/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.23186539]

newfag edition

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[Anonymous No.23186543]

>>23186310
wasp factory is incredible tho not part of culture series

[Anonymous No.23186550]

Read Beyond Apollo

[Anonymous No.23186557]

I reread Worm and Ward by Wildbow and been reading a lot of Parahumans fanfic lately. I'm well aware of Wildbow's flaws, both early in his career and in general. Nonetheless, Worm has a special place in my heart. Some of it is nostalgia but a lot of it is the fact that it seems almost perfectly tailored to my specific tastes. If you're looking for a recommendation of a novel length fic that bucks a lot of the battleboarding and self-insert trends of the fandom I recommend The Underside of Gotham. It doesn't require intimate knowledge of either franchise and is graciously quite dissimilar from the Wayne Family Adventures webcomic. It's very character focused.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/43819486/chapters/110186254

[Anonymous No.23186559]

>>23186550
why

[Anonymous No.23186562]

If anyone needs a cheap editor, let me know. I'm free this week while my client rewrites his third act

[Anonymous No.23186574]

>tfw cant commit to a new book
>tfw I open some shit Ive already read for the 50th time
I am the embodiement of the sin of sloth

[Anonymous No.23186586]

Hey yea this is right wing d tier

[Anonymous No.23186612]

>pictured: mfw I am becoming a Dunefag

[Anonymous No.23186667]

I started reading xianxia a week ago after all the shilling, specifically 'Martial World.' As expected, the prose is terrible, the plot itself is mediocre, and the characters feel 2D most of the time. But there's just something so mesmerizing about it, gets my blood pumping, you know? I don't remember the last time I actually rooted for a main character as much as right now.

[Anonymous No.23187032]

>>23186557
nah im good

[Anonymous No.23187237]

>>23186539
Good Fantasy and sci-fi

>The Reality Dysfunction
>The Murderbot Diaries
>Melody of Mana
>The Dragon Riders of Pern
>Warlock of The Magus World
>Ringworld
>Neuromancer
>12 Miles Below
>Berserk
>There Are Superheroes In This Story
>A Neets Guide To Becoming A God
>Healer of Monsters
>Blame
>Tenebroum
>Sokaiseva
>I Am Not Chaotic Evil
>Violent Solutions


Good Lit-RPG

>The Nailmaker
>Cinnamon Bun
>Book of The Dead
>The Tutorial Is Too Hard
>The Reincarnation of Alysara
>Dawn of The Void
>Eight
>Hell Difficulty Tutorial
>Age of Stone
>The Warlord
>Overgeared
>The Mana Influx
>Red Mage

[Anonymous No.23187334]

For having no discussion, this general moves surprisingly fast.

>>23186557
No thank you.

[Anonymous No.23187507]

Is Severian a strong, silent protagonist?

[Anonymous No.23187512]

>>23186574
Slothful people don't read, they watch TV

[Anonymous No.23187530]

>The Sanderson book about the painter is being sold for €26 in the local bookshop
Wew lad.
Rhythm of War and The Lost Metal were both disappointing, any of his other "one-offs" as good as The Way of Kings?

[Anonymous No.23187535]

>>23187334
damn, that's gotta uncomfortable for her tits

[Anonymous No.23187567]

>>23186557
You Worm fanfiction people are strange to me. I don't get liking a character or setting when they're divorced from the author. It's wild to me that there are people obsessed with reading and writing Worm fanfiction who haven't even read the original.

[Anonymous No.23187635]

what did i think of it?

[Anonymous No.23187666]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.23187669]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince

[Anonymous No.23187821]

>>23187635
Corny and superficial

[Anonymous No.23187966]

Are the rest of the Sprawl trilogy as good as Neuromancer and if not are they at least worth reading if you really liked Neuromancer?

[Anonymous No.23187976]

>>23186539
>>>23186310

consider phlebas is easily bank's worst. the rest of the culture series is thoroughly mid and skippable. you can get the whole iain m. banks ride in one place with the algebraist, which is just a quasi-culture novel with much better ideas.

[Anonymous No.23188078]

How do you think Aegon is going to take King's Landing lads? I think Connington's Greyscale could play a majorrole, like I see him potentially using it as a deterrent against Cersei showing it is a route he could go down if she doesn't abdicates the Iron Throne just so she shits bricks and caves in then leaves to go back to Casterly Rock, but at the same time I don't see him being the type who'd resort to biologoical warfare to win back his birthright. I could see him maybe pulling a trojan's horse tactic

[Anonymous No.23188098]

>>23188078
One thing I learned about GoT is that long reaching plans never come true. Aegon will never take KG. Something unexpected will happen along the way.

[Anonymous No.23188115]

Let me continue lamenting the current state of sf and my inability to find anything worth reading. But before I start I gotta ask - who the fuck writes those "best new science fiction and fantasy" lists? I am amazed at how bad (and cultish) those are.

Anyway, onwards and upwards:

Hardwired by Walter Jon Williams - I really liked this novel. A well written, proper cyberpunk romp avoiding all of the clichés that still reads fresh. You got your badass protag, his equally badass lover slash bodyguard (she actually reminds me of Molly from Neuromancer and given that this novel was published in 1986 and Neuromancer in '84, I am not sure who stole from whom), crime syndicates, corpos from beyond the gravity well, it's all there.
And as I said the novel is not dated both in terms of character interactions and technology used, which is no small feat after going through half a dozen cyberpunk "classics" that read like something out of the Stone Age.
>>23187666
Why would you mix classics with absolute dreck?

>>23187669
>LITRPG Edition
Seriously?

>>23187535
>uncomfortable
Sacrifices have to be made for thottery.

[Anonymous No.23188126]

>>23188078
>>23188098
Do you think GRRM will ever finish the series?

[Anonymous No.23188129]

>>23188126
No.

[Anonymous No.23188220]

>>23188115
Would you please stop avatarfagging with your goon folder?

[Anonymous No.23188233]

>>23188129
Alas!
Do you think he has trouble sleeping on his bed made out of gold because of that?

>>23188220
No, why would I?

[Anonymous No.23188267]

>>23187635
It's not your favourite but you ordered it

[Anonymous No.23188411]

>>23188115
Bobiverse?
Junkyard pirate?
Silo?

[Anonymous No.23188441]

>>23187666
>>23187669
I wanna see the opposite, the stuff /SFFG/ doesn't recommend

[Anonymous No.23188461]

Damn, someone got tilted by females of the human species. But I am still looking for recs so I'll repost here.

Let me continue lamenting the current state of sf and my inability to find anything worth reading. But before I start I gotta ask - who the fuck writes those "best new science fiction and fantasy" lists? I am amazed at how bad (and cultish) those are.

Anyway, onwards and upwards:

Hardwired by Walter Jon Williams - I really liked this novel. A well written, proper cyberpunk romp avoiding all of the clichés that still reads fresh. You got your badass protag, his equally badass lover slash bodyguard (she actually reminds me of Molly from Neuromancer and given that this novel was published in 1986 and Neuromancer in '84, I am not sure who stole from whom), crime syndicates, corpos from beyond the gravity well, it's all there.
And as I said the novel is not dated both in terms of character interactions and technology used, which is no small feat after going through half a dozen cyberpunk "classics" that read like something out of the Stone Age.

>>23188411
>Bobiverse
Disgusting onions slop. It was just so off-putting.


>>23188411
>Silo
Nice premise, read the first novel but it didn't really catch my fancy.
How's the TV show? And do you have any other post-apoc recommendations?

>>23188411
>Junkyard pirate
I'll give this one a try, thank you.

>>23188441
Walter Longmire series by Craig Johnson.
Peek boomer neo-western, completely devoid of science fiction. With the usual "Bear-shits-inna-woods" Injun sidekick.
It's good, really.

[Anonymous No.23188471]

Man everytime I come to this thread on a weekend there's a new attention seeker talking about how hard it is to read a book

[Anonymous No.23188487]

>>23188471
Reading is hard Negative Nancy, I am doing my best here.

[Anonymous No.23188598]

>>23187567

It's dumb not to read the original works first, especially if you're WRITING. Nonetheless there are plenty of fanfic authors whose prose and standpoint is pretty similar to Wildbow if not better in some respects. The appeal of fanfic is that you already know you're a fan of the characters/setting so you're not making as much of a leap of faith assuming it's tagged as canon compliant and/or rated highly by committed fans. Although keep in mind I do read plenty of stuff aside from fanfiction.

[Anonymous No.23188620]

Reminder to read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.23188641]

The most beautiful, varied and difficult prose in fantasy? Tolkien, Le Guin, Wolfe, Peake, old guys like Lord Dunsany, maybe Bakker, Hobb, Williams. Who else?

[Anonymous No.23188700]

>>23188641
Bakker.

[Anonymous No.23188731]

Books about an overpowered ubermensch conquering and overcoming?

[Anonymous No.23188739]

>>23188731
My diary desu.

[Anonymous No.23188780]

>>23186557
She saved the multiverse is what she did. She was a brave Bet parahuman. And in this thread, Khepri is a hero. End of story.

[Anonymous No.23188850]

[Anonymous No.23188859]

>>23188641
E. R. Eddison

[Anonymous No.23188871]

>>23186539
Besides Avatar, what fantasy handles elemental magic/powers well, especially if each element has secondary abilities like earthbending and metalbending, lavabending, and seismic sense?

[Anonymous No.23189037]

Finally finished the shitty Rama sequels.
Reading Xenocide after reading Speaker for the Dead years ago and it's cleansing my soul.

[Anonymous No.23189066]

Just finished RoEP. I really liked it. The lack of focus on character development is good for an autist like me.
Wade and Beihai did nothing wrong. Well, Wade did one thing wrong (not killing Cheng Xin)

[Anonymous No.23189180]

>>23189037
>>23189066
Oh yea, faggots? Well I just finished pic related and I liked it more than you queers liked your books.

[Anonymous No.23189186]

>>23189066
Do you have any interest in reading the Redemption of Time, which is set in that universe?
>>/lit/thread/23057625#p23057670

[Anonymous No.23189204]

>>23189186
Eh, fuck it, why not. I bought ball lightning too, but it hasn't arrived.
I liked deaths' end, Cheng Xin being frustrating ragebait is, to me at least, good writing, because I'm pretty sure she was supposed to be. 2/5 isn't exactly a glowing review though, lol. Have you read it?

[Anonymous No.23189235]

>>23189037
Considering the time skips, it feels really appropriate to read the main Ender books years apart from each other.

[Anonymous No.23189241]

>>23188731
Dune, desu.

[Anonymous No.23189269]

>>23189235
>Ender's Game - 15 years old
>Speaker for the Dead - 25 years old
>Xenocide - 32 years old
I don't think I'm waiting years for the next one though, I don't think I have that long.

[Anonymous No.23189330]

>>23189204
I wrote that and several hundred others that I've posted here, so yes, I've read it.

[Anonymous No.23189336]

>>23189330
Got it. Thanks anon. If I end up reading it I'll leave a review here for you.

[Anonymous No.23189354]

Bros it's right behind me isn't it? The head on a pole...

[Anonymous No.23189383]

Recommend me ummmmm books with cute girls.
Honestly I can't think of anything specific right now but I'll check out anything with waifus in them.

[Anonymous No.23189428]

>>23189383
Reverend Insanity has a cute girl(mtf)

[Anonymous No.23189434]

>>23189428
gross

[Anonymous No.23189444]

>>23189428
It speaks. Gross.

[Anonymous No.23189472]

reverend insanity is a good read if you can stomach translated works from chinese and like villain protagonists. Too bad the webnovel never finished.

[Anonymous No.23189478]

>>23189472
Because translation from a different language can often make the prose weird I thought

[Anonymous No.23189485]

>>23189478
Chinese grammatical structure is quite similar to english though

[Anonymous No.23189493]

How does Fang Yuan from Reverend Insanity handle Fang Runin? How would their personalities conflict? They're both villain protagonists from a book written by a chinese person one aimed at western audiences and the other at eastern. Both have Fang as a last name. One is a philosophical warrior poet who is very selfish whereas the other is an angry warlord who makes bad decisions and is addicted to drugs.
Poppy War vs Reverend Insanity

[Anonymous No.23189514]

>>23189472
>>23189478
it's not really a translation issue with RI, the quality of writing within it gets joked about on the chinese side of the internet too

[Anonymous No.23189529]

>>23189493
Fang Yuan is willing to do anything to cooperate as long as it benefits him, but plans for betrayal the second there's no further long-term gain. He's also used to being on the back foot and losing all his power base and rebuilding it stronger than ever.

[Anonymous No.23189543]

>>23186667
I dropped Martial World simply because the main character became a complete charisma void and stopped being remotely unique.
Like in the beginning, some shitter kid lucking into a powerful technique and trying to leverage it is entertaining, but later in the series he's just becomes a completely generic bugman protagonist and it gets boring.

[Anonymous No.23189583]

>>23189543
Read until he leaves his world for other planets.

[Anonymous No.23189809]

>>23189180
YA slop larping as pagan literature.

[Anonymous No.23189811]

>>23187237
gonna read tenebrium

[Anonymous No.23189953]

Never in my life has a fictional character made me want to throttle their fucking neck. Fucking traitors.

[Anonymous No.23189956]

>>23189953
I don't understand how anyone could finish the first book and then desire to read a second.

[Anonymous No.23189960]

>>23189956
I don't like dropping books, what made you stop reading?

[Anonymous No.23189969]

Are there any fantasy books about actual outlaws? i.e people that anyone can and are encouraged to kill if they're found?

[Anonymous No.23190003]

I've taken some heavy inspiration for my magic system from Mage The Ascension and it's 9 Spheres but in an effort to apply it I've hit a roadblock in several departments
>How magic manifests in people
>Who in particular can learn magic or obtain it through birthright
>In Mage the Consensus acts as a built in power scaling device for magic, but in a fantasy setting its not needed so I don't have a baked in way to limit the power of characters who can use magic
I have an idea for how to lay these Spheres out in a type of axis where some are more hard coded systems and others more soft but I still have fundamental issues with the magic system as a whole I need to contend with

[Anonymous No.23190050]

>>23189960
It's already a depressing slog where the protagonist is already constantly abused, but I stopped reading when he took a shine to the brown scientist lady and she opened her door right after having sex

[Anonymous No.23190061]

>>23190050
Oh kek, I forgot about that. It doesn't turn into a cuck thing. Almost the opposite, he gets over his crush on the doctor and gets with another chick.

That being said yes it's fucking depressing. Gut wrenching dynamics in these books.

>mfw the hobbled and mutilated slave girl translator paws at the hole in her chest with her hands that had been cut open from web to wrist.

[Anonymous No.23190084]

is the whole Solar Cycle worth reading? or should I just read BotNS and stop there?

[Anonymous No.23190102]

Who the FUCK keeps deleting titties in the thread?

[Anonymous No.23190105]

>>23190003
Ah I just realized I'm in the wrong thread and can't delete the post, apologies

[Anonymous No.23190104]

>>23188620
are you the real Bakker tranny?? If so, then we are in the presence of royalty!

[Anonymous No.23190111]

>>23186539
Is there actually any good modern fantasy out there? I've found that people recommend novels for absolutely asinine reasons making their recommendations utterly unreliable. The Bound and the Broken seems to be one of the modern greats, for example.

[Anonymous No.23190115]

>>23190105
/tg/ brothers are always welcome. also, how come mage never get any novels like vampire and werewolf did?

[Anonymous No.23190116]

>>23189383
there is the cinnamon bun books on royal road. only reason I even started listening to those books is because I needed a palate cleanser after watching ahsoka

[Anonymous No.23190121]

>>23190111
james islington is p good

[Anonymous No.23190126]

>>23190115
Thanks fren, from what I understand Mage is just unpopular compared to the big 2 from WoD, and desu I kind of get it considering Mage's actual game mechanics are EXTREMELY technical and expects players to have a high level of resourcefulness and ingenuity whereas Vamp and Wolf aren't that complicated.
Not to mention that WoD series in general is pretty bloated, I only just found out about Mummy and Demon were even a thing

[Anonymous No.23190152]

>>23190111
There's modern fantasy, and then there's "modern fantasy".

Any book with a cover like that, a boring artsy shape, is part of the "modern fantasy" trend.

[Elephant Anon !!oBrZEE4NIVW No.23190158]

Fantasysisters... I finally found it.
Get the fuck in here

>>23190066

[Anonymous No.23190179]

Discworld should be required reading. Rincewind, Vimes, Death, take whoever and just throw it at kids. These books should be more popular.

[Anonymous No.23190180]

>>23190179
Literally the only reason they're as popular as they are is because they ARE required reading in a lot of Commonwealth school curriculum.

[Anonymous No.23190183]

>>23190179
despite being good on their own the more you're familiar with fantasy at large the more you'll get out of discworld books. also, those covers are beautiful.

[Anonymous No.23190187]

>>23189953
I see you and I raise you.

[Anonymous No.23190188]

Read Aching God, loved it, read Sin Eater... Jesus Christ. This man brims with self-hating misandrist energy and it was uncomfortable to read. And speaking as a gay twink he did not do a good job with Chalca as representation either and I usually enjoy those types of characters. The guy's initial encounter was not respecting an ostensibly hetero man's boundaries and making him uncomfortable like a stereotypical homo creep and we're supposed to take his side when Kennah smacks him for it?

[Anonymous No.23190197]

I liked this, any similar recommendations besides the sequel?

[Anonymous No.23190199]

>>23190187
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!

[Anonymous No.23190218]

Congratulations, sffg.

[Anonymous No.23190220]

>>23190218
Imagining einsteins hairy sagging nutsack dragging over an ibm keyboard

[Anonymous No.23190227]

Will you nerds ever stop sucking bakker's cock?

[Anonymous No.23190231]

>>23190227
I never got past the first page

[Anonymous No.23190242]

>>23190231
I never got past the first 30 seconds of the audio book

[Anonymous No.23190263]

>>23190084
You'll never know unless you read it

[Anonymous No.23190265]

>>23190084
Long and Short are both solid, and less obtuse than BOTNS.

[Anonymous No.23190268]

>>23190265
bro look at those two little guys having fun

[Anonymous No.23190273]

>>23189809
No? Nothing YA about it at all. It's extremely violent. Why would you lie like this? Bizarre.

[Anonymous No.23190307]

>>23190188
How good is the horror part of the books? Are there atmospheric vibes like in ruins in Thief or Dark Messiah of M&M games?

[Anonymous No.23190310]

What to read for alien/nonhuman waifu, or better yet waifus? Preferably something that is actually good and not smut

[Anonymous No.23190320]

>>23190307
Aching God has an amazing sense of creeping dread and moments of horror, Sin Eater not so much and it soured me on the series enough that I didn't read Idols Fall. I do recommend Aching God though if you are in to horror fantasy, just pretend the other books don't exist.

[Anonymous No.23190341]

>>23188731
Unironically Conan

[Anonymous No.23190472]

I finally got to watching that Shadow of the torturer x Dark souls video that was posted here, and I have to say that it's probably the best book review I have ever seen. Everyone should review books like that.
>No Spoilers
>interesting visuals
>well written
>beautiful music
>calming narration and a retarded accent
After seeing it I rewatched it again just for the music and I noticed that he actually foreshadowed the ending during the segment about the artwork. It made me wanna watch some more spoiler free book reviews so recommend me someone.

[Anonymous No.23190496]

>>23190197
Definitely Vinges deepness in the sky if you haven't read it yet. It's very similar but with a less dark athmosphere.

[Anonymous No.23190511]

>>23186557
Taylor did nothing wrong. Also, while 90% of fanfic is hot garbage, there's a few that are really, really good. Like better than Sanderson slop, at least, and I know you fags read it. Also, with the amount of aspiring writers here, I'm really surprised there's little discussion on fanfic: the gateway drug of writing.

[Anonymous No.23190653]

>>23189969
Yeah there's loads but you might as well read Water Margin first

[Anonymous No.23190800]

what am i in for?

[Anonymous No.23190833]

>>23190511
>>23186557
got any more recs? Underside of Gotham was good

[Anonymous No.23190851]

Worm was pretty good for how much of it I've read and I've picked up most of the plot from reading fanfics and only read 40% of the entire novel according to my ebook reader. I really love the series and most of the fanfic I read. I guess that must mean I have low standards for fanfic.

[Anonymous No.23190858]

Stepping on Worm by Perfect Lionheart

[Anonymous No.23190946]

>>23187507
Strong definitely, silent yes and no. From other characters perspective he is an intimidating man of few words, from his own pov he is rather verbose.

[Anonymous No.23190961]

>>23190084
Definitely worth it. I’ve already read BOTNS, starting with Short Sun soon.

[Anonymous No.23190967]

>>23190472
Could you please post it here? Or link to it.

[Anonymous No.23190991]

>>23190800
>Sirens of Titan
Kino
>More than Human
Underrated, but dated
>Canticle for Lebowitz
Nothing special. Revered by the worst sort of people, don't bother reading it
>Dendelion Wine
Blunt-force sentimentalism, not scifi
>Fahrenheit 451
Mid
>The Stars my Destination
Kino

[Anonymous No.23191007]

>>23189037
Xenocide any good then? I read Ender's game like 2 years ago and finished Speaker for the Dead last year. Speaker was very different but overall it wasn't too bad I guess

[Anonymous No.23191058]

>>23191007
Maybe it's just because I read the Rama sequels and my standards have dropped (especially as far as characterization and plot goes) but I'm enjoying it so far. It has that same feeling I got from Speaker for the Dead, which is that it's really effectively exploring the consequences of its scifi ideas on a human level.
Even though I usually just enjoy big dumb scifi ideas on their own and don't need an effective human story (ala Asimov), I'm enjoying it a lot. Would recommend, especially if you're wondering what happens to everyone after Speaker - it's not leaving me disappointed like the Rama sequels, and I don't see how it could.

[Anonymous No.23191080]

>>23191007
I will add that if you liked Ender's Game a lot better than Speaker, don't expect Xenocide to return to form. I like Speaker a whole lot better, but I'm weird in that I enjoy when a sequel goes in a wholly unexpected or even contradictory direction if it does it well.
Maybe wait a few years, or try Ender's Shadow, I hear that's good.

[Anonymous No.23191090]

Empire of the Vampire #2: the decision to introduce a secondary PoV where it's all about a schizophrenic woman vampire parading around being a useless snot (but I repeat myself) is really dragging this book down.

[Anonymous No.23191125]

[Anonymous No.23191132]

Man this general sucks a fat one. I'm almost finished with Arrows of Time. I don't know WHAT the fuck is going on with the physics so I treat the external world as fantasy and I want to see how it ends already.

[Anonymous No.23191135]

Any recommend books like Final Fantasy especially something similar to Final Fantasy 5?

[Anonymous No.23191179]

>>23191135
The fuck does that even mean? Why can't you stupid motherfuckers point to a specific element you liked? Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.23191182]

>>23191090
>the decision to introduce a secondary PoV
damn son
being from gabriel's pov is why book 1 is even enjoyable

also how the fuck does that work with the way the story is told? just a simple yes or no if you would humor me:
does liathe get captured (or revealed to have been) by that vampire jailer that gabe is narrating to?

[Anonymous No.23191183]

>>23188641
Vance.

[Anonymous No.23191225]

Any modern pulpy fantasy or sci fi you guys would recommend?

[Anonymous No.23191234]

>>23191179
world threaten plotline I guess

[Anonymous No.23191272]

>>23191225
Undying mercenaries for sci-fy.
There's 20 books out at about 400 pages each. The premise is in the near future a fleet from an empire that controls most of the galaxy shows up and annexes the world.
In order to fund their economy humanity creates mercenary companies with machines that allow you to regrow people after they die.
You follow James McGill, a lecherous retard from georgia who will fuck anything human or human-adjacent that he can.
He joins up with one of the dregs of the various merc companies and goes on adventures to alien worlds. Most of these adventures involve him ignoring orders and somehow ending up on top in the end.
The over-arching plot is about improving Earth's place in the empire from annoying-shitholistan to annoying-but-valuable-shitholistan

[Anonymous No.23191292]

>>23191225
>>23191272
Seconding Undying Mercenaries. It's extremely pulpy and, dare I say, fun.

[Anonymous No.23191299]

>>23191090
I shan't be reading this one then.

[Anonymous No.23191308]

>>23191225
I like Poor Man's Fight for pulpy military scifi, nothing else really scratched the itch for me.

[Anonymous No.23191324]

>>23191225
It depends on your definition of 'pulpy.' Because pulp fantasy would just be Sword & Sorcery and there's plenty of modern S&S to read.

[Anonymous No.23191333]

>>23190833
Here are some actually good Worm fics.

Completed stuff: The Postdiluvian Road, Impurity, Intercession

Ongoing or on hiatus but not dead: Camera Shy, The Third Door, Good People

[Anonymous No.23191334]

>>23190111
The Highwayman Kennedy Thornwick by Lisa Kuznak.
The book has almost no reviews and it's probably the best fantasy novel I've read in the past 5 years. A friend recommended it or I never would have heard of it. I'm about 3/4 of the way through. Seems all the good new SFF novels are hidden deep in the Amazon cesspit. Anyway, it's a flintlock fantasy about guys who bust out of prison and do crime.

[Anonymous No.23191345]

>>23191334
>by Lisa Kuznak

[Anonymous No.23191348]

>>23191345
Her kooze is your znak

[Anonymous No.23191353]

>>23191182
yes

[Anonymous No.23191410]

>>23190310
Need

[Anonymous No.23191416]

>>23191324
Anything you recommend?
The plentifulness is nice, but...

[Anonymous No.23191460]

>>23191416
For short story collections:
Neither Beg Nor Yield (this just came out and is a great starting point for S&S newbies)
Worlds Beyond Worlds by John Fultz
Thune's Vision and The Eye of Sounnu by Schuyler Hernstrom
Necromancy in Nilztiria by D.M. Ritzlin
Rakefire and Other Stories by Jason Carney
In Savage Lands by Jason Thummel
Return of the Sword by Rogue Blades
Rogues of Merth by Robert Zoltan

[Anonymous No.23191511]

>>23190800
I love The October Country.

[Anonymous No.23191512]

>>23191460
Than you, my caucasoid.

[Anonymous No.23191654]

>>23191512
And if you want some post-apoc pulp check out Riders of the Fire by Steve Dilks.

[Anonymous No.23191717]

What does everyone think of the Poppy War trilogy here?

[Anonymous No.23191746]

>>23191717
More like the Poopy Whore trilogy.

[Anonymous No.23191761]

Shitty formatting aside, did I do well?

[Anonymous No.23191782]

>>23190967
here you go
https://youtu.be/A9sMKlF5MK8

It starts slow but it ramps up a few minutes in

[Anonymous No.23191958]

>>23191654
Warm regards to you.
I am thinking of writing those kinds of stories, but aside from past editions of 'The Shadow' and some Raymond Chandler stuff I haven't been able to find many candidates.

[Anonymous No.23191969]

If you kinda like Spanish history, The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay is pretty neat.

[Anonymous No.23192113]

>>23191969
bro if you like spanish history read Los Episodios Nacionales by Benito Perez Galdós, it's wholesome as fuck

[Anonymous No.23192173]

>>23191080
I recently read Ender's Game and Speaker back to back.
NTA, it seemed to me that Speaker was a much more feminine book, if that makes any sense. Didn't care for it, so thanks for the heads up about Xenocide.

[Anonymous No.23192203]

>>23192173
>if that makes any sense
No, it really doesn't.

[Anonymous No.23192228]

>tried lotr, it bored me to tears
>read asoaif, it was a self indulgent mess
>read witcher, found it to be an embarrassing, dull mess
>about 10 percent though the darkness that came before and I want to eat my kindle
Maybe I just don't like epic fantasy.

[Anonymous No.23192279]

>>23192228
Do you like fantasy at all?

[Anonymous No.23192301]

BDSM has been an utter disaster for the fantasy genre.

[Anonymous No.23192337]

>>23192301
Terry Goodkind is going to come back from the dead to haunt you now.

[Anonymous No.23192344]

>>23192228
Maybe fantasy is just not your cup of tea?

[Anonymous No.23192348]

>>23192344
what the fuck is this creature

[Anonymous No.23192349]

>>23192301
Kushiel's Dart is good

[Anonymous No.23192352]

>>23192349
ohhh myyy

[Anonymous No.23192354]

>>23191969
>>23192113
Or the Alatriste series by Arturo Pérez-Reverte.

>>23192348
She's Brazilian you silly goose.

[Anonymous No.23192394]

>>23191782
Fairly clever vid. Not surprised that he only got 700 views lol

[Anonymous No.23192717]

>read the first six books of the Riftwar series
>it sucks
Raymond E Feist sucks

[Anonymous No.23192825]

>>23192717
it took 6 books to make sure?

[Anonymous No.23192837]

>>23192717
the 22nd book is pretty good

[Anonymous No.23192845]

>>23192344
Disgusting

[Anonymous No.23192959]

thoughts on Le Guin?

[Anonymous No.23192994]

>>23191225
Man I wanna try and find good modern SFF in general.

[Anonymous No.23193008]

My wife.

[Anonymous No.23193013]

>>23192994
That depends on what you consider "good", I've posted tons of what I consider to be.

[Anonymous No.23193016]

>>23192959
A great author. Do you want to know more?

[Anonymous No.23193030]

>>23193016
what is your favorite story by her?

[Anonymous No.23193092]

>>23193030
NTA, I am half way through Dispossed and its good

[Anonymous No.23193107]

just finished Lord of Light. I enjoyed the themes of religion and using it on the masses, and the theme of Do We Have a Self or Not, but man it was a bit of a confusing read, kinda like a fever dream almost. So many different characters to follow, all getting different bodies and then even different names. So many places. the book was original, that's for sure, but not as good as I had hoped. I was also expecting more Buddhist tenants and philosophy and instead I got humans playing as gods battling each other. The battle scenes were pretty cool, I will admit. onto Burning Chrome by Gibson now.. I need some short stories to chew on

[Anonymous No.23193114]

>>23191761
very nice. truth shines!

[Anonymous No.23193119]

>>23191782
Thank you

[Anonymous No.23193150]

>>23193030
Favorite story, as in short fiction? I'm not sure. There's a lot of choices. Favorite novels are The Dispossessed and The Left Hand of Darkness. I enjoy her science fiction a lot more than her fantasy personally.

[Anonymous No.23193154]

>>23192959
She's great. Her fiction and also her writing craft book "Steering the Craft" are well worth reading.

>>23193030
Changing Planes (a short story anthology of hers) is great. I still think of a particular story in it often. The Wizard of Earthsea series in general are classics, but the final novel was particularly good.

>>23186539
I'm also going to again shill by new book for anyone interested - a Lewis & Clark style adventure across the post ecological collapse ruins of America. Gene Wolfe's "Book of the New Sun" meets "A Canticle for Leibowitz".

[Anonymous No.23193210]

>>23192825
It took two, but my autism compelled me to read six.
>>23192837
Big if true

[Anonymous No.23193242]

>>23193154
How are your sales going?

[Anonymous No.23193337]

>>23193154
waiting for my libgen copy :)

[Anonymous No.23193344]

>>23193337
You're joking, but it's free in Kindle Unlimited, so it's rather easy to grab and upload.

[Anonymous No.23193346]

>>23193242
I can't complain, more than I expected but nothing crazy. past the initial surge now but still 1-2 buys every day or so and consistent reads on KU. I priced it at the Amazon base-line so basically made enough for a nice meal out with the family, but I plan to pay much of it back to my betareaders in thanks for their time and support.

Personally the quantitative really doesn't motivate me with writing. I do it for the craft/connection and to have the joy of entertaining a bro - him telling me something I labored over was kino is worth far more to me than a mere 2 bucks.

>>23193337
Email me and I'll send you a free PDF you cheeky shit: [e-mail]

[Anonymous No.23193355]

>>23193346
Just messing with you, I support fellow /lit/fags

[Anonymous No.23193378]

>>23193154
is it pozzed? cute book

[Anonymous No.23193404]

>>23193355
Basebasedbasedbased

>>23193378
I don't think so, no sir

[Anonymous No.23193407]

>>23193378
Yeah

[Anonymous No.23193437]

>>23193378
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/6332558603

>sharing a discord server with the guy who wrote this book
>who are for all some reason pedophiles.
>Captain’s unrelenting horniness. Dude needed to get laid more.
>Moralist religion seems to be Presbyterianism without the optics
>Improvidence’s ending sort of drops the ball,
>It’s sort of like choking on a penny when you knock back an espresso shot.
>not being worth the mental real estate
>would’ve dropped it if it wasn’t espresso-short and I vowed to complete it for this review.
>give Improvidence the slip.

[Anonymous No.23193468]

>>23193437

[Anonymous No.23193496]

>>23193468
So this is your typical reader, huh.

[Anonymous No.23193537]

How do I appreciate Dune more? I wanna Dunemaxxx. Gonna watch all the movies when I finish.

[Anonymous No.23193539]

>>23193537
maybe wear a suit and retain/recycle all your fluids so you can appreciate water more

[Anonymous No.23193550]

THE PULPSLOP ODYSSEY CONTINUES WITH BOOK TWO.
I like these minimalist covers. This one isn't particularly good, but others are.

[Anonymous No.23193554]

>>23193468
>trans girl
There's no such thing.

[Anonymous No.23193557]

>>23193437
>goodreads
lol anon. Come on now.

[Anonymous No.23193563]

>>23193539
You know they shit in the stillsuits right? Imagine taking a big shit in your stillsuit while trekking across the desert and having shit all down your legs and in your ass and all up in your taint, all while sweating your ass off too. Oh God, the chafing!

[Anonymous No.23193690]

>>23193557
It doesn't matter where's it's posted because they have a personal connection. I do find the discrediting of someone in the same discord server as the author to be amusing though.

[Anonymous No.23193716]

>>23191460
Thunes Vision is kino

[Anonymous No.23193720]

>>23190310
Give recs NOW

[Anonymous No.23193742]

>>23193716
Hernstrom in general is kino.

[Anonymous No.23193955]

>>23193716
>>23193742
today I learned about DMR Books.. nice

[Anonymous No.23193961]

>>23191761
>can prevent the creation of life
Seems appropriate for God but I think it might be under cost.

[Anonymous No.23194024]

>>23191782
>As I did mention, the chronicle is recounted by Severian, the principal figure, and his outlook dath contribute an extra stratum of intricacy and ambivalence, forsooth, as he dath contemplate upon events with a certain measure of subjectivity.
nigga what

[Anonymous No.23194034]

>>23193742
>>23193716
My friend who recommended >>23191334
Is a big Hernstrom/DMR fan, fwiw.
>>23193550
I've been meaning to read his books but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Should I?

[Anonymous No.23194072]

>>23188641
Wolfe has something that Tolkien never attempted: succintness. The Book of The New Sun feels like it takes an afternoon to read, whereas The Lord of The Rings happens in real-time. Love them both desu

[Anonymous No.23194074]

>>23193563
Clearly you're not built for that life.

[Anonymous No.23194086]

>>23190111
as the other anon said james islington is pretty good. i also quite like richard swan's empire of the wolf though imo the first book is best (despite having the lowest rating of the three)
michael r fletcher has very interesting and unique ideas but his execution is often not that great but i enjoy all his shit

[Anonymous No.23194096]

Is Peter Hamilton retarded? Are people who like Peter Hamilton retarded? So far Salvation has been one singular chapter of interesting setup then someone says "how did you two meet" and the book goes on a tangent of their backstory for like half the book's length and none of it is interesting at all
The author also loves name dropping products, brands and places like it's a replacement for actually writing something interesting. The book is FULL of shallow namedrops of random shit for no reason at all. There's also cyclical gender changing humans with sie/hir pronouns and it's as annoying as it sounds
My dad who claims to be a scifi connoisseur recommended this trash. I think he might just be a surface level scifi normie

[Anonymous No.23194111]

>>23194096
>I think he might just be a surface level scifi normie
Try Lem on him. It's the litmus test of surface level scifi normies.

[Anonymous No.23194126]

>>23186539
Almost finished reading this due to the small amount of hype over the netflix adaptation. Wasn't interested enough to look into what it was till now. I'd say it's kinda redpilled,but Obama liked it supposedly. I guess people take what they want depending on what they want to do.
Near analogies seem to make it relevant to the present.

[Anonymous No.23194132]

>>23194126
pic related

[Anonymous No.23194185]

>>23194096
Do authors that do product placement in their books get paid for it or is something wrong with them?

[Anonymous No.23194220]

>>23193468
this would probably be a great read if you consider it lynchian horror

[Anonymous No.23194233]

>>23192173
Fellas, is it gay to bring peace instead of commit genocide?

[Anonymous No.23194277]

Just finished pic related along with all the short stories Niven wrote in the same universe. Started with What good is a glass dagger? and liked it enough to read all the rest.
Anything in a similar vein? not necessarily with mana running out, though that is good too, but a
similar feel to the stories in general. Now going through the Dying Earth series

[Anonymous No.23194295]

>>23194185
Something is deeply wrong with anyone who wants to write for a living, especially in this day and age.

[Anonymous No.23194297]

>>23194295
Yeah, but is something else wrong with them?

[Anonymous No.23194313]

>>23194277
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.23194317]

Any archive for old Asimov magazines? read a ton when I was a kid, would like to go through some again

[Anonymous No.23194320]

Some very funny conversations, meaning the backwards logical arguments, but everything inbetween just felt like filler. Having done my fair share of acid I can relate to the feeling Sheckley is trying to get across, but that doesn't excuse the weakness of the book.
For comic sf stick to Hitchhiker's Guide.

[Anonymous No.23194348]

>>23194317
https://www.luminist.org/archives/SF/

[Anonymous No.23194357]

>>23193955
DMR is based. The guy who runs it is also a decent writer himself.
>>23194034
>I've been meaning to read his books but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Should I?
So long as you know what you're getting into; cheesy and ridiculous pulp that is aware it's cheesy and ridiculous, but not in a gay ironic way. I previously said it's like an adult Adventure Time (if you know what that is) and still stand by that.

[Anonymous No.23194366]

>>23194357
Sometimes cheesy and ridiculous hits the spot. Cool, I'll give them a read next time I'm in the mood for that.

[Anonymous No.23194374]

>>23194348
thanks

[Anonymous No.23194377]

>>23194366
To give some perspective on how ridiculous yet fun the series is; I'm barely into the second book but so far Dan from Florida and his barbarian pal have run into a group of friendly demons in a swamp, smoked fantasy weed with them, then they all went on an adventure together to pull a sentient sword from a giant stone crocodile's head.

[Anonymous No.23194393]

>>23191969
Lions of Al-Rassan, while paiting a beautiful picture of 11th century Iberia, is nevertheles the work of a typical anglo in love with an idealized, naive version of Al-Andalus.
Kay paints their decadence as borderline positive because some vague sense of "tolerance", while slandering the christian and the moors for being "fanatics", in the most blatantly onion-faced, californian reading of a historical situation I have ever seen, ignoring the deep complexities and contrasts that existed within andalusian society that often could be as violent and cruel as it was "tolerant". His main character has basically no relevance for the plot at all, what should have been her greatest moment is instead given to her father, and so far it seems that her mission is just getting railed by whatever powerful man appears in the page.
Genuinely good concept ruined by borderline girly inclinations. I am amazed Kay is actually a grown ass man and not a chick in her 20s.

[Anonymous No.23194420]

>finally fell for the malazan meme
>get to end of the second book
>High Fist in Aren who was just established to be a coward who wouldn’t leave his walls, and who knows relief is coming if he just waits, suddenly decides to sally his entire army because reasons
>entire mostly intact army all willingly tosses away their weapons to surrender to the tribal army that just spent six months raping, torturing and horribly killing every Malazan man, woman, child and baby they could get their hands on, because the commander they all hate just ordered it
Do people actually think this series is well written?

[Anonymous No.23194498]

I've started a job with some insanely long hours where I've got nothing to do but listen to things and podcasts have started to bore me. Could I get any suggestions for some Audiobook content on the Fantasy side of things?

I'm always a total sucker for shit that has the "Farmboy to Hero with a magic sword" kinda thing, Knights and Hero stuff with swords and sorcery and all that. I've really fallen off the wagon on my lit knowledge so I'm not sure where to start after wrapping up Wheel of Time a while back.

>Dumb anime bullshit type novels also welcome

[Anonymous No.23194536]

>>23194498
Ever tried conan the barbarian? It's actually pretty damn good.

[Anonymous No.23194558]

>>23194536
Can't say that I have, I fully admit I tend to be a bit more biased towards 'Tropey' stories with some good ol' schlock to it. I actually don't know much about Conan, where would you say to start?

[Anonymous No.23194563]

>>23194558
For an audio book check this shit out. If you're into conan, check out Solomon Kane another of Howard's books set in a diferent time and place of conan but full of even more mystic and strange adventures.
Conan is more sword and sorcery with some elegant writing it surprised me when I 1st got into it.

[Anonymous No.23194565]

>>23194558
No reason not to just get The Complete Chronicles of Conan.

[Anonymous No.23194590]

>>23191225
This is excellent...

[Anonymous No.23194600]

>>23194420
I think you might be misremembering something, anon. Pormqual refused to help Coltaine which lead to latter and the 7th getting massacred.

[Anonymous No.23194676]

>>23190310
Worthless niggers

[Anonymous No.23194725]

>>23190310
>>23191410
>>23193720
>>23194676
We don't read miscegenation slop here.

[Anonymous No.23194761]

>>23194600
No, that’s what I’m saying. He’s established as being a coward who refuses to sortie, which is fine, but then the next day he marches his entire army out because Wormtongue tells him to, and then they all willingly surrender despite knowing they’ll be massacred because this guy they hate says so, even after the book jerked off how Malazan soldiers are so dangerous "because they’re allowed to think". It’s moronic.

[Anonymous No.23194787]

>>23190183
josh kirby was one of the greats, it's a pity that outside of his pratchett work there aren't a lot of high quality scans of his work

[Anonymous No.23194800]

Can anyone recommend a scifi or fantasy story with a setting with abnormal day/night cycles? Basically anything where a day lasts more than say, 48 hours, so people and the ecology have adapted for living through long periods of daytime and nighttime. Looking for some inspiration for my own story.

[Anonymous No.23194824]

>>23194800
I'm gonna need a bit more info to help you out.
Elaborate on this day night cycle lasting more than 48 hours. As in you fell in a rabbit hole and years go by but when you come back from the rabbit hole you're only gone for a few minutes? Is that right?

[Anonymous No.23194859]

>>23194800
That's basically anywhere near the poles on Earth. There's Asimov's Nightfall where it's always day and night in the apocalypse. Anything set on a tidally locked planet would qualify. If it's for the indigenous life there they wouldn't notice any difference. That'd only be for humans. A day on Venus lasts 234 Earth days.

[Anonymous No.23194861]

>>23194800
I think there's a bit in web shifters with this but I might be wrong, vaguely remember the christmas setpiece being set somewhere with permanent night

[Anonymous No.23194885]

>>23194824
Well I have two story ideas:

One's where vampires do some kind of The Matrix-like technique to put their whole continent (or the whole world? I haven't decided yet) under permanent night, but there's still humans in the area so they have to adjust as well as the plant and wildlife.

The other is a setting where a planet's axis is abruptly fucked with by magic and a full day lasts a fortnight, so 7 weeks of daytime and 7 weeks of nighttime.

I'm sure a lot of species of plants and animals would not survive this change in either setting, but I don't know the full ramifications.

Thanks for the responses.

[Anonymous No.23194907]

>>23194885
So you're looking for a book that emphasizes on time dilation? That's gonna be tough, I don't think I can help you but video games do that kind of stuff.
Go look at videos on a game called Outer Wilds. I think that's as close as I can get with the topic you're looking for.

[Anonymous No.23194950]

The MC in my fantasy book is a rapist wizard, but he makes sure that the women he rapes always cum a lot.

[Anonymous No.23194996]

>>23194885
Plants would die because of lack photosynthesis, then herbivores would die, then carnivores. No terrestrial life would remain.

[Anonymous No.23195325]

>>23191782
Wasted by ESL accent

[Anonymous No.23195371]

>>23194950
If she orgasms then it isn't rape.
That's the rule.

[Anonymous No.23195377]

>>23194950
if you are planning on self-publishing you should be aware that most outlets ban fantasy works that depict rape

[Anonymous No.23195796]

>>23193378
>asks if something is pozzed
>posts a pic of anime
>anime where a guy makes dresses, learns to do makeup, and loves little fancy dress dolls

[Anonymous No.23195800]

>>23194950
> I write the most generic kind of smut

[Anonymous No.23195809]

>>23194420
>Do people actually think this series is well written?
No, it has great heights but terrible lows. Characters and their motivations change from book to book depending on how Ericson wants the plot to progress. Everything is about getting the "characters" to the destination.

[Anonymous No.23195815]

>>23194761
>It’s moronic.
It's infuriating. You suffer with the characters all along the Chain of Dogs only to get to Aren and have the retarded Pormqual actions.

[Anonymous No.23195868]

I love the Thomas Covenant trilogy!
that is all.

[Anonymous No.23195897]

>>23195796
>>anime where a guy makes dresses, learns to do makeup, and loves little fancy dress dolls
Is the anime guy a tranny? Or gay? Is he black, feminist, sjw progressive liberal commie globalist, a cuck maybe or a religion faggot?

[Anonymous No.23195901]

>>23193013
I guess "good" in my eyes is "The description on the back doesn't make me roll my eyes"
Seriously if I have to see phrases like "A STUNNING TAKE DOWN OF THE PATRIARCHY" again...

[Anonymous No.23195915]

Also Anons you ARE getting this and Dangerous
Visions when they comes out next week right?

[Anonymous No.23195925]

>>23195915
>foreword by neil gaiman

[Anonymous No.23196025]

Serious question: Why does sci fi never deal with biological technology?
Compared to some gay shit like space ships, a house that can repair itself because it's alive just as long as you remember to feed it seems a lot better.

[Anonymous No.23196041]

Has anyone done Succession in a fantasy setting? Like, either a king or dark lord or whatever's shitty kids going through a political battle over control of the armies/kingdom?

[Anonymous No.23196047]

>>23196041
I'd find it very fucking hard to believe if they didn't.

[Anonymous No.23196050]

>>23196041
have you heard of a little book called a game of thrones?

[Anonymous No.23196068]

>>23187966
Read the short story collection. It's worth it.
>>23190102
Seethe
>>23190496
+1 for Vinge.

[Anonymous No.23196077]

>>23193154
Pedophile book by pedophile author
>>23194420
Just read one more.

[Anonymous No.23196078]

>>23196050
Oh yeah you're right I'm retarded. Isn't Game of Thrones more scheming and shit between the different houses though? I'm thinking more along the lines of all the in-fighting being within one group

[Anonymous No.23196081]

Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex by Larry Niven
https://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html

[Anonymous No.23196083]

>>23186539
>webnovels can't be ki-
https://www.scribblehub.com/series/660067/goblin-cave/

[Anonymous No.23196088]

Have litrpgs/xianxia finially taken over this general? Or is it still filled with boomer tier nytbs?

[Anonymous No.23196098]

>>23196078
To be more sincere kinda, there is some inter-family stuff but there's also obviously different factions too.
Accursed Kings which ASOIAF was heavily influenced by might be a better choice since that's about the House of Capet fighting/scheming over the french throne so it's more specifically within one family.
That's historical fiction mind which would also be my suggestion for where to look for more.
Jade City might fit but I haven't read enough to actually be sure.
>>23196088
most threads consist of some earnest questions, a few idiots making 20 loud posts about how they won't read, bakkerposting, the forced spam and one guy who keeps replying to everything with sword and sorcery recommendations.

[Anonymous No.23196100]

Anyone read the Gormenghast trilogy? Stumbled on to it a few days ago and it got great reviews. Seems interesting. Am 50 pages in or so and am enjoying it so far.

[Anonymous No.23196104]

>>23196098
Yeah I'm not really sure, I read the first GoT a few years back then got distracted, at this point I'm almost just waiting for GRRM to kick the bucket so I can go in knowing for a fact it won't end.

Will check out Accursed Kings and Jade City though, thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.23196240]

>>23188641
Clark Ashton Smith

[Anonymous No.23196262]

>>23196240
Based

[Anonymous No.23196296]

Thank goodness this piece of shit wrapped up quickly. What a load of juvenile junk.

[Anonymous No.23196303]

>>23196296
Calm down, Karen.

[Anonymous No.23196307]

>>23195809
Feels like it would have been better off being a bunch of blog posts with fantasy military campaign maps or something.

[Anonymous No.23196312]

>>23195815
I didn't mind him leaving Coltaine to die, of course it's meant to be but that's the established character, fine, but to then immediately 180 the Pormqual character into a field battle for plot convenience and turn the entire Malazan army into morons with literally 0 sense of self-preservation was embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.23196315]

>>23196312
*of course it's meant to be frustrating

[Anonymous No.23196320]

>>23196025
>hasn't seen Farspace
you must be 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.23196326]

>>23195868
It's 10 books total, not 3. And the Final Chronicles filter everyone

[Anonymous No.23196387]

>>23196326
Thomas Covenant only has two trilogies

[Anonymous No.23196548]

>>23193550
Just finished this and it was good.

[Anonymous No.23196597]

>>23196098
>most threads consist of some earnest questions, a few idiots making 20 loud posts about how they won't read, bakkerposting, the forced spam and one guy who keeps replying to everything with sword and sorcery recommendations.
Ah, so nothing has changed from the last 5 years... good good.

[Anonymous No.23196603]

>>23196098
>and one guy who keeps replying to everything with sword and sorcery recommendations.
That's me.

[Anonymous No.23196648]

Has anyone here read any of Roger Zelazny's works? I was considering picking up Lord of Light, would y'all recommend it?

[Anonymous No.23196677]

>reading portal wars
>seems like semi decent webnovel self published type fantasy
>cuckshit not even halfway through the first book

[Anonymous No.23196690]

Started reading Red Rising because a friend bought it for me for my birthday and it’s just not good. The worldbuilding is ok, basically just a generic YA dystopia at a school for fucking gifted and talented. At least the caste system is based upon work and roles in society rather than fucking personality traits like some of these fucking series. Characters are sort of bland, plot is pretty thin if justifiable. Most of all, though, I hate the first person pov in present tense. I walk to the door and I open it. My wife stands there and cries. I dunno what it is I just can’t fucking stand present tense in writing.

[Anonymous No.23196704]

>>23196690
i tried it too and couldn't handle the first person present tense, it feels so awkward to read

[Anonymous No.23196709]

>>23186550
>tfw you’ll never bury your face in a topless space lady’s majestic bush
why live

[Anonymous No.23196768]

>>23196603
thank you for your service

[Anonymous No.23196781]

>>23194885
>One's where vampires do some kind of The Matrix-like technique to put their whole continent (or the whole world? I haven't decided yet) under permanent night, but there's still humans in the area so they have to adjust as well as the plant and wildlife.
Empire of the Vampire, anon.

[Anonymous No.23196810]

>>23186557
Wtf happened to western art? Why is it perpetually stuck at middle school doodle levels?

[Anonymous No.23196816]

>>23196648
I've only read Lord of Light and don't remember anything, but I know it didn't bore me to death. The concept itself was quite interesting.

[Anonymous No.23196817]

>>23193008
LONDON
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[Anonymous No.23196841]

>>23196704
Present tense in general is an awkward way of telling a story. When you tell a story to your friends or whoever, you use first person past. "I went to the shop and saw Elon Musk banging Kim Kardashian" or whatever. There are books I've read where the first person present actually works but that seems to be because the author knows how to make characters have a voice i.e American Psycho. Every word seems like it's actually coming from Patrick Bateman's mouth, and you can understand his worldview just from the way he talks. I don't get the same impression from Red Rising, it seems more like it's just some lobotomised cunt dictating his autobiography.

[Anonymous No.23196877]

>>23196648
>Has anyone here read any of Roger Zelazny's works?
Everything he's done is kinda dumb and shallow, but in a surprisingly based and fun way.

[Anonymous No.23196892]

>>23196709
she's not topless, she's got radiation-filtering pasties

[Anonymous No.23196994]

>>23196648
He's very good and LoL is his best work

[Anonymous No.23197059]

>>23196648
see >>23193107

[Anonymous No.23197128]

>>23194800
What have you got so far, anon? I'm writing something similar about a tidally locked world.
So far I have pale, short, stocky people living on the colder side of the habitable strip, and tall, lanky, dark people on the hot side. Those from the deep dark have incredible night vision but must wear eskimo goggles when they travel into the sunlands, and when at home often live underground to tap into geothermal vents for warmth. People on the hot side also have nictitating membranes over their eyes to protect from UV damage in direct sunlight.
Give me your ideas so that we both become richer

[Anonymous No.23197140]

What text can make you yearn for adventure?

[Anonymous No.23197575]

>>23196303
>one of the most seminal, celebrated works in modern fantasy
>run on sentences and adverbs out the ass
>so edgy an emo 16 year old would tell them to temper it
>first half is an exposition dump disguised as a fantasy novel
>every obstacle is solved by invoking a deity or mystical creature to open a portal or tell them where to go
>evil cousin spends several months building an army. Once elric eliminates the army, he goes after 2 hitherto unmentioned evil swords that will make him the most powerful creature in the universe
>turns out the evil cousin was being mind controlled, so elric feels free to let him take over while he abandons his beloved wife and country to find himself.
The lone bright spot is that it’s short and over quickly.

[Anonymous No.23197805]

>>23197575
Based.

[Anonymous No.23197822]

>>23196041
How do you feel about Succession Crisis caused by the inheriting-heir not wanting to be seen as too close to JesusShivaLucifer?

[Anonymous No.23197880]

I am waiting for the nogod series.

[Anonymous No.23197890]

Finally got around to (start) reading The once and future king by White, and jesus christ I had to drop it not even halfway through the first part. I expected some fantasy story retelling of the Arthurian legends, not some anachronistic "comedy" trash.

[Anonymous No.23197923]

>>23190084
The first Space Catholic book is kinda mid, but the rest is really really solid.
Still need to read the final series.

But not having liar telling the story makes it a lot more coherent.

>>23193537
Dry fast only eating some salt the 2nd day to stave of the delirium induced by iodine depletion.
But the figurative dryness of the writing do make how wacky it is stand out a lot more.

[Anonymous No.23197934]

>>23197880
has anyone here read Neuropath? how is it?

[Anonymous No.23197959]

>>23197934
>He has other books
Wut

[Anonymous No.23198304]

After going from reading 30+ books a year to failing to finish anything I've read in the past 3ish years despite picking up dozens of books I finally decided to just go with a series I read as a kid to make sure my brain wasn't completely broken and I somehow managed to finish the entire Eragon series in under a week, haven't been that invested in something in years despite being a kids book and the first one often just being called a star wars ripoff but in fantasy I really enjoyed it, it gets unique enough as it goes and eragon and saphira are actually likeable characters that play off of each other well

Thank you for reading my blog, back to picking up and dropping books halfway through because I have the taste of a child

[Anonymous No.23198413]

>>23198304
That seems like you're reading the wrong stuff for you almost all the time.

[Anonymous No.23198417]

I want to read something fantasy. Not too grounded, something with cool stuff in it but the author has put a lot of thought into how the world would naturally develop with the cool stuff in it.

[Anonymous No.23198435]

>>23198417
>but the author has put a lot of thought into how the world would naturally develop with the cool stuff in it.
MUH WORLD-BUILDING

[Anonymous No.23198450]

>>23198417
>tfw when something is so vague and subjective that it prevents legitimate recommendations rather than allowing turn

[Anonymous No.23198472]

>>23198450
Like if the whole thing about year long winters in asoiaf was actually accompanied by showing a civilization with the culture and practices to withstand an apocalyptic event every few years.

[Anonymous No.23198599]

I got fucking scammed. The prologue was kino so I bought it only for it to turn into a boring fagfest right after. I love Hellraiser and I can't even finish this shit. What happened to Clive Barker?

[Anonymous No.23198634]

the will of the many was packed full of plotholes. i enjoyed it for the most part, but it let me down by the end.

[Anonymous No.23198662]

>>23198304
>Spoiler
I love that series, I've devoured the 4 main books in 2 months while studying for my profissional exam. Have you read Murtagh?
I'm reading the Elder Scrolls novels based on the fourth game, maybe you'll fancy them?

[Anonymous No.23198665]

>>23198599
That's your fault for not knowing that Clive Barker is one of the most openly homosexual horror authors who loves putting it in almost all of his fiction when it's short fictiona or novels.

[Anonymous No.23198686]

>>23198413
I think I've just gotten too picky/autistic, when I was younger I didn't mind blowing through a book a week even if it wasn't really too my taste, now if one even hits something minor on my list of annoyances I just drop it and move on to something else

>>23198662
I just read the original 4, but since I enjoyed them so much I'm going to pick it up some time later this week or next week
>I'm reading the Elder Scrolls novels based on the fourth game, maybe you'll fancy them?
Not the biggest elder scrolls fan but just reading extended universe/tie in books for other series is something I've considered I just know how hit or miss those can be

[Anonymous No.23198746]

>>23198686
Maybe you should apply that to here as well. Moving on that is due to minor annoyances.

[Anonymous No.23198875]

>>23197934
It's not as good as the Earwa stuff. His strength is his purple, biblical, high fantasy style, when he tries to do modern gritty realism it just doesn't hit the same.

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[Anonymous No.23199151]

Nov 2019 - Mar 2024
A Look At The SFF Novels I've Read Since I Founded The /sffg/ Goodreads Group*

Novels: 313
Fantasy: 128
Science Fiction: 164
Science Fantasy: 21
Self-Published: 37
Translated: 17

Authors: 126
Male: 98
Female: 27
Trans: 1 (ftm)
Books read from author
1: 72
10+: 4

Publishers: 78 (inaccurate due to varying by edition)

Years Covered: 1941-2024
21st century: 244
20th century: 69
2020s: 79
2010s: 123
2000s: 42
1990s: 14
1980s: 27
1970s: 11
1960s: 11
1950s: 4
1940s: 2

Top 10 Most Read Authors And Their Average Rating
Sanderson, Brandon (3.2)
Modesitt, L.E. (3.8)
Wight, Will (3.1)
Reynolds, Alastair (2.9)
Abercrombie, Joe (4.2)
Corey, James S.A. (3.9)
Egan, Greg (3.8)
Abraham, Daniel (4.6)
Piper, H. Beam (3.9)
Tanaka, Yoshiki (4.0)

Top 10 Authors By Average Rating With At Least 3 Novels Read From Them
Liu, Ken (5.0)
Abraham, Daniel (4.6)
Bujold, Lois McMaster (4.3)
Weber, David (4.3)
Abercrombie, Joe (4.2)
Dinniman, Matt (4.2)
Wolfe, Gene (4.0)
McLean, Peter (4.0)
Simmons, Dan (4.0)
Staveley, Brian (4.0)

Top 10 Most Read Publishers, Their Average Rating, And The Authors I Read Most From Them
TOR (3.6) [Sanderson, Modesitt]
Orbit (3.6) [Abercrombie, Corey]
Ace (3.5) [Piper, Herbert]
Bantam (3.7) [Simmons, Crowley]
Hidden Gnome (3.1) [Wight]
Harper (3.8) [Bujold, Vaughn]
DAW (3.6) [Friedman]
Haikasoru (4.0) [Tanaka]
Saga Press (4.3) [Ken Liu]
Dandy House (4.2) [Dinniman]

Who Most Decided Whether I'd Read It
Self: 49%
Specific /sffg/ members: 28%
Thread or /sffg/ members in general: 23%

*various exclusions apply and edge cases were omitted