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I started reading the Gospels and some of the NT, and really it's not as bad as I thought it would be.

NewTestament God is way way different than the mosaic jew OT God.

I'm wondering if the Quran is similar? Anyone read it? Is it comparable to the NT or more like OT?

>> No.3816425

Theologically, more like OT (one God, rejects the concept of the Trinity). Ethically... little of column A, little of column B.

>> No.3816423

gospels are pretty decent, except John goes on the deep end with the whole "faith" thing

seems like mark, matt and luke were more interested in talking about jesus the good guy and being nice to others

>> No.3816434

You're supposed to read it in the original language. It rhymes and stuff

>> No.3816432

revelations on acid is awesome

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>>3816432

I wish I could meet the dude who wrote revelations, what a fucken psycho

>> No.3816446

>>3816439
You mean the dude who wrote a letter using lots of metaphors and shit, under the guise of describing a crazy dream he had?

Not really surprising it seems bizarre.

>> No.3816447

Just out of curiosity, if I wanted to read the Qu'ran and the Bible which versions if any in particular should I go for?

This is probably asked a lot

>> No.3816458
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>>3816447
For the Bible, the NRSV. I don't know about the Quran.

>> No.3816457

>Quran similar.
Its mostly about how to treat your wife and children like shit. No where near as interesting as the old or new testaments.

>> No.3816462

>>3816447

RSV for Bible is fine.
Dunno about Quran.

>> No.3816463

>>3816447
Not sure about the Qur'an, but the best English translation of the Bible is the NRSV or RSV.

The NRSV gets flak from people who liked older versions, even though it's a perfectly good translation, because it tries to be gender neutral in a lot of cases where prior English translations used the male pronoun. The thing is, it only does this in cases where the original text was unclear regarding gender. In the past, in English, we used male pronouns to refer to people of an unknown gender, whereas now we're more clear about this, and say "he or she" or whatever. It's basically just a matter of personal preference. I like the NRSV better because I know for sure when the text is clearly saying "he" and when it's either saying both or not specifying.

>> No.3816469

>>3816457
>Its mostly about how to treat your wife and children like shit


This makes sense in its own parameters.

>> No.3816470

>>3816447

The Qu'ran only has one "version", supposedly. Thats a big deal for them that the word has remained unchanged since the Prophet wrote it down. It has since been shown that there are different early revisions but those are all lllooonnnggg out of print. We're talking lifetime of the Prophet and soon after. There is only one official version, which in turn has official "approved" translations into other languages. There are some "unapproved" translations out there but they are much less common and they are much less different than, say, the King James version vs the New International Version or whatever.

>> No.3816473

>>3816447

Bible: NRSV or KJV.
Qur'an: Arberry.

>> No.3816475

>>3816470
Which interestingly makes it very easy for us to know what life was like when the book was written because technologically and intellectually/artistically/academically the culture has advanced almost nothing.

>> No.3816476

For the bible you should read the New American Bible. The others suffer from OT books being torn out.

You wouldn't want to miss out on the middle of other books you read either.

>> No.3816484

Jefferson bible is fine.

takes out all the stupid shit.

>> No.3816485

>>3816473
>>3816462
>>3816458

Just to check, RSV stands for Revised Standard Version right?

>>3816463

Are there any other differences between the two?

>>3816476

That's interesting

>> No.3816491

>>3816470
>which in turn has official "approved" translations into other languages. There are some "unapproved" translations out there but they are much less common and they are much less different

Huh? There is no authority which "approves" of Koran translations... some are financed and propagated by certain governments or organizations, but that's a different issue.

>> No.3816516

There is no "original quran"

muhammed didn't write shit. The quran was written 20-40 years after muhammed according to what scribes could remember and make up.

Same as any other religious book.

>> No.3816521

I thought the Bible was boring until I read The Koran.

>> No.3816518

>>3816485

It's true.
You can find the bible with either 73 or 66 books in it. Get one with 73.

>> No.3816948

How can you get through those?

>> No.3816974

All right. I thought the brown haired guy on the left was Lee from Card Captors...

>> No.3816995

The prophet Muhammad never wrote down his revelations from God. In fact, the Qu'ran was never meant to be a set of codes for living, it was only meant to detail the Muhammad's revelations in particular. By the time Muhammad died there were about 8 different versions of the "Qu'ran" in circulation, mostly used for sectarian division and population control.

>> No.3817947

why do some have 73 and some have 66?
Wouldn't that go against reasoning?

>> No.3817963

>>3816439
>>3816446
Sounds like Gospel of John

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Do I even need to say anything?

>> No.3818015

>>3817947
Protestants don't have apocrypha.

>> No.3818038

>>3816475
>because technologically and intellectually/artistically/academically the culture has advanced almost nothing.

Don't try and bring in your erroneous ignorant pol tier shit into this thread.

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>>3817971
>Leaving out D&C and PoGP
Do you even LDS?

>> No.3818282

>>3816485
>Are there any other differences between the two?
Possibly slight phrasing differences, but no change of meaning.

>> No.3818302

>>3816995
Muhammad couldn't write, but the 114 sura's began life as oral poems by Muhammad.

>> No.3818346

>>3817971
"It is chloroform in print."

>> No.3818464

>>3818015

but wouldn't they want all the books?

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>>3816484

>> No.3819936

>>3816402
>this image provided by someone that never read the fucking book

>> No.3821643

>>3816447
In my opinion the best bible is the New Jerusalem Bible.