[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature

View post   
File: 101 KB, 700x553, womanwatchingmoviepic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3736443 No.3736443 [Reply] [Original]

Why do girls seem to hate reading so much?

>> No.3736444

Someone is going to correct Sunhawk.

>> No.3736460

>>3736443
>implying many people read in their 20s
>implying many people read at all

>> No.3736466

>>3736443
and when they do read, it's garbage like twilight

I don't know OP. Probably for the same reason they don't play grand strategy games.
too emotional, no appreciation for logic and the finer things in life

>> No.3736472

because they're busy taking care of the kids Sunsawk

>> No.3736476

Because why would they waste their precious youth on things like reading. Men on the other hand have their entire lives to hone their craft and intelligence.

>> No.3736478

more 20 year old women read better fiction than similarly aged men go choke on a fat dick you dumb cunt

>> No.3736480

>>3736443
I love reading.
But I can't. I try. But I can't.
It's horrible.

>> No.3736487

>>3736478
Harry Potter isn't good.

>> No.3736494

Males have a tendency to find stimulation from abstract systems (analytic philosophy, mathematics, etc) and competition/conquest.

Women tend to be more social animals.

Much of what /lit/ would deem "good literature" fall into the former category. If /lit/ enjoyed literature involving child rearing, positive social aesthetics, bukkake gang-rape sex, and 1-dimensional "romantic" protagonists, our demographic would be quite different.

>> No.3736498

>>3736487
nor is grr martin, tolkein, lovecraft, warcraft fanfiction and whatever the fuck the 20 year old nerd stereotype reads
also, late pass, harry potter isn't a thing anymore
regardless though, you have the rest of the day to tell me why harry potter isn't fantastic literature

>> No.3736500

>>3736443
I know more women who read good books than man who read good books. However, the percentage of males that read good books is higher. Women just read more. The women who don't are really loud about, because they are extroverted and thus express their opinions loud.

>> No.3736509

>>3736494
>positive social aesthetics, bukkake gang-rape sex, and 1-dimensional "romantic" protagonists, our demographic would be quite different.
And this is why 50 Shades of Grey was a thing.

>> No.3736513

the other day i went to the feria del libro
and it was full
so many people
i didn't even go
i went to the zoo
because of the people
i might go today

>> No.3736516

>>3736498
>why harry potter isn't fantastic literature
Hey, its a well written book for kids and all but nothing more.
Oh almost forgot, OP is a fag.

>> No.3736519

>>3736513
i like thatr

>> No.3736528

Interesting observation.

I know maybe forty women of whom I see ten or twenty a week, and about twice that many men. Now, I don't bring up books a lot with them, but I know of only two of the men who have read a book in the last six months, and all of the women have read several. The men read non fiction books on subjects like economics, history, the biographies of baseball players and how-to books. The women read fantasy, horror, poetry and humor, literary criticism, erotica, books on bodybuilding and backpacking, murder mysteries and what you'd call young adult. One of them read's pretty much exclusively books about the navy or ships.

The point is, these girls range in age from seventeen to their forties, and the men from about that same range. In my opinion,and experience, women read way, way more than men do. Anybody else see this?

>> No.3736531

Most of the girls I know in their 20's and teens read more books than I do.

(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)

>> No.3736536

>>3736528
When I'm at the bookstore the amount of women there is usually double the amount of men.

>> No.3736542

>>3736536
Books are hip. Women only pretend to read for social status. They'll say they have read all the books they bought, they have not an inkling of an understanding towards them.

>> No.3736544

I encounter way more women readers than men (and not just Harry Potter shit either), but the best read people I've known have been men.

>> No.3736547

My girlfriend reading Kafka right in front of me would like to have a word with you. You're searching for girls in the wrong places, op.

>> No.3736548

>>3736542
This neckbeard levels are way too high.

>> No.3736554

More like "why don't men read?"

>> No.3736557

>>3736542
I find the opposite to be true
.>>3736528
I 'm this guy. It could make a difference that most of the women I know are lesbians and bisexuals, who are not that concerned with social status, and the bisexual ones seem way smarter than either the straight or gay ones.

>> No.3736558

>>3736554
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-pinter/why-men-dont-read-how-pub_b_549491.html

Dammit, forgot my link.

>> No.3736565

>>3736557
bisexual is just code for slut.

>> No.3736568

>>3736565
hetero is code for massive whore

>> No.3736591

I know a girl who reads some good lit. Apparently she read The Picture of Dorian Gray and Notes from Underground. I would wife, but she's untrustworthy.

>> No.3736596

>>3736591
but those are the type of books that you typically read within the first two or three months of discovering reading as a serious hobby.

>> No.3736598

women read a lot more than men ime. english classes, on the train, it's all mainly women.

>> No.3736612

>>3736498
>why harry potter isn't fantastic literature
It's not to my taste because it's literally just a story. I prefer to read books that have some meaning behind them. I like philosophy and fiction, so philosophical fiction is my favourite. I also like classics, like the Iliad and the Odyssey, because I find classical history particularly interesting.

It's bad because there are a lot of plot-holes and inconsistencies and the stories are overly formulaic and repetitive, and not in the way of the Greek epics, which were formulaic because they had to be memorised and were passed down orally, the Greeks having not yet discovered writing; her books are formulaic because they follow the same structure: Harry is at home with the Dursleys, Harry goes to school, but trouble is afoot which results in a confrontation with Voldemort (in some form), Harry defeats Voldemort, but celebrations are cut short because he must return to the Dursleys. Cue start of next book. It's dull.

>> No.3736644

>>3736565
>>3736568

Bi girls do have a lot more partners and a lot more sex than het girls. But they're also smarter, nicer, saner and easier to get along with. They have a reputation for cheating and lying, but from personal observation that's mostly because their partners are very suspicious and jealous of them, and they have a lot of partners so the word gets around. Also, Het girls really, really hate them. And I've never met a het girl who was a whore. A bitch, yes, and a liar on occasion, but hardly ever promiscuous at all. And they read a lot different books.

>> No.3736700

>>3736565
>>3736568
How is any of that a problem? You want to wait till marriage because sex is "a special bound to share between two partners chosen by the lord" ?

>> No.3736741

>>3736612
uh why do you think Harry Potter doesn't have any meaning

>> No.3736750

>>3736528
I kind of agree.

I know a lot of women who read, but at the risk of sounding elitist, they pretty much exclusively read shit like John Green or other things that manufacture problems for little white girls.

However, I also don't know a lot of guys who read anything worth a damn.

I'm all alone, /lit/.

>> No.3736773

>>3736513
Sounds like Kharms.

>> No.3736775

I gave my girlfriend Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas three months ago and she won't fucking read it
Every time I try to get it back she claims she's getting around to it
She just plays fucking iphone games all day god fucking damnit

>> No.3736786

>>3736741
Flat characters for example.

>> No.3736804

>>3736513
how was the zoo?

>> No.3736811

>>3736700
I don't mind girls with sexual experience. I mind if they're cum dumpsters, though. Promiscuity is indicative of an unhealthy psyche, in my experience. The most batshit women I've ever met have been sluts.

>> No.3736816

>>3736775
>She just plays fucking iphone games all day god fucking damnit

How can you even bear the company of people like that? I hope she's really really good at sex or something.

>> No.3736819

Most girls don't have dedicated hobbies because they have friends and television.

>>3736443
>that pic is adorable and gave me a feel rash

>> No.3736821
File: 283 KB, 500x500, 1359409533044.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3736821

Jesus why is everyone making pronouncements on the nature of women?

Why is it that because you don't know many girls who are into the kind of fiction /lit/ likes you feel like you have realised some universal truth. Even if you knew a lot of girls who liked "good books" (eg books we like), and I know a few, how can you extrapolate that into a statement about women and literature without being at all self-aware of why you are making that statement.

WTF GUYS. HAS POSTMODERN THEORY TAUGHT YOU NOTHING?! DECENTRE YO SELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YO SELF

>> No.3736824

>>3736741
Because it's a children's series (well, it started out as one; I would say it had turned into a teen angst series by its end), of course, but so what? I only gave that as a reason why I don't like it, not as a reason why it's actually bad. I gave reasons why it is bad in the second paragraph.

>> No.3736826

>>3736821
Damn, that is a fantastic ass.

>> No.3736836

>>3736821
>DECENTER YOURSELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF

We haven't made these statements from personal observation alone, these sentiments and findings have been slowly discovered collectively by males, females, and gender-neutral publications alike.

>> No.3736846

must be troll thread

women read much more than men in my personal experience ( and 70% female on goodreads http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/08/21/report-social-network-demographics-in-2012/ )

for every female that reads twilight and harry potter there is a male reading LOTR, lovecraft, vonnegut, etc

if anything females dominate and will continue to dominate the arts

>> No.3736859

>>3736846
they dominate at consuming arts, not making it. and lotr, lovecraft and vonnegut are significantly better than bloody twilight.

>> No.3736864

>>3736859
>they dominate at consuming arts, not making it
>Why do girls seem to hate reading so much?

>> No.3736892

>>3736826
I came here from the front page just to look at it closer.

>> No.3736898

>>3736859
changing goalposts like a boss

>> No.3736905

>>3736892
>I came here
Me too.

>> No.3736907

>>3736898
i never claimed women read less than men (although i think it's more common for men to be extremely well read). i was opening a new point of contention.

>> No.3736910

>>3736826
You can clearly see that cellulite has been airbrushed out. Not that I particularly mind a bit of cellulite, personally.

>> No.3736931

>>3736907
Well, then you just missed the original topic.

>it's more common for men to be extremely well read
Dunno about that, I know more well read women, but given that I usually hang with chicks my experience is probably not very accurate for the big picture. Wouldnt be surprised if the ratio was close to50-50

>> No.3736965
File: 197 KB, 1920x1080, 1358644498653.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3736965

From my experience, I have "known" more girls that did well academically, so they must have read a decent amount of books. I hope.

From actual friendships, I have met more girls that read than boys, but what they read wasnt that great. Hunger Games and the like (honestly, its like they all meet at once to decide what they all will be reading. And then they do it). The only english or creative writing majors I know are girls, but they werent exactly well read. Then again, I only know three boys that are well read. Those three boys though are fucking geniuses.

So Id say its like a bell curve. You get boys on the two extremes, read none or fucking genius level, and you get girls in the middle, read a good amount but nothing special, at least not consistently.

>> No.3737017

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/will-weaver/boys-and-reading_b_504201.html
This one is good too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-pinter/why-men-dont-read-how-pub_b_549491.html
has already been cited here.

Boys and girls are not equal obviously.
Girls have an early advantage in language development and literacy.
Moreover, boys need more activity than girls.
Our education is biased in favour of passivity.
The majority of punishments in school go to boys.
Most teachers are women.
Most books advertised target women, with emotional titles and mushy, bubbly, esoteric, "cute" covers.

Reading book is a passive activity, and everything it's associated with in our culture is feminine.
Moreover, when you're asked to write an essay on a free topic, violence and graphic details will get you a bad grade and other issues while drama will get you praise.

So no, boys and men don't read that much, but that's because nobody teaches them that reading can be fun, that books are not all about romance stories...
Men read more non-fiction simply because most fiction that gets written isn't fiction that men could like.

>> No.3737022

>>3737017
>tfw literate alpha male reading women pussy magnet

captcha: shyness nualsot

>> No.3737036

>>3737017
Why arethere no books that transcends gender dick sucking? Well what would be the qualities of such a book.

>> No.3737040

>>3737036
i know a lot of girls that like game of thrones

>> No.3737041

>>3736965
Doing well academically has nothing to do with reading. I know plenty of people who have done well academically who have never read a book in their lives. I know some people at Oxford and Cambridge who are borderline illiterate.

Academic success has nothing to do with books.

>> No.3737042

>>3737036
also the classics

>> No.3737049

>>3737041
>Academic success has nothing to do with books.

Almost untrue. Well depends on the field. STEM requires you to read on theory. Philosophy requires you to read, philosophy. I can't think of a field that doesn't involve reading.

>> No.3737050

>>3737041
>academically successful
>without reading

I can't think of any academia like that.
Is there a blind academia somewhere?

>> No.3737063

>>3736612
>It's not to my taste blah blah
Potter has meaning to it. Several lectures, articles, and books (look up John Granger) attest to Christian undertones. Rowling said the symbolism was heavy herself. The book is inspirational and helps people understand life, if nothing else. It's fine if you don't appreciate it yourself, but that does not stop HP fro being fantastic literature

>It's bad lalala
The repetitive, formulaic structure is similar to our human experience. There's summer, then there's school. Clearly, though, you have not read far into the series, because this structure quickly breaks down. I'm not sure what plot-holes or inconsistencies you're speaking of. The world and the characters are polished.

Sure, HP is no Greek epic. Not even close to the level. But that doesn't prevent it from being fantastic literature.

>> No.3737074

>>3736846
hey what's wrong with vonnegut

>> No.3737168

>>3737017
>violence and graphic details will get you a bad grade and other issues while drama will get you praise
Maybe because the first is usually written by everybody who can hold a pen, while decent drama needs a lot more skill and development to be actually interesting?

>> No.3737177

>>3737063
>The book is inspirational and helps people understand life,
Get horkruxs, fuck bitches? What is the big moral of the story if Vodly ends up doing everything himself?

>I'm not sure what plot-holes or inconsistencies you're speaking of.
The time shit was a bad joke and even without it, the 4th book was idiotic, pointless bullshit since fake Moody could use the portkey strategy literally at any moment.

>> No.3737216

>>3736846
>70% female on goodreads

Goodreads is a social networking site.

>> No.3737232

>>3737063
>plot-holes or inconsistencies you're speaking of.
There's a dozen of teachers and hundreds of pupils for one thing.
Example: the quidditch matches happen with stadiums filled of people...

That inconsistency shows in the movie, not sure if you can prove it wrong in the books.

>> No.3737234

>>3737168
Yeah the Illiad could have been written by anybody.
On the other hand only a genius can write fanfiction on the level of Twilight.

>> No.3737245

>>3736460

/Thread

>> No.3737247

>>3737234

>the Iliad
>written

lol

>> No.3737253

>>3737232
This is an interesting idea, wonder if somebody can calculate the amount of students and teachers needed.. While movies sure fuck it up, well not just that, they generally ignore the book, the original story got a lot more teachers than shown like the ghost guy for history or the bitch that got murdered at start for B7. Doubt Hogwards itself got much more than 400 students, so the teachers named should be fine. The classes seem huge too, involving multiply houses.

>> No.3737257

woah bro back the fuck up

fifty shades of gray, hunger games, the list goes on

>> No.3737256

>>3737234
>implying Illidad is only action
>implying Illidad is a novel

>> No.3737268

>>3737257
i took the time to watch the hunger games movie the other day.

i thought battle royale was way better, and i hate subtitles.

>> No.3737538

>>3737253
>There's another one I like which doesn't annoy me: the population of the wizarding world. JK Rowling admits this, says she can't do maths. But think. There's ten people in Gryffindor in Harry's year. That's 40 people in Harry's year in all of Hogwarts, give or take. 40 times 7 equals 280. Yet Hogwarts apparently has a student population of one thousand. I mean there's some feeble excuses, like that was the year the wizarding war was at its peak, birth rates dropped but still. With 40 people graduating each year how is the wizarding world supposed to have a sustainable workforce. The ministry would employ thousands. St Mungo's would employ hundreds. And then there's private businesses like on Diagon Alley, Gringotts, people like Charlie who work with dragon's and other animals, Quidditch, schools. There simply isn't the population to sustain the amount of jobs necessary to keep the wizarding world running.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090717220744AAwLIEh

A lot of people have been doing them I think.

>>3737247
I guess it must have just materialized from thin air into books then.

>>3737256
Who said it's a novel? I've never written a novel for school, I mostly wrote essays.
The Illiad has a good deal of action and gory details.

>> No.3737549

>>3737538
Also I like all the plotholes that involve magical objects.
A little like the "why didn't they just fly on eagles to Mordor?!" deal except all throughout the books...

>> No.3737584

I love to read. And I'm just another one of you.

>> No.3737593

>>3737584
do u want to b my gf

pls respond

>> No.3737667
File: 97 KB, 421x512, 1288214113738.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3737667

>>3736498
>nor is grr martin, tolkein,

>> No.3737673

>>3737593
It's not in me to read romance. But marry me to some uncharted sf or lit. birds might sing.
this forum and it's discussions of gender.

>> No.3737685
File: 46 KB, 524x800, 25254245.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3737685

>>3736443
tfw no qt gf to play around with my body parts while I try to make her watch my favorite movie, and she ends up falling asleep on me.

>> No.3737704

So, rural England, early 20's...
It all comes to together
We're onto you Sunhawk#sunhawk

>> No.3737708

>>3736460
it's true since im in college I read less caue Im more busy

>> No.3737712

>>3736598
yeah but most of them read garbage ... We are taking about real litterature

>> No.3737714

better question: why should I care?

>> No.3737721

>>3737714
Because it's a Sunhawk thread

>> No.3737724

>women doing anything that isn't for attention or to advance their social situation

pick zero

>> No.3737747

I hate women.

>> No.3737764

Give me wizards, dire wolves, hobbits, the zombie plague through an STD, Nephilim, animorphs, Starks, tributes, Howl and Sophie, a golden compass, Guts (if you get this reference, you are awesome), The sword of truth, Prince Caspian, Crank, Brisingr, the rabbit and his watch. Give me all of these, and I am putty in your manly hands. Quote them with me, and read them by my side, I am yours forever.

>> No.3737773

Coming from someone who can't even spell it...

>> No.3737776

>>3736821
>WTF GUYS. HAS POSTMODERN THEORY TAUGHT YOU NOTHING?!

Not at all, no.

>> No.3737781

>reading is seen as being "smart"
>being "smart" is viewed as being hardworking
>style is based in commodity fetishism
>a large part of commodity fetishism is not only having lots of money for fashionable things but also not having to work hard for them
>therefore, working hard is unfashionable
>reading, again, is seen as hardworking
>therefore reading is unfashionable

This can apply to just about anyone, but girls who are in their prime dating years are particularly likely to be concerned with style.

>> No.3737782

>>3737764
And more! I will give you the casket of ancient winters, and a shadow sewed on at the heel. I will give you a thousand ships beyond the tempters veil, and a derelict following the ditch of cygnus. I will give you Tiga Belas and his whip, and the necronauts of yana, and the pale, awful siren with the bloody tears.

Come with me to the frozen plains of Scorpio, let me walk with you in the pit of awful lights, between the crystal trees. We will plunder the hoards of Xotalanc together, and bathe in the hippocrene.

>> No.3737891

>>3737782
We'll travel through the forgotten realm, fight the Thread on the backs of Greens and Bronze, watch Beauty's release from the exotic sands of the Sultan.

(Sorry I'm not as well written as you. I also have grease from fried chicken on my fingers :/)

>> No.3737895

>>3737041
Hows dem sour grapes?

>> No.3737914

Why don't girls in their 20's do ANYTHING?

It's because they don't have to, duh. They generally get more into reading in their 40's, but it's mostly woman-porn.

>> No.3737927

>>3737914
LOL 50 Shades of Grey
Me and my friend read it on a whim. It was terrible. Sold it to some 40yr old woman for three times for what it was worth, because it was out of stock at wal mart

>> No.3737934

>>3737927
Well, occassionally you'll get a 40 year old woman who actually reads smart things. Rarely though.

I wonder what the new generation of 40 year olds will be like? My mom was 40 around the time she was raising me and she was a total Woodstock liberal believer that honestly thought good vs evil was a real struggle in the world.

>> No.3737947

>>3737934
Well I can tell you it won't be the smartest generation of 40 year olds, if they all turn out to be the idiots I went to school with. I have a small hope that the "reading is for fags", #yolo generation will smarten up. Otherwise, America is more doomed than it is now.

>> No.3737957

I am a 11th grade English teacher and I notice it really is tied in amount of reading (as in reading for enjoyment and not a requirement). I will say although, there is a difference in the taste of what the genders read. You can probably guess.

>> No.3737964

>>3737947
You want to know why they were so stupid, or what you define as stupid? They were children!
Do you really believe that children of past generations were not as dumb and goofy? I will say that newer generations have been getting more and more disrespectful, cold hearted, and has less patience.

Off out!

>> No.3737969

>>3737964
No, I reserve using stupid for special cases. I know the difference between childhood and stupidity. Sorry I didn't clarify.

>> No.3737973

>>3736443
what are you talking about?
girls at least the ones i know read a lot...

>> No.3738009

>>3737969
And what is that difference, in your belief? I have a belief in that difference myself, but I would like to hear other's to possibly improve my own!

>> No.3738046

>>3737964
You do realize every generation is worse than the last, right?

>> No.3738052

>>3737891
Let me show you samarkand, I will meet you in samarra. We will ride wooden horses through the night air, And picnic outside Khara sehr. Have you seen Barsoom at twilight, the moons, behind the temple as the streets return to turmoil and the ships fly out? Or the dawn above Koshtra Pivrarca, the summer in tintagel, where the rooks nest on the bones of Arthur dream? I will show you, where her sisters burried pale medusa, where the branstock fell. Upon that rock where the seven swans lit for the night, we'll call up nereus, and arion, on his horn will play our epithalamion. And in ohio, nineteen ten, on Ray Bradburys front porch. we'll chart the dry canals, and I will kiss your eyes. and leave you asleep, ttill tomorrow.

>> No.3738066

>>3738046
Did you put any thought into what you just typed? Was the generation who fought the crusades better than the generation we have now? Was the generation who thought racial segregation and slavery a good thing better than the generation we have now? The answer is simply no.

>> No.3738067

toasting in a sunhawk bread

>> No.3738101

>>3738052
That's it sir. Who are you?
You've just romanced the fuck out of me.

>> No.3738121

>>3738066
>Was the generation who fought the crusades better than the generation we have now? Was the generation who thought racial segregation and slavery a good thing better than the generation we have now?

Yes. Yes.

>> No.3738133

>>3738101
Not him, but now I'm jealous of this guy. I never romanced the fuck out of anyone. I still got your Berserk reference, though. And I can discuss Dante in three languages (though only very poorly in at least one of them), if you're interested.

>> No.3738155
File: 8 KB, 199x254, Imafuckface.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3738155

>>3738133
I'm actually not that smart, I just like to read a lot.
And terrible admission, but I STILL haven't read all of Dante. :/ Is this bad?

>> No.3738181

>>3738101
Alas, I'm a wandering /sci/entist who comes over here to write poems and make book suggestions while the centrifuges hum and the bright retorts disgorge dangerous wonders into flasks adorned with scrawls of arcane portent. While I eat my chicken salad and farmer's cheese sandwich with olives and drink my Arizona tea. i enjoyed romancing you.

>> No.3738190

>>3738155
Most people hardly ever read something of Dante, so I guess not. If you're planning on reading him, however, don't just go straight for the Inferno and stop at that. Because first, the Inferno is the first part of a three-parts work. It can be read independantly (all the more so than it is the first part) but it is clearly made to fit into the greater ensemble, and the two other parts are just as magnificent.

I can just advise you to read ALL of Dante in chronological order (like the translator of my edition said: "like a life") starting with the Vita Nuova. It is worth witnessing the unfolding of such a great spirit, and the all-encompassing unity that is at work in his mind since the very first verse of the very first poem.

I guess I have shown myself as the complete nerd I am now. So much for romance. Sigh.

>> No.3738199

>>3736443
I don't like the drawing style, but I do like that she appears to be gnawing on his arm in the fourth panel. 6/10.

>> No.3738200

>>3738181
How do a /scientist with /literary inclinations romance these days ? Please teach me, master.

>> No.3738206

>>3738190
Being a nerd IS romantic. You obviously have a passion for knowledge, which a turn on for me.

I will take that recommendation, and I think, get started on Friday. Its high time that I read it (them now). I loved the Odyssey, so I don't see why I won't love this as well.

>> No.3738217

>>3738200
talk to girls about what they like, and if you're genuinely interested don't be afraid to show it. But don't make a big deal about it either. And be nice. take her out for coffee and to yard sales. help her put together her bookshelves. try to keep her smiling.

>> No.3738218

>>3738206
>I loved the Odyssey, so I don't see why I won't love this as well.
I loved War and Peace, so I don't see why I won't love The Great Gatsby as well.

>> No.3738219

Not related to the thread, but since I saw, while scrolling /lit/, that some of you were discussing Dante and since I did not want to create a new thread for this, I decided to post here.

I am currently reading Boccaccio's Decameron and I would like to have suggestions of similar works and authors, excluding, of course, Dante.

Thanks. Polite sage for not being too related to the thread.

>> No.3738223 [DELETED] 

I'm a fourteen year old girl and I've read Sartre, Orwell, Plato, and just about everything else that's not YA vampire shit in our terrible school library.

I get where you're coming from though, OP. Teen girls and guys both, where I'm from, just don't read, unless it's some watered-down elementary level drivel. Gives us a bad name.

>> No.3738228

>>3738223
>I'm a 14 year old girl

No, you aren't.

>> No.3738230
File: 23 KB, 326x275, Yikes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3738230

>>3738223
>I'm a fourteen year old girl
It was nice knowing you.

>> No.3738232

>>3738228
I drove my van up to the fair one time, singing hey-o! I'm a ped-O!

>> No.3738233

>>3736443
It seems like he secretly wants a boyfriend, or perhaps a MTF.

>> No.3738236

>>3738233
You mean FtM.

MtF are worse than normal women.

>> No.3738241

>>3738206
Well thank you. Felsgoodnerd.jpeg

I haven't read the Odyssey, but Dante might prove to be very different. Less messy or random, if you will. Dante was a scholar of the highest order, an extremely ordoned mind, along with a sensitive asthetician. He's amazing in that his love poetry reeks of well-thought philosophical distinction, his philosophy brims with romantic sensitivity, his insight on language evokes politics as well as natural science. "Glorious unity" is the expression that comes to mind.
Also, last (but seriously not least) recommandation: don't read him with a too christian-averse mind. It could ruin part of the fun. Keeping in mind what you like about christianity or which christian values are still relevant in our days (compassion, respect of human life and so on) will certainly help.

>> No.3738249

>>3738218
Yes, they're two different books. I know that. I'm not completely stupid.
But I mean in the manner of which they were written, like a poem.
It captures my attention, and the rate at which I read is slower (fast reader) than normal, enabling me to really understand and enjoy it.

>> No.3738257

>>3738249
Gatsby and War and Peace are both novels, yet it's completely irrational to assume I'd enjoy both just because they are novels.

>> No.3738258

>>3738219
Petrarque (don't know how it is written in English, but since you speak French it's easier anyway).

Him, Boccacio and Dante are sometimes considered the three great spring of Italian language. You might also like what Dante's contemporaries (rivals and friend and such) wrote.

The humanists literary giants of the Renaissance could also fit. I tend to think of Dante as a pre-humanist writer (early Renaissance humanists are in some ways Dante which much less emphasis on God).

>> No.3738262

>>3738241
I feel the need to discuss things with you on a daily basis. Maybe some of your smart will rub off on me.
I am actually a mind open kind of girl, I don't look at things with an adverse mind. I think it keeps me from learning, on an intellectual and emotional level. I'll take that rec. though. Thanks!

>> No.3738273

>>3738262
see? after all that trouble i went to romancing you, you're off with some other guy, reading italian and rubbing his smart off on yourself...ah well, fickle are the ways of women....

>> No.3738276

>>3738257
Sorry you and I have different strains of thought?
I don't know why I feel the need to apologize, but I do. All I'm trying to imply, is that the way they are written is something I enjoy.

>> No.3738283

>>3738273
What would you suggest I do?
You said you travel. I thought you were implying you were moving on. Teach me the way of your words oh master. I would love to learn how to write the way you do.

>> No.3738304
File: 40 KB, 500x647, 521813_439890709417944_719500530_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
3738304

>Why don't girls in their 20s and teens read?
Cheap and easy way to flush the femanons out of hiding.
Hello ladies

>> No.3738309

>send in work for school paper
>it's accepted
>that committee is all female

>> No.3738310

>>3738283
i'm basically combining the styles of the romantics with the Persian decadent poets, and throwing a little Americana in every once in awhile. Read Kipling, Stevenson, Benet, Sandburg and the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam.

>> No.3738326

>>3738262
>I am actually a mind open kind of girl, I don't look at things with an adverse mind. I think it keeps me from learning, on an intellectual and emotional level.
Well, then you have the best attitude for a reader. Trying to squeeze as much as possible out of a book is the best way to have an enriching reading experience.

>I'll take that rec. though. Thanks!
You're very much welcome

>I feel the need to discuss things with you on a daily basis.
I was hardly ever told anything as sweet as this. Is there a way we can do this ? I don't browse /lit daily, unfortunately. I could put on a trips to make it easier, though I don't like the practice.

>Maybe some of your smart will rub off on me.
I generally sound way smarter than I am. Better avoid get caught in this trap (I was myself, for years). But I guess our conversations could be interesting. Regardless, the only way to become "smarter" (more open-minded and knowledgeable is probably closer to it) by reading is, as far as I know, to read avidly, with much dedication and curiosity, whatever you can find. The classics can disappoint you (because we tend to come to them with sky-high expectations) but keep digging them as if they really were as wonderful as people make them to be. The more effort you put into it, the more you will be rewarded. Remember-a text is only as smart as you allow it to be !

>>3738273
Don't worry bro. There are only two stages whenever I try to romance a girl:
1-awkward entrance
2-Somewhat fascinating or brilliant)sounding debut
3-Disappointing and turning off ending.

We are now in the bilk of stage two. Wait until stage three kicks off.

>> No.3738328

Women should be forbidden to learn to read.

>> No.3738333

>>3738326
Well, since you've got your dissapointment mojo a workin, I'll leave you to it. I have to get up early and try to fix my convertible top so i can finally get it out from under the tarp before the pretty weather. good night all, and pleasant dreams to those that have them

>> No.3738337

>>3738333
I'm confused now. Are you the romancing guy or the romanced girl ?

>> No.3738339

>>3738326
email? I will dedicate one solely to you and my Persian influenced speaker/writer.

This is my first trip through /lit/.
Actually, my first visit to 4chan in like 2 years. Wow.

>> No.3738345

>>3738310
I will, thank you!
Also, (although I feel its a little too late to say something now) I would love to speak with you on a daily basis as well. I need better (more intellectual) influences in my life. BE ONE OF THEM.

>> No.3738359

>>3738339
Okay for the email (I'm the nerd, not the romantic Persian). How will communicate it without giving it away to all of /lit (that's not many people, but still) ?

>> No.3738361

>>3738359
>Not having a throwaway email address.

Get off the internet you fucking pleb idiot.

>> No.3738371

>OP's never met a girl other then his mom

Sucks to be you OP

>> No.3738380

>>3738359
Gimme a second..

>> No.3738385

>>3738345
happy to help. and you seem nice, I do have to sleep though. make an email and I'll send you some contact info if you like if this thread is still here tomorrow.

>> No.3738387

>>3738258
Thanks, I'll look for Petrarque.

>> No.3738388

>>3738359
Just click on muh name.
I can just delete and spam everything else if need be.

>> No.3738404

>>3738385
Why thank you sir. I'll just post the email I suppose, not like its going to do a lot of harm.
companioningcube@gmail.com

With that said, I do have a playdate with a friend of mine to play some L4D, and I also have PSY homework to get done...I'll stay tuned in for about half an hour for more comments,

>> No.3738427

>>3738404
Dante-lving nerd here. I will now go to sleep (it's 4:30 AM where I live, no shit) but I will remember the email because it's easy, and later in the week I will create a gmail account.

>> No.3738438

>>3738404
fag

>> No.3738445

>>3738438
OMG HOW DID YOU KNOW I LOVE COCK
>>3738427
DON'T YOU FORGET MAN :) Night

>> No.3738464

>>3738427
How beta can you possibly be. Holy shit.

>> No.3738485

Most of my friends read. It's the shitty north american culture that prevents women from reading.