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Hey /lit/,

I have a simple question. Why is it that women worked so hard to get the right to vote, only to vote for white men? When the saves were freed and given the right to vote during reconstruction, the instantly voted Hiram Revels into office. I'm sure if their lives weren't later endangered by voting, more blacks would have sprung up in official positions of power.

Women won't be killed for voting for other women, so why is it that they never took advantage of what they fought for?

Maybe you guys can point me in the right direction, maybe some writings on the subject. I don't want to go to /pol/ I think you guys are better.

Thanks

>> No.3555008

You might be interested in the NWSA and the AWSA.

>> No.3555014

Maybe they believed that the white men they voted for were the best candidates.

>> No.3555016

>>3555014
And that was obviously not the case for years, I want to know why they didn't break away.

>> No.3555028

Women got the right to vote in 1872.

The first election after that (in 1874) was between the leaders of three parties Benjamin Disraeli, William Ewart Gladstone, and Isaac Butt. They couldn't vote a women into power, as the newly liberated women didn't have a choice in who the party leaders were. It wasn't until Thatcher that a woman got voted in as Prime Minister.

>> No.3555035

>>3555028
Hmm it looks like I forgot to mention that i'm asking specifically about American women, thanks though.

>> No.3555043

You can lead the horse to water, but you can't make it drink. American women mostly enjoyed their slavery, and if a few of them were enlightened enough to see it as the shitshow that it was and seek to overthrow it, they could not convince the many who had not seen through. And to this day they still haven't.

>> No.3555063

>America let the slaves vote before women.

>> No.3555066

>>3555043

>comparing women's position in the past to that of slaves

That's pretty offensive to slaves.

>> No.3555069

>>3555003
>Why is it that women worked so hard to get the right to vote, only to vote for white men?

Because it was white men who gave them the right to vote and the illusion of the won struggle.

>> No.3555072

>>3555063
well, male (former) slaves, but yes.
>>3555066
not that guy, but not all slavery is the same, and he didn't connect the slavery of the blacks to the slavery of the women

>> No.3555073

>>3555066
Oh God, that was painful. You're at least four years away from your first open mic night.

>> No.3555075

>>3555066

Your post was pretty offensive to my penis. Please try to make your posts more arousing in future, bro.

>> No.3555077

>>3555073

I can't decipher what your post is about. I wasn't trying to be funny if that is your implication.

>> No.3555080

>>3555072
Women have never been slaves. They've been worshipped throughout all history.

>> No.3555084

>>3555080

To be an object of worship is to be an object. That is a slave.

>> No.3555094

>>3555016
How was that "obviously not the case"? Can you provide some evidence to back up this shit your spewing. Correlation is not causation.

>> No.3555102

Don't forget the temperance movement which helped ratify the eighteenth amendment and later volstead act, which held the alcoholic beverages industry back from industrialization.

>> No.3555103

>>3555094
I meant the men they voted for were obviously not the best candidate for there wants and demands, no need to get hostile.

>> No.3555104

>>3555084

u wot

>> No.3555105

>>3555084
You are fucking retarded.

>> No.3555107

>>3555103
their*
shiiitt

>> No.3555111

>>3555080
they were slaves in the same way north koreans today are slaves

>> No.3555112

>>3555103
Not that guy, but no one asked you to clarify. You were asked to provide something for us that would back up your statement. This is simple shit.

>> No.3555138

>>3555105

go become god or a woman, report back

>> No.3555137

>>3555103
How did you come to that conclusion though? Can you provide any proof that any of the other candidates would have done anything better for them specifically? It is like watching a movie where a guy shows mercy and decides not to kill a bad person. Everyone watching says "I would have killed that piece of shit", but when the gun is actually in your hand and you have it pointed at someone, it is much much harder.

>> No.3555136

>>3555112
they didn't run for major electoral positions and men opposing women's suffrage and overall rights continued to take seats year after year. what do you want, names? just look at any republican of the time period.

i mean shit, wadsworth's wife was the president of nswa and he still said fuck you.

>> No.3555142

>>3555111
No, that is bollocks. North Koreans are miserable. Women are pampered.

>> No.3555146

>>3555137
>Can you provide any proof that any of the other candidates would have done anything better for them specifically?

you can only go by word of the candidate. it still holds true that men against women's rights took office after women already receive the right to vote, even if all women didn't vote for these men they still allowed their spouses to.

it doesn't seem like they cared enough about their rights in the first place.

>> No.3555147

>>3555028

Well that's just plain wrong. Women got the right to vote in 1918 in the UK, and not until 1928 could all women over 21 vote, only women who were houseowners and over 30 could vote until then (virtually none whatsoever).

OP, y'all retarded. You don't get rights by putting someone of the same minority as you at the head of government. Unless enough people want something, fuck all gets done. Things like congress and house of commons get in the way. It's all about majority ruling - thinking that getting people into positions of power means anything more than their political careers is naive.

Plus, ya know, a lot of women didn't even want the vote when they got it. They believed everything men told them about their inferiority for the most part - until civil rights groups started changing national opinion. Many women either didn't want to vote or just voted how their SOs told them too.

>> No.3555148

>>3555003
Can't she work on that belly, God, my is not perfect put I don't show it around.

>> No.3555152

>>3555136
Well, I'm going to say for one that perhaps not all women think their suffrage in this day in age is something that is so fucking paramount that it 100 percent influences their involvement in politics.

Cmon.

>> No.3555157

>>3555142

Women are also miserable, in case you haven't noticed.

>> No.3555163

>>3555152
i'm not sure about that

i don't think a black man of the time would have voted for someone who didn't respect black/civil rights

>> No.3555173

>>3555163

blacks freed from slavery broadly, and rightly, no longer felt any loyalty to whites. but women still have not gotten over the Stockholm syndrome with which the age of marriage inculcated them. they voted for their husbands.

>> No.3555174

>>3555147
>You don't get rights by putting someone of the same minority as you at the head of government.
I don't think OP or anyone in this thread inferred that, sir.

>> No.3555175

>>3555157
Men have higher suicide rates. Are we slaves too?

>> No.3555178

>>3555173
Because women have always been better off than men. The smart and non-ugly ones realise this.

>> No.3555177
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3555177

>>3555175
Slaves to the pussy

>> No.3555190

>>3555178

they're literally not human. I fail to see how they're "better off"

>> No.3555192

>>3555177
that's a nice vagina

>> No.3555195

>>3555173
fair enough

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3555202

>>3555192
>>3555177
I've seen better.

>> No.3555205

>>3555202
Is that asian?

>> No.3555223

>>3555205
Possibly, unless that skin tone lies to me

>> No.3555228

>>3555205
It's a rubber ass.

>> No.3555233

>>3555228
I was right.

>> No.3555245

>>3555228
naw it's real, shes on r/gonewild

>> No.3555257

>>3555245
details pls

>> No.3555259

>>3555257
sorry i don't remember :( saved the image from her post months ago

it's one of the top most upvoted though, you should be able to find it easily.