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22603598 No.22603598 [Reply] [Original]

How do I even start Self-Studying anything like Philosophy, Sociology or whatever the fuck? What's the system?

>> No.22603601

>>22603598
ahhh thanks for this
Start with the Greeks.

>> No.22603619
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22603619

>>22603601

>> No.22603620

>>22603598
Pick a topic that you are interested in learning about.
Go to the local library or to a dubious or "not so dubious" internet site.
Read the classic work on the subject you like.

Trust me.

You probably won't get a Master's or anything like that with this system, but you'll be more into the subject than most students who don't even read the classics.

About sociology: Learn enough statistics.
Most of the really relevant correlations in sciences like psychology, sociology or so are correlations.
The rest is just what theorist xy said.
(To be honest, I was never deep into socio. more like psychology as I was younger.)

t. somebody who reads a lot about this kind of stuff but study something different.

>> No.22603730

>>22603598
For philosophy start with the Greeks. For something like sociology find some textbooks and read them until you start coming across authors that are frequently cited as fundamental contributors and then go and read those authors.

>> No.22603766

>>22603620
Then realize that correlations don't imply causality and therefore all those "sciences" are one big scam.

>> No.22603777

>>22603766
Judea Pearl might be worth a read

>> No.22604128

>>22603598
read John Locke's Improvement of the Understanding

>> No.22605598

>>22603598
Start with the Bible.

>> No.22606510

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91gT68xeDMM

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start with the textbooks

>> No.22606563

>>22603598
>How to Read a Book by Mortimer Adler
>Gwynne's Grammar by N.M Gwynne
>Socratic Logic by Peter Kreeft
>Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student by Corbett

Start doing Lingua Latina/Athenaze to read the classics in their original languages. If you want more trivium stuff, there are tons of book options, but keep this in mind:
Dionysis Thrax split grammar into six branches
- Knowledge prosody
- Writing
- Knowledge of dialects
- Discovery of etymologies
- The Accurate account of analogies
- Literary Criticism (the noblest part)

The basic works of Plato are The Death of Socrates, The Republic, Phaedrus, and Symposium.

As for Aristotle, do Poetics, Nichomachean Ethics, Rhetoric, Metaphysics, Politics, etc.

From there you can go through the Stoics and then some Christians like Augustine and Aquinas, and so on. Try to write a little bit as it will help you sort through your thoughts on a book.

>> No.22606565

>>22603598
Watch bunch of youtube videos about, not even kidding

>> No.22606569

>>22606563
and you dont need to do everything trivium related before diving in; in fact, application of what you learn from Adler and Kreeft are best when read simultaneously with some basic works. Try doing Hamlet or some other play with commentaries to see how people interpret things differently.

>> No.22607686

>>22606563
>>Socratic Logic by Peter Kreeft
shit this looks kino. I take it this is literally "the greeks for dummies"

>> No.22607814

>>22603598
>Sociology
the University of Amsterdam has some free courses on youtube covering the ideas of classical sociologists, so Comte, Durkheim, Weber and others. Start learning about them and read what interests you:
https://youtu.be/xKCxr9qHnAI?si=dPvTzyaCY5MLDT_3

>> No.22607819

>>22603598
I got a step by step for you
1) google subject to find wikipedia or course reading list
2) look at authors on wiki/list in chronological order
3)read their books in that order
Go get em champ.

>> No.22607865

>>22607686
It's the Organon for dummies. He's definitely trying to make you a Realist though lol.

>> No.22608145

>>22607814
thanks lad