/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.23113538]

Sunday Edition.

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>Archive
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>Goodreads
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[Anonymous No.23113547]

I could not delete the other thread. But anyway, I've started reading Gormenghast - I'm hooked.

[Anonymous No.23113554]

Lookin for a review/beta read of my fantasy WIP

Part 1: https://write.as/xdb13enqk9lfo.md
Part 2: https://write.as/bjnjkpa9qyfu1.md
Part 3: https://write.as/7r2v2ec2pr326.md

[Anonymous No.23113669]

>>23113554
ya drama?

[Anonymous No.23113999]

Peerless. Unsurpassed. Unbent, unbroken.

[Anonymous No.23114002]

>>23112959
If you like space opera, it's a banger.

After 'A Fire Upon The Deep' and his short story 'True Names' he became one of my favorite authors.

Since then I've finished the 'Zones of Thought' series by him, read 'Rainbows End' and am currently reading his 'Collected Stories'.

It's like a breath of fresh air to read anything by him.

[Anonymous No.23114008]

>boohoo being a married woman with children is so bad, soul-sucking and awful
Umm nigger? Gods are comically weak and use literal souls as fuel. Really weird author moralism.

[Anonymous No.23114077]

Read Beyond Apollo

[Anonymous No.23114111]

>>23113538
No matter how well constructed the prose, or how fiendish the plot. I can and will never be able to respect an author who cannot even see their own cock when looking down.

[Anonymous No.23114149]

>>23114111
Checked and based

[Anonymous No.23114158]

>>23114002
I've read True Names, it's a banger

[Anonymous No.23114174]

>>23113554
Read the first chapter, fun stuff.
If you do a second draft I'd recommend slowing it down. Start with a scene rather than exposition, the protag and his sister leaving their gifts for John Henry perhaps.

[Anonymous No.23114218]

Post the
>last book you read
>book you are currently reading
>next book you plan to read

[Anonymous No.23114247]

What is the sexiest and raunchiest sci-fi or fantasy?

[Anonymous No.23114253]

just finished exordia, liked it a lot. really interesting premise, juicy language. was not expecting the middle 300 pages to be hard military sf. hope there's a sequel.

[Anonymous No.23114282]

>>23114218
>last
'We' by Yevgeny Zamyatin (review in previous threads)

>current
'The Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge' by Vernor Vinge.
Thoughts so far:

'Bookworm, Run!' is about a monkey who gets hooked up to the US governments entire file collection and can access it wirelessly by a neutrino connection. It's a prelude to Vinge's idea of the singularity, it's much easier to write about a super intelligent being that's hampered in some way, like for instance being a monkey who's intelligence is more Google search and less 'Limitless'. Pretty good.

'The Accomplice' is about computational advances and graphics, discusses deep fakes, computer generated graphics, animation etc and it's links to Hollywood or film production.

'The Ungoverned' is about an anarcho-capitalist or libertarian future for America where there is no governing body, if you want military defense you buy an insurance plan from a company. Very very cool and if you like any of those political ideas it's a good read.

>next
'The Black Company' by Glen Cook.

>>23114253
Can you convince me to read it?
It's a new purchase at my library but I'm wary of new books + have a lengthy backlog already.

[Anonymous No.23114288]

>>23114218
Maybe I could finish the entire series in under one year

[Anonymous No.23114303]

>>23114288
Is this shit... good?

[Anonymous No.23114311]

>>23114288
Based forgotten realms enjoyer
>>23114303
It's way better than the average modern fantasy epic.

[Anonymous No.23114365]

>>23114311
>It's way better than the average modern fantasy epic.
That isn't saying much, anon.

[Anonymous No.23114369]

>>23114365
You're very clever. Now suck my massively big dick.

[Anonymous No.23114375]

Rec me S&S kino that has pic related vibes.

[Anonymous No.23114398]

>>23114218
>last
Into the Narrowdark - Tad Williams

>current
Winter - Len Deighton

>next
The Killing God - Stephen Donaldson

[Anonymous No.23114411]

>>23114282
it's about an alien empire that uses afterlife-adjacent technology to narratively imprison the souls of its subjects to render them unable to rebel. they come to earth because an ancient artifact appears that seems related to the architects of the universe and starts modifying matter in bizarre ways. there's a lot of technical military jargon and a pretty compelling mathematical mystery to solve. it's very dense and complicated though. if this sounds interesting check it out and read the first 40 pages, you'll know if it's not for you.

[Anonymous No.23114434]

>>23114218
Just started Reverend Insanity. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.23114437]

>>23114218
>Last book(s)
The Dead Mountaineer's Inn by the Strugatsky Brothers;
Excession by Banks;
And the following licensed Doctor Who books: Deep Time, Big Bang Generation, Heart of Stone, Death Riders, Web in Space, The Blood Cell, Royal Blood, and The Crawling Terror.
>Current
Machine Vendetta by Reynolds. I'm about finished, within the last 20% of the book. I hope that this wraps up the Prefect/Panoply series. I'm real tired of "I'm going to write this trilogy" and then do it as slowly as possible interspersed between writing other books.
Plus the entire time I read any AI scene, I imagine any Culture Mind just casually taking a MASSIVE shit all over Aurora and the Clockmaker, at the same time.
>next
Maybe more Who or another weird mystery book.

[Anonymous No.23114462]

Seems there's another anon writing about books and posting threads for them. This was the first I've seen of it.
>>23113847

[Anonymous No.23114465]

>>23113547
The current deleting policy for posts and threads seems to be that they have to have been posted for at least 10 minutes before you can delete them. I'm not sure what the maximum time is now.

[Anonymous No.23114491]

>>23114218
>last
shadow and claw
>current
sword and citadel
>next
empire of the vampire or locke lamora

[Anonymous No.23114520]

some guy did a video on how the book of the new sun inspired dark soul without spoilers. Its a cool video if you never read the book (I haven't but now I'm going to)

[Anonymous No.23114569]

>>23114218
>Last
The Steel Remains by Richard Morgan, 5/6.
This is the book I was expecting when people would describe The First Law to me. Grimdark and violent without going too edgy.
>Current
Caine's Law by Matthew Stover.
Conclusion of the Acts of Caine series and easily the best entry so far in my opinion. I'm a sucker for stories told completely out of order. Everything feels like it's coming to a head in ways that I'm going to like.
>Next
Probably the sequel to The Steel Remains, but >>23114288 has got me hankering for a reread of War of the Spider Queen.

[Anonymous No.23114572]

>>23114303
depends, it is okay-ish going the range from barely tolerable to great with some flaws
>I mean when you're into D&D and interested in the lore it is worth the read
>or you can just read the wiki
Drizzt can come over as boring and way too goody-two-shoes and then the writing truly shows its age
>which is why after book 6 I needed a break from him and went for WotSQ
well, I am at book 7 in the Drizzt-series now, it can only go uphill from here and I 'kind of' enjoyed the first three books (which were written after the official first three books released and only released because people loved Drizzt) more than book 4-6
To be honest Book 2 was one snooze fest: I could have read the wikipedia article instead
also Salvatore is REALLY laying it on EXTRA THICC with his racism metaphor like
>dude, it isn't racism, he's from Menzo, they will LITERALLY sacrifice you to their evil spider queen
Salvatore himself is kind of weird about it too, on one hand being sad about the drow not being the bad guys anymore
and on the other hand ignoring Vhaeraun and Eilistraee (I have the feeling he doesn't like them)- technically he was the dude who started this entire 'there are good drow out there'-stick

[Anonymous No.23114834]

Bakker news?

[Anonymous No.23114921]

>>23114572
The racism gets sillier in the much later books when it was declared that D&D was far too racist in general. That's when they did the push that orcs are people too and not evil, so stop killing them so much and writing them so simply. Maybe even have humans ally with the more civilized orcs. It's quite something to read in the Drizzt books. So go orders from on high though.

[Anonymous No.23114930]

>>23114572
Also note that the Spider Queen series almost entirely has his name on them to sell more books. From what I remember, which isn't much, he didn't have much involvement other than editing them and trying to keep them coherent with other.

[Anonymous No.23114975]

Sometimes I genuinely wonder how much damage urban fantasy has done to our common understanding of mythology.

[Anonymous No.23114983]

Tired of fantasy writers not taking their worlds seriously.

[Anonymous No.23115010]

>>23114375
>Rec me S&S kino that has pic related vibes.
The Destroyer

[Anonymous No.23115096]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.23115101]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince

[Anonymous No.23115107]

>>23113669

Terminator with swords and horses

[Anonymous No.23115110]

>>23114921
didn't they backpedal on that, and then orcs were suddenly evil again?
writing for a franchise which is over 30 years old and had more retcons than cher had nose jobs must (have) be(en) a nightmare
>at least with Transformers you have like IDW TF and Prime and all the different canons
>but with Forgotten Realms, it is like the same universe rewritten several times over
>most obvious when it comes to Drizzt size and when they can't decide if elves should all just be around human size or slightly smaller and all drows are manlets/femlets, which either makes him a runt or tall for his race
>and Mystra died FOUR fucking times by now

[Anonymous No.23115183]

>>23115110
It's still not anywhere as bad as superhero comics with their unlimited retcons to the point where the very idea of continuity is an unknown concept.

[Anonymous No.23115197]

>>23114253
who the fuck wants to read a novel about a yu-gi-oh card

[Anonymous No.23115209]

>>23114375
>>23115010
What about some /ss/ SF-fantasy literature?

[Anonymous No.23115245]

>>23115209
Someone used to post Radix every thread

[Anonymous No.23115287]

i vaguely remember reading some book where the intro was the guy was like a peasant or something and killed the dragon and married the princess and the rest of the book was about how run the country, any recommendations on what it might have been called?

[Anonymous No.23115300]

What fantasy creature do you think would be the most fun to have sexy adventures in bed with?

[Anonymous No.23115328]

>>23114218
I recently finished this yesterday. Someone on /tg/ gave it a recommendation. I rather enjoyed it and think I'd like to check out more of the author. I haven't started anything else yet though I've been meaning to get around to the Dying Earth series for a whole so probably that.

[Anonymous No.23115382]

>>23114520
Not bad

[Anonymous No.23115390]

>>23115328
I hate that style of title, but the author is on my backlist as I've heard relatively good stuff about him.

[Anonymous No.23115409]

>>23115390
I guess he's got more books with less Glib titles too. If that matters. My copy of the book had an excerpt from his The Two of Swords, which I might also look into before going on to How to Rule and Empire and Get Away with it. I usually like to mix up authors.

[Anonymous No.23115556]

Currently reading some postapocslop that, so far, is like a combination of Road Warrior and Commando.

[Anonymous No.23115652]

So out of all the great science fiction and fantasy reads why did Starship Troopers and Lensman of all things receive anime adaptations? I wonder what other western books the Japanese audience likes. We know they like Howls Moving Castle, Harry Potter, and Elric was a pretty big influence on both Miura and Miyazaki

[Anonymous No.23115705]

>>23114437
I finished Machine Vendetta! There were quite a few plot contrivances but well whatever, it was a pleasant enough ending. Dreyfus gets away with it, presuming the soon-encroaching Melding Plague nukes the Rust Belt (formally known as the Glitter Band) while he's gone into deep space.

[Anonymous No.23115741]

>>23115652
Well I think Troopers probably really played well to Japan's general military samurai mindset. And Lensman pretty much influenced everything so why should they be different.

[Anonymous No.23116130]

>>23115287
anyone?

[Anonymous No.23116173]

What's the site from where we download the books called?

[Anonymous No.23116176]

>>23116173
hownew.ru

[Anonymous No.23116179]

>>23116173
Nice try, fed.

[Anonymous No.23116184]

>>23116173
The local library

[Anonymous No.23116187]

>>23116176
I don't come here often (/lit/)

[Anonymous No.23116197]

>>23115652
Would kill for a song of ice and fire anime

[Anonymous No.23116208]

>>23116197
There's a long list of literature I'd sooner see get the anime treatment before that.

[Anonymous No.23116211]

>>23116197
great post :DDD

[Anonymous No.23116216]

[Anonymous No.23116220]

>>23116216
based

[Anonymous No.23116222]

If you read the last fight against the zerg queen in the middle of a storm on top of an active volcano and didn't immediately think "this shit needs to be an anime" then I don't want even want your (you)s
>>23116208
It's an isekai so it's likely. Just need to figure out how japanese toy companies will benefit from producing it.

[Anonymous No.23116228]

>>23116222
I just think it would be great to see an adaptation that might not shy away from having a properly naked Deja thoris.

[Anonymous No.23116246]

>>23116228
>naked
LIES she has armored gold pasties and that is a hill I am willing to live on

[Anonymous No.23116251]

>>23116222
>Tavi Alwaysright
Belongs in a Sanderson book.

[Anonymous No.23116263]

>>23116251
he cute

[Anonymous No.23116275]

>>23116263

[Anonymous No.23116280]

>>23116263
Talk no Jutsu when you don't have the literary or charismatic or vernacular skills to pull it off, does not a good Main Character make.

[Anonymous No.23116289]

>>23116173
New releases - mobilism
Others - Anna's Archive

[Anonymous No.23116296]

I remember a while ago there was a thread about a fantasy/medieval book with a female protagonist, all I remember was a cover where she was barefoot, I believe it was also written by a woman but I can't remember clearly, does anyone know what book series I'm talking about? I forgot the name, she might have been a thief or an assassin as well but I'm not sure. Pic related is just an example

[Anonymous No.23116298]

>>23113999
Checked and true. For all the criticisms you can give of LOTR, bad poetry is not one of them.

[Anonymous No.23116299]

>>23116289
That's the one, thank you.

[Anonymous No.23116321]

Good Fantasy and sci-fi

>The Murderbot Diaries
>Melody of Mana
The Dragon Riders of Pern
>Warlock of The Magus World
>Ringworld
>Neuromancer
>12 Miles Below
>Berserk
>There Are Superheroes In This Story
>A Neets Guide To Becoming A God
>The Reality Dysfunction
>What We Do To Survive
>A Practical Guide To Sorcery
>Healer of Monsters
>Blame
>Tenebroum
>Sokaiseva
>I Am Not Chaotic Evil
>Violent Solutions


Good Lit-RPG

>The Nailmaker
>Cinnamon Bun
>Book of The Dead
>The Tutorial Is Too Hard
>The Reincarnation of Alysara
>Dawn of The Void
>Eight
>Hell Difficulty Tutorial
>Age of Stone
>Overgeared
>As Good as Dead
>The Warlord
>The Mana Influx
>Red Mage

Calm down it is not a definitive list (you) autist.

[Anonymous No.23116336]

>>23114247
>fat pink mast

[Anonymous No.23116348]

>>23116321
The main issue is that it doesn't need to be in every thread. Why not just put it somewhere where those interested can find it?

[Anonymous No.23116349]

I would like to (briefly) make a serious post about the Prince of Nothing and Bakker, if the thread would be so kind to take it seriously as well I would appreciate it.

So I've had the Darkness that Comes Before placed prominently on my shelf for awhile, bought exclusively for the purposes of antagonizing a /lit/ friend of mine who had reason to see my book collection, but only now did I think to grab it and move it from m shelf to my desk. I am an author by trade myself and usually keep 2-3 books by my desk so that when my mind is under assault from crude prose or shoddy idealization I can grab proper literature and anchor myself to how English ought to be. Why I chose Bakker for this is suspect but I have it placed next to "Eye of the World" and "The Shadow of the Torturer." In any case, one such mental assault came after I foolishly spent hours wading through a poorly written pornographic video game (ah, the things we do for the greatest of our vices), and I sought reprieve in The Prince of Nothing... only to be completely caught off guard by the opening 100-some pages, which I tore through with surprising vigor.

I think there is a propensity to attack and mock those who present original ideas -- or even unoriginal ideas with equivalent sincerity to ideas of one's own -- simply because to present a thesis opens oneself up to the attack of an antithesis. It's a tale as old as time - someone purports that after great thinking they believe X to be true, and almost on reflex a casual reader who finds themselves instinctively disagreeing will put a small amount of thought into how best to contradict this claim that is now before them. They will sneer at the obvious wrongness (for it is so obvious to them) and sneer that one would have thought to express themselves at all. This goes for both philosophical ideas (rationalism, moralism, universal grammar, etc) but also for aesthetic choices such as presented beauty standards, character flaws or the lack thereof, how distance from Tolkien the worldbuilding style is to be, etc.

It should have been inversely obvious from the amount of mockery Bakker gets that his work is filled with such bold and open presentation of ideas. In his words, I mixed up "what came before" with what came after - his work is filled with ideas, ergo he gets mocked, not he gets mocked ergo the work is filled with memes. I found myself immediately gripped and intrigued by the undercurrent of powerful philosophy flowing throughout the text. Kellhus's grasp of rationalism and cause and effect are easy to mock, but the strength of the Dûnyain philosophy is real and powerful. The text is littered with intriguing paragraphs that do not merely hint at ideas, but state them flat-out for the reader to ponder. There is no trickery or illusion to hide any semblance of ideas to avoid expected attacks from angry readers, a practice which continually produces the blandest texts imaginable. Bakker is in fact a joy to read.

[Anonymous No.23116470]

>>23116348
>put it somewhere where those interested can find it?
Like a thread discussing science fiction and fantasy literature on a Tibetan seafood exchange?

[Anonymous No.23116495]

>>23116470
NTA, and I don't intend to change your behavior since I'm not a regular here and I don't care how much you damage the thread quality, but here's how it goes:

1) Generals are mostly occupied by regulars
2) Ritualposts (posts made every thread) are seen by regulars over and over
3) Regulars don't like seeing the same shit over and over
4) They grow resentment for the ritualposters (as I presume you have experienced)
5) This resentment leads to them acting in opposition to the ritualposts
6) In conclusion, in this situation, they will actively not read the works you recommend because they associate it with your annoying behavior

If you want to shit up the thread that's totally fine, but if your goal is actually spreading knowledge of works you like and encouraging people to read them then your methods are not great. It's like an annoying friend that DMs you every day to play their favorite game or whatever. You end up wanting to do anything but that. Of course, the actual way to get people interested in reading the works is more effort (writing reviews, interesting posts, etc about them alongside perhaps an image of your list) so it's no surprise one would want to just spam a low-effort post, but yeah be aware of the consequences.

[Anonymous No.23116536]

>>23114411
It's now on my list at number 84.
>>23114569
How is Richard K Morgan's fantasy work? I loved 'Thin Air' by him and I'm compelled to read more by him.
>>23116349
I am always glad to hear good things about his work, because I want to read it eventually.

I've heard one other person disagree that his book is 'filled' with philosophy and described it more as 'sayings' or 'metaphors'. What do you think from your 100 pages?
>>23116495
This guy gets it. I will add it could be much worse, like the 'I just started 3 bodies' pasta anon who I even filter.

[Anonymous No.23116543]

>>23114218
>Last
House of Chains, liked it but thought it was overall weaker than DG/MoI

>Current
I'm like 2 chapters from finishing Fellowship of the Ring, interesting how Tolkien was so influential on the genre despite writing such a goddamn boring book, mines of moria and galadriel stuff has been alright though.

>Current
I'm itching to get back into Malazan, so I'm probably just jumping into Midnight Tides. Read the first two chapters as a teaser before starting Fellowship but probably going to just re-start

[Anonymous No.23116590]

>>23116536
>I've heard one other person disagree that his book is 'filled' with philosophy and described it more as 'sayings' or 'metaphors'.

I'm afraid I must answer with some semantic pedantry, but it depends on what one means by "philosophy." I don't mean to go too deep into theory here but there is no strict definition of philosophy and people use it to mean a lot of different things. For the sake of this discussion, I'll point to Wittgenstein who once said that "a serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes," and the fact that his Philosophical Investigations is a book containing exclusively aphorisms, no tautologies. In my opinion, the best definition of philosophy is the dogged pursuit of truth - continual thinking to find deeper and deeper answers. What defines philosophers is precisely that they *do not stop thinking* where other people would, and they keep tying to get closer to the truth, to answers. In this sense I do feel that Bakker has put an immense amount of thought into things and is sharing some of his "answers" with us. Critically, it does not matter whether those answers are "objectively true", because to declare something objectively true is to "stop thinking" - i.e. once you accept an answer, you're no longer pondering, you're no longer digging deeper, you're no longer doing philosophy. What does matter is that Bakker is thinking and sharing answers, finding new answers, etc which I would describe as philosophy - in these pages at least.

If you want to think about it as more formal philosophizing, like the type with mathematical proofs and carefully constructed reasoning, then it's not like that. It's not like there has been a 50 page speech establishing the Dûnyain argument from first principles. However, that kind of view of philosophy is pretty limited. If you look at the passage I posted, you'll note an interrogation forming between the difference of "what comes before" and "what comes after", the significance of cause/effect, how easily men lose themselves in focusing on the effect and therefore losing sight of the cause, etc. That's something which reflects pondering and encourages the reader to ponder. Especially the conclusion that "what came before was inhuman" - what did he mean by this? For now, it's left to the reader. I think to write that off as like a "saying" or "metaphor" is to show a stunning lack of thought.

[Anonymous No.23116607]

>>23113999
This always makes me emotional.

[Anonymous No.23116659]

Is there any fantasy about a cute witch doing witch stuff, that isn't either for kids or feminist/bored house schlock
I can handle feminist nonsense if its otherwise well written

[Anonymous No.23116664]

>>23116659
bored housewife*

[Anonymous No.23116718]

>>23116659
Little Witch Academia
Witch Hat Atelier
Flying Witch

[Anonymous No.23116727]

>>23116718
yeah I figured my options are manga/light novels, but something originally written in English rather than poorly translated by random dudes would be cool

[Anonymous No.23116763]

>>23116727
You could try asking on the royal road site or subreddit or wherever else that reads a lot of self-published stuff

[Anonymous No.23116797]

>Pedophile and hebephile reading guide
>Alice in Wonderland
What exactly does that guide mean, and what about Romeo & Juliet was pedo or hebephilic aside from a relationship with a small age gap? And does the "novels commonly mentioned by tryhards" list mean these are lame, or are these still interesting, because I liked a few books from there, and a few new finds intrigued. Additionally, I already considered reading Naked Lunch, but I'm curious to instead try Burrough's "The Soft Machine". I made book reviews on >>>/adv/30804619 that may clue you in to my tastes. I've read several starters.

[Anonymous No.23116830]

>>23116296
It sounds a lot like Sandersonion’s Mistborn series.

[Anonymous No.23116875]

Are "Lord of The World" and/or "We" worth reading if I already read 1984 and Brave New World and liked them quite a bit? How did your journey with these novels compare? Also, thoughts on pic-related for an easy-reading Science Fiction novel?

[Anonymous No.23117140]

Brian Stableford has died. A very prolific author he was.
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?556

[Anonymous No.23117151]

>>23114218
Heard about Elric from Witcher plagiarism allegations, while not convincing me completely, it gathered my attention.

What should I expect?

[Anonymous No.23117209]

>>23117151
>What should I expect?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C2K889u_90

[Anonymous No.23117465]

>>23114111
R

[Anonymous No.23117532]

>>23117465
E

[Anonymous No.23117611]

>>23114520
I really like how the vid is written. The fact that he made it spoiler free is commendable. A lot of people who do book reviews on YT just sit in front of the camera and talk to no end and usually spoil more than they should.

[Anonymous No.23117619]

>>23116830
That's the one thank you!

[Anonymous No.23117661]

What book(s) best showcase magical unit tactics on the battlefield?

[Anonymous No.23117669]

>>23116763
>Well written
Reddit will unapologetically recommend LGBT young adult shit

[Anonymous No.23117683]

I've been reading In Sekhmet's Shadow on Royal Road and it's pretty interesting gritty SF/F. Power armor heroine, robot goth waifu, superheroes without too much worldbuilding, good balance of character drama and plot and action.

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/70345/in-sekhmets-shadow

[Anonymous No.23117687]

>>23117683
>heroine
>waifu
Stopped reading there.

[Anonymous No.23117711]

The E in Robert E. Howard is Ervin.

[Anonymous No.23117738]

>>23114218
>Last
Dreamsnake by Vonda McIntyre
>Current
October by China Mieville
>Next
Don't know

[Anonymous No.23117747]

>>23116875
Lord of the World is OK but I much preferred Hadrian the Seventh by Frederick Rolfe. The latter isn't "dystopian" in the way that the first is, though

[Anonymous No.23117843]

I'm starting to get the impression that almost none of you have read Bakker. Was it memes from secondaries this entire time?

[Anonymous No.23117984]

>>23117843
Literally who?

[Anonymous No.23118009]

>>23114218
Eversion - Reynolds
Planet of Adventure - Vance
going to check out the Zang short stories that an anon recommended. one of the author's influences is apparently Darrell Schweitzer so I have hopes

[Anonymous No.23118016]

Best HG Wells novel? He wrote a boatload of crap I've never heard of after his initial half dozen stories that everyone knows.

[Anonymous No.23118032]

>>23117683
>heroine
>waifu
Picked up immediately

[Anonymous No.23118033]

I saw The Warrior Prophet for sale at my local library the other day. Truth shines!

[Anonymous No.23118036]

>>23117669
If you ask for a series about cute witches, don't go bitching when the recs turn out to be gay dykeshit.

[Anonymous No.23118042]

>>23116251
Pretty sure Butcher and Sando are buddies too

[Anonymous No.23118067]

>>23114218

>Last
Ringworld
Sailor on the Seas of Fate
>Current
Swan Song
>Next
The Weird of the White Wolf or possibly The Dark Forest or maybe There Are Doors

Maybe re-read The Eye of the World since I found some of the tail end WOT books fairly cheap recently. I want to give WOT another chance but I remember finding book one such a slog and it reminded me of the worst parts of Fellowship of Thr Ring heard it gets less Tolkien derivative layer on

[Anonymous No.23118121]

>>23114218
>last book you read
Apкaдий Cтpyгaцкий, Бopиc Cтpyгaцкий. Coбpaниe coчинeний в oдиннaдцaти тoмaх. Toм 1. 1955-1959
>book you are currently reading
Apкaдий Cтpyгaцкий, Бopиc Cтpyгaцкий. Coбpaниe coчинeний в oдиннaдцaти тoмaх. Toм 2. 1960-1962
>next book you plan to read
Apкaдий Cтpyгaцкий, Бopиc Cтpyгaцкий. Coбpaниe coчинeний в oдиннaдцaти тoмaх. Toм 3. 1961-1963

Rereading everything ever written by brothers Strugatsky, in publication order. Used to read them a lot as a teenager, wondering how they hold up now that I'm 35. So far it's fun, but mostly for historical/sentimental reasons.

[Anonymous No.23118214]

>>23117843
Does salting cause the sorcerer's soul to achieve Oblivion? I'm thinking more and more this is the case. Maybe this is why Ajokli couldn't find Kellhus' soul in the outside. I personally think the Decapitants are a red herring and Kellhus is indeed dead.

[Anonymous No.23118909]

[Anonymous No.23119079]

Has anyone here seen or head of the whereabouts of this man?

[Anonymous No.23119088]

finished this earlier, what did i think of i t

[Anonymous No.23119093]

>>23113547
>>23114077
>>23114375
>>23114434
>>23114834
>>23115096
>>23115101
>>23116173
>>23116222
>>23116321
>>23117843
>>23118033
>>23118909
>>23119079
Great post anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma?? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

[Anonymous No.23119107]

is brandon sanderson reddit? trying to get into fantasy/sci fi and was thinking of picking up the way of kings

[Anonymous No.23119109]

>>23118036
If the japs can make cute witch series for guys then the West can too

[Anonymous No.23119141]

>>23119107
He is the most reddit of all authors yes. He's a fantasy author who couldn't stomach asoiaf because Martin was being too mean to Danny
>>23118214
That'd be quite a twist, at least Akka could salt himself to avoid an eternity of torment

[Anonymous No.23119149]

>>23114398
I enjoyed Into the Narrowdark a lot. Too much build up, true, but the things that were being set in motion were really interesting imo

[Anonymous No.23119192]

>>23119109
And most of those cute witch series for guys is gay dykeshit.

[Anonymous No.23119194]

>>23119149
Really annoying that the 4th book has been finished since before Narrrowdark was published but I still have to wait 9 months to read it...

[Anonymous No.23119225]

>>23117843
Why do you say that? Bakker among the best I've read in the category.

[Anonymous No.23119240]

>>23117532
>>23117465

[Anonymous No.23119294]

>>23119149
I like his usual slow build up, but this felt a bit imbalanced. The last few hundred pages really crammed in a lot of progression that I would have preferred to have had a bit more time to breathe - particularly the action around the Hayholt from the time Simon left with the army through to the end.

[Anonymous No.23119406]

Let's be honest It should have ended here

[Anonymous No.23119423]

>>23119406
Yeah honestly I lost interest at Heretics. God-Emperor was great but I really don't like the "just trust me bro, the books get good and Leto was right the whole time!!!" thing.

[Anonymous No.23119431]

>>23119406
Bakker surpassed him. I like Herbert, but his mind was all over the place.

[Anonymous No.23119443]

Whats a good low stakes sci-fi/fantasy novel? I've read too many books about saving the world.

[Anonymous No.23119547]

>>23116875
Enders: Its short. But its interesting.
Its a very good take on speculative fiction.

[Anonymous No.23119591]

>>23119192
You're just uncultured

[Anonymous No.23119603]

>>23119443
Dunk and Egg stories are peak 6/10 low stakes. Should be on the cover of 6 magazine

[Anonymous No.23119616]

Bussin or cap?

[Anonymous No.23119671]

>>23119616
cap

[Anonymous No.23119690]

>>23119671
I don't believe you.

[Anonymous No.23119704]

>>23119690
The people in charge of Dark Sun hated it. That's why every work produced for it fundamentally tries to tear down the setting.
>A bleak world of death and slavery hehe let's make it happy and full of life and no slaves anymore

[Anonymous No.23119719]

>>23119616
Mid
First book about the gang getting together to take down the king is fine
Second book about the warriors leading their army was a slog with a few cool ass moments
Third book about the sorceress was pretty damn fun, best of the three.
I haven't read 4 and 5 yet.
The problem really is that everything about the books is awesome in theory but the writing is just so clodding and dull.
Reading these really made me appreciate RA Salvatore.

[Anonymous No.23119726]

Fundamentally Dark Sun should be like a xianxia setting. The characters are the Sorcerer Kings committing atrocities in order to fuel magic rituals to become even more powerful and become immortal. If you want to introduce morality play it should be as a cycle of violence thing, the usurpers overcoming evil only to become worse tyrants.

[Anonymous No.23119752]

>>23119704
Are any of the Dark Sun novels decent then?

[Anonymous No.23119757]

>>23119719
>Reading these really made me appreciate RA Salvatore
>Salvatore
That sounds like a massive red flag

[Anonymous No.23119789]

>>23117532
>>23119240
S

[Anonymous No.23119794]

>>23119757
He may not be a great writer but the dude understands pacing and likable characters. Comparing him to the Prism Trilogy is like comparing Batman TAS to GoBots.
They might both be Saturday morning cartoons, neither compares to Sopranos or shit, but one is satisfying and the other isn't.
>>23119726
This is actually part of the Pentad books, but again it's cool in theory the execution is just dull

[Anonymous No.23119797]

>>23115110
Not only have Wizards of the Coast reversed course on evil races multiple times, but in some cases the exact same guy who ordered the previous course change will try to claim social justice points for reversing it again years later, acting like it was some ancient policy he inherited from Gygax or Greenwood and is just now fixing.

[Anonymous No.23119818]

>>23119797
Mearls was actually their best game designer and they axed him. Sad!

[Anonymous No.23119862]

40k slop > d&d slop

[Anonymous No.23120133]

>>23114247
Probably something like Stars in My Pocket like Grains of Sand, or Dahlgren, both by Samuel R. Delaney.

[Anonymous No.23120142]

>>23114218
>The Chrysalids
>War of the Worlds
>either The Invisible Man, or Plan for Chaos

[Anonymous No.23120202]

>>23115010
NTA but it seems I can only find this book in audio version
any other suggestions for
>>23114375

[Anonymous No.23120321]

>>23120202
https://annas-archive.org/search?q=destroyer+earle

[Anonymous No.23120423]

I just finished the book I was reading.
What did I think of it?

[Anonymous No.23120452]

Give me your best dark fantasy recs people

[Anonymous No.23120465]

>>23119789
P

[Anonymous No.23120557]

>>23119294
I agree. My thinking was that Williams did that so that the next book would focus on dealing with all the issues set forth. Still enjoyed it, though

>>23119194
Same. But it turns out Tad was dealing with some publisher issues and I'm pretty sure his dad died, too. So not all of it is entirely his fault

[Anonymous No.23120563]

>>23120452
Karl Edward Wagner's Kane

[Anonymous No.23120569]

>>23120563
>Karl Edward Wagner's Kane

[Anonymous No.23120639]

>>23117843
why does bakker’s prose go from YA to hilariously kino to tense-swap city back tl YA only to repeat from page to page?

[Anonymous No.23120723]

>>23115096
Van couch for Hyperion

[Anonymous No.23120728]

We can all agree that Chris Wraight is the best 40k author

[Anonymous No.23120729]

>>23120569
>yfw Wagner hated the term 'Sword & Sorcery' and preferred to call it 'Dark Fantasy'

[Anonymous No.23120739]

>>23119107
Yes
However, Way of Kings is okay, if you're looking for popcorn fantasy

[Anonymous No.23120788]

>>23119107
He's the reigning king of fantasy

[Anonymous No.23120882]

>>23120788
More like the reigning queen of fartasy.

[Anonymous No.23121000]

>>23120729

[Anonymous No.23121013]

>>23113538
Just finished reading the Black Company and damn was it a good book! I finished it in just 4 days. My understanding is that it's part of a series, right? Are the rest of the books worth reading?

[Anonymous No.23121108]

>>23121013
>I finished it in just 4 days.
And this is fast for you?

[Anonymous No.23121118]

>>23121108
Is my big huge massive large cock in your mouth too BIIIIG for you?

[Anonymous No.23121129]

>>23114218
>Empire of Silence
>Neuromancer
>most probably Hothouse or get my toes wet on some litrpg slop

[Anonymous No.23121180]

>>23121118
Ah newfrens.

[Anonymous No.23121205]

>>23114218

[Anonymous No.23121210]

>>23121013
>Are the rest of the books worth reading?
All other BC books are of lesser quality than the first. If you can accept that then sure they're worth reading; at least the first trilogy.

[Anonymous No.23121349]

Is this the future of self-publishing? Are sites such as Royal Road doomed? Ever more becomes science fact than fiction.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/02/26/inkitt-ai-publishing-37-million/

Inkitt lets people self-publish stories, and then, using AI and data science, it selects what it believes are the most compelling

33 million users and dozens of bestsellers

AI to write stories based on your original ideas, and to produce versions of its fiction personalized for specific readers

focusing on more innovative ways of delivering books, building out chapters that are shorter and easier to read on mobile devices and incorporating a number of effects (such as sounds) throughout the text to make the reading experience more dynamic.

making the books more fitting to readers’ tastes. It runs A/B tests around every aspect of the work from titles and story arc, to first lines and cliffhangers

claiming that its algorithms give it a “20x” higher success rate than traditional publishers for publishing a best-selling book.

[Anonymous No.23121370]

>>23121349
Fuck off, shill.

[Anonymous No.23121387]

Thoughts on The Night Land by Hodgson?

[Anonymous No.23121390]

Recommend me a book that has bug creatures (preferably one wherein the main character befriends one).

[Anonymous No.23121409]

>>23120465
E

[Anonymous No.23121416]

>>23121390
a deepness in the sky by vernor vinge

[Anonymous No.23121431]

>>23121349
AI novels WILL be the future, and with breaks turned off WILL create better slop than 99% of published modern fiction.

[Anonymous No.23121556]

>>23121349
quintessential slop

[Anonymous No.23121635]

>>23120452
Brian Mcnaughton, Throne of Bones.

[Anonymous No.23121638]

The first few pages of this are unreadable dogshit. Who the hell recommended this garbage?

[Anonymous No.23121650]

>>23121638
So did it pick up after the first few pages, or are you judging the entire work by it's first few pages and dropped it?

[Anonymous No.23121659]

>>23115705
>Rust Belt
Jesus Christ is he still going on about it?

Nobody fucking cares about the fucking Yellowstone, the fucking melding plague, the fucking Ferrisville or the fucking Chasm City and all the trash that goes on in this trash heap. Fuck Yellowstone, fuck the Conjoiners, fuck the Pattern Jugglers, fuck the Ultras, fuck Sky's Edge, fuck le bele ebob, fuck worms and fuck Alastair Reynolds the hyperpig tranny nigger who can't wrap up a single plot but keeps starting some 15 new ones in every book going back, sideways and circular in his hay lame fucking empty glue canister of a """"""setting""""".

Fucking bong nigger the first book is the only good one and then only like a half of it.

[Anonymous No.23121695]

>want to get into phillip k dick
>his synopses and blurbs and praise all sound genuinely too high iq for me
;-;

[Anonymous No.23121704]

>>23121650
Don't start a sentence with "so". Also, of course I'm judging it by the first few pages. Even if somehow the rest of the book is good (practically impossible), to frontload all of the shit stuff shows incredibly poor judgement on the part of the author/editor team. Assuming there even was an editor.
I reserve the right to judge a book by any amount of information, no matter how meagre. For instance, I'm perfectly happy saying that "Fallout: Equestria" is irredeemable dogshit, despite never having read a single word.

[Anonymous No.23121721]

>>23121409

[Anonymous No.23121724]

>>23121409
C

[Anonymous No.23121844]

Besides The Time Machine and War of the Worlds, what other Wells should I read?

[Anonymous No.23121908]

>>23121390
Embassytown by Mieville

DNANR2

[Anonymous No.23121912]

Anymore books like Primeval Night?

[Anonymous No.23122007]

>>23121108
I have a job and a family. My reading time per day is typically very short.

[Anonymous No.23122012]

>>23121390
Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir

[Anonymous No.23122195]

>>23121659
The entire "Prefect Emergencies" series is about Panoply, the 'police force' that services and protects the Glitter Band. I believe it's something like 1000 Panoply 'employees' watching over 10k habitats. This series takes place before the Melding Plague, during the 'height' of technology.

[Anonymous No.23122494]

>>23121349
No, 1) they have no idea what readers even want 2) people are already trying ai shit on places like royal road and it's so obvious and bad even compared to the stuff that gets put up there by esl 15 year olds.

[Anonymous No.23122497]

>>23116727
Light novels are usually well translated provided you aren't a freak who gets upset when they don't translate japanese pop culture references word for word.

[Anonymous No.23122517]

>>23121844
His short stories are very good.

[Anonymous No.23122523]

>>23122497
How can you tell when the source material being translated is so bad?

[Anonymous No.23122535]

>house of leaves
I know it's a gimmick book but would you say it's readable on a kindle or does that kill the whole "experience"?

[Anonymous No.23122537]

>>23122535
it's readable but it's an inferior experience

[Anonymous No.23122539]

>>23122523
Not really any worse than modern western literature, desu.

[Anonymous No.23122561]

>>23113538
NEW THREAD IS UP
>>23122557
>>23122557

[Anonymous No.23122567]

>>23122561
For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.23122578]

>>23122567
newfaggotry as usual

[Anonymous No.23122581]

>>23122561
A thread died for this

[Anonymous No.23122585]

>>23121390
They preferred to be called Asians, you fucking racist.

[Anonymous No.23122592]

>>23122195
I understand, hence:
>fuck le bele ebob

[Anonymous No.23122611]

>>23122592
I don't know what you mean by "bele ebob" in your frustrated ramblings. I am more than willing to have a coherent civil discussion about RS with you but you cannot communicate in randomized characters, as if this were some sci-fi plot point that I need to solve and progress to extend the conversation and discourse.

How much of the overall RS canon have you read?

[Anonymous No.23122626]

>>23121390
Chrysalis, but it's litrpg on royalroad

[Anonymous No.23122752]

>>23121844
Malcolm what the Hell are you doing on 4chan? You're way too young to be here.

[Anonymous No.23122790]

Based.

[Anonymous No.23122921]

>>23122535
Reading on kindle is a better experience.

[Anonymous No.23122937]

I recently read Lord of a Shattered Land and it was OK but I didn’t like how the main character was such a pussy. Any good fantasy about a guy willing to kill his enemies?

[Anonymous No.23122944]

>>23122921
Reading on an e-reader isn’t actually reading, though. You need a real book for that.

[Anonymous No.23123044]

>>23122944
>Reading on an e-reader isn’t actually reading
What's the difference between letters displayed on a piece of paper and letters displayed on a e-ink screen?

[Anonymous No.23123073]

>>23121416
Seconded.
>>23121695
Just read his short story collections, his Valis shit is just druggy schizo rambling and is actually just about himself.
>>23122561
Kek

[Anonymous No.23123259]

>>23122937
>Any good fantasy about a guy willing to kill his enemies?

[Anonymous No.23123370]

>>23104614
I am really enjoying this, almost done with Book 3. Too bad it looks like Book 4 is behind a paywall
Any other HP fanfic recommendations? Already read For Love of Magic

[Anonymous No.23123449]

>>23123370
Blood Crest is light-years ahead of the competition

[Anonymous No.23123580]

The theme for March is tentatively translated books of non-English European languages again. The main issues being doing it again and that I don't like picking out more or less random books. I could go for easy picks like the various Soviet era ones for SF and newer Russian SF, but nah. I could also pick relatively popular speculative fiction, but most didn't seem like it was sufficiently SFF enough to be included in this specifically. I've already picked out 2 SF (Iceland, Czechia) and 2 Fantasy (both Germany) for the month, though I could still change my mind. I probably won't though.

[Anonymous No.23123593]

>>23123449
thanks, downloaded

[Anonymous No.23123625]

>>23123580
just do vita nostra man

[Anonymous No.23123659]

>>23123625
Already did last year/time.

[Anonymous No.23123663]

>>23122937
most xianxia

[Anonymous No.23123764]

>>23113538
Modern western fantasy 'writers' lack passion for fantasy.
They almost seem to have a contempt for it, something they share with Hollywood to no great surprise, as many of them wished to be part of the Hollywood circle above anything else.
they don't want to be fantasy writers,to want to be movie producers

[Anonymous No.23123778]

>>23123764
If you're gonna try and do this sort of posting you need to remember not to include an image of an absolute dogshit series alongside your post.

[Anonymous No.23123789]

>>23123778
Based.

[Anonymous No.23123821]

>>23121390
Perdido Street Station
A Matter for Men
>>23121695
Just dont start with Valis and you'll be fine. His writing style is dead simple.

[Anonymous No.23123855]

>>23123821
He'll be fine if he starts with VALIS
-fag who started with VALIS and read more Dick than anybody else ITT

[Anonymous No.23123881]

>>23121390
Reverend Insanity.

[Anonymous No.23124131]

>>23121724
T

[Anonymous No.23124147]

What was the point of shelving Daenerys in some shithole slaver city for three books where she's surrounded by unlikeable dog-eating plot-irrelevant human scum while trying to suck some mercenary's dick?

[Anonymous No.23124151]

Rec me a book with an insane and overpowered scientist or wizard as the antihero, please.

[Anonymous No.23124152]

Why was Frank Herbert so obsessed with breeding?

[Anonymous No.23124167]

>>23124147
GRRM is a "discovery writer" or "gardener" aka there's no point to anything

[Anonymous No.23124177]

>>23124147
I don't remember danny fucking other men besides drogo, was she a slut?

[Anonymous No.23124188]

>>23124177
>fucks drogo, canonically in every position possible
>gets fucked by one of her maids
>jorah sees her tits
>sucks and fucks a mercenary including on the morning of her second wedding
>marries some ghiscari faggot, causing immense seething from jorah and quentyn

[Anonymous No.23124223]

>>23122752
???

[Anonymous No.23124423]

>>23123764
>>23123778
>isekai slop has better covers than most western books nowadays
How did we get to this point? It's honestly depressing.

[Anonymous No.23124432]

>Mage Errant got a short story collection release
Judging by how I believe I'm the only one who bothered to read the full series, and I don't care much about this, I doubt anybody else cares.

[Anonymous No.23124715]

>>23124432
>I doubt anybody else cares.
Correct.

[Anonymous No.23124970]

>>23124432
Most people are heterosexual, yes.

[Anonymous No.23125232]

How in the Hells do I get in touch with Bakker, Gods damn it?
I have a business proposition that could make both of us some money. And it might revitalize interest in his books.

[Anonymous No.23125274]

I've been reading a two in copy of "At the Earth's Core" and "Pellucidar" and I like it but the copy I got has what has got to be the smallest print I think I've ever seen. The two stories are barely 200 pages together but it's taking me forever to get through because the small font.

[Anonymous No.23125285]

>>23125274
You're not reading the Bison edition? Those are the best ones in print.

[Anonymous No.23125294]

>>23122611
>I don't know what you mean by "bele ebob"
The "Belle Epoque".

>How much of the overall RS canon have you read?
I dropped it about half way through the Absolution Gap.

[Anonymous No.23125303]

Is littlefingers family being from foreign stock an allegory for him basically being a shylock jew?

[Anonymous No.23125366]

>>23125303
oy vey just because he's trying to subvert westeros with degeneracy and his family is from the city with banks is no reason for antisemitism

[Anonymous No.23125389]

>>23125285
Nah, I borrowed this copy from a friend. I may have to look up that Bison version though. This is borderline unreadable.

[Anonymous No.23125402]

>>23125389
Specifically it's Bison Books, an imprint of the University of Nebraska Press. It's got a good catalog of classic sff with extra stuff. This is what's in At the Earth's Core:
>This commemorative edition features an introduction by Gregory A. Benford and an afterword on the science of At the Earth’s Core by Phillip R. Burger. Also included are a map of Pellucidar, a glossary of terms and names by Scott Tracy Griffin, a contemporary review, and the classic J. Allen St. John illustrations.

[Anonymous No.23125420]

Blindsight is my favorite book of all time, but this mother fucker needs to stop blogging about bad orange man and write a new fucking book it's been like ten years god dammit

[Anonymous No.23125425]

>>the more wonderful the means of communication, the more trivial, tawdry or depressing its contents seemed to be
wtf how did he predict Twitter and tiktok

[Anonymous No.23125436]

>>23125402
Sounds nice. I'll check it out. Thanks for the info.

[Anonymous No.23125437]

>>23125425
>Twitter and tiktok
>wonderful means of communication
neither of those is any good for communicating anything of substance, zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.23125473]

>>23125366
>oy vey just because he's trying to subvert westeros with degeneracy
Unironically what degenerate acts does Littlefinger perform?
>fights personal duels for honor
Based
>neutralizes a northerner snownigger barbarian before he gains hold over capital
Based
>kills an simping unfaithful slut
Based
>kills a treacherous degenerate alcoholic
Based
>takes charge of a snownigger cunny
Based

[Anonymous No.23125477]

>>23125420
>and write a new fucking book
He wrote a new fucking book, but somehow it did not top Blindsight as your favorite. Yet you want him to write further.

Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.23125486]

>>23125477
He wrote that one novella that's it. He hasn't written an actual novel since echopraxia

[Anonymous No.23125490]

>>23125437
Do Americans really?
Wonderful that context means advanced

[Anonymous No.23125552]

>>23125486
>He hasn't written an actual novel since echopraxia
>since echopraxia
>echopraxia
[THINKING INTENSIFIES]

[Anonymous No.23125555]

>>23125490
They are not advanced either - they are specifically designed to be cesspits.

[Anonymous No.23125556]

nigga wtf is that premise

[Anonymous No.23125562]

I have an idea for a fantasy novel: what if le evil dark lord has returned after being defeated millennia ago, but instead of being evil, he’s turned a new leaf and is searching for redemption?

[Anonymous No.23125578]

>>23125556
Rendezvous with Rama for the LOL WACKY generation

[Anonymous No.23125584]

>>23125556
>vampire
>her
Stopped reading there. Another coomer garbage

[Anonymous No.23125591]

>>23125556
This whole drivel is one sentence.

[Anonymous No.23125596]

>>23125556
>>23125591

[Anonymous No.23125599]

>>23125591
Even a comma or two might have helped.

[Anonymous No.23125636]

>westeros
>easteros

[Anonymous No.23125668]

>>23125556
The premise makes it sound so dumb, but it doesn't even seem ridiculous in the book. I'm one of the few that actually loved Echopraxia, and it was mainly because of how human the protagonist seemed, and that one of the main characters is the father of the protagonist from the first novel.

[Anonymous No.23125676]

>>23123778
>>23124423
it's less about your subjective opinion on the quality of the writing and more about the passion poured into the work.
Fantasy for its own sake, aimed at its proper audience.
No attempt to dilute it or disfigure it to appeal to a supposed, higher standard of entertainment.

[Anonymous No.23125689]

>>23125668
>The premise makes it sound so dumb, but it doesn't even seem ridiculous in the book.
Nah, it is. What was Valerie even fucking doing on the Crown of Thorns? Why is Lianna (no clarification required, literally why is she)? Why Moore, for that matter? What was the bicamerals 200 billion IQ plan for any outcome of the first contact with Portia whatsoever? Why even go for it? And the prose didn't exactly improve.

The whole book is Watts coming up with bicamerals and Portia and then barely bothering to write a story, characters, or characters being involved in a story with them. It's just two ideas simpy lying there like it's a sidewalk.

>it was mainly because of how human the protagonist seemed, and that one of the main characters is the father of the protagonist from the first novel.
Bruks seems "so human" only in contrast with a typical Watts protagonist, beyond the Watts-bubble he's a very weak and flat protagonist even for a sci-fi story. Both that and Moore is just the book leeching on your admiration of Blindsight.

[Anonymous No.23125724]

>>23125676
>and more about the passion poured into the work.
>Fantasy for its own sake, aimed at its proper audience.
>No attempt to dilute it or disfigure it to appeal to a supposed, higher standard of entertainment.
Absolute bollocks.
To start with it isn't a passionate work, it's yet another reincarnated into a videogame story looking to cash in on that known audience.
Secondly Overlord is a story that scours the breadth of fantasy for races and hero tropes and them absolutely guts them to create a series of shallow characters who only exist to tell us how awesome the reader insert protagonist is.
Any established characteristics of the likes of devils, vampires and doppelgangers are thrown to the background to focus on creating characters who exist in the text purely to tell us how cool the protagonist is. Most of them behave in a way completely incongruent with the traditional depiction of their monster race.
It's a story that absolutely "dilutes" and "disfigures" fantasy and its honestly fascinating that you aren't able to see this because it does it serve a juvenile power fantasy instead of a subversion or whatever.
And desu even the worst and laziest example of subversive fantasy shows more respect to the genre than the likes of Overlord because they have to at least understand the genre a bit in order to make a subversion. Overlord's understanding of the genre consists of little more than going through a list of videogame enemy types and deciding which one of them is going to be today's choice to tell us how cool and powerful the protagonist is.
Also it isn't
>aimed at its proper audience
It's aimed at a stunted audience who read nothing outside of Isekai and power fantasies, it's a distinct audience that's separate from general fantasy readers. Even in the original language this is an audience distinct from general fantasy readers.
You've done the equivalent of calling a romance fantasy "aimed at its proper audience" here because you failed to recognize the subgenre for what it is.

[Anonymous No.23125752]

>>23125724
>about the passion poured into the work
>aimed at its proper audience
Anon he meant that isekaislop characters and authors form the internet parasocial circle for the audience of friendless desocialized obese basement dwellers.

[Anonymous No.23125758]

>>23125676
>>23125724
I tried reading Overlord and it was very cringe, I dropped it, but anime was pretty good despite few issues.
What I didn't like was inclusion of those two tranny elfs, I do not understand why japanese do this, either have tranny or gay characters.

[Anonymous No.23125761]

>>23125758
The anime was also shit. And those elves are their because Japan can't even think about not doing shit like that. Especially based on MMO culture.

[Anonymous No.23125774]

>>23125761
Do Japanese even play MMOs? Also is there trannyism and lgbt in MMOs? I have only played some shooters and starcraft back in the day so not familiar with MMO culture.

[Anonymous No.23125776]

>>23124147
Spinning wheels while the main story in westeros slowly develops. Really should have just gone with the time skip like he initially planned, even if it would have resulted in a lot of flashbacks or extra exposition.

[Anonymous No.23125788]

>>23125562

[Anonymous No.23125798]

>>23125788
Rapekino?

[Anonymous No.23125800]

>>23125774
>is there any trannyism and lgbt in MMOs?
Absolutely.
FFXIV is full of them

[Anonymous No.23125804]

>>23125788

[Anonymous No.23125805]

>>23125676
Imagine saying all this bulllshit about isekaislop, the most soulless, passionless kind of writing entirely there to pump out as many books purely for profit and nothing else.

[Anonymous No.23125809]

>>23125798
cringe trash

[Anonymous No.23125812]

>>23125805
>the most soulless, passionless kind of writing entirely there to pump out as many books purely for profit and nothing else.
So like the majority of modern (and not so modern) western science fiction and fantasy

[Anonymous No.23125830]

What in the fuck was that last third of 2001?
That was a fever dream

[Anonymous No.23125837]

>>23125774
Anon the whole userbase of MMOs is terminally online autists, which means a very large chunk is trannies

[Anonymous No.23125840]

>>23124147
Muh learning how to politics. Dany shouldn't have been a POV in the first place. She should have been this looming menace on the horizon.

[Anonymous No.23125844]

>>23125830
Bro?

[Anonymous No.23125848]

>>23125844
Spoilers abound
So these advanced aliens made entirely of cosmic thought or something developed a facsimile of Earth based on recordings from the monolith?
Not sure why they did that, but once Bowman sleeps he then turns into a Star Child and becomes the god of Earth
I didn't get it

[Anonymous No.23125849]

>>23125830
>What in the fuck was that last third of 2001?
Nah man that just terrurists

[Anonymous No.23125854]

>>23125840
This, just like we only find about Young Griff in book 5.
Also we could have had a few Dany charpters with key moments, maybe like one per book, it would have made them a novelty and intriguing instead of the slog they feel like.

[Anonymous No.23125859]

OK apparently I should read 2010 to find out wtf all that Star Child business was

[Anonymous No.23125886]

>>23124147
To get her the unsullied army, to break her political idealism, to have the Quentyn story, and whatever the ironborn are going to do there in Winds.

[Anonymous No.23125940]

>>23125886
>to have the Quentyn story
Which serves what purpose exactly?
Biggest waste of time ever, and Preston Jacobs is STILL coping about it

[Anonymous No.23126094]

>>23114218
>Last Books
Dark Crusade - Karl Edward Wagner
>Currently Reading
Bloodstorm - Dan Abnett
>Next book
Overlord v1

[Anonymous No.23126239]

>>23119406
Why did Hitler get a cameo in Messiah?

[Anonymous No.23126247]

Bakker news?

[Anonymous No.23126256]

Opinions on sex in fantasy / sci fi?

Honestly, I think it's just annoying, you're free to imply it, or reference to it, but actually describing it? I'm not here for the smut or the horny posting.
I don't know, it just pulls me out of the story. Especially with younger characters, it's just weird.
Like Dune Messiah, with Alia (15) "Her flesh desired a mate":
Irulan on a guild navigator (Fat deformed human in a gas tank) "She would wonder about his sex habits, thinking how odd it would be to mate with such a one"

[Anonymous No.23126268]

>>23126256
t.incel.

[Anonymous No.23126273]

>>23126256
99.9% of all sff authors are coomers. It's so sad.

[Anonymous No.23126277]

>>23126268
I think its the opposite, Im more like, asexual?

>>23126273
It's insane, I started annotating the dune series every time it got horny, I'll post it when I'm done.

Also I wanted to read Gene Wolhfe, but I heard he is also a big horny dog

[Anonymous No.23126293]

>>23126256
It's good and necessary for some stories, most authors just aren't good at writing it.

[Anonymous No.23126310]

>>23126256
Dude that was the norm until recently

[Anonymous No.23126331]

>>23126293
Yes, I'm not denying it from a story perspective. Yet don't you think it goes on for a bit too long? Or describes too much?

>>23126310
What is until recently? GRRM did it in 2011 as well with Dance of Dragons.

[Anonymous No.23126342]

>>23126256
Its just one example of an authors subtextual emotions colouring a story. Things like that are really common if you start looking for them. A good example is how authors write good and bad mouthpieces for what they want said. What they allow certain characters to say and act etc.

What you're describing is just authors who can't write sex well enough for it to produce any emotion you want while reading.

Sci fi is the Sanderson of fantastical fiction anyway. Too obsessed with a codifying and quantifying mindset over sublime experience - which is what all the best fantasy hits both in terms of story and writing.

There is love and sex in something like pic related. We would just never consider it so because it doesn't fit into the modern autistic mold of "he speared her hot mound and deeply drilled into her volcanic lowness" slop.

[Anonymous No.23126384]

Is pic related, a good way to foreshadow and hint at further plot elements?

[Anonymous No.23126447]

>>23126384
Yes

[Anonymous No.23126463]

>>23125420
>needs to stop blogging about bad orange man and write a new fucking book
many such cases. I hate these faggot crying cultists

[Anonymous No.23126716]

jfc the posts in that premature new thread are atrocious

[Anonymous No.23126806]

>>23126256
Honestly I jerk off mid reading even with a fade to black so I can't form an opinion on the matter

[Anonymous No.23126813]

>>23126463
BUT WHAT ABOUT MYANMAR ANON

[Anonymous No.23126999]

>>23126342
Funny you post Tristan and Isolde, I'm pretty sure those two never had sex.

[Anonymous No.23127061]

>>23126247
None.

[Anonymous No.23127338]

Books like blindsight?

[Anonymous No.23127689]

>>23127683
>>23127683
>>23127683
New!!!

[Anonymous No.23127819]

>>23113554
It starts out boring, you are writing it like a novel for teenagers. Where is the world building or something to hook you at the start?