the name of mcnamara, and in the floor picking cotton we have a bunch of N.... we call them african americans now and they come in all colors.

[Anonymous No.22488453]

>>22488426
>This freedom is theoretically available
As everyone sees that this theoretical freedom is obviously never coming to fruition, they seek alternatives. Are you honestly gonna act like the public losing all faith in the government, in elections, and in their ability to be upwardly mobile is a good thing for liberalism?

[Anonymous No.22488456]

>>22488431
the ussr nationalities policy, along with tremendously cynical authoritarian bureaucracy, doomed the country, the usa doesn't have that issue because most of our ethnic groups are cosplay tier and there is almost no continguously homogenous territory assigned to any of them... if liberalism goes you will get a caudillo and not a fuhrer and he will leave the country browner than he found it

[Anonymous No.22488457]

>>22488426
Stupid definition that hasn’t applied to the west now or at any point in the past 100 years. Liberalism is a very well defined ideology from the 18th century that is expressed well in the American constitution. With no freedom to speak or associate or trade or be protected from government violence there is no liberalism.

[Anonymous No.22488460]

I think liberalism went too far. A civil society can only live in an oversocialized and unnatural state for so long. The needle that broke the camel's back was all the tranny shit being pushed. It's completely delusional and disgusting all normies know that deep down. More and more people are awakening.

[Anonymous No.22488463]

>>22488450
America wwe a carefully constructed Freemasonic project from the start. You'd have to study the Kabbalah and read its end prophecies to get an idea of America's end goal.

[Anonymous No.22488467]

>>22488404
he lost, and Biden has imported more voters to make sure he loses again, liberalism is resilient

[Anonymous No.22488471]

>>22488453
system does not have to run at full approval, what is being stress tested now is how much capacity for dissent it can handle, and as you are indeed noticing, that's a lot of dissent and nothing to show for it!

[Anonymous No.22488475]

>>22488463
>America's end goal.
Buckbreaking for everyone!

[Anonymous No.22488477]

>>22488463
We wuz masons n shit!

[Anonymous No.22488483]

>>22488467
>>22488471
He has changed the American right forever. Talking about ending democracy is mainstreamed. I don’t think he will win but every election from now to the future if the Republican Party wins there will be a Caesarist commander in chief. They only have to win once. They may never win but in that case the country will seriously decay making their win more likely. The rights criticisms of the system are correct, even if you don’t like their solutions, if the democrats keep winning things will keep getting much worse.

[Anonymous No.22488484]

>>22488457
>Liberalism doesn't exist anymore because people can't say nigger on the Internet without getting fired from their jobs
A concerning number of you retards really believe this. America is still a liberal democracy.

[Anonymous No.22488493]

>>22488484
America isn’t the only country in the west. There is maybe no country in Europe where it is legal to say black people are genetically less intelligent than whites on average, a fact. Have you missed the Ricky Vaughn case or Alex Jones? They want to end free speech in America too. In Europe it doesn’t exist at all. My earlier example was a bit extreme for some of you but police come to your door if you publicly say men can’t become women.

[Anonymous No.22488495]

>>22488471
Did anyone ever say that the collapse of liberalism will be caused by nazi zoomers? Does the current system really look like its in a great place right now? Citizens are more and more frequently engaging in open revolt and the libtards are also losing a global war to two authoritarian superpowers. Liberalism stays winning!

[Anonymous No.22488500]

>>22488484
>Country that openly censors ideas I don’t like is liberal
Retard alert

[Anonymous No.22488512]

>>22488495
Not to mention the American military has a serious recruiting problem. They have historically always relied on white, particularly southern, males. Who now rationally believe it is not in their interest to sign up for this regime. Nuclear weapons have the effect of hiding the importance of military might because nuclear states can’t go to war. America may suffer a real military humiliation in the future if Iran or China do something bellicose.

[Anonymous No.22488515]

>>22488512
Its almost like thats a serious chink in the armor of liberalism that is also a direct consequence of the policies needed to crush dissent. But according to the retard in this thread that shouldn’t exist?

[Anonymous No.22488534]

>>22488500
Yes. Liberalism has always had a noble history of freedom, never coercion. It's only a very recent phenomenon that liberal states force people to do certain things. Therefore they aren't liberal anymore!

[Anonymous No.22488538]

>>22488534
>Liberal states coercing other states to do things is the same as censoring and restricting the freedoms of citizens
Retard alert!

[Anonymous No.22488559]

>>22487402
>judeo masonic faggot flag fighting another judeo masonic faggot flag
Here's the proper version. Become Traditional Catholic immediately.

[Anonymous No.22488569]

>>22488534
Are you retarded? Anything that involves slavery, censorship or coercion is not liberalism. They were opposed historically and today on liberal arguments.

[Anonymous No.22488575]

>>22488484
Did you miss the news a federal court found the US government was coercing social media companies to censor US citizens?

[Anonymous No.22488581]

who want me to be the artist for their comic?

[Anonymous No.22488602]

>>22487075
Might as well donate his anal virginity in a maximum security prison while he’s at it but bongs and other Europeans can’t even do punishment correctly. The point is to traumatize the person so they’re not a repeat offender not coddle them like they’re vacationing in Martha’s Vineyard.

[Anonymous No.22488609]

>>22488512
>>22488515
so again you are reduced to praying for societal collapse to mitigate your political impotence, a smaller military means the government's ability to wage unpopular wars abroad is reduced, that would seem to be beneficial to stability of said government wouldn't you agree? no war the US has fought since the one where all the nazis got blown up has been popular

[Anonymous No.22488611]

>>22487037
People like Peter Singer need to be strung upside down by their intestines. How’s that for the greatest maximum pleasure for the greatest number of people?

[Anonymous No.22488613]

>>22488602
The point is rehabilitation. Punishment is for violent crimes.

[Anonymous No.22488618]

>>22487276
Schmitt saw the world in black and white does that make him naive?

[Anonymous No.22488627]

>>22488613
This is where I should bring up black crime stats

[Anonymous No.22488632]

>>22488618
I never said R was naive because he saw the world in b&w.

[Anonymous No.22488637]

>>22488627
Angloids brought negroes from Africa. Reap what you sow.

[Anonymous No.22488643]

>>22488512
>white, southern males
Gee whiz I wonder why

[Anonymous No.22488648]

>>22488637
Lol, does the Anglo live in your head rent free 24/7, moshie?

[Anonymous No.22488652]

"liberals" and "neoliberals" as marxists describe them are a nonexistent species

[Anonymous No.22488654]

>>22488495
You ever hear the story of The Three Little Pigs? Liberalism is the brick house. You can't blow it down. If you want to knock it over, you'll need to literally undermine it and collapse its walls by setting fire to the tunnels. And then you'll have captured a pile of rubblem But to even get there... that implies you've got the resources and manpower needed for a siege, and you don't. And if you did, the pig would open his doors and start selling off his belongings to your men. And if that wasn't enough he'd mortgage the house and sell them the bonds. And if that wasn't enough, he'd invite you and lieuetenants in, listen to your demands, and undercut you. They'd serve your head to him on a platter. You have the same problem marxists have—you want to butcher the golden goose in an orgy of blood, but you'll never convince enough rank and file of a liberal society they should reenact a Saw movie with you using their 401k.

[Anonymous No.22488656]

>>22488648
Did I lie? It's like adopting a child with lots of problems then whining because he's a disaster.

[Anonymous No.22488660]

>>22488654
Weird and gay

[Anonymous No.22488672]

>>22488660
>he hasn't revolted yet
but I should? lead from the front southron man

[Anonymous No.22488676]

>>22487619
I made similar allusions to the underground hardcore punk versus black metal code of conduct.

[Anonymous No.22488681]

>>22488672
Try English and maybe I’ll understand what the hell you mean in these posts lol

[Anonymous No.22488687]

>>22488122
I fucking hate germans and love spics though. You are out of your depth, stop posting.

[Anonymous No.22488697]

>>22488681
if you are this dumb there's nothing to worry about, imagine a self-checkout kiosk dinging at walmart forever

[Anonymous No.22488728]

>>22488697
Chuds owned, total victory for the jews again!

[Anonymous No.22488748]

>>22488697
kek

[Anonymous No.22488842]

Ooo this is going to make the racists here seethe! Must suck being on the losing side of everything

[Anonymous No.22488855]

>/lit/ never discusses Moore's novels, threads I made on the topic usually get 20 replies tops
>OP makes a bait thread and it pulls majority of the posters because it has BLM in the headlines
FUCK YOU

[Anonymous No.22488864]

>>22488842
Racists are winning though...

[Anonymous No.22488868]

>>22488656
Yes because someone of your ilk isn’t capable of the truth and couches axioms in obscurantist rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.22488877]

>>22488321
100% although theoretically it’s interesting. Really only becomes an issue upon application.

[Anonymous No.22488897]

>>22488877
b8

[Anonymous No.22488898]

>>22488864
Lol this
>antiwhite racists
winning
>latino racists
winning
>nigger racists
winning
>zionist racists
winning
>arab racists
winning
>asian racists
winning
>libtards
lost long ago

[Anonymous No.22488902]

>>22488868
I told nothing but the truth. Present your case otherwise.

[Anonymous No.22488907]

>>22488902
I don’t need to, you obviously have some unresolved issues that need handling before we proceed

[Anonymous No.22488911]

>>22488898
This post assumes whites can’t be racist

[Anonymous No.22488912]

>>22488907
Nice projection from a schizo who thinks everyone who disagrees is a Jew.

[Anonymous No.22488923]

>>22488484
Or people could stop being so sensitive.

[Anonymous No.22488926]

>>22488609
Again it’s not a matter of praying for collapse. The collapse is here. Everything is failing and falling apart. The question is who owns the next regime and how much damage will be done before the baton is passed peacefully or otherwise.

[Anonymous No.22488934]

>>22488912
>everyone is a Jew
Never said that

[Anonymous No.22488937]

>>22488672
I think you’re replying to the wrong person or got the wrong idea. I made the point that white southerns were the historical military caste.

[Anonymous No.22488941]

>>22488569
>>22488575
i've responded to too many of you brainlets over the years about how liberalism really works. it's just boring at this point. "a twitter user was sent to jail by the democrats so that means we live in a 1984 authoritarian dystopia not liberalism" fuck off already

[Anonymous No.22488943]

>>22488934
Don't need to. You called me a Jew.

[Anonymous No.22489312]

>>22488943
He never send that. Im thinking you are protesting a bit much…

[Anonymous No.22489323]

>>22488941
The classic “Im too good to even respond to you peasants, but I totally understand more than you”
Also, yes, a citizen being jailed for stating facts about race is 1984 level dystopia.

[Anonymous No.22489327]

>>22487836
No, that's a recent development.

[Anonymous No.22489423]

>>22488484
>>22488500
>>22488575
Every state that has ever existed has restricted freedom of speech in some way. If liberalism means "free speech absolutism" then liberalism has never existed. Regardless, "liberal democracy" is a basically meaningless descriptor now, and definitely not something to strive for.

[Anonymous No.22489428]

i glanced through it at the book store and it looked dumb. one copy sat there forever and i think they finally discounted it because so many people looked at it and put it back that it was getting destroyed

[Anonymous No.22489473]

>>22487240
Tell us how Rorschach is in the wrong, faggot.

[Anonymous No.22489483]

>>22488943
You read into things too much. Point out where the word “Jew” appears in that sentence. For all its worth I could be calling you a Polynesian.

>>22489312
Thank you

[Anonymous No.22489488]

>>22489483
You called me 'moshie' (Moshe) here >>22488648. Don't act innocent.

[Anonymous No.22489490]

>>22489327
The first genuine right wing anarchist text was Gustav De Molinari - The Production Of Security
And yes I’ve read it. It came out in 1849. Which possibly predates Proudhon and Bakunin

[Anonymous No.22489493]

>>22489488
Regardless, that was hours ago. You need to calm down. If you’re so bent out of shape over banter I got some bad news for you.

[Anonymous No.22489499]

>>22489493
I'm only replying because you replied. Projection much?

[Anonymous No.22489625]

>>22488450
>calvinist brazil with nuclear weapons.
Damn.

[Anonymous No.22489630]

>>22487337
good post.

[Anonymous No.22489976]

>>22489473
Total hypocrite, idolizes a rapist and is a Nixon supporter, as well as cowardly begging Manhattan to blast him to pieces because he knew Ozy had them.

[Anonymous No.22490024]

>>22487412
>Black bongs have never faced institutional racism before
Uhm excuse me sweatie but yes they have. Young black men in boarding schools would sometimes be called a 'blackie' by the teachers!

[Anonymous No.22490092]

>>22489423
Wrong, the United States does still officially have no restrictions on political speech. Only exceptions were things like fraud or death threats. That would certainly be true 20 years ago when the ACLU defended Nazi marches. Though again people are trying to change that. There is nothing liberal about Europe. Liberalism would be a huge improvement on the leftist regimes.

[Anonymous No.22490094]

>>22490092
It is certainly consistent with liberalism for people not to want to freely associate or employ people who say nigger. It is not liberalism when the government tries to jail dissident political voices like Ricky Vaughn. They feel they have to do this because the dissent has been so effective.

[Anonymous No.22490585]

>>22490094
Freedom of association no longer exists as an absolute right in America after the civil rights act, so I don’t buy it when liberals hide behind that to defend their censorship.

[Anonymous No.22490641]

>>22487227
Are you 13?

[Anonymous No.22490842]

>>22486901
Like many artists, he's a complete idiot when it comes to real life.

[Anonymous No.22490863]

>>22489976
>nixon supporter
>as well as cowardly begging Manhattan to blast him to pieces because he knew Ozy had them.
>t.screeching psychopath

[Anonymous No.22490917]

>>22489976
Thats an even worse analysis than Moore gave

[Anonymous No.22491006]

>>22487040
It is interesting how he wrote someone like Rorschach to be a nuanced character as if repudiating Rorschach’s own worldview as black and white but everything Moore says IRL is utterly just black and white, if you’re not with us you’re evil etc. Would have liked to talk to Moore in the 80s since he clearly peaked as an artist then

[Anonymous No.22491338]

>>22488271
The thing is I think even most black people don't support that shit anymore. Just white women.

[Anonymous No.22491532]

>>22491338
This is such a dumb talking point. Pretty much every black supports BLM. Maybe they aren’t donating as much (because they dont have money), but almost every black will at least verbally support the cause. Its not all white peoples fault, even the scary white women lmao

[Anonymous No.22491580]

>>22491532
go back

[Anonymous No.22491634]

>>22491006
Probably too much drugs.

[Anonymous No.22491639]

>>22491580
T.incel raging at white women for not calling him back

[Anonymous No.22491712]

>>22491639
Just rape. The state exists to oppress male desire.

[Anonymous No.22491718]

>>22489499
>I know you are but what am I?
Just take the L

[Anonymous No.22491737]

>>22486901
Fools and their money are soon parted

[Anonymous No.22491753]

>>22491532
>scary white women
They're ugly, not scary

[Anonymous No.22491796]

>>22487623
>2022
>6 niggers died in total
its like a negro holocaust

[Anonymous No.22492109]

>>22486921
>Especially since all his work is about America
How about hou actually read the books you post about, you spastic nigger?

[Anonymous No.22492368]

>>22486901
>alan moore
>extraordinary gesture

[Anonymous No.22492376]

>anarchists are your friends
These people were showing their colors decades ago and nobody cared

[Anonymous No.22492449]

>>22486901
stunning and brave
take that chuds
that'll show em

[Anonymous No.22493496]

>>22487025
All charities embezzle donations

[Anonymous No.22493604]

>>22486901
that's some pretty pathetic virtue signalling really, does he know they still hate him and want him dead?

[Anonymous No.22493661]

>>22486921
Never knew this and puts it in perspective. Thanks and have the (U)