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461489 No.461489 [Reply] [Original]

Do you think they are writers?

>> No.461494

A writer - one who writes.
/thread

>> No.461497

people who make signs?
probably

>> No.461509

No.

>> No.461520

>>461494

If you aren't doing it well, you aren't a writer.

>> No.461523

A writer is someone who gets actually something for his writing (so a blogger who can at least earn something, even little bit or get a substantial amount of attention is one).
Everybody else just writes.

>> No.461526

Sorry, but bloggers are not real writers.

>> No.461527

>>461520
Who defines "well"?

>> No.461529

Depends on how much the blogger writes.

I have seen some bloggers who does nothing but just writing 2 lines of what happened during their day, they are worthless writers.

I have seen some bloggers who wrote 15.000 words on something that mattered. They are not good writers, but they are about to become.

>> No.461536

>>461529

but you have the whole quality vs quantity debate...

>> No.461537

Well, they're writers in the sense of that they're certainly writing something.

Too bad nobody gives two shits about what they write most of the time.

>> No.461553

Kinda depends on WHAT they write. I mean, are they writing stories for their blog entries? While blogs are like books in the sense that they convey messages, TV and radio do too but those don't fall under writing either.

>> No.461555

What is that pic from?

>> No.461567

>>461555
A remarkably vituperative sign in front of Austin's Beerland Bar, captured during SXSW

>> No.461602
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461602

Im an ex-blogger, and my experience with blogging and interactions with bloggers can be summed up in one word:

Pompous


that being said, I dont see why they wouldn't qualify as writers.


pic unrelated

>> No.461608

Good blogs just use it as a way of delivering content to a wide audience. You might as well exclude everyone who isn't a dead tree writer too.

>> No.461657

austin is so exhausting sometimes. i'm so glad i'm not at SXSW. however, my friend ended up chatting up bill murray for about 30 seconds.

>> No.461675

They can be writers. Most of them suck fucking donkey-balls but some bloggers are decent. Like my mom, for example, her blogs are actually funny and witty and entertaining to read. But most aren't like that at all.

>> No.461687

Robert Darnton has written extensively on the parallels between the internet age and the age of Enlightenment. He had an article recently in which he compared some of the libelles and "philosophical works" from 18th century France to blogs and micro-blogs: they are often quite trashy; they often serve the same purpose (smearing people) and so on.

We don't remember the authors of any of those works but I suspect we would still say that they were writers.

>> No.461910

>>461675
>Like my mom

Looks like you lost

>> No.461951

paid bloggers should just die

>> No.461978

HELL NO. There are good writers who blog, but blogging doesn't make you a writer

>> No.461990

>>461536

Sorry for a couple-of-hours-later-reply, but what I meant was not to start a whole quantity versus quality debate, in that sense:
>Bella is a swallow girl who falls in love with Edward.
The above sentence is better than the whole Twilight series.

However, what I meant was:
If you write 2 lines, about how your day was, you don't even try to become better. That way your piece of writing is useless.

If you write 15.000 words (alot, it's just meant as being well above nine thousand) a day with which you practise and think about something of the world, regardless of how or what it is, the time you spent on it makes you a better writer than if you just wrote two lines.

Even if you write 2 lines ever single day for a year, if you just write 15.000 words in one go once a year, you learn how to write a lot and keeping it on the topic, were as if you write the 2 lines, they might not even be related from day to day unless it's a diary, and hornestly, how many bloggers uses their blog as a diary and not just a media to express themselves?

>> No.461995

Nope. Any dumb ass can open a geocities and type up what happened to them.

>> No.461998

>>461990
Bella is too prudish to swallow

>> No.461996

Bloggers are writers. Why wouldn't they be?

I think they're stupid for giving away their content to bigger companies like blogspot.com to profit from. Even a lot of writers for cracked.com fall into this trap. They give away content for a minimal fee (like 50 dollars) when they would be better off just starting their own website.

>> No.462022

"writers" who blog simply don't know how to submit shit to publications, and if you don't know something as basic as that, you fail as a writer.

>> No.462028

>>461995

I'd argue that any dumb ass can be a writer.

An awful amateur writer with no following, maybe, but a writer nonetheless.

>> No.462039

If they write, regardless of in which format or where, and they consider themselves writers, then yes a blogger is a writer.

>> No.462080
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462080

I write fetish pornography. I've taken commissions from other people for custom stories, whereupon they give me money to write a story around a plot that they loosely define. The fetish I write about most often is one that I myself have, so I do plenty of non-commission work too. I will admit that there have been times that I've sacrificed what I believe to be good writing in favor of what the customer wants when it comes to my commissioned work, but I still try my best regardless of what I'm doing.

Do I have the right to call myself an author? A writer?

>> No.462085

>>461489
Of course.

If stephanie meyer is a writer, a stupid blogger can be either.

>> No.462087

>>462080
Is your primary income derived from writing?

>> No.462089

>>462080
yes, I'd say so, if you want to think of yourself as such.

(Can you make a living from it. by the way?)

>> No.462093

>>462080

Lots of great authors wrote mostly for money and tailored their books so that they would sell well.

eg: Charles Dickens, Anthony Trollope, etc. etc.

>> No.462099

>>462087

That's a shitty definition. Most writers in the 19th century - like virtually all of them including Hawthorne, Emerson, etc. - had to work a second job and didn't make much money from their writing (though they could sometimes make a decent living at lecture halls where they'd get paid to read their book/parts of their book to people, Poe in particular is a good example of this, made virtually no money from selling his poems but made a fair amount reading them).

>> No.462102

>>462087

No, unfortunately not. I use it to help pay for things that I want, but the bulk of my support comes from my parents, who are helping me through college.

>> No.462123

>>462089

The money that I make is enough that it pays for the resources that I've put into it -- I purchased the computer that I use as a server for the website, along with the domain name --, but I could not live comfortably from it alone.

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>>462093

>Great authors
>Charles Dickens

>> No.462139

>>462120
Fuck you, Charles Dickens was a great writer!

>> No.462144

>>462139

He sure was great at writing bland, boring shit.

>> No.462153

>>462144

Just because you don't like long books doesn't mean we all don't.

Also great reasoning - "hurr it's too long too many words man"

>> No.462155

>>462102
When writing pays your bills, then you're a writer. Keep up the porn work, it pays per word enough to live on.

>> No.462162

>>462153

Didn't mention length anywhere broseidon.

But if it's length you want to pick at me for, well, The Count of Monte Cristo is my favourite book of all time. And that bitch is long as hell.

Length doesn't bother me. Like I said: Bland, boring. That's what Dickens is to me, nigga.

>> No.462165

>>462139
not who you're arguing with, but it's obvious that Dickens was paid by the word, and it gets tedious when he spends two pages describing what a room looks like. A Tale of Two Cities could be edited to be half its current length, and nothing would be lost but page count.

>> No.462166

>>462162

>trolledhard.jpg

It's that easy kids.

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>>462166

I've been trolled! How did I ever allow myself to fall for one of these dirty tricks?

>> No.462194

>>462173

I read that in his voice, holy shit.

>> No.464340

>>462099
So you're saying they were bourgeois amateurs?

>> No.464394

>>461995
sorry sir but

http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/close/close-01.html