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Let's discuss two stories /lit/, because I believe that they are two halves of a unifying truth.

Borges - Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius
http://art.yale.edu/file_columns/0000/0066/borges.pdf

Borges - The Library of Babel
http://www.travesssmalley.com/pdf/Borges_Library_Of_Babel_1941.pdf

Perhaps if you're a certain breed of /fringe/x/er, you'll understand.

>> No.4886007
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Oh /lit/, could someone point to a thread with more potential for conversation?

Are you afraid of the light?

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12 hrs and no takers? How can you hope to achieve gnosis?

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>> No.4887667

It's funny, just yesterday I was trying to translate Uqbar into my own language just to get a feel for Borges's style. What a fucking god.

>> No.4887669

Why, are you implying that our world is produced somewhere in the cosmic library of Babel or that every possible world exists etc? Those are pointless speculations.

>> No.4887686

>>4885908
I thought that Library of Babel was one of Borges' lesser works

>> No.4887701

Borges is pretty cool. I just started (re)reading the collected fictions, and it feels just a little bit like he is a one trick pony. The trick is fucking amazing, but still. Stories like Tlön, etc., the one with the infinite library, the one about the fictional author, etc. they are basically a substitute for Derrida+Baudrilly etc. A lot more concise, a lot more tasteful and so on.

>> No.4888037

>>4887669
No, we inhabit the library. There is no difference.

>>4887686
Reread it.

>>4887701
He's a mythmaker, I suppose that's a pretty good "trick" for a "pony."

How could we classify Borges as a storyteller when he does not tell stories?

>> No.4888156

>>4887701
How is he a one trick pony, you clown? Have you only read two or three stories? How about all that stuff with knife fights? And his poetry?

>> No.4888600

Why does the house of asterion make me feel so much, /lit/?
A-am I asterion?

>> No.4888896

>>4888156

>stuff with knife fights

Laughable macho posturing, especially coming from a bourgeois invalid intellectual.

>poetry

Proper shit innit.

>> No.4888897

>>4888896
Kill yourself.

>> No.4888900

>>4888897

See man on the streets bruv.
I'll knife yer mum too.

>> No.4888905

>>4887701

>and it feels just a little bit like he is a one trick pony

wrong. read his literary criticism and non-fic

>> No.4888914

>>4887701

>they are basically a substitute for Derrida+Baudrilly etc

You do realize they both shamelessly ripped him off?
That little cakeboy Barthes owes him some royalties too.

>> No.4888921

>>4888914
>ripped him off?
It doesn't work that way, idiot. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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>>4888914

>You do realize they both shamelessly ripped him off?

rekt

>> No.4888929

>>4888921

>It doesn't work that way, idiot.

Yeah, he had no influence on them at all. Cool.

Fuck off.

>> No.4888936

>>4888929
Influence != ripping him off
Kill yourself, faggot.

>> No.4888947

>>4888921

The Map is the Territory and the Death of the Author add nothing to Del rigor en la ciencia and Pierre Menard.

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/lit/izens, if anything, Borges is ripping off the Western Occult tradition and Jewish Mysticism.

>> No.4889457

Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius is my favorite Borges story, it pulls you into a lot of his thoughts. Obsession, fetishism, desire to create, denial of originals. It stays with you for years.


Everything he's written is great. It makes it so easy to understand >>4887701
>Derrida+Baudrilly etc

>>4889390
Working off them a bit.

>> No.4889472

>>4889457
What I've always liked about Tlon is it's Lovecraftian tone and subject matter, thought of course Borges gives it a much better treatment (instead of "And it was a really weird shape! It was crazy!")

>> No.4890197

bump

>> No.4890233

>>4885908
So many typos in the pdf though

>mirrors haRe something monstrous about them
>they increase the number oR men

wtf