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3283530 No.3283530[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Is there anything like this?

- Fantasy or sci-fi
- Dark and serious atmosphere, no fun allowed
- Good characterization, long dialogue, intellectual themes
- No political intrigue

>> No.3283540

ASOIAF

>> No.3283539

Why would somebody hate fun? Whats the point of living then?

>> No.3283542

The Lord of the Rings gets very dark and serious and no-fun allowed after a while.
Can't really say there's good characterizations though.
There is long dialouge.
I don't know wether to call it intellectual or not.
I guess there is kind of some political intrigue but it's just in the background most of the time.

>> No.3283547

>>3283539
making others miserable?

>> No.3283550

Prince of Nothing by R. Scott Bakker is a lot like that. There's some political intrigue but not much.

The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin is pretty 'no fun allowed', just a book concentrated on a theme. Not super dark though.

>> No.3283551

>>3283540

Ha. Haha.

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3283555

>No political intrigue
>Fantasy or Sci-Fi

>> No.3283557

If you can stomach a dose of political intrigue, PKD is certainly your guy

>> No.3283563

>>3283547
Which is fun for oneself though.

>> No.3283565

The best grimdark sci-fi I've ever read has been Dan Abnett. He doesn't have the subtly or intelligence to write anything considered to be good, but as sci-fi goes, it's up there at the top.

The plot lines are pretty basic, so I suppose that covers a lack of intrigue. There is an element of black humor in there, but it is still very serious, and the Gaunt's Ghosts series in particular has some of my favorite characters ever.

Try Ravenor, Eisenhorn or Gaunt's Ghosts.

>> No.3283567

>>3283563
touché.

>> No.3283581

>>3283550
>There's some political intrigue but not much.

Not much? I'm currently engaged in reading this. I'm over 100 pages in and so far, the whole first part ('The sorcerer') is full of shit about spies, governments and political intrigues.

Plus, it has failed to grip me so far. Not even after the prologue, the typical fantasy hook of OMG THIS CHARACTER MUST BE THE CHOSEN ONE!!.
It's probably because its tone and prose are not exactly remarkable. Story-telling wise, his 'voice' was a disappointment.

Maybe all the information about factions already introduced will start to sink in and I'll be able to enjoy it fully.

Any words of encouragement? I've already picture myself finishing the first book and never bothering with the series again.

>> No.3283607

The Demolished Man and The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester...and The Dispossessed by Ursula K. Le Guin

>> No.3283609

>>3283581

If Kellhus' character doesn't grab you, especially later on when he starts interacting with people, I'd just drop the series.

I kept reading because I really enjoyed Kellhus' character (along with Achamian and Cnaiur). Any political stuff that went on was just in the background for me.

>> No.3283648

>>3283609
Sure, Kellhus and all that Dunyan crap was what grabbed me mostly of what I've read so far, but Achamian... so much information that doesn't lay the fucking basics of this world is driving me a little insane.

I'll keep going until he's reintroduced.

>> No.3283655

>>3283539
The pursuit of truth... That's before nihilism kicks in.
Then the goal is finding another goal. And minimizing boredom.
Can't go back to fun though... It's tainted by disdain.

>> No.3283661

The Dark Tower series. Kind of.