/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.23122557]

Green Angel Tower edition

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Previous Thread: >>23113538

[Anonymous No.23122576]

FIRST for reading several decade old shlock that you find being sold for a dollar at the library book sale that you’ve never heard of and cannot find and references to online.

[Anonymous No.23122598]

>>23122576
Read Beyond Apollo

[Anonymous No.23122642]

>>23122576
Found this but not for fantasy

[Anonymous No.23122653]

Anyone ever read pic related? I liked Watership Down a lot so if some anon could recommend any comfy yet semi-serious fantasy in the same vein as that I'd appreciate it. I also read Tailchaser's Song, which was pretty good

[Anonymous No.23122671]

>>23122653
well the obvious is the stories of Robin Jarvis, starting with The Alchymist's Cat and The Dark Portal

[Anonymous No.23122725]

>read like oneor two fantasy erotica
>now all my Amazon recommended is fantasy porn
I don't know how many times one can write the same goblin/orc on female elf action, but if I see one more I'll swear I'll set my computer on fire
it is just as bad as all the isekai porn
I'm not even into that stuff, my tastes are way more refined than goblin/orc porn, I hate those ugly green skins

[Anonymous No.23122755]

Ringworld should be adapted by HBO

[Anonymous No.23122761]

>>23122755
It would be awful, please no.

[Anonymous No.23122795]

What if its good

[Anonymous No.23122801]

I read a few pages of Kaiju Preservation Society by John Scalzi and was disgusted at the fag lib Hollywood diversity right off the bat. Is it worth continuing or is my intuition about this book correct? If so, I need a book recommendation. Are all his books like this?

[Anonymous No.23122805]

>>23122576
Okay but I’d prefer if it’s progressive and inclusive.

[Anonymous No.23122810]

>>23122801
It's the prose that gets me. I'm whatever on diversishit, but that combined with the try-hard "quirky" dialogue and prose was an immediate turn off.

[Anonymous No.23122816]

>>23122761

>Sex scene between Lous and Teela nearly every episode
>Seeker would be black and so would a good chunk of the Ringworld native primitives
>Speaker To Animals making quips and jokes nearly every episode in a poorly done Joss Whedon/MCU style

What else? I can see people being triggered by the age difference between Louis and Teela if they made Louis a white male. I got a feelin they'll make him Chinese or Asian though

[Anonymous No.23122849]

>>23122816
I could've sworn he was asian in the book. The quips sounds terrible

[Anonymous No.23123038]

>it's a count Fenring chapter

[Anonymous No.23123450]

Name 3 fantasy books

[Anonymous No.23123473]

>>23122557
I hate how cool AI art can be.

[Anonymous No.23123485]

>>23122653
The Wind in the Willows is good.

[Anonymous No.23123491]

>>23122801
With Scalzi it is everything, not just diversity. He is a thorough Last Man.

[Anonymous No.23123517]

>>23122653
Redwall is pretty great. A hell of a lot more violent that you'd expect from a kids series at times.

[Anonymous No.23123937]

>>23123450
1. The Golden Compass
2. The Fellowship of the Ring
3. Titus Groan

[Anonymous No.23123954]

>>23122671
>>23123485
>>23123517
Thank you, my dudes.

[Anonymous No.23123972]

>>23123038
Is Dune worth it? I find no attraction whatsoever to that series but so many people claim it's a quintessential reading experience

[Anonymous No.23123985]

>>23123972
nah you’ll be fine without it

[Anonymous No.23123991]

>>23122557
Anyone ever read Winter of the World series? I'm reading book 1 right now and it's insanely comfy and just the right amount of dark without it being edgy. Gonna read through the series and share my thoughts on it but from what I've heard it's an insanely underrated trilogy

[Anonymous No.23123997]

Half way through the first Cradle book and I genuinely do not understand how people can read this chinkshit slop and think it's good in any way. Most of it is unreadable nonsense.

[Anonymous No.23124020]

>>23122801
>Are all his books like this?
Yes. He is reddit incarnate.

[Anonymous No.23124099]

>>23121724
T

[Anonymous No.23124422]

[Anonymous No.23124567]

>>23123997
Kek is that litrpg or what?

[Anonymous No.23124572]

>>23122801
Yes.

[Anonymous No.23124619]

>>23122795
get the Story Retold

[Anonymous No.23124698]

>>23123972
It’s interesting and worth your time, but narratively doesn’t have a payoff and Herbert has the most midwit take on religion you’ve ever heard

[Anonymous No.23124707]

Just read the Foundation trilogy, what do you lads think of it? I thought the narrative twists were interesting but the whole pro-centralisation, pro-technology, pro-imperialism shtick was hard to stomach honestly

[Anonymous No.23124731]

look guys

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1709094266624626.webm

[Anonymous No.23124812]

>>23122557
Am I overthinking how negative people would react to a character who has clones of herself that take the form of teenage girls who she calls her wives and has off-screen sexual relationships with (tantric divination rituals + cyberneticism) ?

I think people will fixate on the "omg pedophile" aspect of it instead of the intense spiritual and thematic context it's placed in.

[Anonymous No.23124887]

[Anonymous No.23124890]

[Anonymous No.23124896]

[Anonymous No.23125312]

>>23122801
It won the Locus Award
https://twitter.com/misterbloat/status/1672967411136442371

[Anonymous No.23125349]

Any fantasy books for this feel?

[Anonymous No.23125718]

What's something new I can write in an endless winter fantasy? Feels like everyone has done one with some sort of nod to Norse mythology heavily influencing them might just make mine more grounded and have different warring clans with a more survivalist angle maybe keeping the magic or mythological stuff ambiguous

[Anonymous No.23125739]

>>23125718
Yuki-Onna growing so powerful she puts the entire world on ice only favouring her own mongol-style warrior clan so they might rule the world?
and the entire book it is never made clear if the Yuki-Onna is an actual character empowering her warriors or they're just really devoted to their tribes goddess with the actual cause of the ice age being left open?

[Anonymous No.23125763]

>>23125739

Good idea but I think I would get called out for appropriation using Asian mythology when I'm a white guy

[Anonymous No.23125766]

>>23124698
>Herbert has the most midwit take on religion you’ve ever heard
Which is..?

[Anonymous No.23125768]

>>23125763
You sound like a faggot

[Anonymous No.23125780]

>>23125768
I prefer homosexual

[Anonymous No.23125796]

>>23125349
Saga of Tanya the Evil
Reborn to Master the Blade
Miss Savage Fang

[Anonymous No.23125820]

>>23125796
Jfc these are actually real.

[Anonymous No.23125831]

>>23125766
That it’s a series of social constructs and psyops

[Anonymous No.23126043]

>>23125763
Who cares? The more they seethe the more attention they give you, anyways

>>23124812
Do it, anyways. As long as that's the story you want to tell. Plus, it's offscreen so it's not like you're going into explicit detail of it like GRR Martin

[Anonymous No.23126058]

How important is starting out with a fight scene?

[Anonymous No.23126097]

>>23126058
Don't. I remember the Well of Ascension had a Marvel-tier action scene in the beginning and it made me immediately shut the book

[Anonymous No.23126153]

>>23126058
Start out with a gay sex

[Anonymous No.23126476]

Yup. Forgotten Realms is r*ddit.

[Anonymous No.23126508]

>>23123972
it's okay

[Anonymous No.23126514]

>>23124731
>save webm
>computer knows it goes into the cat folder
books for this feel?

[Anonymous No.23126545]

>>23126514
I am also interested

[Anonymous No.23126566]

>>23126514
>>23126545
>Lebensansichten des Katers Murr
>Daisy: the autobiography of a cat
>Pussy Meow
>warrior cats
just on top of my head
there are a lot of books with cats

[Anonymous No.23126602]

>>23122557
Did Howard ever reference Lovecraft's works in Conan books? Considering that they were friends and all of that.

[Anonymous No.23126638]

>>23126602
The Black Stone has a reference, they also collabed.

[Anonymous No.23126783]

>>23125724
I like Overlord. It's not a power fantasy, not unless you're literally mentally ill. He's an evil overlord necromancer who mass murders innocent people. It's fun in the same way Breaking Bad (which also has mass murder) is, with an evil protagonist, WW being an OP meth cook, Aang being an OP overlord, but they have a different type of drama. Overlord is about someone who loses his humanity because of his new form, his mind becomes his body because the mind is embodied not separate. I don't even like isekai besides Overlord (not even Mushoku Tensei). Obviously it's not Homer, but denying it's entertainment when you don't like it's genre is stupid in the first place.

[Anonymous No.23126794]

>>23126783
*Ainz

[Anonymous No.23126805]

>>23126783
Mushoku tensei was a total garbage.

[Anonymous No.23126834]

>>23126805
It's considered one of the best in the genre.

[Anonymous No.23126870]

>>23122557
Reading damn reincarnation rn. It’s the only modern series that can manage to feel like it’s in the style of a fantasy ttrpg campaign. It also manages to create a compelling mystery that keeps you working towards the solution. Only issue is the last 200 or so chapters are mtl rn so you only get the first 8 volumes with a decent translation

[Anonymous No.23126878]

>>23124707
I feel repelled by the very premise of it. It's so quintessentially mid-20th century in its arrogance.

[Anonymous No.23126889]

>>23126834
Isekai in general sucks because the japs don’t want to invest a lot of time into developing a story. Atleast Chinese cultivation schlock tends to treat the mc getting so powerful so quickly as a reason for stronger person to go kill them

[Anonymous No.23126919]

>>23126889
>Isekai in general sucks because the japs don’t want to invest a lot of time into developing a story.
I don't even see the point talking about it because most japanese fantasy comes in the form of manga. Manga at best is a plot outline and a script for anime (which in itself is an ad for manga magazines and merchandise). Manga artists are pretty good at drawing often their story telling skills are poor or non existent. It is a tragedy of (modern day) Japanese literature.

[Anonymous No.23126930]

>>23123764
Overlord actually has pretty great prose in Japanese (for an isekai LN). I was pleasantly surprised.

[Anonymous No.23126952]

>>23126930
It's technically shin ("new") bungei, not light bungei because its for people in their 20s.

[Anonymous No.23127087]

>>23126952
Is that so? I thought 新文芸 was just a catch-all term for published series which were originally posted online (web-novels).
>我々の定義する「新文芸」とは、UGCと呼ばれる、ネット上で発表された作品を書籍・電子書籍化して出版する小説の総称であり、これが従来の一般文芸とは明確に異なる点です。
Sure enough, ラノベ are separated from 新文芸 on Kadokawa, so I was wrong about it being a LN. I'm not sure it isn't ライト文芸, though, judging by this. Are you sure it's the demographic which precludes Overlord from being considered light-bungei, or is it something else? Because it looks like light-bungei actually is marketed towards people in their 20s-30s.
>対象となる年齢層は10代の少年が主人公となる作品の多いライトノベルに対し、ライト文芸は主な購買層と同じ20 - 30代以上(大学生や社会人)がメインキャラクターとなるものが主流である。
These terms are kind of confusing, honestly.

[Anonymous No.23127095]

>>23126952
>>23127087
Oh, nevermind. I think it just clicked.

[Anonymous No.23127199]

>>23125689
Valerie was there to control the zombie labor force and provide a different perspective in case the bicamerals missed anything. Moore was there as a personal favor from the bicamerals to him, since he requested to be there and had a lot of pull with the US government, so it always paid to keep him happy. Also he was the only person there who could maybe take Valerie in a fight; such a fight wasn't likely to actually happen but his presence would nevertheless force her to account for him in any betrayal scheme, which might hopefully slow such scheming down a bit. The plan wrt to Portia was find whatever was on Icarus and then improvise. They simply didn't have enough information going in to do otherwise. Even Valerie was winging it once they get aboard the station. Both the bicameral and Valerie accomplish their objectives, so the expedition was a success from their pov.

[Anonymous No.23127323]

>>23126602
Yes. Tons. Conan is literally Heroic Fantasy meets Lovecraftian Horror. Lovecraft was a big influence on Howard; even if they didn't like particularly like each other.

[Anonymous No.23127359]

>>23122557
Gravity's rainbow is hard :/ might just go back to star wars stendeduniberse

[Anonymous No.23128112]

>read Howard’s Conan works
>they’re action packed thrilling adventurers where might and cunning is tested against magic and horror.
>read his non-Conan works
>old-fashioned-ish prose that does not seem to keep as well as his Conan prose, yet the plots are absolutely insane, as in: Atlantean wizard conspires to overthrow “white supremacy” and replace it with an empire of blacks, asians, and arabs ruled by an Atlantean upper class.

Why is there such a huge difference between his non-Conan and Conan weird tales?

[Anonymous No.23128132]

>>23128112
> the plots are absolutely insane

[Anonymous No.23128248]

>>23123997
You got baited bro. Most everyone who recs it is being ironic, there are only a bare few dumb enough to actually like it.

[Anonymous No.23128262]

>>23128132
i don’t think the sons of shem are descendants of atlantis anon.

[Anonymous No.23128264]

>>23126058
> starting out with a fight scene?
If you thought for a second that would be a good beginning, you are a lost cause. You will never write anything above the level of litrpg pigslop

[Anonymous No.23128426]

>>23123997
It's cool.

[Anonymous No.23128436]

>>23126058
>>23128264
Agreed. You don't have to write 100 pages of setup (although comfy slice of life stuff can be really good, like MS&T) but desu, if I don't give a shit about your character yet why would I care if you're MC is cutting off random heads?

[Anonymous No.23128442]

>>23128112
>Atlantean wizard conspires to overthrow “white supremacy” and replace it with an empire of blacks, asians, and arabs ruled by an Atlantean upper class.
Are you memeing or is this 100% true? Kek

[Anonymous No.23128443]

>>23128436
Brando sando thought his first prologue was shit so he made his second prologue a big fight scene. Never could get into Way of Kings.

[Anonymous No.23128447]

>>23128442
Yeah, it’s literally the plot of Skull-face, which is Howard’s version of Sax Rohmee’s Fu Manchu, so instead of a supergenius chinaman, you get an ancient shriveled Atlantean wizard who would not be out of place in a King Kull story.

[Anonymous No.23128454]

>>23128447
>>23128442
On top of that, one of Howard’s protagonists literally uses “white supremacy” to describe the white man’s hegemony of the globe at that time.

[Anonymous No.23128470]

>>23128447
>>23128454
Greatest writer ever.

[Anonymous No.23128516]

>>23128443
Larry Correia also tends to start a series with a fight scene.

[Anonymous No.23128528]

>>23128516
Read his Servants of War if you haven't yet. It's pure kino. The setting is basically:
>What if WW1 took place on a fantasy world that had magic-powered mechs?

[Anonymous No.23128533]

>>23128528
Prove WW1 didn't take place in a fantasy setting.

[Anonymous No.23128542]

>>23128528
Should I read Som of the Black Sword?

[Anonymous No.23128545]

>>23128542
After you read Servants of War.

[Anonymous No.23128560]

Rec me some kino that has pic related vibes.

[Anonymous No.23128585]

>>23123991
Picked up Hammer of the Sun from a charity shop a few years because I recognised the cover art from that movie Wizards, but I haven't got around to it yet.

[Anonymous No.23128712]

>>23128560
I wish I had other recommendations.

[Anonymous No.23128743]

>>23128560
Bakker

[Anonymous No.23128754]

>>23128712
No.
>>23128743
No.

[Anonymous No.23128814]

favorite first contact novels?

[Anonymous No.23128845]

>>23128814
Blindsight by far, found 2nd book bland as fuck tho

[Anonymous No.23128887]

>>23128814
It's a comic book not a novel. My favorite is Resident Alien. The alien is the protagonist, and he pretends to be human but has a hard time, which is played for laughs.

[Anonymous No.23128893]

>>23128560
Lovecraft's The Rats in the Walls, Pickman's Model, The Dreams in the Witch House

[Anonymous No.23129095]

>gibson
>an american
>had the fucking gall to call any other country a conformist nightmare with no history
Gibson and his postmodernist ilk were a disaster for the human race

[Anonymous No.23129116]

>>23125831
where's the lie

[Anonymous No.23129163]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.23129165]

>>23129163
>8MB of hot RAM
>le punk
Yeah no
Gibson is a hack and I will kill him

[Anonymous No.23129169]

>>23128545
>Servants of War
How are Steve Diamonds books? He seems less spergy than Correia, but that doesn't always translate to being a good author.

[Anonymous No.23129173]

>>23129165
>he needs more than 8MB of ram

[Anonymous No.23129177]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince

[Anonymous No.23129180]

>>23126058
This only works with visual media

[Anonymous No.23129183]

>>23126878
Fair take desu, also very very jewish

[Anonymous No.23129185]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqU8EQ6G1i0

[Anonymous No.23129189]

>check the damon knight grand master list
>every grand master after 2016 is a a powerful BIPOC Womynx of colur
The world really did end huh

[Anonymous No.23129194]

>>23129189
What else are they supposed to do between kitchen duties?

[Anonymous No.23129200]

>>23129194
They could write something actually good
You just fucking know they only give that award to women now because of societal pressure instead of merit

[Anonymous No.23129226]

Is Under the Dome any good?

[Anonymous No.23129230]

>>23129226
No, it's one of the worst books ever written by him

[Anonymous No.23129288]

Should I go Silmarillion, Hobbit then LotR, or Hobbit, LotR then Silmarillion?
>inb4 how have you not read lotr by this point
s-shut up

[Anonymous No.23129304]

You know there's cosmic horror, are there books that could be deemed "cosmic beauty"?

[Anonymous No.23129656]

>>23124707
It has an interesting idea and that's its basically only strength. All the characters are just an afterthought who you immediately forget about after closing the book.

>pro-centralisation, pro-technology, pro-imperialism shtick
You do realize that this is a series of books about a technologically advanced, centralized empires that have collapsed twice?

[Anonymous No.23129759]

>>23128443
I can stomach the first three books to the point that I can enjoy reading them, but the schizo bitch and the entirety of book 4 is unreadable garbage. He needs an editor that will call him out so fucking badly

[Anonymous No.23129807]

>>23129288
Well, do you like world-building, bed time stories or epics?
(Silmarillion, Hobbit, Lord of the Rings)

[Anonymous No.23129846]

>>23128814
The Killing Star
not as complicated as Blindsight, but mostly good

[Anonymous No.23129893]

Reading 3 body, and Wang's a fucking loser, huh.
>sad he couldn't connect with a girl he thought was hot as fuck
>later shown she had a bf
>later shown Wang has a literal family with wife and kid
Worst MC so far.

[Anonymous No.23129899]

>>23129759
That's Rhythm of War, right? Is it really that bad? I've seen an excerpt of that book posted on lit a few times and it's weird as hell. What makes that book so different from the first 3?

[Anonymous No.23129904]

>>23129288
Hobbit, LOTR, then Silmarillion

[Anonymous No.23129906]

>>23128443
Yeah but Brando Sando basically writes marvel movies so that's expected

[Anonymous No.23129910]

>>23128585
So far the first book is pretty good. It's an interesting premise/setting I don't think I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.23129916]

[Anonymous No.23129948]

Anyone reading pic related yet?

[Anonymous No.23129954]

>>23129948
New release?

[Anonymous No.23129956]

>>23129954
Yes, out today.

[Anonymous No.23129961]

The other day, when browsing through wob.com I stumbled on a book called Courtship Rite (called Geta in Britain) by one Donald Kingsbury. I ordered it after searching for infos about it. What I found insinuated that it has a libertarian tendency (plus some odd plot lines and behavious).

[Anonymous No.23129968]

>>23129956
Havent read Kristoff, desu. Is he any good?

[Anonymous No.23129974]

>>23129968
Don't know about his other books but the first book Empire of the vampire is kino. This is the second book in the series Empire of the damned.

[Anonymous No.23129978]

>>23129974
Oh my goodness...

[Anonymous No.23129982]

>>23129978
Seething roasties :3

[Anonymous No.23129983]

>>23129978
>misogyny
Just bought all of Kristoff's catalog

[Anonymous No.23130003]

>>23129978
Meanwhile on her instagram
>Listen in as we question why the sex scenes weren’t more imaginative
>Plus, Bella learns what “knotting” is!

[Anonymous No.23130019]

It's tragic that so few in yankeeland know about Peter F. Hamilton. Give the man's works a try. I promise it will be worth your time (he can't write small books).

[Anonymous No.23130028]

>>23130019
>Ulysses
DROPPED

[Anonymous No.23130033]

>>23122557
Just finished Roadside Picnic, I expected a masterpiece but I got a 6/10 book. Would make a cool short story but there was no need to make it a full novel

[Anonymous No.23130034]

is Dune a good read? Movie part 2 is out and what people are discussing seems pretty interesting.

[Anonymous No.23130037]

>>23129978
>cons: misogyny
picked up

[Anonymous No.23130040]

>>23124567
>litrpg
worse, Wuxia

[Anonymous No.23130052]

>>23130034
It's a hard read because author can't get to the point and makes everything a slog.

[Anonymous No.23130063]

>>23126889
Japanese issekai usually goes
>you're level 1, okay now you're level 99 because of a cheat skill that destroys the entire premise of the story, and now you have five wives and what was the point of this again
and Chinese Cultivation goes
>you died to a greater threat so now you're back at level 1 because you had time magic/artifact, and now you're 99 again because of CULTIVATION speedrun but actually 99 is just a level cap so now you have to grind to 9999

Theyre both hot garbage but its what people want

[Anonymous No.23130074]

Help me out, /sffg/

I'm not really a fantasy reader; I mostly focus on horror, and I've heard that Boy In Darkness is a pretty good horror novel. Can I read this as a standalone book, or is it necessary/recommended to read the Gormenghast trilogy first?

[Anonymous No.23130078]

>>23128814
His Master's Voice

[Anonymous No.23130086]

>>23129899
Rhythm of war is beyond bloated, I could not tell you what happens in the first 3/4's of the novel anymore. Navani and Raboniel become main characters but literally all they do is talk about a lot of new pseudo science, like Sanderson learned a new thing and wants to explain it. Shallan is more terrible than usual imo but people can disagree with me.

But the last 1/4 is shonen kino and the only reason I'll keep reading

[Anonymous No.23130091]

>>23129978
lol the book is pozzed as fuck. Either she barely read it or she considers any violence against any female characters "misogyny."
Also:
>obsession with underage children
feels like some serious projecting. Yea the novel is woke as fuck and some sexual stuff happens with teens, but at no point did it feel like Kristoff was putting his fetishes in the book; even if he is a woke-tard.

[Anonymous No.23130096]

>>23124812

Here's one of the chapters (1/2). It's just a first draft. Context: Mavis left a reception of a powerful figure that she hopes will consolidate her cult of orphan girls with hers in the hopes to avoid a mysterious conglomerate-faith (megacorporation) that she believes will be the death of all the children in her care.

A few things like "Mavis's tower" will be changed, I just couldn't think of a name just then.

[Anonymous No.23130101]

>>23130096
2/2

[Anonymous No.23130103]

>>23129288
>>23129904
This. Keep them as faraway figures for the first two titles and later delve into their stories. It's more interesting and the styles are very different as well.

[Anonymous No.23130130]

>>23129899
Yes, it’s easily the worst book I’ve read in years. It has extreme character assasination for half the cast giving them all random textbook definition mental illnesses out of a grab bag. It’s also extremely heavily padded out. Only 1/4 of the book needs to exist. I literally can’t remember half the chapters because it’s the same points rehashed over and over. A majority of the kaladin and science chapters are the exact same chapter repeated over a dozen times. As much as I hated the schizo bitch in the last few books, she was my only real major complaint. Now I don’t want to waste my time with book 5 because of how shit this book was

[Anonymous No.23130136]

>>23130086
Couldn’t tell you about shallan because her character has always been the worst parts of these books. Really hope she gets killed off so we can have some peace and quiet in these books

[Anonymous No.23130157]

>>23124812
Dont want read the draft since I'm bad at writing but theres always been considerable leeway when it comes to "lgbt" relationships, I assume thats the only people you'd be concerned about anyway. Like would be a huge difference if you had a guy cloning his wife to make daughterwives.

I'm pretty sure I've read a few stories somewhat about a woman cloning herself or just having a lot of daughters that she will brainjack in a way to consolidate her power, sometimes sexually for dominance. Just as long as you do it offscreen and it doesnt just become weird porn.

[Anonymous No.23130158]

>>23130096
>supple
and dropped. idk why authors always have to use that word to describe someone feminine. feels gross reading it.

[Anonymous No.23130161]

>>23130158
>what is POV

Don't care nigger

[Anonymous No.23130167]

>>23130136
I'm not a huge fan of Shallan either and she could die for all I care, but I've seen people on /sffg/ defend her so just wanted to leave room for people to do so. I actually didnt mind her in the first couple of books but then she became like a passive character whose entire point is exposition for something. Also mental illness isnt a superpower

[Anonymous No.23130212]

>>23130167
Yeah, she’s a total authors pet, whose only point in the story is to extend her chapters by causing problems that either she gives up solving or others have to fix for her. It wouldn’t be that much of a problem but when these books are already bloated, and you have an entire character dedicated to causing issues that end up not mattering in the end since the issues are always completely resolved. Take rhythm of war. You have chapter after chapter dedicated to her doing this whole will she won’t she shit over killing the random guy, when it’s entirely her choice to work for the dudes asking her to kill this random dude. What the fuck you put yourself in this position. Even her finding out she killed a spren does fuck all to the story since her boy toy and his spren resolve that issue entirely on their own. None of it mattered as nothing she did even mattered to the story. It gets to an absurd degree when you realize this is 200+ pages of this fucking book which could have been cut down to 50 pages at most if she wasn’t involved

[Anonymous No.23130316]

is it ok or not?

[Anonymous No.23130329]

>>23130316
>Kelly GAY
The warning sign is right there, anon.

[Anonymous No.23130350]

>>23130316
>written by a woman
>literally called Gay
>"Halo setting" (lame space opera that overexplains everything and makes the aliens all boring humanoids, unlike the original Halo game which was actually kinda good)

[Anonymous No.23130351]

>>23130316
It's nice desu

[Anonymous No.23130354]

>>23129948
>>23129956
thought this wasn't out until march 12th
finishing up another book anyway but I'm excited

[Anonymous No.23130362]

>>23130350
lmao I thought it was a macho

[Anonymous No.23130373]

>>23130019
>What would count as a full chapter from any other author is used to establish that there's a near miss between Paula Myo and Adam Elvin
>then the actual plot resumes

It's not actually worth the time it demands, though it is genius. So what are we to do? Take breaks and read it at our own paces.

[Anonymous No.23130392]

>>23128814
Contact

[Anonymous No.23130410]

>>23129893
At least the aliens bully him

[Anonymous No.23130416]

>>23129226
Might be the ultimate proof that some writers actually just don't have a voice in their head telling them what's coal and what's not.

[Anonymous No.23130585]

>>23130130
>>23130136
Shit, okay. I might still read it to see what fantasy nowadays

[Anonymous No.23130647]

>>23125718
Ice Age type of scenario hasn't been done much, that I know of. Currently reading a series with that setting but it's probably the first I've ever read

[Anonymous No.23130655]

Hello /sffg/, I’d like to share my first short story with you all.
https://mega.nz/file/hpghxBwI#7gbi2cvW9aSFDOazz51sr-QFrfcfVWKGUqGoR52QRv0

[Anonymous No.23130713]

Has anyone read The Space Trilogy by CS Lewis? How'd you like it?

>>23130638
I'm not sure why but I found the first one a bit boring, but there were a few really cool things in it, like those invisible creatures and talking about space like its "the heavens", and the nature of light and stuff. Maybe it was just the time I was reading it. It was the first book I'd read in years and I was kinda depressed.

I found the little bits of philosophy super interesting, but the plot itself kind of boring because most of it is just Ransom walking around confused.

[Anonymous No.23130792]

>>23130096
They didn't "find themselves" in this place, they're clearly intentionally travelling a route they well know.

[Anonymous No.23130802]

>>23130019
>he can't write small books
I won't read big books

[Anonymous No.23130843]

>>23130130
Which is the Shartplate book?

[Anonymous No.23131001]

>>23124422
Holy shit, shameless litrpg poster is back!

[Anonymous No.23131021]

what happens itt?

[Anonymous No.23131037]

>>23131021
We talk about fantasy literature and big penis problems.

[Anonymous No.23131120]

>>23130713
Fair enough. But I really enjoyed it, especially the angle of how (apparently) each planet in the solar system has its own "story" and how Earth is silent because of its guardian being corrupt (implying that its referring to Satan or Lucifer)

[Anonymous No.23131176]

Good Fantasy and sci-fi

>Sokaiseva
>Berserk
>I Am Not Chaotic Evil
>The Murderbot Diaries
>Melody of Mana
The Dragon Riders of Pern
>Warlock of The Magus World
>Ringworld
>Neuromancer
>12 Miles Below
>There Are Superheroes In This Story
>A Neets Guide To Becoming A God
>The Reality Dysfunction
>What We Do To Survive
>A Practical Guide To Sorcery
>Healer of Monsters
>Blame
>Tenebroum
>Violent Solutions


Good Lit-RPG

>Overgeared
>As Good as Dead
>The Warlord
>The Nailmaker
>Cinnamon Bun
>Book of The Dead
>The Tutorial Is Too Hard
>The Reincarnation of Alysara
>Dawn of The Void
>Eight
>Hell Difficulty Tutorial
>Age of Stone
>The Mana Influx
>Red Mage

[Anonymous No.23131191]

>>23131021
Truth shines. Read Cradle. I am literally Fang Yuan. FUCK he's good.

[Anonymous No.23131264]

>>23130350
The original Nylund Halo books had excellent mysterious alien lore, great books.
Everything else Halo I've touched has been atrocious. Though I imagine the Egan books are okay at least.

[Anonymous No.23131271]

>>23131176
Actually good sff:
>The Time Machine
>The Hobbit
>The Stars My Destination
>The Broken Sword
>Neuromancer
>The End of Eternity
>Shadow of the Torturer
>Swords and Deviltry
>Conan
>Dune
>Illuminatus!
>The Forever War
>Blind Voices
>Fevre Dream
>Berserk
>Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
>Wizard of Earthsea
>Titus Groan
>Bridge of Birds
>Soon I Will Be Invincible
>Spaceman Blues
>The Pastel City
>Cloud Atlas
>The Deep
>The Swords Trilogy
>Black Leopard Red Wolf
>Assassins Apprentice
>A Song of Ice and Fire
>The Darkness That Comes Before
>Jack Vance

[Anonymous No.23131321]

>>23131271
>The Time Machine
What's the verdict on his other 3 big works?

[Anonymous No.23131362]

>>23131321
>War of The Worlds
Fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.23131374]

Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said

[Anonymous No.23131448]

>>23131271
>>Bridge of Birds
Giga based. Never thought I'd see this recommended by another anon

[Anonymous No.23131791]

>>23122557
To Green Angel Tower is unironically one of the best conclusions in fantasy. I'd love to hear all your other's thoughts on what you think your favorite finale in a fantasy series is

[Anonymous No.23131804]

I read the first three books in this series for some reason. They're the blandest gruel xianxia imaginable except with multiple POVs stopping the progress of the progression.

[Anonymous No.23131808]

>>23131271
Needs Bastard!!, Eternal Champion/Elric, Vampire Hunter D, and Kane.

[Anonymous No.23131815]

>>23131804
Try reading actual xanxia next time

[Anonymous No.23131863]

>>23129288
Read Tolkien's work in publishing order

[Anonymous No.23131911]

You guys see Neuromancer is getting a tv show?

[Anonymous No.23131920]

>>23124890
>>23124887
You forgot the part where the kid randomly decides to blow the Zeumi prince for no reason and also the part in the short story where the big bad Consult guy really enjoys getting fucked by alien dick with black jizz. The gay shit literally just gets worse as the books go on. I was genuinely surprised when the end didn't involve stopping the no god by means of anal sex with a complex philosophical justification.

[Anonymous No.23131974]

>human discovered parallel universes
>established contact with a local parallel universe, a fantasy world
> Aliens invade the human's universe
>enlist help from the fantasy universe
any stories like this?

[Anonymous No.23131978]

>>23131271
>The broken sword

[Anonymous No.23132079]

>>23131974
GATE

[Anonymous No.23132096]

>>23130585
The 1st 3 books are good, but rhythm of war is such a piece of dogshit you’re gonna feel like you’ve wasted your time. When I talk bad about shallan, it should be noted that in books 1-3 it goes from 7-8/10 to a 2/10 during her chapters. She will piss you off, and if you ever do a reread, most people say to outright skip her chapters because of how bad they are. The 5th book will hopefully be good cause it’s going to involve the characters not tainted by ROW’s bullshit, but I’ll wait for reviews before I give it a chance

Btw just as a warning, Brandon loves jerking off his magic systems so be ready for the 50 chapters of slamming tuning forks together in ROW

[Anonymous No.23132102]

>>23131978
Imagine being filtered by The Broken Sword of all kinos.

[Anonymous No.23132127]

>>23132102
Imagine thinking The Broken Sword IS kino.

[Anonymous No.23132134]

>>23132102
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.23132227]

Christopher Stasheff: Good or not?

[Anonymous No.23132239]

>>23132127
>>23132134
Rather read Anderson over GRRM

[Anonymous No.23132243]

>>23132239
>Rather read <garbage> over <garbage>
I'd rather read neither.

[deleting No.23132244]

look
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1708538514652328.webm

[Anonymous No.23132250]

>>23132096
Noted. I've heard so much shitting over Shallan (even from the hardcore Sandersoys) that it really was holding me back.

[Anonymous No.23132264]

>>23131120
I thought that was really cool too. The philosophy and world building is really cool, I just found the plot itself to be a bit dull. But I plan on reading the other two just because I want to read more about the setting even if the plot is lacking. Maybe I'm just being dumb and looking for something it's not supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.23132287]

>>23132127
>>23132134
>>23132243
It's kino.

[Anonymous No.23132356]

>>23132287

[Anonymous No.23132433]

Currently reading pic related.
End of blogpost.

[Anonymous No.23132447]

Hey anons I want to write a RoyalRoad story and get famous, any advice?

[Anonymous No.23132534]

>>23132264
Yeah, at least to me the book definitely leans more towards the philosophical and theological angle. This was CS Lewis's attempt to present what could be a creation myth for another world, after all.

[Anonymous No.23132539]

>>23132447
Make your protagonist a gay trans paraplegic that has irritable bowel syndrome who is the chosen one and has marvel superpowers

[Anonymous No.23132543]

>>23132447
Don't do what I did

[Anonymous No.23132556]

>>23132543
ok

[Anonymous No.23132576]

>>23132543
what did you do anon

[Anonymous No.23132598]

>>23129893
> hold my beer
t. Cheng Xin

[Anonymous No.23132865]

>>23132576
he didnt write something involving trannies

[Anonymous No.23132917]

>>23128845
>>23130078
>>23130392
read all 3 of those, especially loved contact and blindsight
>>23129846
thanks, never heard of this one before, gonna check it out! seems like exactly what im lookin for

[Anonymous No.23133114]

>>23131808
Swords Trilogy > Elric
>>23131321
War of the World's is also great, but nothing beats the adventure of The Time Machine to me. What would be the third? I found Invisible Man a bit of a letdown

[Anonymous No.23133238]

I want to wrote a story set in a modern world with cell phones and fast food, but everyone operates under the logic of a fantasy novel. For example you have gangs of wandering adventures, but instead of horses they drive cars and motorcycles. Instead of evil aristocrats you have tech bros, the monsters are government bio-weapons that have escaped from black sites. Any more ideas like this? I'm not trying to write a serious story, I'm aware it is a pretty silly idea.

[Anonymous No.23133277]

>>23133238
FFXV?

[Anonymous No.23133289]

>>23133277
I like the road trip aspect but I want to feature more Americana. Area 51, the CIA, the Mafia, stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.23133319]

>>23133238
God, Mandy was kino

[Anonymous No.23133348]

>>23132539
>no grab bag of mental illnesses
You need to laser focus on noisy twitter weirdos if you want that online word of mouth

[Anonymous No.23133358]

>>23133289
Wow Americana, no ones ever done that before, what an esoteric obscure quirky topic

[Anonymous No.23133384]

Was it kino?

[Anonymous No.23133390]

>>23133114
>his other 3 big works
War of the Worlds, The Invisible Man, The Island of Doctor Moreau

[Anonymous No.23133651]

>>23131911
Hope it's not bad.
>>23130034
First one is fine, skip the rest.
>>23130033
What books are a 5/5 for you?

[Anonymous No.23133681]

>>23131911
>>23133651
>Graham Roland and JD Dillard will develop the project for TV. Additionally, Roland will serve as showrunner and Dillard is set to direct the pilot episode.
>Hope it's not bad.
Anon....

[Anonymous No.23133683]

>>23132447
What do you want to write about?

[Anonymous No.23133693]

>>23133681
Surely they won't ruin it...

Also why the fuck are there 2 threads up. I know someone fucked up and made this one too soon but still guys.

[Anonymous No.23133695]

>>23133384
It was /lit/

[Anonymous No.23133711]

Bakker news?

[Anonymous No.23133732]

>>23133693
>Surely they won't ruin it...

[Anonymous No.23133742]

So for anyone interested in this kind of thing, my self pub novella that I've mentioned before just came. It's a Lewis & Clark style adventure across the post-collapse ruins of America. Conceptually sort of a Gene Wolfe's "Book of the New Sun" meets "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow".

[Anonymous No.23133752]

Picked up The Complete Robot yesterday by Asimov. What's your favourite short stories by him? Feel like reading a couple tonight.


>>23122849

They'd absolutely bastardize Speaker to Animals character and just make him le funny cat man comic relief completely ruining his depth.

[Anonymous No.23133774]

>>23133742
Sounds based, not-so-anon

[Anonymous No.23133776]

>>23133742
How do I know if this is good if no one calls it a tour de force

[Anonymous No.23133808]

>>23133742
Is it pozzed? Is there sex/females/lgbt/cuckoldry/religion/moralfaggotry/blacks in your novel?

[Anonymous No.23133810]

>>23133808
Religion is the exact opposite of pozzed you moron

[Anonymous No.23133813]

>>23133810
Nah, religion is adjacent to pozzed.

[Anonymous No.23133815]

>>23133808
You can have blacks in something without it being trash. You like Rocky, don't you?

[Anonymous No.23133817]

>>23133810
LOL

[Anonymous No.23133818]

>>23133813
Even Christianity?

[Anonymous No.23133819]

>>23133815
Was Rocky black?

[Anonymous No.23133822]

>>23133819
You do know who Rocky's opponents in the first 3 movies were, don't you?

[Anonymous No.23133823]

>>23133818
Yes.

[Anonymous No.23133829]

>>23133823
I would not call any of the tradcath authors I've come across "pozzed" in the slightest. Hell, a lot of the superversive/sad puppy/pulprev crowd are tradcath, and are anti-woke as fuck.

[Anonymous No.23133834]

>>23133822
Yeah, I didn't really like his opponents.

[Anonymous No.23133844]

>>23133829
Traditional catholicism is the biggest joke of all christianity, their very own foundation is rooted in closeted homosexuality and pederasty.

[Anonymous No.23133859]

>>23133774
Thank you bruddah! I got a few buddies who agreed to write reviews this month I'll happily share here but I promise not to he annoying/constant

>>23133776
I'm working on paying off a tiktok broad to say this

>>23133808
Certified unpozzed. Religion and women exist, but I think they both justify their existence in this case. One reviewer did say he felt there was a misogynistic undercurrent which I'd argue is essential to the themes of the book.

[Anonymous No.23133863]

>>23133114
Island of Doctor Moreau is pretty good

[Anonymous No.23133866]

>Neuromancer is finally getting a TV series adaptation
>But it's by Apple and will be an Apple+ exclusive
>The guy making it is a cringe case who's previous shows have all been about sucking off cops and the US army and oh god he loves the US military and how great modern western capitalist military-industrial complex is
>real Heinlein / Rand / Trumptard hours

I guarantee you he will totally miss the entire point of everything and how cyberpunk is supposed to be dystopian

[Anonymous No.23133876]

>>23133238
I bet the Illuminatus Trilogy and Mumbo Jumbo would help give you ideas.

[Anonymous No.23133877]

>>23133742
Congrats anon. I'd be willing to support a fellow anon. I also have questions in terms of self-pub.

My biggest doubts are in regards to editors: who did you hire to be your editor and how did you find them? And also how have you given thought to marketing (this is my biggest mental hurdle, as of now)?

I've got a manuscript done and am currently finishing another manuscript but after this is all said and done, my mind goes blank and dunno where to go from there

[Anonymous No.23133880]

>>23133866
I mean the guy who wrote it is a complete cringe case and invented the most reddit genre of all time, even surpassing steam industrial aesthetics as reddit faggotry

[Anonymous No.23133881]

>>23133711
Likaro status: cursed.

[Anonymous No.23133882]

>>23133742
>>23133859
Can you post a chapter or two?

[Anonymous No.23133884]

>>23133813
If you mean nu age paganisn/satanism, then yes. Otherwise, religion usually goes against tranny gospel. Unless they're, surprise surprise, pozzed by nu age

[Anonymous No.23133917]

>>23133882
Of course, and I appreciate you giving me a shot. Chapter 1 is available as a sample on Amazon already but these first two chapters will be posted with better formatting/graphic design later this month on my friend's site, but I just moved them into a google doc now so you can sample here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Rl9HSSre37mz-kj9mW4yeBcgRNRuaXnxJM2LH3hhpQY/edit?usp=sharing

I'd share the Amazon link as well but I worry that will rouse a janny.

[Anonymous No.23133937]

The further I get into the Prince of Nothing, the more agape I am at Bakker's actual skill. This is definitely an author that has been unfairly prejudiced by memes and surface-level criticisms of elements which they themselves are superficial. Yes, Bakker freely and artistically uses the term "whore" in the way only a philosopher familiar with the eternal feminine would, yes there is rape, yes it is dark, yes Kellhus is a likely a crystallization of the author's philosophy (in a way one may shallowly call a self-insert), but all of that is nothing in the face of what actually matters: the incredibly rich world, the natural-feeling cultures, the clear and precise writing style, the penchant for powerful phrasing which carries the weight of his ideas... This is the good stuff. It's almost unfortunate that Bakker's brutalistic world view involves so much rape because it gives meme-lovers something shallow to cling onto a parrot. I suppose the anime-tier clipart that is used to represent sorcerers is also a bit easy to meme on. But seriously, all of that should be discarded. It's like halfway between the Wheel of Time (the ultimate classical fantasy story that evolved Tolkien in a fusion of cyclical theology with more modern sword and sorcery) and Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun (full-on theology with the dense, heavy hand of a literary genius) - a beautiful and gripping unison.

[Anonymous No.23133947]

>>23125796
I’m on book 8 of Tanya and I don’t see the correlation, or at least I refuse I refuse to see it

[Anonymous No.23133950]

>>23133917
What is it about?

[Anonymous No.23133957]

>>23123972
I like Dune a lot

[Anonymous No.23133958]

>>23132250
The other characters are genuinely good, but it gets extremely frustrating because she’s annoying and her storylines tend to be entirely enclosed. Like I said, most of the story is pretty good. If you end up liking the first 3 books I would honestly suggest waiting for book 5, and looking up a plot synopsis for book 4 since only around 200 pages of a 1200 page book does anything to move the story forward

[Anonymous No.23133971]

>>23126476
Forgotten Realms predates reddit by at least 40 years. Do you know what recursion is, anon?

[Anonymous No.23134031]

>>23133950
Plot synopsis with no spoilers past chapter 1 is that several hundred years after technological & ecological collapse, the environment and civilization are well on their way to recovery. Two men from a remnant of civilization in Ohio are assigned to scout out the wild frontier of West Virginia (where people have reverted to a tribal lifestyle) in advance of a colonization effort and must live to report on what they find. In the writing style there is a lot of riffing on colonial America in terms of language, customs, and sentence structure.

Without getting too spergy there are 3 ways I hope to have made it entertaining:
1) Just a good old fashioned Lewis & Clark adventure in the post-apocalypse
2) Have setting details be known to the 1st person POV but a slowly unraveled mystery to the reader (trying to follow Papa Pringleman's example here)
3) There is a mysteriously abandoned fort in the wilderness that the protagonist must discover the fate of, but also a larger mystery I won't spoil that ties into that which the protaganist only partly resolves. Half of my beta readers completely understood this aspect and half only partially did - but it's supposed to fun no matter how many pieces you put together on this angle.

[Anonymous No.23134058]

>>23134031
Well the protag does not seem to be retarded or 15 yo teenager, from chapter 1 he appears to be capable and competent (somewhat older for his early 20s character), a rarity among modern protagonists.

[Anonymous No.23134091]

>>23123450
>Dragon Wing
>Prince of Thorns
>Dragons of Winter Twilight

[Anonymous No.23134095]

>>23133971
So does the Marvel universe shit, but you won't see anyone here trying to explain away its r*dditness by calling it recursion.

[Anonymous No.23134126]

>>23133880
Industrial steam engines predate reddit by at least 200 years. Do you know what recursion is, anon?

[Anonymous No.23134132]

>>23123517
Enjoyed that series very much when I was in elementary, haven't read/reread any since. Should review them so I can decide whether to get them for my 8-year-old.
Yeah, I remember them as surprisingly violent, lots of death, instances of cold blooded murder...

[Anonymous No.23134138]

>>23123972
I had no particular interest years ago, but it kept coming up as a recommendation.
I enjoyed it.

[Anonymous No.23134148]

>>23129288
Save Silmarillion for later.

[Anonymous No.23134180]

>>23134095
Different things. Nowadays you get your woke Marvel comic books as usual, but Forgotten Realms novellisation is almost dead.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_novels_in_order_of_publication

The main corpus of those books is mainly from the 1990s and 2000s.

[Anonymous No.23134185]

>>23134058
The story and his character are loosely inspired by Nicholas Cresswell who as a very young English man attempted to find his fortune in in America. Unfortunately for him he did this in 1774. He kept a diary that I highly recommend reading though. Modern people underestimate how fast people matured in traditional cultures.

[Anonymous No.23134342]

>>23134031
Interested, unironically

[Anonymous No.23134354]

>>23123991
Finishing the first book, The Anvil of Ice amd gotta say it's very enjoyable. As of now, it's relatively low stakes which is refreshing in epic fantasy. A smith being the main character is also pretty interesting

[Anonymous No.23134411]

What are some examples of arbitrary fictional characters written well? Can a protagonist like that be fun or interesting to read?

[Anonymous No.23134525]

>>23134411
Arbitrary how?

[Anonymous No.23134558]

>>23130033
roadside picnic was boring as FUCK, nothing burger, hot garbage imo. had to put it down halfway through, just wasn't worth the time to slog through when i have books waiting in queue

[Anonymous No.23134640]

Just finished Pandora's Star and Judas Unchained. What do you call it when everything's great but the book is still a fucking slog?
Wish I could read Hamilton edited down to about 1/4 of the length.

[Anonymous No.23134657]

Read wheel of time, malazan, Bakker, Wolfe
Read dune, Ender's game, snow crash, some asimov
Gone through the infographics before. Posting for (you)s
Just finished realm of the elderlings and feeling like I need a complete palate cleanser because I was using it for mega escapism from irl despair. Entertaining all reccs. Sincerely anon.

[Anonymous No.23134665]

>>23134640
Are you me from the future? I'm on the cusp of getting to Judas Unchained and this might. be the first book I've had to strategize my reading for. I forgot that Renne and Tarlo aren't the same person at one point. If nothing else, there's a hell of a lot of detail in the setting. A tv show would have nothing to add for the run time.

[Anonymous No.23134758]

>>23134665
i was constantly looking up names of people/places/orgs on a wiki i swear there's fucking hundreds of them

[Anonymous No.23134774]

>>23134758
Are we sure Peter F. Hamilton isn't an alias for a writing team? It's like if Robert E. Howard or Agatha Christie crammed all of their works into one, at least concerning the word count and event count.

[Anonymous No.23134892]

>Prepare to die. His kingdom is near.

>Sixteen-year-old trans boy Benji is on the run from the cult that raised him—the fundamentalist sect that unleashed Armageddon and decimated the world’s population. Desperately, he searches for a place where the cult can’t get their hands on him, or more importantly, on the bioweapon they infected him with.

>But when cornered by monsters born from the destruction, Benji is rescued by a group of teens from the local Acheson LGBTQ+ Center, affectionately known as the ALC. The ALC’s leader, Nick, is gorgeous, autistic, and a deadly shot, and he knows Benji’s darkest secret: the cult’s bioweapon is mutating him into a monster deadly enough to wipe humanity from the earth once and for all.

>Still, Nick offers Benji shelter among his ragtag group of queer teens, as long as Benji can control the monster and use its power to defend the ALC. Eager to belong, Benji accepts Nick’s terms…until he discovers the ALC’s mysterious leader has a hidden agenda, and more than a few secrets of his own.

>A furious, queer debut novel about embracing the monster within and unleashing its power against your oppressors. Perfect for fans of Gideon the Ninth and Annihilation.

[Anonymous No.23134945]

>>23129288
Read The Hobbit when you're eight to ten years old, LOTR when you're in your teens, and read the Silmarillion when you're a grown man.

[Anonymous No.23134962]

What are we reading tonight lads? Making my way through Swan Song some interesting stuff is happening but I really don't like Swan's actual chapters as much as the other two Roland and Sister are much more interesting characters but it's a pretty fun book so far. The Man With the Scarlet Eyes just kind of feels like a discount Randall Flagg but it's enjoyable so far

[Anonymous No.23135025]

>>23134962
Who Goes There? by John Campbell. I'm watching the Parasyte anime, and I thought I should check out the original story of The Thing since I've already watched The Thing many times. I just love the concept.

[Anonymous No.23135038]

>>23134962
I'm trying to finally get into Sci-Fi and I'm debating whether to start with A Fire Upon the Deep, Ilium/Olympos, or Revelation Space. I haven't read any Sci-Fi except for 1984, Childhood's End, and Hyperion.

[Anonymous No.23135046]

>>23134031
the story sounds incredible, fun and gripping. i would really like to read it in full but i need a break from post-apoc after just finishing Swan Song and Lucifer's Hammer..

[Anonymous No.23135068]

>>23134657
Snow Crash is so damn good i need to read it again soonish.
i will shamelessly recommend my favorite fantasy series, it's a 7 book series called the Deathgate Cycle by margaret weiss and tracy hickman. i think i like it because it isn't convoluted with 100s of snowflake characters, kingdoms and plots.

[Anonymous No.23135099]

I won't apologize for my bad taste.

[Anonymous No.23135172]

>>23131264
>Though I imagine the Egan books are okay at least.
it's Greg Bear lol. Not Egan.

[Anonymous No.23135212]

>>23134962
Still reading: >>23132433
>yfw the villain is a gay pedo

[Anonymous No.23135228]

>>23135212
That's right; the villain wants to magically transform the hero into a young boy so he can rape him.

[Anonymous No.23135230]

>>23134031
>>23133742
I read this at the beginning of the year and wrote the author an email of some length about my thoughts. I decided against writing about it with my sffg trip though. I continue to think the author isn't representing it well, but I'll otherwise abstain from negativity. It really isn't that long, as the page count and word count shows. It's only a bit longer then a novelette, barely a novella, so at least it won't take long for anyone to read.

[Anonymous No.23135280]

Can anyone tell me if this one is worth reading? I've never heard it mentioned even though it's Herbert we're talking about so I'm a little worried that it's shit

[Anonymous No.23135296]

>>23133358
>no ones ever done that before
Who cares about originality, especially on sffg?

[Anonymous No.23135333]

>>23135046
Appreciate the kind words man, and it's certainly not going anywhere so please consider jotting it down on your "maybe later" list

>>23135230
>I continue to think the author isn't representing it well
For whatever it's worth, not one other reader (even females) has have the same seething reaction to it you did. Sit back and let the court of public opinion cogitate.

[Anonymous No.23135337]

>>23135230
Are you that guy complaining about misogyny? Just keep your opinion to yourself, m8.

[Anonymous No.23135377]

>>23135333
Again I'm just saying you may be losing out on readers by not being forthright with it's about.

>>23135337
My complaint is the half-hearted measures and obscured ideology.

[Anonymous No.23135394]

>>23133742
>america
dropped

[Anonymous No.23135403]

>>23135377
I also still think it's more Young Goodman Brown than anything else.

[Anonymous No.23135418]

>>23133742
>America
picked up

[Anonymous No.23135466]

>>23135403
Do you mean the book is about religion?

[Anonymous No.23135480]

>>23135466
Their religion is called Moralism and it's about that, but as with Young Goodman Brown I'd say it's about the fall of man and personal temptation.

[Anonymous No.23135498]

Finished reading A Wizard of Earthsea recently. Good book. Magic system was unusual - a focus on (true) names of objects and people, and the difficulty of permanently changing the nature of an object. Setting was good, no iconic continent to stand-out but rather archipelagos, some islands more important, some much less so.
Good, perfectly legible prose, and a sane plot. Not completely predictable, but nothing too wacky either.
I learned of it from a fantasy rec chart posted here a few months back I think. Strangest thing was how this was an S-tier. I'd have given it a B-tier, but I'm very inexperienced with fantasy books.

[Anonymous No.23135565]

>>23135480
What's going on? You said there was no moralfaggotry in your book

[Anonymous No.23135570]

You read science fiction for entertainment. I read science fiction to prepare for alien invasion. We are not the same.

[Anonymous No.23135584]

>>23135570
What have you learned so far?

[Anonymous No.23135587]

>>23135038
I vote Vinge. It's 10/10.

[Anonymous No.23135594]

>>23135584
DNA is important knowledge if it's an alien that can disguise as human because that's most likely the way to identify them.

[Anonymous No.23135602]

>>23135565

> A young wife came upon me while I tended to my horse behind the smokehouse. The whore slid her hand into the crook of my arm and asked if I might ‘be with her’ before I departed

> twisting mass of unresolved lust to either beat her backside with a switch down the public road or return to ravish her like the damned alley cat that she was.

> Both of my hands found her, gripping her delicate arms just as she grabbed at my collar and our mouths found each other. She pushed me back onto the bed and straddled me

> a naked child dashed before our horses; she was no more than two years old and the pale cleft of her crotch shocked me as much as the incoherent screams.

> They were young, one of them assuredly no more than fourteen years and the eldest still younger than me.

> I could smell their unconcealed womanhood through their spread skirts, a deep stink like boiled herbs. It stirred me as much as it disgusted me.

> When I shook my head in confusion he laughed again. “They aren’t people, not like we are.”

[Anonymous No.23135620]

>>23135602
>It stirred me as much as it disgusted me.
I am sensing some red flags here.

[Anonymous No.23135675]

>>23135377
>>23135403
>>23135480
>>23135602
Seriously fucked up of you SFFG Review dude. I ask if you'd consider reviewing and you said you'd check it out and review if liked it or give private feedback if didn't - but then you just turn off your trip and seethe/post quotes completely out of context lines (for example the girl who he is smelling is underage which is why he's disgusted) to spoil people on the story across several posts and bias them against it because you mistakenly think I'm a nazi religious fundamentalist or something.

Serves me right for speaking to a tripfag! I want to be very clear that I'm not asking to reply and engage in a debate point for point. I'm suggesting you fuck off and neck yourself.

[Anonymous No.23135735]

>>23134126
I'm talking about steampubk but I refuse to call it steampunk

[Anonymous No.23135752]

>>23135675
See, that's the sort of forthrightness you should've wrote instead. I only have the trip on when I'm posting about a book in a somewhat more formal way. It's in spoilers for that reason. Anyone can choose to read it or not, unlike yours, which isn't spoilered. I also wouldn't really consider that spoiling, especially not in terms of the plot. I'm not trying to bias anyone. I don't think that's what you are at all. You're the one who self-described it as "chudlit" in your discord server and you ought to market it as such. I'm not seething. As I keep saying, I'm not making value judgments. My main complaint as I stated several times is that you don't go far enough. How else will you find success like BAP, Mike Ma, or Andrew Tate? I hope many more read it and give their opinion, especially those outside of your /lit/ clubs. I wouldn't really even consider this to be much criticism. I specifically warned you this was a bad idea from the start.
>>/lit/thread/22923663#p22938446

[Anonymous No.23135770]

>>23135498
The only reason I've kept Earthsea off is because apparently the series dips in quality later on

[Anonymous No.23135777]

>>23135752
>You're the one who self-described it as "chudlit"
>chudlit
This keeps getting better and better

[Anonymous No.23135783]

>>23134962
Currently reading Anvil of Ice

[Anonymous No.23135784]

Wouldn't an anvil of ice shatter on impact

[Anonymous No.23135791]

>>23135784
Not if you use a hammer of ice.

[Anonymous No.23135792]

>>23135777
https://twitter.com/TookysMag/status/1763572728500551713

[Anonymous No.23135800]

>>23135752
>tripfag admits to doing disingenuous tranny shit
You are an absolutely pathetic faggot but I will give you credit for admiting it unlike your other troon brothers. Man why does scifi attract all you fucking wacko fucks.

[Anonymous No.23135825]

>>23135800
You really don't know when to quit, do you?

[Anonymous No.23135830]

>>23135752
My final response to you, for now at least: I don't mind you saying you hated it, with or without a trip, or that you think I'm evil because I post goofy stuff with other right wing dudes on Twitter dot com.

My complaint is that you used the opportunity to read something early to pull very select quotes in a disenguous way to frame me up. It's just a really dirty way to operate dude, I can't imagine doing that to even the most obnoxious leftoid, and if you can't see that your are genuinely unhinged.

>>23135800
This wasn't me you weirdo. I'm done engaging with you.

[Anonymous No.23135834]

>>23135784
gotta read it to get it, anon

[Anonymous No.23135868]

>>23127683
>>23127683
>>23127683

NEW(ish) THREAD IS UP

[Anonymous No.23135878]

>>23135830
I didn't hate it. If I did I would've said so. I also don't think you're evil. Yes, they're out of context, though I don't think they misrepresent what you wrote. I'm not here to persecute you. If I were I'd be much more harsh.

[Anonymous No.23135912]

>>23135830
You should've taken your friend's advice more seriously.
https://www.decentralizedfiction.com/p/how-to-spectacularly-fail-at-marketing

> How to spectacularly fail at marketing your book on 4chan's /lit/erature board

[Anonymous No.23135917]

>>23135830
imagine arguing with a tripfag in earnest

[Anonymous No.23135927]

>>23135917
A very simple thing to imagine indeed.

[Anonymous No.23136110]

Read the xeelee sequence and the great ship series
Read the Ursian Chronicles (Sword of Bayne; Castle of Endless Woe; Lerebus Shieldbreaker collection; Kronbow trilogies)
Read the Radix Tetrad but they may as well be standalone because the last book doesn't tie much together
Read more books in general outside of the same five authors

[Anonymous No.23136137]

>Yev being flamed for being an insiduous stereotypical longnose
rolling on the floor laughing my ass off

>>23134962
I am finishing up Mission of Gravity and am excited to see how the book ultimately ends: that is, whichever twist is involving the advanced tech within the Rocket that Barlennan & Friends are about to locate.
I've had a VN called Swan Song in my backlog for eons.

>>23135917

Reminder that when he says dicksword, he's referring to a normalfag-infested hive where >women discuss their real-life relationships, as if that has any (wait for it) relationship, or correlation, to sci-fi and fantasy book club discussion.
HOWEVER
HOWEVER
I WILL SUBTRACT 10 POINTS FROM GRYFFINDOR if this claim that writer-anon called his writing "chudlit" can be proven.

[Anonymous No.23136270]

>>23134962
Getting back into Midnight Tides after starting then stopping it back in January. Pretty into the cast so far, can't wait to see the tragedy that ends up fucking Trull over

[Anonymous No.23136278]

>>23135917
>>23136137
what the fuck are you talking about anon

[Anonymous No.23136295]

>>23136137
>>23135792
Several more instances exist

[Anonymous No.23136351]

>>23136137
>I WILL SUBTRACT 10 POINTS FROM GRYFFINDOR
Harry Potterfags were a mistake

[Anonymous No.23136475]

>>23135068
Cryptonomicon is better; Snow Crash felt... I dunno, too tryhard in some respect.
I think I even enjoyed Anathem more than Snow Crash.

[Anonymous No.23136647]

>>23133742
There is a near zero chance ill read it but I want you to know i appreciate that you wrote a novella and not a million word doorstopper

[Anonymous No.23136653]

>>23136647
It's around 20k words.

[Anonymous No.23136818]

>>23136653
Mine's bigger. Childish jokes aside, NTA, and I'll try to remember this.