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>discuss politics all the time
>hate on atheists
>Nietzsche threads

WE /POL/ NOW!

>> No.3486291

every 4chan board hates atheists thanks to those idiots over at plebbit.

we only have so many /pol/ threads because we are constantly raided by /pol/.

nietzsche is lit.

>> No.3486295
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3486295

Explain this picture /lit/.

>> No.3486299

>>3486295
on 4chan we have these people known as 'trolls'.

>> No.3486306

There is no "we" here, not anymore.

Lit died weeks ago.

>> No.3486307

>>3486291
Don't call it a raid. It's the future you chose.

>> No.3486309

>>3486295
Laurie Penny is one of the most influential writers in our age group, and she's pretty hot too.

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3486320

>>3486309
>Laurie Penny is one of the most influential writers in our age group

>> No.3486311

>>3486299
are those kind of like me-mes?

>> No.3486313

Reactionary paleoconservitivim is the only outcome for this generations counter culture. Neoconservitism is dead and part of the dominant leftist philosophy anyway and the privilege identity politic bullshit of the mainstream left is offputting to many. So there you have it.

Reactionaries.

>> No.3486314

>implying atheists aren't the majority of virgin losers on this site

>> No.3486315

>>3486284
>/POL/
/pol/

JIDF detected.

>> No.3486316

>>3486306
>weeks

Lol

>> No.3486318

>>3486309
Ha

>> No.3486322

>>3486315
Why are people so butthurt over not bothering to take the capslock off?

>> No.3486324

>>3486313
>conservitism
indeed

>> No.3486325

>>3486318
Why are you laughing? You don't think she's hot? Or you're unaware of the half million people that subscribe to her columns?

>> No.3486327

this is the only place to discuss philosophy, therefore politics (ethics) is relevant.

same goes for discussions of teleology, theology, etc.

nothing wrong with nietzsche, either.

>> No.3486329

>>3486322
If you're going to make that excuse, you should have at least used ?POL?

>> No.3486330

>>3486325
you're awfully defensive of somebody you have no connection to.

>> No.3486332

>>3486325
Half a million! Wow, so influential and totally not regurgitated socialist drivel.

>> No.3486333

>>3486325
You need two ha-s for a laugh.

>> No.3486335
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3486335

Daily reminder that /lit/ is the true cancer of 4chan.

>> No.3486336

>>3486325
You couldn't pay me to subscribe anywhere near her columns.

>> No.3486341

Why so leftists /lit/? Were you beaten as a child.

>> No.3486344
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3486344

>>3486325

Extremely fuckable, but hot is a stretch.

>> No.3486347
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3486347

>People on /lit/ actually take Laurie Penny seriously

>> No.3486350
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3486350

>>3486335
because this picture isn't used enough

>> No.3486352

looks like laurie penny's stalker has successfully turned her into a /lit/ meme.

>> No.3486353
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3486353

>>3486284
Did somebody say /pol/!?

>> No.3486356

>>3486327

>teleology

I come here with philosophical questions all the time and all I do is get yelled at and saged.

Fuck /lit/. I honestly gave you guys a chance but you've only been rude and very cliquey.

>inb4 butthurt and posing stupid questions

Nope and nope, you guys are honestly just horrible people.

Sorry to those of you who aren't, but you aren't gonna reply to this because you are probably lurkers too afraid to post for the reasons I've listed, and further more I doubt this is a thread that is being lurked.

>> No.3486361

The most amazing thing about /pol/ is their inability to realise how blatant they are. They have this incredible blindness to their own lack of subtlety.
I mean, wow.

>> No.3486364

>>3486329
>IMPLYING HE WAS HOLDING SHIFT
STAY MAD /LIT/

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3486365

>>3486352
>>3486350

>> No.3486370
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3486370

>>3486361

>implying a lack of subtlety indicative of an attempt at subtly

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>>3486370

>... subtlety *is* indicative

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3486377

>mfw /pol/ links my thread

>> No.3486378

>>3486356

Lit is the kind of place you come to so you can see a special breed of pretentious faggot and be glad it isn't you. It serves no other purpose.

>> No.3486388

>>3486378
I come here because it reminds me how dull the internet is and that I should get back to reading and writing. It's great.

>> No.3486398

>>3486356
i don't understand why you posted all of that? are you narcissistic enough to think that your complaint (which isn't representative of my experience here) is going to change the way the board operates?

your only options are to leave, suffer through it, or actively try and make the board more to your liking by being the change you want.

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3486401

>>3486388

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>>3486361
We don't do subtlety.

>> No.3486407

>hate on atheists
This is full of Americans, what did you expect?

>> No.3486410

>>3486378
>>3486388
>it's all of YOU who are the problem. I only contribute brilliance!

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>>3486398

>/lit/ in charge of understanding cathartic releases

>> No.3486418

>>3486309
>Influential
ahahaah

>> No.3486419

>>3486407
Lol, exactly. Which makes sense because the two most popular New Atheist books were written by Ameri--oh, wait.

>> No.3486420

>>3486407
Also, new atheists are awful. That's a big part of it.

>> No.3486421

>>3486401
Posting those says more about you and what you think people will find upsetting than anything else.

>> No.3486423
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3486423

Where did that Laurie Penny thread go?

>> No.3486425

>/lit/ would break your shit.

>You /pol/ cunts have no idea how to debate anything. You just mass spam slogans and poorly phrased rhetoric, and mistake brute-forcing a debate for winning.

>Yes, you probably will swarm /lit/ and spam your nonsense, over and over, and come back thinking you have won, when in reality you're so fucking ignorant that you wouldn't even realise you got totally spanked.

>/lit/ is for the big boys, the intellectual board. This is why we have /pol/; it's a holding pen for you retards.

This is what /lit/ actually believes.

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3486426

>>3486407

>America is 100% Christian

>> No.3486429

>>3486295
WHEN I WAS...
that pic makes me think I am back on /b/

>> No.3486432
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3486432

>>3486356
Groq thicker skin you pussy this is 4chan. Everyone is given shit here but only YOU cry about it. You know you're only being fucked with right? Can't even handle some minor trolling?
Go back to where you came from and take your no fun allowed bullshit with you.

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3486439

>>3486410

>implying that asking /lit/ questions implied that anon thought that he was contributing to /lit/ in any way

>> No.3486440

>>3486421
>upsetting
You spelled "laughably cringe-worthy" wrong.

>> No.3486445
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3486445

>>3486423

>404'd

Another victory for the great /pol/!

>> No.3486449

>>3486425
... he says, without making any actual argument. That third quote seems quite pertinent right now.

>> No.3486450
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3486450

>>3486432

>> No.3486451

>>3486309
Seems like a pretentious middle class harlot who was raised above her ability purely due to conjecture and speculative potential. Agenda driven views and leftists blathering doesnt make someone influential, it makes them a shill of the political spectrum, and those she does influence are blind idiots yearning to throw themselves off the cliff of common sense and intelligence.

>> No.3486448
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3486448

So has /lit/ become a socialist shithole that caters to narcissistic communist hipsters who go to Oxford in order to get worthless English degrees and be attention-whoring, immigrant-loving pissants in general?

>> No.3486455

It's funny how /lit/ dedicates threads to /pol/ almost daily yet /pol/ does not give two shits about you, nor does it organise raids.

>> No.3486457

>>3486448
Welcome to /lit/ where we talk about Ayn Rand every single day.
"Intellectuals"

>> No.3486458

>>3486425
Well, yeah, it's sort of true. /lit/ isn't actually all that smart, but /pol/ is just fucking moronic.
>muh slurs
>muh delusions
>muh ad homs

>> No.3486459

>>3486449
>without making any actual argument

>>3486378 said it best.

>> No.3486460

>>3486448
Yes, it's exactly as black-and-white as you need it to be in order to make a point.

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>>3486432
>sophism designed to turn people off to philosophy
>fun

>> No.3486464

>>3486451
>those she does influence are blind idiots
And Cabinet ministers and MPs in charge of policies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WrEB3Amh6E

>> No.3486465
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3486465

>>3486425
>>3486449

>implying a whole board dedicated to political debate isn't good at debating

And battling the JIDF is like training at 1000x gravity. /pol/ is full of fucking Super Saryans.

>> No.3486468

>>3486455
If /pol/ doesn't give two shits, why are you all over here?
Didn't you see the thread on /pol/ about LP coming to /lit/, maybe half an hour ago or less?
Funny how you're making sweeping statements based on glaring ignorance. I wonder where you learned to do that?

>> No.3486469

>>3486455
>/lit/ dedicates threads to /pol/ almost daily

Why? What is people's obsession with talking about us behind our backs like they can't come to us and debate their shit.

>> No.3486470

>>3486457
There must be a cleansing with the fires of truth and honesty!

Ayn Rand is a whore who never worked a day of her life! Intellectuals and people who assume realities and comment upon it.

>> No.3486473

>>3486460

Nice passive-aggressiveness. Can you not come out and insult me normally?

>> No.3486474

>>3486468
I LEARNED IT FROM YOU! I LEARNED IT BY WATCHING YOU, DAD!

>> No.3486475

>>3486458
>but /pol/ is just fucking moronic

?

>> No.3486476

>>3486410
I didn't say I contribute anything. Nice butthurt you've got there.

>> No.3486478

>>3486464
>And Cabinet ministers and MPs in charge of policies.

So blind idiots.

>> No.3486479

>>3486470

Rand was a good economist, but a terrible moralist.

On that same token, Karl Marx never worked a day in his life either.
Such is the life of most "intellectuals".

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3486480

>>3486432

>admitting that /lit/ is just as bad as the rest of 4chan after claiming that it is better than the rest and above the rabble

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3486483

>>3486474

>> No.3486486

>>3486464
All she did was take cheapshots and jabber on about some bullshit.
Was the point of the video to maker her seem even more stupid?
You succeded comrade

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3486488

>>3486284
>hate on atheists

Seriously now? Are we all religious now just because we don't wanna be like 'those kids' over at r/atheism?

>> No.3486489

>>3486468

Threads get linked to other boards all the time. Just because there's one on /pol/ doesn't mean there's a dedicated effort to ruin /lit/.

>> No.3486490

>>3486291

I like to think I don't hate atheists so much as the kind of people who purposely label themselves atheists and then make a huge deal out of it.

I mean, alright, having a debate on the subject and challenging attempts to dumb down education are important, but if you are the kind of atheist who likes to look down on others and pretend his opinion means he's a intellectual above all others, then fuck you.

Really this applies to plenty of labels though.

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3486491

>taking /pol/ seriously
Protip: Hundreds of anons admit that everything they post on /pol/ is just for fun and not their real opinion. It should really just be renamed 'political satire'.
Only the /b/ migrants say any of the /pol/ shit and 'mean it' and even then they're just being edgy.

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3486494

>>3486458

>dat ad hom-strawman-part to whole in one

>> No.3486495

>>3486491
shhhhhh muh red pills

>> No.3486498

>>3486491
The day will soon dawn for you aswell friend, much of what is said in /pol/ is infact a real opinion.

>> No.3486499

>>3486486
It's a 14min video. You posted 4 mins later.

>> No.3486500

>"/pol/ is so shit and bad at debating it's just moronic"
>whole of 4chan gets walked over when 5 or so /pol/iticians turn up to their boards, leaving them with nothing to say but fallacies and an acute air of anal devastation

>> No.3486501

>>3486473
That wasn't passive aggressive, that was satire. Can you not come out and understand the language you're speaking?

>>3486474
I thought you didn't care about /lit/, why are you watching me?

You guys are pretty bad at maintaining logical arguments.

>> No.3486502

>>3486499
To be fair, that video was linked in the old thread on /pol/ at least half an hour ago. It's plausible that anon has seen it.

>> No.3486503

>>3486475
/pol/ is a bunch of reactionary white 15 year old males thinking they're edgy for being racist, misogynist, and otherwise supportive of the kyriarchy, when really all they're doing is following their deeply ingrained social programming and spitting out ad homs at anyone who challenges them.

>> No.3486504

>>3486423
>Where did that Laurie Penny thread go?

The mod deleted it, but allowed this to stay.

/lit/ is dead.

>> No.3486506

>>3486464
doesnt change my view. Politicians are just as bad.

>> No.3486507

>>3486499
Yes? and that was all she did during those 4 minutes. Why would I watch someone who gets invited to speak and then continues to throw cheapshots against the people who invited her?
Trash-tier

>> No.3486508

>>3486473
I don't think anything needs adjusting, I obviously hit the target pretty well.

>> No.3486509

>>3486491
>thinking /pol/ is just /storm/ all the time

>> No.3486514

>>3486501
>I thought you didn't care about /lit/, why are you watching me?

>You guys are pretty bad at maintaining logical arguments.

Can't into reference joke? This is why nobody takes you seriously.

>> No.3486515

>>3486491
>Hundreds of anons admit that everything they post on /pol/ is just for fun and not their real opinion
No, they don't.

You really can't understand that some people cannot express their personal views anywhere else except for /pol/, can you?

>> No.3486516

>>3486503
Ah strawmen, gotta love 'em.

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3486517

>>3486295
this is our true queen

>> No.3486519

>>3486514
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ZVbqJA5XQ

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>>3486495

>facts that contradict my world view are just researched by people dedicating their whole lives to trolling

>> No.3486524

>>3486465

haha, ow wow.

This is why I love /pol/

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>>3486500

/pol/ has a ton of practice dealing with invading liberals.

>> No.3486531

>>3486503
>Label everything I disagree with
lalalalala you are a faggot lalalala

>> No.3486533

>>3486526
Not always. There's a core of lefties that frequent there too.

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3486525

>>3486504
She wont come, /pol/ are fucking it up. They have no grasp of subtlety.

>> No.3486526

>>3486503
>their deeply ingrained social programming

But /pol/ is right wing.

>> No.3486528

>>3486500
>implying the opposite of what's very clearly happening
None of you are making arguments, you're just implying you are in green text. Nice raid, retard.

>> No.3486535

>>3486494
>didn't attempt to represent /pol/'s opinion on anything
>strawman
>ad hom accompanied by actual argument
learn your fallacies before you try and call them on others.

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>>3486503

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>>3486464

>dat ass

>> No.3486547

>>3486528

Sorry, but I have yet to see a single thread wherein /pol/ has seemingly "lost", whatever that really means. Most of the time people have nothing to say to /pol/ except to strawman it when in reality, /pol/ happens to just be very libertarian.

>> No.3486541

>>3486525
You realize that scaring her off is intentional, right? They want her to stay away so they don't have a light shined on their rat nest that might bring risk of being called out full-force.

>> No.3486544

/pol/ will never be taken seriously by other boards as long as it rejects contemporary feminism.

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3486550

Rape A/pol/ogist here, just giving you f/lit/s that shiny new ad-hominem to even the playing field for our "debates." You guys love affirmative action right?

>> No.3486551

>>3486541
You really think /pol/ would give two shits about it?

>> No.3486554

>>3486514
Can't into arguing your point and attempting to derail the conversation with pop-culture reference jokes instead?

>> No.3486556

>>3486541
Yes because 20 something communists who's entire political ideology revolves around free handouts from the government and whining about social justice has a light to shine on us.

>> No.3486557

>>3486526
>But /pol/ is right wing.
exactly. society sure as hell didn't train you to be anti-racist, despite what you might tell yourself. you haven't even come close to the real red pill. everythingyouknowisalie

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>>3486503

The most posts like these I see, the more I understand how few people give /pol/ an actual look.

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3486563

>>3486309

>hot

/lit/ with their low standards... she is 2/10 at her best. Wouldn't even consider banging.

>> No.3486566

>>3486464

That first fucking quip about "bringing me down to size" before she even begins her speech is just fucking gross. And it was a fucking woman who said it.

If you can't tell people to pull the mic down so that they can be heard, then I honestly don't want to fucking live on this planet anymore.

>> No.3486569

>>3486547
>implying the opposite of what's very clearly happening
None of you are making arguments, you're just claiming you are in plain text. Nice raid, retard.

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>>3486503

>> No.3486572

>>3486541
>You realize that scaring her off is intentional, right?

She writes articles about internet trolls, the culture of online misogyny and cyber abuse for a living. That 'scaring her off' post is going to piss her and her 60k feminist left wing followers off. Where do you think they'll go?

>> No.3486575

/pol/ is still mad that black people have bigger dicks than them and get their jobs with lesser qualifications.

Basically, they're bitches bitching. Nothing new here.

>> No.3486576

>>3486531
>>3486539
oh man, i'm blown away by /pol/'s argumentative skill, we have lost /lit/, they are superior

>> No.3486577

>>3486554
>There's only one person here.

I'm not whoever you were talking to before. I just made the reference.

>> No.3486578

>>3486295
MY NAME IS PENNY BUT YOU CAN CALL ME PENNY THE DEMON KILLER, HAS A NICE RING TO IT DONTCHA THINK?

>> No.3486581

>>3486556
>communists who's entire political ideology revolves around free handouts from the government

Oh look, /pol/ doesn't understand communism.

>> No.3486582

>>3486575
>muh dik

every time

>> No.3486584

>>3486306
/lit/ has been a shambling corpse from inception.

>> No.3486585

>>3486575
>muh dick

go tell the stormfags, this shit runs off our back like water off a duck we've heard it so often.

>> No.3486586

>>3486577
That's weird how you picked up the argument right at the moment he decided to drop it. Funny coincidence.

>> No.3486589

>>3486575
>racism

>> No.3486590

>>3486581
Neither does she, but that's the bullshit she clings to.

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3486592

>>3486563
I think she's quite hot. I got a bit of a fetish for feminists and empowered women though

>> No.3486595

>>3486586
>argument
>joke
pick one. I don't even know what you were talking about in your squabble.

>> No.3486599

>>3486592
>women
Die cis scum

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>>3486576

As someone who posts on both /pol/ and /lit/, I think you're making an artificial distinction here.

I like /pol/. 90% of it is moronic shit and trolling because 4chan, but there's a genuine diversity of opinion there that I haven't found anywhere else.

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>>3486503
>>3486458
>>3486491

you guys have to be /pol/sters rusing as /lit/erists. Your arguments against /pol/ is that all the do us use ad homs, which is a fucking ad hom. Do you even into debate?

>> No.3486606

/pol/ has the most consistently beta arguments. FEMINISTS ARE TAKING OVER. WERE EMASCULATED> BLACKS ARE STOOPID BUT TAKE ALL OUR JOBS.

Always complaining. What would conservative betas even do without feminists and blacks to blame for their personal failures?

>> No.3486610

>live in Tolerance Zone #65
>be nu-trans fourth trimester transsexual Angst Profile ZETA-8 genderqueer pseudo-dyke reformed lesbiophilic heteromollusc
>see cis white male at the zoo
>ask "mommies, what's that?"
>they don't know
>Genderless Polyamorous Parental Unit #2 takes me into a Safe Zone and engages the Feelings Shield
>tells me that it is a monster from the beforetime
>tells me not to be scared, because the monsters‘ penisocracy was smashed by the forces of the LBJQGTA5 Coalition in the Patriarchy Wars
>start to cry
>s/he opens his and/or her rainbow mesh vest and retrieves an estrogen pill to cheer me up
>feel the calming femininity wash over me
>s/he tells me that the monsters aren't allowed to hurt anyone anymore, only to work, to support our glorious society
>go back out to gaze once more at the cis-gendered abomination
>throw Privilege Peanuts at him
>everyone laughs
>take some soma
>go home and read some consensus-approved feelings-safe literature

>> No.3486612
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3486612

>>3486606
>What would liberal betas even do without the patriarchy and 1% to blame for their personal failures?

>> No.3486614
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3486614

>>3486526

>/pol/ is right wing

Confirmed for not having ever been to /pol/

/pol/, contrary to popular belief, is actually very libertarian

>> No.3486615

>>3486592

die cis scum

>> No.3486616

>>3486595
Yes, that you tried to derail one into the other is sort of what I'm driving at, here. Trouble with your reading comprehension?

>>3486600
That's not even addressing what he said.

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>>3486575

>> No.3486619

>>3486614
To be fair, most of them are right libertarian, not left libertarian.

>> No.3486621

>>3486614
lmao

>> No.3486622

>>3486585
>this shit runs off our back

Interesting that you have that particular analogy ready at hand.

>> No.3486625

>>3486606
>FEMINISTS ARE TAKING OVER
That's /v/ and /r9k/.

>WERE EMASCULATED
See above.

>BLACKS ARE STOOPID
I'll give you that one.

>BUT TAKE ALL OUR JOBS
I've seen this on /pol/ as often as I've seen a black man working, ie never.

>> No.3486628

>>3486603
the argument is about character though. ad homs are fallacies because they don't address the issue. however, in this case the issue IS whether or not /pol/ is bad at arguing. so the statement that /pol/ does nothing but make ad hom arguments is perfectly relevant.
sorry the wikipedia article on logical fallacies didn't teach you how to actually be good at debate.

>> No.3486629

>>3486616
>You replied and are still replying
U wot?

>> No.3486631
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3486631

>>3486612
>he thinks /lit/ is liberal

>> No.3486636

>>3486515
>NO THEY DONT
So you fully admit to being a newfaggot who hasnt lurked enough?
Also, Most of rural america shares /pol/s 'opinions' so yes, there are plenty of places on the net and irl that they can speak freely about what they think and get support. You must be from Europe.

>> No.3486637

>>3486610
Why isn't there more good post-feminist sci-fi? They tended to forget to use their imaginations for this stuff after the whole "science can give us an x free future!"

>> No.3486639

>>3486631
You all seem very Progressive.

>> No.3486640
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3486640

>/pol/

epic.

>> No.3486643
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3486643

this thread has been a pleasure /pol/
Watching the /lit/ scum squirm at your feet is always good fun.

>> No.3486644
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3486644

>>3486592

>empowered

So, being a grown up child that has no knowledge about economics is being empowered.

>> No.3486646

>>3486639
Funny, you seem the opposite. What's the word? Regressive.

>> No.3486648

>>3486480
I never said /lit/ was better than anywhere. That was my first post in the thread.

>> No.3486652

>>3486643
>the tactic of pretending you're winning

A fourth grade strategy in a third grade war.

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>>3486646
>sick burn

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3486654

>>3486600
>I like /pol/. 90% of it is moronic shit and trolling because 4chan, but there's a genuine diversity of opinion there that I haven't found anywhere else.

I agree. It's a decent mix of funny shitposts with some occasional argument between people of diverse opinion sprinkled on top. Pic related. I'm not right wing.

>> No.3486656

>>3486643
>/pol/ "invasion"
>50% of all posts are /pol/ declaring itself successful and patting itself on the back for it
>0% of posts contain coherent, non-fallacious arguments in /pol/'s favour

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3486659

>>3486628

Calling us racist and mysogonist doesn't mean that we are bad at arguing. It's trying to imply that we are bad at arguing. Sorry the wikipedia article on logical fllacies idn't teach you howto actually be good at debate.

Also, claiming that we are ad hom'ing w/o providing proof except for "They're Ad Hom'ing!!XDXDXD" is an ad hom.

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>>3486631

That's not what I said, I was just pointing out that the argument works equally well for both sides.

Betas exist at all points of the political spectrum, and "always blaming someone else for their failures" is pretty much the perfect definition of one.

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3486665

>>3486656

Nice use of logos there bud... Wait a minute... You tricked me!

That' not very nice.

>> No.3486670

>>3486654
I love how internet addicts can rationalize spending so much time out of their actual lives posting in an environment of admittedly "90% moronic shit" rather than just clicking the X and doing something productive.

Black people aren't the problem. Not having a life is.

>> No.3486667

>>3486639
/lit/ is leftist as fuck, friend. As in actual leftist, not liberal. Liberalism is right wing.

>> No.3486668

>>3486341
There are many Leftists on /lit/ because we read. You should try some time.

>> No.3486674

>>3486667
That's why he said progressive and not liberal...

>> No.3486676

>>3486670
>Africa
>bleck people arent problem, open gates let mudmen share our welfare

>> No.3486677
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3486677

>>3486541
>"called out in full force"

You mean like what happens on a weekly basis when people try to "call out" /pol/ by spouting the same tired strawman argument and ad homenims only a leftist could be so immature as to resort to, then claim victory even after they're utterly destroyed by /pol/acks with a modicum of sense?

Oh, that. We're used to it. Frankly, every time it happens we seem to just get new converts out of it.

>> No.3486679

>>3486670
I don't spend a lot of time there. It's fun to browse every now and then as there's a lot of funny threads and some fun arguments to be had. I agree that not having a life is an issue for some people, but it's not me. I just be a casual user.

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3486680

>>3486670

No pain, no gain. Nice use of personal attack though, that's gonna sting for at least an internet week.

>> No.3486681

Sometimes I get a bit annoyed with how childish and petty /lit/ can be. Too many memes and obnoxious chan culture with completely ridiculous arguments, infantile attitudes and penmanship. Then something like this happens.
Thanks, /pol/. You're the pudding-bowl of excrement that reminds me to be thankful for my oats.

>> No.3486682

>>3486659
No, it's an unsubstantiated claim. The form of the ad hominem fallacy is that one attacks the opponent's character to avoid attacking their position. However, I'm attacking your position that /pol/ isn't stupid as fuck. Also, do I really need to demonstrate that /pol/ is ad hom central? I can if you're seriously going to claim that it's untrue that /pol/ is a shitstorm of yelling and crying and avoiding the real red pill.

>> No.3486683

>>3486674
If you're going to participate, at least follow the quotes to what was originally being discussed.

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3486684

>>3486670
>Black people aren't the problem
>implying anyone's mentioned blacks
>also hilarious lack of self-awareness

>> No.3486685

>>3486603
>implying I dont like lurking /pol/
dumbass. I still stand by the fact thag /pol/ is mostly trolling but that doesnt mean I hold them any ill-will.

>> No.3486686

>>3486674
He said liberal at first a few posts earlier.

>> No.3486690

>>3486683
Consider they weren't the same person.

>> No.3486694

>>3486682
>avoiding the real red pill.

There are many flavors of that pill, bro

/pol/ has all of them, from anarcho-syndicalists to libertarians to fascists all the way over to full-on Stalinist paleocommunists

>> No.3486695

>>3486525

Is that twitter account really a fucking c/lit/? The combination of letters you used to make up that sentence makes me want to through up.

Also, it's called a fucking ampersand.

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3486696

>>3486677

This.

>> No.3486697

So is this going to happen or not?

>> No.3486700

>>3486694

You forgot the most popular flavor. Juice.
Hell, even my captcha loves exposing the Holohoax

>ash-box tsDigar

>> No.3486703

So, /pol/ comes to /lit/ for a debate on political philosophy, and only succeeds in debating who the best debater is for using the least 'leftist' ad hominem attacks?

Jesus Christ, /pol/. I clicked this thread expecting Jean-Jacques Rousseau vs. Kant.

>> No.3486704

>>3486695
No, it's quite obviously one of you. Lacking subtlety. Apparently too subtle for you, though.
How can you be this stupid yet capable of using a computer?

>> No.3486706

>>3486680
>Nice use of personal attack though
You're right. There's a code of war in board raids I should be abiding by, I forgot.

>>3486684
>lack of self awareness

That would only be true if I also thought the places I spend my internet time on were "90% moronic shit". But I don't. And if I did, it would indicate that I don't value my time in comparison to my addictive pleasure.

>> No.3486709

>>3486682

>yelling and crying
>over a text-based internet forum

Granted we do get a few renditions of the Pokemon Themesong via vocaroo, but hardly crying or screaming.

>> No.3486711

>>3486694
>There are many flavors of that pill
1) There's a really fucking huge red pill, bigger than the rest. And you can't have contradictory red pills. I don't think you understand how red pills work.
2) Aw, look at you equivocating, like a good little "freethinker"! You can probably talk to someone with a different opinion than you, and pat yourself on the back for being civil for 80% of the discussion!

>> No.3486713

>>3486706
>4chan

>> No.3486716

>Try to read Beyond Good and Evil.
>Long as fuck sentences.
>Need to stop and think just what the hell it means.
>Can take The Brothers Karamazov but not this.

What the fuck? How do people get through Nietzsche? It's like he wrote it as complex as possible.

>> No.3486720

>>3486706
>You're right. There's a code of war in board raids I should be abiding by, I forgot.

And yet everyone can see how much of an idiot you are for using these tactics, maybe because it's common sense to avoid them in any serious argument.

>> No.3486721

>>3486703
/pol/ has never heard those names before.
Remember that the majority of people on boards like /x/ and /pol/ are from /b/

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>>3486709
>Granted we do get a few renditions of the Pokemon Themesong via vocaroo

LINK PLOX

>>3486711
>you can't have contradictory red pills
>only I can be right lol!

You are part of the problem bro

>> No.3486726

>>3486706
Hold the horses there, man. I'm not entirely disagreeing with you, but watch where you point those last two sentences. It's assuming a lot to think that people are wasting a large amount of time on /pol/ or that any of said wasted time is valuable.

>> No.3486727

>>3486716

Thus Spake Zarathustra isn't bad.

>> No.3486730

>>3486703
I think the thing is /pol/ just uses the easiest and most effective sophisms to debate; Rosseau vs. Kant wouldn't be understood by most of their user-base or the people they "debate" with so very few to none have any knowledge of them.
Why construct a coherent logical argument when you can beat the opposition into silence with green text, memes, overwhelming numbers and sheer bloody-mindedness?

>> No.3486732

>>3486727
I'll give it a try.

>> No.3486735

>>3486706

No, I'm not saying that your personal attack was unwarranted, it just doesn't help your cause at all, and actually tips the scale in favor of /pol/ being the better arguers.

Anon posted a completely harmless and well meaning post about how he likes both boards, even posting proof that he is fairly left-leaning and your immediate reaction was to call him a dumby for wasting his time. You were even able to slap a nice "racist" label on him even after he mentioned absolutely nothing about blacks or any race. Cool strawman, bro! And I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

>> No.3486740

>>3486721
>So much implying

>> No.3486741

>>3486720
>serious argument
>raiding a board

Yes. How could I forget that these are the same thing? You are so clearly deserving of my respectful discourse.

>> No.3486742

>>3486716
>>Try to read Beyond Good and Evil.
>>Long as fuck sentences.

BGAE is 296 numbered paragraphs long.

>> No.3486738

>>3486730
I can smell your ego from here.

>> No.3486744

>>3486735

/pol/ /lit/ anon here, and thank you.

It's good to see that idiocy and prejudice is alive and well at all points along the political spectrum.

>> No.3486746

>>3486738
Diddums.

>> No.3486748

>>3486735
My post had nothing to do with the OP, similar to how the majority of the thread doesn't. But you already know that.

>> No.3486750

>>3486723
>dat babby's first subjectivity
>dat inability to comprehend the significance of the death of god as it pertains to the notion of argument

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>>3486741

Forgive me. Somehow I thought we had a mutual goal of maintaining an intellectual framework in society, but apparently you're content to act like you're trolling when called out on your stupidity.

>> No.3486753

is this news?

>> No.3486755

>>3486704
That's me and I'm quite serious. I'm getting tingles up my leg thinking about my hero coming here to talk to us.

So what are you shitlords up to today? I'm halfway through a special library of Foucalt's writings which is entirely too obscure for you. It was reinterpreted and hammered out by a down's syndrome sufferer on PCP and the work is truly a triumph of post-modernism.

>> No.3486760

>>3486751
>act like you're trolling

I'm not trolling and never said I was.

>> No.3486764

>>3486711

Redpills are just where people dump facts and statistics. Some people like certain types of societies, and they bring facts and argue that they want to live like that and they (in their worldview) think that is the way their society should be run.

Other people join the board and say, "hey fellow anon, I don't think that what you are saying is right for me, I prefer this type of society," and they provide facts and figures to back up their argument for their worldview's idea of a perfect society.

Battles are fought, blood is shed, and butts are hurt, but in the end both walk away with more knowledge about how things work than when they entered the gauntlet. True, the anarcho-syndicalist may not have turned the fascist, but they now know a little bit more of each other socio-economic structures and can maybe in the future (after the happening) join together and form a compromise on how to found the new society.

>> No.3486765

>>3486755
lmao, hipster fag

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>>3486750
>inability to understand that intelligent, well-meaning people may have wildly different opinions of the meaning of a given set of facts

>> No.3486768

>hate government charging more for uni?
>hate cuts?
>love increased taxes?
>love socialised everything?
>want Britain to mirror your world view?
>move to America where your taxes are tiny and everything is cheap as fuck!

>> No.3486775
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>>3486755
That cutting satire! So quick-witted, so biting; I was almost taken in by your cunning ruse.

I'm reaching the point where I'm not sure I care if /pol/ they've won or not, their argument is a (marginally) developed version of I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I?

I was going to post the classic "arguing on the internet" image but google turned up this which seems more relevant.

>> No.3486776

>>3486730

Rosseau v Kant would never work on any board on 4chan because it would require face to face contact and the knowledge that the person you are arguing with is not a troll.

It's hard to argue on any board because ever reply could be someone new who hadn't read your previous posts and who doesn't understand the fundamental arguments you are making. The best is when you are arguing with someone and 6-7 posts later you realize that you are both arguing for the same thing.

>> No.3486780

>>3486767
>failure to address the argument
>not understanding that accepting subjectivity as the condition of the universe undermines any conception of intrinsic normative ethics, and allows us to create our own frameworks which can shut out others

the choices are existentialism and nihilism, i don't have to acknowledge their opinions from within my entirely subjective and mostly arbitrary framework. your framework is just as arbitrary, but makes a pretense at objectivity, thus fails by our collective standards, which ask us to at least maintain a self-consistency and honesty.

>> No.3486782

>>3486775
>stop disliking people I like or I'll cry about it for three paragraphs

>> No.3486784

>>3486748

r u 'avin' a giggle, or are you responding to the wrong post, because I, too, did not mention anything about the OP.

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>>3486775

So you can't defend your own politically-minded faggotry, but feel superior for asking others to defend their own politically-minded faggotry?

>> No.3486791

>>3486703
>Jesus Christ, /pol/. I clicked this thread expecting Jean-Jacques Rousseau vs. Kant.
Bring it on, /lit/.

Rousseau was basically the unabomber; an anarcho primitivist, but he was too scared of acting on his convictions. He couldn't go back, even though the future would be worse. He was too early for Marx, or the industrial revolution, but believed science and technology was the evil enemy that would eventually enslave everyone with consumerism - meaning wealth was the highest value in society and society would structure to protect the rich. He was a pre communist Marxist, with a warped perception of Labour theory of value, wanted anarchism, but was to scared to embrace his views.

Kant, on the other hand was a boss, the father of modernity and king of the enlightenment. His 'noumenal phenomenal' was groundbreaking, even if Hegel fucked it up with dialectical thinking. He dived headfirst into revolution and didn't look back. Kant was the true hero we deserve; he guided us to iphones and the internet, Rousseau would have left us huddled round a fire in a cave because he couldn't see past his elementary vision of the future.

Pol: 1
Lit: 0

>> No.3486793

>>3486776
Sure. I'd agree that my comment about their tactics would apply to practically any board on here, but of all those /pol/ seems to pride itself on them the most, as they have the most pressing agenda.
Not meaning to make it all black-and-white but at least there's some attempt to debate honestly on /lit/. Sometimes.

>> No.3486801

>>3486786
>implying both of those things

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3486802

>>3486776
>The best is when you are arguing with someone and 6-7 posts later you realize that you are both arguing for the same thing.

That has happened to me so many times and it is glorious.

I like to view 4chan as an excellent exercise in building emotional sovereignity. Nothing you see on 4chan should make you mad.

>>3486780
>muh subjectivity
>imagining the other guy's position
>apparently can't read

I said, again, that intelligent and well-meaning people can have wildly different opinions of the meaning of a given set of a facts.

This is not subjectivity, because we're dealing with objective facts. Like how I'm trying to steer you back onto what I actually said (objective facts) rather than what you seem to be imagining I said (your subjective imagination).

>> No.3486822

>>3486325
>You don't think she's hot?

Thats pretty much why you beta dumbasses like her. You think by reading her coloums, that it will someone get you into her pants.

I would put money down that if she was ugly or male then shouldn't be nearly as popular.

>> No.3486824

>>3486802
well, if we're arguing from a position of imagined objectivity, then simply put, i'm right, they're wrong. (I don't believe this, but I can make this claim if we're arguing from a position of objectivity.) That's why your equivocating is stupid.

>> No.3486829

>>3486309

I'm sorry, but any cunt that utters such stupid shit gets an immediate -10/10

>> No.3486830

>>3486824

There is nothing more objective than personal freedom.

>> No.3486834

>>3486824
>equivocating
>doesn't know what words mean

There's no imagined to the objectivity bro, facts are facts. That's what makes them facts. The differences in how people choose to interpret those facts, depending on their desires and opinions, is where debate comes from.

Unless you want to argue that there are true and false facts, in which case you are the one pushing subjectivism.

GG.

>> No.3486845

>>3486822
>I would put money down that if she was ugly or male then shouldn't be nearly as popular.

In his early 20's (same age as her) Christopher Hitches started writing for the New Statesmen (same paper as her) and wrote everything as a Trotskyist (even more left than her), before he had really developed his ruthless wit and debating ability, and was still popular.

>> No.3486847

>>3486845
*Hitchens

>> No.3486849

>>3486845
And Hitchens died ugly, whats your point?

>> No.3486853

>>3486849
His point is that the statement he was replying to was false. As he showed with the Hitchens example.
Do you still need your mother to spoon-feed you food, too? Or is it just logic?

>> No.3486855

>>3486853
>mastertroll2012.jpg

>> No.3486858

>>3486855
What's your point?

>> No.3486866

>>3486448
>/lit/
>socialist

>> No.3486871

>>3486858

On top of being an insufferable cunt, Laurie Penny is a mediocre writer and a complete professional student.
I don't know this Christopher Hitchens, but I doubt he held the same views as sh does.

>> No.3486886

>>3486871

You really don't understand how to make an argument, do you?

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>>3486871
>I don't know this Christopher Hitchens, but I doubt he held the same views as she does.
Are you trolling?

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3486897

Why can't you shitters stay on your own board? That's why I hate /pol/, not because they're a classic example of contrarians trying to prove that they're individuals when in reality, they're just hiveminding, not because they think that anything represented by a bar graph is objectively true, not because they pride themselves on strength when in reality they're just bawwing on the internet, not because their "citations" are so blatantly biased that they make wikipedia seem like JSTOR, it's because despite how comically radical their beliefs are, they feel the need to bring their up beliefs constantly, even (and especially) when no one asked for them to do so. People from /pol/ are the Jehovah's Witnesses of 4chan and you'd be doing the whole site a favor if you would kindly shut the fuck up and stay on your own board.

Watch, someone will post an irrelevant picture about feminism, call me liberal scum, and do their very best to assure themselves that they aren't an a loud mouthed, immature pile of shit that no one cares about. /pol/ is literally tumblr, except with the opposite ideology

>> No.3486907

>>3486871
>[1]On top of being an insufferable cunt, Laurie Penny is a mediocre writer and a complete professional student.
>[2]I don't know this Christopher Hitchens, but I doubt he held the same views as she does.

I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve. If you want point 1 to be taken seriously, why did you include that bullshit in point 2?

>> No.3486909

>>3486892
>RIP in piece ;_;

Server won't let me link the Onion article about his forcible removal from his trailer park home

>>3486897
>fantasies

I think it's more that whenever someone expresses an opinion that'd get le downboat on red.dit, someone like yourself yells LOL >>/POL/ and then goes on a strange rant like this.

>> No.3486924

>>3486909
>Server won't let me link the Onion article about his forcible removal from his trailer park home

How is that relevant?

>I think it's more that whenever someone expresses an opinion that'd get le downboat on red.dit, someone like yourself yells LOL >>/POL/ and then goes on a strange rant like this.

Because, as usual, that's what happened here.

>> No.3486944

>>3486924
>How is that relevant?

Because it's hilarious.

>Responding to a domestic-disturbance call, police arrived at the couple's double-wide trailer at approximately 2:15 p.m. to find Hitchens and Bodell throwing dishes at each other. When the officers attempted to remove Hitchens from the premises, the leftist intellectual became physically and verbally abusive toward the officers, calling them "shitkickers," "bitches," and "effete liberal apologists for the atrocities of late-stage capitalism."

>Because, as usual, that's what happened here.

Seems like it bro -- /pol/ is a free market of ideas where everyone gets a say. It's great, and the insensate rage that folks like yourself seem to have, at the very idea that someone you strongly disagree with gets to talk, is at once enlightening and saddening.

>> No.3486947

>>3486944
>/pol/ is a free market of ideas where everyone gets a say.
but that's wrong

If you have any opinion that contradicts le stormfront army, you get nowhere

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>>3486517
>implying /lit/ even reads that much
>implying /lit/'s true queen isn't keima

>> No.3486956

>>3486897
>>3486897

This.

>> No.3486957

>>3486944

That's fine, if you believe that I really don't care, but do you mind doing it over there?

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>leave for an hour
>mfw my thread is still here

>> No.3486967

>>3486957
>excellent example of what I was talking about

>>3486947
>has never spent a minute there

Just because stormfriends post on /pol/ does not mean only stormfriends post on /pol/. The nature of a free market of ideas involves everyone getting a say.

I mean, the rejoicing at Romney's humiliating defeat, and the gluteal infuriation of his prematurely-triumphant supporters, went on for days.

>> No.3486968

>>3486947
You can bluster just like them, anything else is not guaranteed.

>> No.3486970

>>3486962
not like /lit/ is the fastest board in the world

>> No.3486975

>>3486968
I'm not really sure what you think that means.

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>>3486970
I expected the janitors to delete this thread by now. This thread is just pathetic attempt by the sophists of /lit/ to pretend that they`re better than /pol/ by calling them racists.