/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.23104402]

Flying magician Edition.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS
>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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[Anonymous No.23104421]

Need rec for power fantasy, like Overlord. No progression fantasy though, just want someone overpowered from beginning to end but doesn't become a god.

[Anonymous No.23104432]

Read Beyond Apollo

[Anonymous No.23104437]

[Anonymous No.23104450]

>>23104402
This is my current favorite fantasy book. It sounds cliche but it’s not mary sue at all

[Anonymous No.23104509]

>>23104421
>progression fantasy
what in the absolute fuck
why do homosexual negro zoomers keep inventing new ways to describe "character arcs" and "story arcs"?

[Anonymous No.23104539]

>>23104421
What did you like about it? Overlord is one of my favorite anime; haven't read it.

[Anonymous No.23104554]

>>23104509
Because character arcs don't need "and MC grew stronger physically/magically" as a conclusion.

[Anonymous No.23104556]

>>23104554
the implication of that is a prerequisite of a character arc. what is wrong with zoomers?

[Anonymous No.23104558]

>>23104509
An epidemic of chinkminded bug children from TikTok and anime watching.

[Anonymous No.23104610]

>>23104509
I always laugh when I'm reminded they added "being black" to the faggot flag.

[Anonymous No.23104614]

>>23104421
Dodging Prison and Stealing Witches

[Anonymous No.23104619]

>>23104614
>harry potter fanfiction
the absolute state of this board

[Anonymous No.23104622]

>>23104610

[Anonymous No.23104627]

>>23104610
That's not half as funny as when they added straight cis people to it.

[Anonymous No.23104629]

>>23104622
the hydra has many heads

[Anonymous No.23104653]

>>23104421
If you liked the amoral god-like heroes who kill masses of people I recommend The Idaten Deities Know Only Peace. They all start out OP, but the enemies get stronger. It's more fucked up than Overlord (like adult demons having sex with kids), but the violence and god-like powers were still fun.

[Anonymous No.23104675]

>>23104402
I'm almost done with Book of the New Sun and I've not liked it very much :(

[Anonymous No.23104689]

We've all heard about LitRPG, but what does /sffg/ feel about RPG-Lit?

[Anonymous No.23104692]

>>23104509
Progression fantasy is not "character development" or "story arcs", it's "the character literally levels up his arbitrary Dungeons and Dragons® stat-page from Saiyan to Super Saiyan x3".

[Anonymous No.23104703]

Is /wg/ correct that genre fiction is universally terrible and meant for retards and women?

[Anonymous No.23104709]

>>23104703
Wallpapers General cares about literature?

[Anonymous No.23104724]

>>23104509
Progression fantasy usually means only one MC and very few, if any, PoV changes and includes perpetual progression in magic, cultivation, or whatever magical system the world has that increases the MC's power. It could include gamelit/litrpg elements but those are kind of sub genres that fall under the umbrella of progression fantasy and are not a necessity
well that would be my definition anyway

[Anonymous No.23104762]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.23104764]

Is Miyazaki a Bakkerfag?

[Anonymous No.23104767]

>>23098951
>RE: Excession

>4.1 We hereby open the discussion on the Taussig Matter.
>oo
>x Anticipation Of A New Lover's Arrival, The (GSV, Plate class):
>Right. First, this should not be kept secret, even for a limited time. I object in the strongest possible terms to the fact that the instant we stumble over possibly the most important thing anybody's ever found anywhere ever, the first thing SC does is snap into Full-Scale Raving Paranoia mode and apply this M32 total-secrecy-or-we'll-pull-your-plugs-out-baby shit.

>x Wisdom Like Silence (GSV, Continent class):
>I was not aware that the Shoot Them Later was part of this Core Group! No entity with an IF of less than 100% is supposed even to be considered for inclusion in this Group! No Eccentric or Ulterior craft are eligible! LSV Serious Callers Only; said message was relayed through you; provide an explanation immediately!
>oo
>x Serious Callers Only (LSV, Tundra Class):
>No.

>x Wisdom Like Silence (GSV, Continent class):
>But the Not Invented Here was reported destroyed in 2.31! Identify yourself, you liar! Security breach! What is going on here?
>oo
>x Shoot Them Later (Eccentric, Culture Ulterior, AhForgetlt tendency [t. rated Integration Factor 73%, vessel rated 99%]):
>Tee hee.

i hope this is formatted right

THESE FUCKING SHIPS
Turns out I'm reading this entire book and it has easily been my favorite Culture methinks.

[Anonymous No.23104772]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince

[Anonymous No.23104805]

>>23104762
>The Prince of Nothing
Of course /sffg/ recommends this dogshit where the author can't write female characters worth shit and every word put on paper drips of autofellating philosophical drivel the author learned in philosophy 101.

[Anonymous No.23104834]

>>23104805
>trying to hijack bait with more bait

[Anonymous No.23104863]

>>23104402
>>23104421
>>23104432
>>23104437
>>23104450
>>23104692
>>23104689
>>23104675
>>23104653
>>23104629
>>23104627
>>23104622
sneed
dunsany is KING

[Anonymous No.23104898]

Apparently there's a Cixin Liu anime now. No, it's not about Three Body Problemm

[Anonymous No.23104906]

>>23104898
Okay, then why don't you share some information about it? You idiot, did you want this (you)? There. You got it.

[Anonymous No.23104909]

>>23104724
how can people take umbrage with the word "slop" when things like this unironically exist

[Anonymous No.23104926]

>>23104909
because the people who append "slop" to everything aren't interesting in having a discussion, they're just retarded newfags from reddit making console wars out of the culture wars

[Anonymous No.23104980]

Just started 3 body problem. Tell me asap, am I supposed to have prior knowledge on the Cultural Revolution.

[Anonymous No.23104990]

Just found out Kagney Linn Karter died, RIP.
Her mommy/son scenes were cool

[Anonymous No.23104998]

>>23104926
Fuck off, slopper.

[Anonymous No.23105014]

>>23104767
Excession is one of my all time faves
I loved the explanation of how drones work when one tried to escape the ship that was subverted

[Anonymous No.23105091]

>>23104805
>Woman says she loves an overweight wizard
>He's gone for like a week
>She hops on some blonde chad's dick almost immediately after he spouts some nice sounding new age babble

Bakker is an astute observer of the human condition.

[Anonymous No.23105100]

>>23105091
achamian just cannot get a break

[Anonymous No.23105103]

>>23104980
You should know what Mao thought about the sun, and that it was illegal to possess books with western ideals.

[Anonymous No.23105119]

>>23104926
why would they want to have a discussion about slop? if you can name one good example of "progression fantasy" that holds up to my exacting literature standards, then I will refrain from using the word slop for at least one week.

[Anonymous No.23105211]

>>23105119
I'm not saying that progression fantasy is good, far from it, I'm just bored with sour grapes midwit anti-language that dismisses everything out of hand just for the sake of repeating a funny word you heard on the internet ten million times. A person who reflexively calls a particular genre, no matter how awful, "goyslop" is the same type of person who's going to call EVERYTHING goyslop, simply because he's an insincere moron overdosed on so many levels of post-irony that he's utterly abandoned the reality of his own existence, so there's no reason whatsoever to waste time talking to such an idiot, any more than there is trying to convince a deranged tranny that he's not a woman.
Either talk about something in intelligent meaningful language, or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.23105216]

>>23105211
have you considered not reading slop?

[Anonymous No.23105218]

>>23105216
epic post my fellow 2022 oldfag :DDDDDDD

[Anonymous No.23105220]

>>23105218
I've been browsing this website since 2011. if you faggots insist on eating shit, do not be surprised if people call you shit eaters. and do not cry about it either. calling people newfags and you post this cringe shit. embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.23105225]

>>23105220
Nobody who came to this website before 2020 uses the word goyslop unironically.

[Anonymous No.23105226]

>>23105220
>2011
a rare honest newfag who confirms it

[Anonymous No.23105254]

>>23105226
unlike you I attach no significance to when someone started browsing a site. you complain about newfags using the word slop. I complain about newfags reading litrpg and "progression fantasy". cope retard.

[Anonymous No.23105255]

Which one of Joseph Andersons' books is the worst?

[Anonymous No.23105306]

23105254
>newfag attaches no significance to when someone started browsing a site
yes, and? all of your kind is like this

[Anonymous No.23105317]

I want to start The Black Company, is this it?

[Anonymous No.23105329]

>>23105255
lmao I forgot about that retard

[Anonymous No.23105353]

>>23105255
why

[Anonymous No.23105366]

>>23105014
The levels of intrigue within the conspiracy just grow and grow and it is grand to read.

[Anonymous No.23105374]

>>23104421
I think Overlord is terrible but you can pick another light novel almost entirely at random and get that premise. I'm not going to try and make a recommendation since I clearly have a different taste.
They (both LN authors and the companies that pick what gets translated to english) absolutely love to do the OP protagonist plot, it's genuinely hard to find one that doesn't do this (and when you do it'll be a crafting in another world premise isntead).

[Anonymous No.23105378]

>>23104556
Not really. Look at shonen anime. Everytime a character gets stronger it's not because a "character arc" but because they either train or unlock new powers.

[Anonymous No.23105384]

>>23105100
He did cuck his ex wife with her own daughter

[Anonymous No.23105386]

>>23104402
What does /sffg/ thinks about Ringworld? I bought it in a used store today

[Anonymous No.23105389]

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1708650419992494.webm

[Anonymous No.23105411]

>>23105378
Shonen anime is the worst example of this. Shonen anime protagonists win because of their nakama.

[Anonymous No.23105434]

>>23105386
The sequel to Flatland we didn't know we needed.

[Anonymous No.23105470]

>>23105411
Nah, they are the best example of "progression fantasy".
>The most simplistic definition for the genre, is a fantasy series where the main character starts off with little to no power and grows in strength throughout the series, usually ending up as one of the strongest characters around by the conclusion.
This is literally the whole plot of every single shonen.

[Anonymous No.23105494]

>>23104709
No. And 90% of the shit posted there is genre fiction, so I don't know what that fag is talking about

[Anonymous No.23105524]

>>23105386
A neat idea for a Big Dumb Object. The actual story is terrible.

[Anonymous No.23105568]

Any ETA on Omniscience?

[Anonymous No.23105590]

>>23105470
not really, most shonens start with already powerful protagonists and only advance when the author basically runs out of battle ideas for the current powers
prog fant is obviously ripping elements from shonen but videogames are the more obvious source of inspiration for the power increases

[Anonymous No.23105601]

>>23105590
Nah you are only thinking about Dragon Ball, when in most shonens the protagonist starts as a completely normal guy.

[Anonymous No.23105788]

Morning senpai
*Yawns as I wake up and turn I start casting a potent but gentle spell of health (+500) over us*
"Exerus potem ancum medicus" I begin to chant as I wave my crystal wand

[Anonymous No.23106078]

Good Lit-RPG

>The Warlord
>Age of Stone
>Overgeared
>The Nailmaker
>Cinnamon Bun
>Book of The Dead
>The Tutorial Is Too Hard
>The Reincarnation of Alysara
>Dawn of The Void
>Eight
>Hell Difficulty Tutorial
>As Good as Dead
>The Mana Influx
>Red Mage


Good Fantasy and sci-fi

>A Neets Guide To Becoming A God
>The Reality Dysfunction
>What We Do To Survive
>The Murderbot Diaries
>Melody of Mana
>The Dragon Riders of Pern
>Warlock of The Magus World
>Ringworld
>Neuromancer
>12 Miles Below
>Berserk
>There Are Superheroes In This Story
>A Practical Guide To Sorcery
>Healer of Monsters
>Blame
>Tenebroum
>Sokaiseva
>I Am Not Chaotic Evil
>Violent Solutions

[Anonymous No.23106176]

i love to read parapolitics and schizo twitter in my spare time
a lot of it is bullshit, but some is indicting

[Anonymous No.23106192]

>>23106176
parapolitics? does this mean theories like how the world is controlled by a small group of supernatural horrors?

[Anonymous No.23106207]

>Author introduces a romantic subplot
>He makes the protag fall for the rough tomboy tough girl type
Yup it's trash. Why are the autists who write these fantasy novels so obsessed with tomboys?

[Anonymous No.23106243]

>>23106192
no more like how a certain podcast could be a limited hangout or how certain journalists or public figures are affiliated with billionaires and so on
and, of course, a lot of cia stuff
kinda depends at the kind of parapolitics you're looking at, there's sane and levelheaded posters and there's also the types who think it's satanism and jews all the way down

[Anonymous No.23106259]

Eeeugh. I forgot the female narrator for Wheel of Time's audiobook suddenly switches Min's voice in the final books. Making her sound higher and ditzier.
Was Min's voice not described as husky before? Why the change? It was never that high before.

[Anonymous No.23106262]

>>23106207
Fag

[Anonymous No.23106280]

>>23106243
i wonder why no one’s written an urban fantasy series where it’s satanism and jews all the way down

[Anonymous No.23106290]

>>23106280
because the sort of people attracted to urban fantasy have no real overlap with conspiracy theories and parapolitics

[Anonymous No.23106293]

>>23106280
>>23106290
Lord of the Mysteries but if it were real

[Anonymous No.23106549]

>>23105386
Worth a read, mystery goes on for awhile, takes awhile to land on the ring.

[Anonymous No.23106635]

What's the consensus on magic in sword and sorcery novels? Do you prefer it to be DnD style or more ephemeral?

[Anonymous No.23106651]

>>23106635
DnD style magic as in Vancian magic that is exactly one precise effect that needs to be prepared in a limited spell slot which refreshes once a day is already pretty meh in ttrpgs so I don't really want to see it in novels.
A ttrpg is a game that follows along a certain set of rules so magic needs to be reigned in.
Especially in s&s novels I don't want to hear any bulllshit about a magic system or whatever.

[Anonymous No.23106727]

>>23106280
You have to get published, you know. Or maybe not anymore.

[Anonymous No.23106729]

>>23106280
probably some obscure self-published novel slowly falling apart at the bottom of Amazon urban fantasy page

[Anonymous No.23106732]

>>23106635
Honestly I prefer the rawness of magic in stories like Howard's, where magic is everywhere, but its power varies from just especially strong hypnotism and illusions to gods abducting people and such.

[Anonymous No.23106737]

>>23106727
You could just do an F Gardner and self publish then advertise on 4chan

[Anonymous No.23106738]

>>23106635
>>23106651
I liked the way mother of learning used like 90% just copy pasted D&D spells but omitted the vancian crap and just had everyone have their personal mana pool that they replenish using ambient mana that varies from place to place.

And I think I do prefer there being specific spells that you can maybe alter in some ways, not have magic do basically anything the plot demands, but not the point of number crunching autism and overly complex shit.

[Anonymous No.23106803]

https://www.book-filter.com/

[Anonymous No.23106865]

>>23106803
>Sarah J Maas
Has anyone in this hellhole actually read her? I kund of want to read her just to see. It's the same kind of intrusive thoughts that makes you want to stick your hand in a mouse trap just to see what the experience is like.

[Anonymous No.23106941]

>>23106865
9 members of the /sffg/ Goodreads group have rated the first book. The ratings are almost entirely what you ought to expect them to be.

[Anonymous No.23107007]

> DNF'd @ 15% after the 3rd casual rape
> A very dark and grim postapocalyptic tale about a society that bases all its decicions on coinflipping. Almost good, but falls apart over its casual treatment of rape :-(

[Anonymous No.23107010]

This man grabs your girlfriend's ass in a club. What do you do?

[Anonymous No.23107015]

>>23107010
Point out his wedding ring and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.23107021]

Thomas Covenant worth a look at? Kind of interested in it because of the elf rape scene and how the main character justifies his actions because he thinks everything happening to him is one big schizoid fantasy trip.

[Anonymous No.23107022]

>>23107010
Vonnegut is le wholesome chungus who respects women and would do no such thing. Finding out his wife divorced him because she found God and couldn't tolerate his reddit atheism was really funny though. I adore the guy's work but I also like to poke fun at him.

[Anonymous No.23107176]

>>23106207
If she's cute with big tiddies then it's fine. But yea usually it's gay.

[Anonymous No.23107184]

>>23105225
>t. goyslopper

[Anonymous No.23107190]

>>23105091
That's exactly how women behave though.

[Anonymous No.23107290]

[Anonymous No.23107348]

>>23107290
Fang Yuan was in deep green robes that had been torn to shreds. His hair was disheveled and his entire body was covered in blood. He looked around.

The bloody robes waved lightly in the mountain breeze like a war flag.

[Anonymous No.23107385]

>>23106732
i like how in Howard’s stories, magic is either using special poisons and flash powder to fuck with people, or schizo Atlantean-Agarthan horrors.

[Anonymous No.23107498]

[Anonymous No.23107543]

>>23104509
You're too retarded to be looking down on anyone brother.

[Anonymous No.23107547]

Helldivers made me re-read Starship Troopers, and now I want more military sci-fi. Anyone got some recommendations?

[Anonymous No.23107564]

>>23107547
ciaphas cain novels. they might be seen as 40k shit, but they are better then regular slop, even fun.

[Anonymous No.23107567]

>>23107564
Already read them, loved the Necron planet novel the most.

[Anonymous No.23107577]

>>23107547
Galaxy's Edge series by Nick Cole

[Anonymous No.23107584]

>>23107577
Damn, 15 entire books in the series?
Is it slop? Genuine question.

[Anonymous No.23107609]

>>23106941
How can i find that goodreads group?

[Anonymous No.23107639]

>>23107609
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

[Anonymous No.23107659]

>>23107584
It's Rightwing Star Wars with the gimmick of 'What if the Stormtroopers were the good guys.' If that doesn't appeal to you then don't bother.

[Anonymous No.23107678]

>>23107659
I'll give it a shot, I think if a military novel was written by someone who isn't at least a bit extreme, it'd blow cock.

[Anonymous No.23107707]

>>23107678
I've only read the first 4 novels and enjoyed them to varying degrees. First novel is about a group of not-Stormtroopers trapped on a hostile planet so you should enjoy that one at least.

[Anonymous No.23107739]

>>23107547
>>23107577
Strange Company by Nick Cole as well. It's pretty much The Black Company IN SPAAAAAACE.

[Anonymous No.23107783]

>>23107577
>>23107739
Anything that isn't only focused on the actual war and action aspect? I've kept looking also downloaded Armor by Steakley.

[Anonymous No.23107792]

>>23107609
It's literally in the OP

[Anonymous No.23107802]

>>23107783
Undying Mercenaries

[Anonymous No.23107823]

>>23106865
someone once posted an excerpt from one of the books
it read like a 14 year old girl's fanfic

[Anonymous No.23107849]

>>23107823
Post it again.

[Anonymous No.23107860]

>>23107547
I always say this but Death's Head by David Gunn

[Anonymous No.23107890]

>>23107860
kek I was going to rec that as well, but it will never be finished.

[Anonymous No.23107893]

>>23107547
The only thing that approaches Starship Troopers is Forever War (don't read the sequels)

[Anonymous No.23107894]

>Elric and his counterparts fuse into one being to ultimately defeat Agak and his sister who are threatning the multiverse

Almost done with Sailors on the Sea of Fate. I'm liking how batshit insane and balls to the wall cray Moorcock makes it throwing all sorts of conventional rules out of the window to do his own thing kind of reminds me of something out of Dragonball too

[Anonymous No.23107913]

>>23107007
wow they weren't kidding, the first sentence features "atom-raped"

[Anonymous No.23107918]

>>23107894
>kind of reminds me of something out of Dragonball too

[Anonymous No.23107999]

I have never once read military-focus SF literature that turned out good. The closest I've ever come to it is Star Wars and Star Trek, and neither of those are particularly militarily inclined.
Come to think of it, I haven't read any good military fantasy either - Elizabeth Moon fucking sucks.
For that matter, most of the conventional modern military fiction and nonfiction sucks too - A Soldier's Story, Catch-22, The Things They Carried - the only one that was ever worth reading in the first place was All Quiet On the Western Front and that one was still whiny kraut moralizing.

[Anonymous No.23108002]

>>23105119
Practical Guide to Sorcery is probably the best that I've read but that probably comes from the fact that it's one chapter a week. A lot of these web novels have release schedules of one chapter a day, though there are some that get two, which causes obvious quality problems and they rightly deserve to be called slop

[Anonymous No.23108008]

>>23107999

[Anonymous No.23108104]

>>23107893
Isn't forever war the one where by the end of the book humanity became monosexed hivemind people?
The book was amazing right up until that, which felt like a weird tonal shift. What was he even going for, the feeling veterans have when they have to reintegrate with civilians?

[Anonymous No.23108111]

>>23108104
It's called speculative fiction for a reason

[Anonymous No.23108162]

>>23108008
cared enough to post
also
>8008

[Anonymous No.23108165]

>>23107999
Starship Troopers was good doe.

[Anonymous No.23108339]

>>23106738
>omitted the vancian crap and just had everyone have their personal mana pool that they replenish using ambient mana that varies from place to place
this sounds so comfy

[Anonymous No.23108348]

>>23108002
alright bitch it better be worth reading or you'll be sorry

[Anonymous No.23108377]

>>23106738
>>23108339
That's most video game magic systems.

[Anonymous No.23108382]

>>23108165
I really didn't like it.
Not for the faggy "muh fascism" reason that retarded liberals who don't have enough time or intellect to read through The Phantom Tollbooth pretend to virtue signal by (despite the fact that Johnny Rico is a fucking Filipino and the first brown protagonist in SF/fantasy that I'm aware of), but simply because it's fucking boring. 90% of the book is navelgazing about future political ideals, and the remaining 10% amounts to a guy flying an F-35 launching BVR missiles up the ass of a hajji 600 miles away, which is highly prophetic, but not particularly entertaining.
Robert Heinlein is just Asimov with testicles.

[Anonymous No.23108394]

Tie-breaking round for /lit/'s favorite children's books. Vote here :

https://forms.gle/QuSzQ6KgfGSex9uq7

Related thread: >>23108191

[Anonymous No.23108396]

In works like The Matrix and Sword Art Online, virtual worlds are displayed as an alternative to live a life. In Matrix, everyone is uncounciously living in a virtual world, while in Sword Art Online they are forced to do so for a few years. In Matrix, even the few people who become aware eventually wonder if living their life in the Matrix is any less real than in the real world. In Sword Art Online, some people give up on beating the game (and thus being able to escape the virtual world) and start living their lifes in the virtual world, in peace, with no hope to ever come back.

Both of these works explore what living a life means, and whether the world being virtual or real makes any difference. Are there any non-fiction works that discuss this question?

[Anonymous No.23108428]

Just finished pic related. It was based. Oden, despite being a virtue signaling douche, is quite possibly the best Conan pastiche writer ever. Not just because the story was good, but because his characterization of Conan is damn near perfect and his prose is almost an exact replica of REH's without ever feeling like a lesser imitation. And there's no wokeslop to be found in the story either. Highly recommended for fellow Conanchads.

[Anonymous No.23108446]

>>23108428
How are the non-Howard Conan books? Is there a proper collection or omnibus or reading order for them? I swear I've seen em dating back to the 70s at least, but I only ever watched the Arnold movies, read this comic book anthology from the 2000s with this Bruce Timm short about "By Crom that's a good joke" and the complete collection of REH stories presented in a pulp magazine format of 3 columns of text per page.

[Anonymous No.23108460]

>>23108446
There's a number of them, but only a few are worth reading.
https://www.blackgate.com/2018/01/04/by-crom-some-conans-are-more-equal-than-others/
Here's an article about what which older books are worth reading. For the new ones definitely read Oden's and Hocking's Black Starlight. And even though the writer of that article didn't like it you should read Wagner's Road of Kings.

[Anonymous No.23108477]

>>23108382
Honestly the future political ideas is actually what I really liked about it, as it created a world that is developed, imho, and an interesting and plausible future. Was it masturbating based on his ideal mode of view as a liberal? Yeah, it was, but it was interesting. I liked seeing how in-world characters justified the existence of the state, even if I didn't agree with certain parts of it.

Like, I know the whole Moral History classes were just Heinlein directly spouting what he wants people to believe in, but they were interesting and eloquent enough that they were my favourite sections of the book, followed by the Bootcamp court martial section.

[Anonymous No.23108491]

>>23105386
Niven is clearly a dweeb, has the personality of Sanderson but is a passable writer. Some passages hurt to read. Story overall middling

[Anonymous No.23108597]

[Anonymous No.23108605]

>>23108597
i sniggered

[Anonymous No.23108618]

>>23108597
bazinga!

[Anonymous No.23108689]

>>23108597
I am 100% confident the person who made this looks like Brian Posehn.

[Anonymous No.23108741]

Someone in the art department of Prometheus definitely read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.23108757]

>be hard sci fi fag, someone gives me a rec “oh check out this one, you’ll love it”
>read synopsis
>mfw aliens
when i say hard i mean HARD nigga not half chubbed fantasy slop. Every time.

[Anonymous No.23108761]

>>23108757
I can't imagine being this insufferable

[Anonymous No.23108771]

>>23108757
>make up your own definition to genres
>throw an autistic fit when your headcanon does not extend into external reality

[Anonymous No.23108777]

>>23108757
But when I asked you for a hard sf rec, you said Blindsight.

[Anonymous No.23108781]

>>23107547

[Anonymous No.23108812]

>>23108761
>>23108771
Not wanting aliums in your hard sci fi is like the least controversial opinion about that particular subgenre of all time next to time travel and lightspeed travel. Why are you seething?

[Anonymous No.23108815]

aw newfag bot broke and cast the seethe spell :c

[Anonymous No.23108824]

>>23108815
>cast the seethe spell

Literally cannot help himself from meandering into fantasyslop terminology while in the midst of a hard SF conversation

[Anonymous No.23108868]

>>23108757
There is no such thing as hard SF, since all SF ipso facto presupposes fantasy - namely unobserved unproven technology based purely off of speculation and imagination. If a man goes to the moon, that's not SF, that's just a repeat of history - if a man goes to Mars, that's not SF, that's fantasy, because it is, as of this point in time, technologically infeasible if not impossible, and any such story that discusses such a concept as if it were reality is playing so fast and loose with the facts it may as well be Star Wars.

[Anonymous No.23108879]

>>23108868
A story about a man going to the moon isn’t science fiction just because it happened irl? So all stories about murder are repeats of history?

[Anonymous No.23108884]

>>23107893
>>23108104
>last remnants of non hivemind humanity try to abuse FTL travel to get into the backrooms so Stargate-eque Ascended beings start splatting people to get them to stop before eventually appearing to them in the guise of Theme-park mascots, talking a load of nonsense before unsplatting everyone and fucking off back into space with only vague promises of explaining anything
I don't know what the fuck the dude was smoking when he wrote this but I've never seen something jump the shark so badly. I actually kind of liked the idea of exploring what it would be like to be a non-hivemind person in a hivemind society but once the humans get on the ship things just go so off the rails.
The "they're going to force everyone to be gay as a form of population control and heterosexuals will be discriminated against" subplot is also very funny

[Anonymous No.23108894]

>>23108879
If a story about a guy going on a roadtrip in a car isn't scifi then a story about a guy going to the moon in a standard space shuttle isn't scifi. It's just fiction.

[Anonymous No.23108897]

>>23108597
Has this been updated or changed since you last posted it?

I was almost tempted to buy a halo book because of your list but wasn't sure if it was one of the good ones.

[Anonymous No.23108934]

>>23108741
Bakker isn't as original as you think he is

[Anonymous No.23108939]

>>23105254
>>unlike you I attach no significance to when someone started browsing a site
Because you're a newfag and part of a cancerous wave of such posters who ruined this website. People like you never belonged here, so you had to destroy it to make yourself a home.

[Anonymous No.23108941]

>>23108884
For some reason I remembered that happening in the sequel.

[Anonymous No.23108944]

>>23108812
because sci fi is speculative by nature. drawing the line at "no extraterrestrials" because of your autism is like drawing the line at more races than humans elves and dwarves in fantasy. stop qualifying your autism with some random genre tag that means nothing and only serves to inform women or the easily swayed and slow of mind.

[Anonymous No.23108951]

>>23108879
if that story was written before a man went to the moon in real life... yes.
also, prove that man has gone to the moon. you can't without posting sources from glowies. you will never go to the moon. that is why people write about it.

[Anonymous No.23108954]

>>23108951
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.23108955]

>>23108954
>no argument
>appeal to authority
pick one and only one

[Anonymous No.23108959]

>>23108955
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.23108972]

>>23108959
It's funny how the "hard"-SF autist exposes his crippling lack of humor and imagination. I think he'd get more entertainment out of a mathematics textbook than a novel.

[Anonymous No.23108975]

>>23108934
>as you think he is
Don't presume to know what I think. If you're genuinely interested, feel free to ask and we can have a meaningful conversation. Otherwise, let's not waste each other's time.

[Anonymous No.23108981]

Is it my personal preference in fantasy, or issue with authors that I somehow prefer YA books more than adult ones? I had way more fun reading Mistborn and Stormlight Archives over Black Company and Broken Earth.

[Anonymous No.23108994]

>>23108981
Personal preference.

[Anonymous No.23109064]

>>23108981
A lot of authors (typically pseudointellectuals) operate under the mistaken elitist assumption that literature is only "mature" or "respectable" if it's unenjoyable to read, and therefore make their novels as dry and bleak as humanly possible in order to gain the maximum amount of literary clout by making sure nobody wants to read their books.

[Anonymous No.23109073]

>>23109064
based

[Anonymous No.23109077]

>>23108781
I hate women.

[Anonymous No.23109109]

>>23109077
based

[Anonymous No.23109112]

>>23109109
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.23109134]

>>23108981
try reading blood song. the book just has to be extremely well written.

[Anonymous No.23109156]

>>23104692
If that description is accurate I already hate it

[Anonymous No.23109194]

Where did this idea that aliens are more intelligent than us come from?
In every depiction of aliens I've seen, they're always assumed to be hyper advanced

[Anonymous No.23109204]

>>23109194
Because it's easier to give them handwavy technology and it's harder to write a good story about retarded aliens. That one Ender's Game sequel about the pig aliens that plant trees in people managed it but you actually have to not be retarded to do it.

[Anonymous No.23109207]

>>23104767
Excession is my favorite culture book purely because of how fun reading the Minds' forum posts is.

[Anonymous No.23109249]

Are the Martian Chronicles any good?

[Anonymous No.23109255]

>>23109249
More like the Fartian Chronicles.

[Anonymous No.23109264]

>>23109207
I wish the book had focused more on them instead of Generic Male Playboy Protag #5093129 and his adventures. It's like half a fantastic enthralling book and half stinky smelly poo.

[Anonymous No.23109268]

>want more sci-fi like Wells written during that time period
>my searching only leads me to modern novels set during LE HECKIN STEAMPUNK VICTORIAN COBBLESTONES

[Anonymous No.23109296]

finished mask the sorcerer, boy that college of shadows segment was retarded.

[Anonymous No.23109302]

Finished Mask of the Sorcerer too; boy that College of Shadows segment was bussin.

[Anonymous No.23109319]

>looking at "best twists of all time!" lists on goodreads
>immediately confronted with shit like asoiaf and harry potter
laugh out fucking loud

[Anonymous No.23109322]

>>23109319
Why would you deliberately spoil twists?

[Anonymous No.23109326]

>>23109322
Twists are for women and children.

[Anonymous No.23109327]

>>23109326
>pretending to be above a good cheeky twist
Americans are a joke

[Anonymous No.23109330]

Are there good guides on Asmiov and Clarke?

[Anonymous No.23109333]

>>23109327
Americans are too busy living in your head rent-free to be a joke.

[Anonymous No.23109334]

>>23109302
The college section felt like it was from a completely different book

And not in a good way

[Anonymous No.23109337]

>>23109330
Yes, skip them

genuinely skip Asimov

[Anonymous No.23109339]

>>23109337
But why? I heard Foundation and the robot books were good

[Anonymous No.23109343]

>>23109330
Read the Foundation. If you like his writing style, finish the series, read the Robots series then the Empire series then go fuck yourself I guess.

[Anonymous No.23109345]

>>23109339
The robot books are an interesting artifact of early scifi. Foundation is so boring I'm amazed I finished it, except for Foundation and Empire, that's pretty good

[Anonymous No.23109381]

>>23109339
The likes of Asimov are only valuable insofar as they are relics of an extremely primitive and hoity-toity age of scifi that enjoyed sniffing its own farts.

[Anonymous No.23109389]

>>23109381
Then who should I actually read for proper classic sci-fi? I feel bad the only sci-fi I actually know is over the top space opera

[Anonymous No.23109413]

>>23109389
Well the classic-est of scifi is the REALLY primitive stuff like Jules Verne and H.G. Wells who were at the cutting edge of adventure novels and speculative fiction. Then you have the Pulp era of space opera, planetary romance, and weird fiction, like Flash Gordon, Barsoom, and H.P. Lovecraft. Then between the 40s-60s you have a lot of high-falutin' intellectual navel-gazing before things revert to the Star Wars/Star Trek-Alien/E.T. attitude that came to dominate SF between roughly 1970-2000.

[Anonymous No.23109418]

>>23109413
>verne and wells are primitive
But I like those guys ;-;

[Anonymous No.23109425]

>>23109389
What's your definition of classic? I've found the best writing by golden age scifi writers begins well into the 60s which is generally called new wave

Frankly I think there's slim pickings for good pre 60s scifi. The Stars My Destination is worth a read though

[Anonymous No.23109441]

>>23109418
I'm not saying primitive is inherently bad, just that the narratives do not correspond to what you would imagine anything resembling sci-fi to be for the most part owing to the fact that they're inventing the tropes that have yet to be rounded off.

[Anonymous No.23109450]

Got some Dick for my birthday. can't wait to read Ubik bros.

[Anonymous No.23109464]

>>23108597
Maddening image. The SW books aren't even in the right places. Master and Apprentices ending was predictable as hell. Dark Disciple is the best book in canon.

[Anonymous No.23109474]

>>23109425
> The Stars My Destination is worth a read though
One of the rare quality scifi books from that era that isn't a cheesy action hero blasting the shit out of aliens. It's basically "What if Foundation was good and didn't waste my time for 600 pages?"

[Anonymous No.23109506]

Anyone read BotNS?

[Anonymous No.23109514]

>>23109506
No, never heard of it. Quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.23109526]

>>23109514
A young torturer finds his destiny on an earth orbiting a dying sun

[Anonymous No.23109528]

>>23109526
He doesn't go to the new sun?

[Anonymous No.23109532]

>>23109528
I dont know I havent finished it

[Anonymous No.23109534]

>>23109506
New to me

[Anonymous No.23109535]

>after all this time
>we have finally landed on our new home planet
>i have chronicled my journey in these pages
>this truly was the Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.23109537]

Is Hyperion any good?

[Anonymous No.23109547]

>>23109506
Ada Palmer wrote a forward to BotNS. Her books are pretty interesting

[Anonymous No.23109549]

I keep seeing their names on awards, but who exactly are John Campbell and Hugo?

[Anonymous No.23109560]

>>23109549
Beats me

[Anonymous No.23109569]

>>23109549
https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/campbell_john_w_jr
The single editor most responsible for "The Golden Age of Science Fiction"

https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/gernsback_hugo
Editor
"The Father of Magazine Science Fiction".

[Anonymous No.23109576]

>>23109528
No, because the title is son because Severian is the second coming of the Messiah. It's a very Catholic series.

[Anonymous No.23109669]

For me it's S&S about muscle bros wrestling lizard men.

[Anonymous No.23109776]

>>23109669
name 15 examples

[Anonymous No.23109828]

>>23109776
No.

[Anonymous No.23109833]

>>23109776
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manowar_discography

[Anonymous No.23110003]

Any good stuff like God's Demon? I mean NOT about just being set in hell, but in viscerally weird and fucked up worlds in general. Not something like the Second Apocalypse which is weird and fucked up but grounded in historical human environments and cultures but like, the world itself.

[Anonymous No.23110135]

>>23110003
Perdido Street Station

[Anonymous No.23110164]

>>23110003
What’s your qualm with Second Apocalypse?
Reflects the madness of humanity and being pretty well desu.

[Anonymous No.23110261]

The Sandersonite CRETINS have come out of the woodwork to defend their indulgent drivel. I don't care about the CRABS or the PLANTS or your DUMB MAP when your characters have no spark of humanity and only exist so they can FLY AROUND AND FIGHT. Authors worthy of the name can draw real human tragedy from just 20 pages of two people talking in a room; the modern fantasy "author" can't provide a glimpse of humanity from 1000 PAGES of the most APOCALYPTIC CLASH of GOOD AND EVIL. I recently attempted to get through book one of Sanderson's "epic" Stormlight saga, and was FLOORED when he had to represent how characters feel by MAGICAL EMOTION FAIRIES because he was UNABLE to convey it through BELIEVABLE DIALOGUE. THIS IS THE MAN WHO HAS THE MOST POPULAR LECTURE ON WRITING ON YOUTUBE. It is no wonder that today's young fantasy writers think CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT is synonymous with "LEVELING UP". World-building represents the D&Dification of the Fantasy genre. The focus foremost on setting rather than character, prose, plot, or theme, can only be explained by the influx of AUTISTIC sons of 35 year old mothers who cannot understand or conceptualize human emotions or relations, and can't write for shit. BRANDON SANDERSON has destroyed an entire generation of writers, along with VIDEO GAMES, ANIME and AUTISM. It should be no surprise that the current trend in the genre are so-called "LitRPGs"--a derivative of ISEKAI, D&D, and VIDEO GAMES, because these stunted shut-ins have no exposure to the world beyond the mediated glow of their computer screens and the musky back rooms of tabletop gaming centers. MAGIC SYSTEMS are the product of STEM AUTISM and are completely irrelevant to anything that makes a story worth reading. The entire genre has become one big MALADAPTIVE DAYDREAM. The only solace is that fantasy is falling into such disrepute that it can safely be consigned to the same bin as YA fiction and romance slop.

[Anonymous No.23110266]

>>23108597
Every time you post an updated chart I'm more amazed by your dedication to loving trash and disliking books that are actually worth reading.

[Anonymous No.23110270]

>>23110135
FUCK he's good

[Anonymous No.23110274]

>>23110261
somewhat based post. fantasy has indeed fallen

but its soul shall never be tarnished and one day a savior will rise up from obscurity to retvrn SOVL to this decrepit genre Bakker could have been the one but the effort drove him mad

[Anonymous No.23110284]

>>23110274
no worries I'm working on my manuscript

[Anonymous No.23110299]

>>23110284
post a sample?

[Anonymous No.23110307]

>>23110299
never
you will never know the savior was an anon
you will read the book and you will be amazed but nothing will you lead you to the realization that it was me

[Anonymous No.23110315]

FUCK
I need your help finding a book I read as a teenager
There are only three minute detaiIs I half-remember:
>The beginning has a scene where some sort of nazgul ripoff attacks and kills some sort of mage/monk(?) using a swarm of maggots, they end up crawling into his face, very shocking for me back then
>The protagonist recalls his friend telling him that most erotic thing for a man was to kiss a girls thighs before eating her out
>The book ends on a cliffhanger where some sort of mentor figure reveals that the protagonist is actually dead and/or only artificially alive or something like that

These may all be totally off. I have no idea if the book was good or complete schlock but I can't stop thinking about it, it's driving me up the wall. Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.23110319]

>>23110307
>you will read the book and you will be amazed but nothing will you lead you to the realization that it was me
>you will read the book
i probably won't, since you've condemned your own self to obscurity with your coyness.
anyways the next great fantasist will be a video game developer, not a wRit3r. fantasy books are obsolete as a medium whilst vidya exists

[Anonymous No.23110336]

>>23108162
If posting had meaning or required effort you wouldn't do it

[Anonymous No.23110350]

>>23109576
It has strong Catholic themes, sure, but the content is more like mindfuck, rape, and atrocity. If you read this to bolster your faith in Christ, or imagine it somehow gatekeeps non-Christians, you're being ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.23110436]

the west has fallen

[Anonymous No.23110447]

Is Stormlight archive as cool as this art?

[Anonymous No.23110504]

>>23110447
no

[Anonymous No.23110734]

>>23109537
Yes. It's like The Commonwealth Saga but succinct.

[Anonymous No.23110749]

What I'm enjoying the most about Wyndham is how realistic his stories are. It's pure speculative fiction where he takes a 'what if' and allows it to play out logically. The relationships between the characters and their reactions to events always hit home emotionally.

[Anonymous No.23110753]

>>23110436
The art and title lead me to believe this was AI generated.

[Anonymous No.23110767]

Recommend me some sci fi and fantasy that really gets into tax policy. Does Martin accomplish this?

[Anonymous No.23110772]

>>23110767

[Anonymous No.23110777]

>>23104432
>>23104762
>>23104772
>>23104863
>>23104990
>>23105119
>>23105216
>>23105220
>>23105254
>>23105317
>>23105386
>>23106078
>>23107290
>>23107498
>>23108597
>>23108757
>>23108812
>>23108741
>>23109330
>>23109506
>>23110164
>>23110261
>>23110767
Great posts anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma?? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

[Anonymous No.23110782]

Nigga don't quote my post in your schizo gibberish

[Anonymous No.23110829]

>>23109547
>Gender politics, the novel, masquerading as science fiction
Anyone who says this is a good series is a faggot. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.23110849]

>>23109547
Not really sure what a foreword can add to a book like that.

[Anonymous No.23110871]

>>23110436
WMBF is based THOUGH

[Anonymous No.23110872]

>>23109506
about to finish claw, is severian horny all throughout the series?

[Anonymous No.23110931]

>>23110436
That title sounds like those absurdly long light novel titles.

[Anonymous No.23110987]

This is literally underrated. WTF? Better than Cradle.

[Anonymous No.23111037]

>>23106078
Actually good sff:
>The Time Machine
>The Hobbit
>The Stars My Destination
>The Broken Sword
>Neuromancer
>The End of Eternity
>Shadow of the Torturer
>Swords and Deviltry
>Conan
>Dune
>Illuminatus!
>The Forever War
>Blind Voices
>Fevre Dream
>Berserk
>Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
>Wizard of Earthsea
>Titus Groan
>Bridge of Birds
>Soon I Will Be Invincible
>Spaceman Blues
>The Time Ships
>A Matter for Men
>The Pastel City
>Cloud Atlas
>The Deep
>The Swords Trilogy
>Black Leopard Red Wolf
>Assassins Apprentice
>A Song of Ice and Fire
>The Darkness That Comes Before
>Jack Vance

[Anonymous No.23111058]

>>23110987
Looks like Pulpslop kino.

[Anonymous No.23111079]

>>23110987
imma get a crew
call me MCU
one per book
that's my hook
we be doin' avengers infinity
you be maxin' out on salinity
yeah I be sayin' you salty
barkin' like you a maltese
so open ya mouth an' take boffa deez
pshaw, gottem, ha ha

[Anonymous No.23111084]

>>23110135
gonna check this out

>>23110164
I actually really love second apocalypse but the environment is just plains and forests and not "canvas of flesh intermittently interrupted by gouts of flame and toxic fumes and everyone is a freakish monster wearing meat clothes" for example. I mean fucked up world as in the actual, physical setting is really weird. Another God's Demon pic.

[Anonymous No.23111090]

>>23110987
>Better than Cradle.
Not a hard mountain to climb.

[Anonymous No.23111099]

>>23110003
Lords of Dyscrasia

[Anonymous No.23111113]

>>23110003
Voidal series by Adrian Cole

[Anonymous No.23111139]

>8.7 books read since the last last/current/next
>_<!

[Anonymous No.23111143]

>>23111099
>>23111113
will also look into these

As another personal recommendation the Night Land by William Hope Hodgson is pretty good. Maybe you can get through the writing of the original, maybe you need the retold version with modern english, but the setting itself is unforgettable.

[Anonymous No.23111203]

Mistborn is gay as hell lol

[Anonymous No.23111212]

>>23111143
Checkout Nightland Racer. It's set in the same Nightland world.

[Anonymous No.23111257]

>>23111084
You keep bringing up Gods Demon. Is it really like a surreal hellscape?

[Anonymous No.23111355]

>>23111257
NTA, but technically it's Wayne Barlowe's Inferno that has all the (largely plotless) hellscape art in it. God's Demon is a fantasy novel about one of the chief archdemons in hell getting sick and tired of living for countless thousands of years in abject misery and degradation because it is decidedly NOT better to reign in hell that serve in heaven, and he decides to surreptitiously gather those fallen who regret severing their connection to the Most High in a conspiracy against the most depraved rulers of hell (in particular Beelzebub, a demon who was created by Lucifer as his regent and therefore has no memory of Heaven to recollect in the first place) who cannot brook any notions that their rule isn't the best.
Its sequel The Heart of Hell concerns primarily the quest of Lilith, First Woman and lover of Sargatanas, the archfiend who started the war against Beelzebub in the last book.
There's supposed to be a third novel in development, ostensibly titled "Lucifer's Soul", but there hasn't been much word about it.

Wayne Barlowe's instagram is filled with art of these, and not all of them are the wretched cruelties of Hell, a few select pieces allude to the glories of Heaven.

[Anonymous No.23111397]

>>23111355
bought.
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.23111414]

>>23110772
Holy shit. I actually saw that back in the day. I really liked the corporate dealings angle of two companies competing in the development and deployment of mech suits. And I seem to recall there was a plot to take over Japan by subtly influencing the price of grain.
But then it went full Evangelion knockoff and completely shit the bed.

[Anonymous No.23111442]

>>23111397
Also I forgot to mention that Lucifer has disappeared and noone knows where he is or what happened to him and Hell is ruled by Beelzebub, and there's a major subplot about the plight of damned souls, the chief of which is Hannibal Barca

[Anonymous No.23111473]

>>23111143
>maybe you need the retold version with modern english
I am going to murder you, that this even exists for a book written in the 20th century makes me seethe

[Anonymous No.23111508]

>>23111473
>,
Lol.

[Anonymous No.23111515]

>>23110767
Here's three examples. There's various others, assuming you mean tax policy as a shorthand rather than literally. There is stuff that's also literally about tax policy.

>>/lit/thread/20829325#p20829412

>>/lit/thread/20614797#p2061668

>>/lit/thread/17283669#p17284771

[Anonymous No.23111671]

>>>/vg/466995676
>>>/vg/466995676

[Anonymous No.23111886]

well, I finished it
and I'm not sure how to feel, like damn this was bleak
good on Valas for being smart enough to get the fuck out of Menzo and as far away from Quenthel as possible
if only Pharaun and Jeggred were wise enough to stay away from those crazy bitches

[Anonymous No.23111950]

>>23111886
Holy shit, is that the real cover? 0.0

[Anonymous No.23112068]

>>23111886
Both Salvatore and Kemp quit writing for wotc because of drama and unfair deals, though Salvatore later came back. That happened a lot of the authors. Most of them didn't last long as all considering the low pay, strict rules, and authors not owning anything.

[Anonymous No.23112076]

>>23111886
How did you feel about each book being written by a different author? It's an odd series in that most of it was written at the same time without knowing what was happening in the other books.

[Anonymous No.23112117]

>>23111886
Is the spider queen hot?

[Anonymous No.23112237]

>>23110987
He should've hired an artist

[Anonymous No.23112256]

>>23112237
That's for damn sure. The cover sucks.

[Anonymous No.23112258]

>>23112237
>>23112256
It's still better than all modern tradpub covers.

[Anonymous No.23112271]

Cradle books have effective but minimalish covers. I started reading them because I thought they were written by the guy who made Sim City.

[Anonymous No.23112277]

These covers were not bad

[Anonymous No.23112281]

Found four first edition Wheel of Time books today for £1 each. Think I might splurge a little more and get the last three with the cool Whalen cover artwork to finish my collection

[Anonymous No.23112383]

>>23111037
Add 'A Fire Upon the Deep' by Vernor Vinge.

[Anonymous No.23112406]

>>23111355
>Wayne Barlowe's Inferno
I would buy it but last I checked its 400 fucking dollars, is there anywhere it can be pirated?

[Anonymous No.23112413]

How do you bros not just burn your life savings at used bookstores?

[Anonymous No.23112424]

>>23112413
By realizing modern authors are trash?

[Anonymous No.23112427]

>>23112424
You are a big, big, BIG fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.23112430]

>>23112427
Looks like I hit quite the nerve.

[Anonymous No.23112432]

>>23112430
You're just retarded.

[Anonymous No.23112446]

>>23112432
Seethe more consoomer.

[Anonymous No.23112456]

>>23112446
Used bookstores are the best place to get vintage sff, you absolute donkey idiot.

[Anonymous No.23112458]

>>23112413
I haven't bought a book since I graduated from college. Book publishers do NOT need money.

[Anonymous No.23112463]

>>23112458
>Book publishers do NOT need money
I'm not even the anon you're replying to, but what the fuck do you guys not understand about 'USED' bookstores?

[Anonymous No.23112478]

>>23112463
The book was purchased form a publisher. It's still monetizing them. Let dead tree media die.

[Anonymous No.23112493]

>>23112406
yeah google images

[Anonymous No.23112506]

>>23112463
We've been over this. The presence of a thriving secondary market increases the price people will be prepared to pay for new books, thus publishers are implicitly rewarded when you buy a book second-hand.

[Anonymous No.23112523]

>>23112413
Piracy exists

[Anonymous No.23112541]

>>23112456
Consoom.

[Anonymous No.23112542]

>>23108934
Being original is overrated. All I want is delivery. And deliver he did.

[Anonymous No.23112544]

>>23112406
https://annas-archive.org/md5/b9ff41ebca93d76a60279a63fdec9119

[Anonymous No.23112546]

>>23112424
Reading comprehension.
>>23112413
Library card.

[Anonymous No.23112563]

Bakker news?

[Anonymous No.23112564]

>>23112478
No, fuck you. If I see a book I've been dying to find for under five bucks, either I'm buying it or saving it for the next pay check.

[Anonymous No.23112576]

>thread trannies are arguing again

[Anonymous No.23112582]

>>23112544
isn't this like a highly truncated version? There's only 26 pages here when there should be 72.

[Anonymous No.23112585]

How is it possible that 4 years have gone by since Bakker's last blog update?

[Anonymous No.23112630]

>>23112585
He's canadian. Probably too busy just trying to survive day to day.

[Anonymous No.23112647]

>>23104421
king's dark tidings by kel kad
OP MC
ez good read & on libgen

[Anonymous No.23112648]

>>23112585
>>23112630

I'm just smiling at the thought of GRRM staying silent for that long only to bluebell everyone with a wildcards update. I think because Bakker isn't in the public eye that much he's allowed to not have much of a celebrity presence

[Anonymous No.23112653]

Should I read Chapterhouse: Dune? I'll be honest I am a little bored of Heretics as we are no longer focused on the original group of characters. I'm not going to read anything that he didn't write himself so I'm wondering if I should just stop once I'm done with Heretics. I've heard Chapterhouse also ends with unfinished stuff since there was a 7th planned which turns me off as well.

[Anonymous No.23112654]

>>23112648
>Bakker
>Celebrity
Ay lmao.

[Anonymous No.23112750]

>>23112653
No. Move on.

[Anonymous No.23112773]

>>23110872
yes

[Anonymous No.23112873]

>>23112413
Because I only buy used hardcovers and trades that I want to read and/or are especially aesthetically pleasing to me.
Also, my my collecting hobby is only tangentially related to my reading hobby and I rarely ever pay more than ten dollars for a book, and spending more than five is exceptionally rare.

[Anonymous No.23112909]

I read the Children of Time trilogy and despite the ham fisted femdom element(dat nigga like gettin pegged), it was pretty fun. Any recs for similar books?

[Anonymous No.23112940]

>>23112563
there is no cure for insanity.

[Anonymous No.23112959]

>>23112383
Been meaning to read it for years, I'll have to finally take the plunge

[Anonymous No.23113087]

>However, I'm sure in this guy's case, if a girl who matched his tastes perfectly suddenly turned into Arthur pulling out Excalibur he would be fine with becoming Merlin.
>In a sexual meaning.
Why don't you guys like translated webnovel kino?

[Anonymous No.23113096]

>>23113087
I'll just read this instead.

[Anonymous No.23113115]

>>23113096
King Anguish and Sir Tristram bid their farewells and sailed to Ireland with great nobility and joy. When they arrived in Ireland, the king spread the news throughout the land about Sir Tristram's deeds and how he had helped the king. The queen and everyone in the court praised him highly, but the joy that Lady Isoud expressed for Sir Tristram was beyond words, as she loved him more than any earthly man.

One day, King Anguish asked Sir Tristram why he hadn't requested a favor, as whatever he asked would be granted without fail. Sir Tristram replied, "Now is the time; this is all I desire – that you give me Lady Isoud, your daughter, not for myself, but for my uncle King Mark, who will marry her, as I have promised him." The king expressed his preference for Sir Tristram to wed Lady Isoud himself, but Tristram insisted on keeping his promise to King Mark.

The king reluctantly agreed, and Sir Tristram said, "I pray you to keep your promise, to give me Lady Isoud to go with me to Cornwall, to be wedded to King Mark, my uncle." King Anguish allowed Sir Tristram to take Lady Isoud with him and decide her fate – whether to wed her himself or give her to King Mark, depending on his choice.

In summary, Lady Isoud prepared to go with Sir Tristram, accompanied by Dame Bragwayne as her chief gentlewoman and many others. The queen, Lady Isoud's mother, bestowed gifts upon her and Dame Bragwayne, her daughter's gentlewoman.

[Anonymous No.23113124]

>>23113096
it's surprising how readable this is

[Anonymous No.23113151]

>>23105494
The fags who whine about genre fiction are just loud, acting like they are the only people who should be posting in the thread.

[Anonymous No.23113162]

>>23113124
It's certainly one of the more readable ME texts, along with The Canterbury Tales and Julian of Norwich's stuff. Earlier ME is much tougher, resembling OE more than Early Modern English, and dialects just make it even harder. It's still a lot easier than straight up learning OE, though, so if you're willing to study it for a couple months, it's a great and relatively easy way to re-discover some forgotten classics in their original language.

[Anonymous No.23113239]

>>23113162
Hate tranny pronouns. Love me thorns. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.23113248]

>>23113115
It's Angus not Anguish dummy

[Anonymous No.23113288]

>>23112076
I didn't notice they didn't know as it seemed pretty coherent to me, it is noticable that that they were written by different authors but it didn't bother me as much as I first thought it would
The only book which stood out negatively to me was book II but only because Ryld seemed pretty distant, but that made sense in a way
>Also Ryld's name means slave
>Which is fitting considering his backstory

[Anonymous No.23113477]

make a new NOW

[Anonymous No.23113542]

>>23113538
>>23113538
>>23113538
New

[Anonymous No.23113544]

>>23113542
holly shit that timing.
heres the one i made. you just got in before me. i kneel.
>>23113539
>>23113539

[Anonymous No.23113600]

>>23113542
>>23113544
YOU NIGERS NEED TO LEARN TO WAIT UNTIL PAGE 10

[Anonymous No.23113642]

>>23104421
One of the Warhammer books focusing on characters like Kharn maybe?

Not really "overpowered" but many sword and sorcery short stories and novellas have a similar power fantasy aspect as most fantasy LN's do, the "Thud and Blunder" ones especially.

[Anonymous No.23113744]

>>23113542
>>23113544
newfags

[Anonymous No.23113770]

>>23112873
U are wise.
>>23112909
Would you say it's a good weird or a creepy weird? Is there actual pegging in it?

[Anonymous No.23113879]

>>23112909
>femdom
This is relevant to my interests

[Anonymous No.23113903]

>>23113770
>>23113879
Good weird, it's fun read, very heavy on the concept of sentience. No actual femdom and only brief mentions of sex, I was being facetious, it's very reddit tier "women are great, men suck" type of stuff