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What would your utopia look like?

>> No.4961125

People in it would be wise, curious, happy, and they would do what they pleased.

>> No.4961143

Modern day USA

>> No.4961144

A world where the population has been reduced to 1 billion, and people with bad genes are sterilized, their children as well.

Like if a person commits a foul anti-social act, then he or she is immediately sterilized, and their offspring as well.

>> No.4961149

>>4961122
One where humans don't exist.

>> No.4961153

>>4961144
Go to bed Plato.

>> No.4961158

>>4961144
>he thinks antisocial behavior is genetic

Is there anyone who who can defend sterilization without also being retarded? It seems like an interesting concept, but every proponent of it seems to have the intellectual maturity of a 5th grader.

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>>4961149

>> No.4961162
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No girls
No religion
No non-metal music
No bullying
No douchebags

>> No.4961171

>>4961158

I don´t mean anti social as in not interacting a lot with other people, but rather committing foul acts against others, like robbing people, raping people, and just fucking shit up for others in general.

Are you saying that criminal behavior is not related to genetics?

Statistics say otherwise, and i´m not gonna go on google and search for them because its just common fucking sense.

I gotta take back the part about sterilizing the offspring though, that doesn´t seem very fair - I read recently that Woody Harrelsons father was a cold blooded killer.

>> No.4961172

>>4961125
Move to Somalia faggot
>>4961144
Children can't have babies anyway

>> No.4961191

Immortality

>> No.4961194

>>4961191
Here you go :)
http://www.christianity.com/

>> No.4961205

no people

>> No.4961210

>>4961122
>What would your utopia look like?
It's called the veil of ignorance, m8.

>> No.4961218

>>4961172
Are people in Somalia wise, happy and curious ? If yes, I'll go there. But I heard that they are getting better, busy rebuilding their country, and actually hopeful for the future. So perhaps your advice is better than you think. I couls have a more interesting time there than on 4chan.

>> No.4961244

>>4961171
>Are you saying that criminal behavior is not related to genetics?
It isn't
>b-but muh charts
teaching people to control themselves and teaching them to be more conscious about their decisions is not that hard, criminal behavior has mostly to do with the way somebody has been raised

>> No.4961246

Our personalities, desires, and interests are products of our environment; therefore, our ideal utopias are determined. If we can create an environment that will determine what we want, and give it to us; it would be ideal for everyone.

>> No.4961248

>>4961122
Like the Kesh in the Valley of the Na.
Just exactly like that.

>> No.4961266

no liberals

>> No.4961270

>>4961125
There ya go.

Roaming bands of philosophers. Rustic intellectuals

>>4961172
It sounds like you're the one aching for the freedom of the freemarkets of Somalia.

>>4961162
So, nobody at all.

>> No.4961275

>>4961218

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion

>> No.4961277

>>4961162
>everyone will be autistic

>> No.4961285
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4961285

>Population:

ONLY CAUCASOIDS; NONCAUCASOIDS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BECOME CITIZENS.

CAUCASOID, AND NONCAUCASOID NONCITIZENS CAN BE GRANTED TEMPORARY RESIDENCE IF APPROVED.

STATECONTROLLED REPRODUCTION.

>Economy:

HYPERCAPITALIST "FREE MARKET".

MINIMAL PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAXATION.

PROGRESSIVE ANTITRUST POLICIES.

>Education:

ALL LEVELS OF EDUCATION ARE PRIVATE.

>Media:

ALL COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA ARE PRIVATE.

>Rulership

AN ARISTOCRACY HEADED BY A KING/CEO.

>> No.4961286

>>4961244
How do you know that?

>> No.4961298
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>> No.4961300
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>> No.4961307
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>> No.4961313

>>4961285
>>4961298
>>4961300
you're ruining /lit/

>> No.4961331

>>4961246
So Brave New World?

>> No.4961332

>>4961286
Because i've been through it, i was once extremely violent towards everyone, once i went to therapy and psychology, i noticed i no longer needed to be this way, controlling myself seemed more easier than i thought it would be, and after a while my family became more happier, and the only thing that made me angry is the fact that being violent is the only thing i knew what to do, it was what i saw all the people around me do, i did not know any better.

>> No.4961333

>>4961285
Your king/CEO will censor the "private media" on the sly, but no one will know any different because the education is tightly controlled to turn out same-minded people (There will be those branded "deviants" who will no doubt be cast off into darkie land.

The taxation structure work out much as it's working now. The poorer nations/darkies will be paying for the opulence of your Caucasoid nation.

It's brutal and unstable. Working for a few. Encouraging nothing close to intelligence.

>> No.4961334

>>4961285
>>4961298
>>4961300
>>4961307
I wish I was 13 again. I used to do shit like this with my friends; then we would draw flags and shoot each other with nerf guns.

>> No.4961357

>>4961122
Full communism, obviously.

>> No.4961359

>>4961285
tell me more about the flag and its symols and colors pls

>> No.4961362

I reckon a lot of people would need to die for it to work, cities and towns would have to shrink or disappear, and lots of religions (particularly Islam) would need to be eradicated completely.

>> No.4961363

>>4961333
>Your king/CEO will censor the "private media" on the sly...

NO.

>There will be those branded "deviants" who will no doubt be cast off into darkie land.

NO.

>The poorer nations/darkies will be paying for the opulence of your Caucasoid nation.

NO; WHY WOULD OTHER COUNTRIES PAY US TAXES?

>Working for a few. Encouraging nothing close to intelligence.

NO; IT IS AN ARISTOCRATIC STATE, NOT A SERF STATE.

YOUR POST IS COMPRISED OF BASELESS ASSUMPTIONS, AND FLAWED CONCLUSIONS.

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>>4961359

"YELLOW": KiKi –THE PHYSICAL.

"CYAN": ADA –THE MENTAL.

"MAGENTA": WANESSA –THE SPIRITUAL.

"GOLDEN" ICON: SOFIA –WISDOM; ULTIMATE GNOSIS; SYNTHESIS OF THE PHYSICAL, THE MENTAL, AND THE SPIRITUAL.

>> No.4961370

>>4961369
what would the cuisine of your nation be like?

>> No.4961373

Star Trek, seems stupid as fuck but i want our race to be united and in search for knowlodge, but with more weight on free will than morality, probably it looked that way in the starship because it was an army, society may be better

>> No.4961375

>>4961122
There's no difference between a utopia and a dystopia

>> No.4961376

>>4961122
a place where there isnt happiness and people wouldnt want it since they couldnt even imagine it. Everyone has 140+ iq so while eveyone follows a nihilistic yolo philosophy they dont do retarded things

>> No.4961378

>>4961376
>people with a high IQ don't do retarded things

>> No.4961381

>>4961373
ships always require firm hierarchy, even semi-democratic semi-anarchistic pirates had a firm hierarchy for quick decision making at sea.

>> No.4961386

>>4961370

THAT IS BEYOND STATECONTROL, BUT VEGANISM, AND A CEREALBASED DIET WOULD BE PROMOTED.

>> No.4961396

>>4961378
Smart people are less likely to do retarded things and more likely to learn from their mistakes. Stupid people often don't remember their mistakes and keep repeating them. Learning requires intelligence.

>> No.4961402

>>4961363
Aristocracies beget serfdom

>> No.4961408

>>4961386
Kill yourself, please.

>> No.4961409

1. Do laudanum.
2. It's that.

>> No.4961427

>>4961363
Your "NO" hardly explains a thing, so I shall have to assume.

Your CEO-king is a figurehead and the censoring is done by the "aristocracy".
These "progressive income taxations" imply a class system, but you pretend everyone is a member of the Caucasoid-aristocracy. The wealthier will still lord it over the rest no matter the labels.

Now about that darkie world that somehow isn't at war with North America, for just or unjust reasons, there's a warrior/guardian class manning the seaways and electrified fences, if not waging battle?

>>4961396
So you mean "retarded" in a high school terminology sense?

>> No.4961440

>>4961122
all the girls would be taylor swift with me as the only kid
nobody ages
some swifts have different fetishes than others though

>> No.4961453

Probably something like the one from The Elementary Particles.

>> No.4961456

>>4961386
>veganism
never visit here again

>> No.4961459

One where my waifu is real and I'm genuinely happy.

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>>4961285
Well, it's good that you're trapped to forever roam the halls of 4chan. I'm sure we'll have many more interactions in the years to come.

>> No.4961507

>>4961122
It would defy the laws of physics and logic on a constant basis to meet my every desire.

>> No.4961537

>>4961143
>I non-sarcastically agree
I am living my utopia and enjoying it, too. things could always be better but they could always be worse. i am perfectly content.

>>4961158
it does sound like a viable option. however, some of the greatest people started from the bottom, so sterilizing the 'worthless' diminishes that from ever occurring, possibly stunting civilization.

>>4961149
ok

>>4961191
>>4961194
lol

>>4961396
if only this were true.

>>4961386
this kid right here, i am enjoying this

>> No.4961556

Everyone would be legally required to make a pilgrimage to my house for anal sex. Then Friday would be sex day and everyone would go in the streets and have massive orgies. The only wars fought would be fought for my own personal amusement and everyone would have to be naked and fight with dildos.

>> No.4961559

>>4961556
I would sponsor a Hunger Games event starring young men and women of legal age in which the objective would be to be the last to have an orgasm.

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>> No.4961583

No man can possible think of a true utopia

>> No.4961584

>>4961122
War, pain, and strife as far as the eye can see.

Wait shit, that's right now isn't it?

>> No.4961637

>>4961122
It doesn't exist. Literally. As in non-existence.

>> No.4961643

>>4961584
le funny post

>> No.4961646

>>4961643
le ironic, mocking post

>> No.4961661

People would just chill and be nice to each other.

>> No.4961665

>>4961661
gheeeyyyy

>> No.4961673

>>4961661
edgy

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>>4961665
you guys are not invited

>> No.4961696

>>4961122
A world where social accounting wasn't performed with debt.

>> No.4963207

>4961171
Yagami kun?

>> No.4963394

>>4961696
antisemite

>> No.4963472
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>>4961122
It would look like a place where I'm the supreme ruler. Who cares, utopias are lame and gay.

Let's turn this into a Brueghel thread instead.

>Pieter Brueghel the Elder>Pieter Brueghel the Younger>Jan Brueghel the Elder>Jan Brueghel the Younger

Also:
>Northern Renaissance>Baroque>Late Renaissance>Early Renaissance

>> No.4963478

>>4961537
>things could always be better
Then it's not an utopia, nigger. Also, if it does actually exist it's by definition not an utopia.

>> No.4963481

>>4963472
hieronymus bosch>errthang

>> No.4963500

>>4961298
>Rolemodel Leaders: Ayn Rand... Nikola Tesla
That makes no sense at all. Rand was an obsessive capitalist, while Tesla died penniless because he gave no fucks about properly patenting and making money off of his inventions.

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>>4963481
>tfw can't choose between Pieter the Elder and Bosch

>> No.4963508

>>4963500
>Captain autism
>not making sense
what the fuck did you expect

>> No.4963511

>>4963508
>>Captain autism
At very least an above average attention to detail.

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>>4963503
"The Triumph of Death" says go with Bruegel or be killed by the skeleton army.

>> No.4963522

>>4963503
A shared first place is acceptable for those two I guess.

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>>4963518
2spooky

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>> No.4963570

One where everyone is genuinely friendly with each other.

>> No.4963574

I don't know about how it would look to begin with but give it a decade or so and - Rivers of spunk.

>> No.4963657

>>4961122
>One world governement comprising 200 states. (and many thousands of substates)
>Cold fusion, so no need for any other sources of power
>Arcologies, giant cylindrical cities several kilometres in diamter and height containing many millions of people in large, comfortable housing.
>Outside arcologies, nature lies.
>There is a world parliament, with a king/president/lord who is the world's admin. Neither the parliament nor the king can adjust the world constitution without the consent of the word's population. Each state is presided over by the king/lord/president but is slightly autonomous in that they can make their own laws up to a point.
>Schooling is free and secular up to university, but parents are allowed/encouraged to teach their children the words of their God.
>The government is 'liberal' in the way that any number of consenting adults can do what they like to each other in a private room, up to the pont of murder-suicide/inflicting unnecessary harm, and that there is a welfare state; but conservative in that death penalties exist, and the freedom of expression and opinion is prized- unless of course it contravenes incitement laws- and people are welcome to keep and carry guns.
>Those with mental illnesses are forbidden from owning weapons, lest they be harmful to themselves or others. They are given mandatory weekly treatmentuntil the bad thoughts go away. The way the state knows about this is if they behave in a manner that indicates such an illness.

>> No.4963668

>>4963657

>Those with mental or physical disabilities are cared for by the state, and trained for employment where their disability would not hinder them; ie building/gardening/security for those lacking in mental capacity.
>Extremism and terrorism are not acceptable, those guilt of such will be executed in a neat and humane manner.
>Corporations are strongly controlled, laws are in place to force corporations to take good care of their workers and the arcologies in which they operate
>Any member of government who is found to be corrupt is ousted
>Aboriginals/natives are welcome to live outside the arcologies.
>All national relics are curated with the utmost love and care. The Hiaga Sophia, the White House, the Nuremburg Gate, the British Musem, etc.
>Colonies on the Moon, Mars and Saturn's moons, deep space travel,
>People treat other people how they would be treated
>People are generally "kind", and take into account Kant's principles of behaviour, as well as a Utilitarianist aspect., where instead of the maximum happiness created, for the most people, the focus is on the least happiness for the most people.

>> No.4963694

>>4961122
No Muslims and no Jews. Everything else would sort itself out.

>> No.4963706

>>4963694
How? What makes you so sure that simply eliminating approximately billion and a half people will do anything? How are you so sure that their beliefs are so deeply associated with the state the world is currently in?

>> No.4963714

>>4963657
>>4963668
Nice dystopia, faggot.

>> No.4963718

>>4963714
Please do point out the dystopian attributes,

>> No.4963727

>>4963718
All that shit is related to physical comfort and cocoon living. There is 0 self-actualization, pretty much 0 free will. Your life would just be moving from one warm, comfy cocoon to the next.

boring and meaningless

>> No.4963729

>>4963668
>Hiaga Sophai

>> No.4963739

>>4963727
And that's what colonisation is for. Anyone with sufficient skills (ie: can you read a manual, can you work in a team, are you good at programming/pilotry/construction/demolition/killing/environmental sciences etc) can join a colonisation drive, spend five years on an alien planet making it sufficiently comfy, then either going home or going to another colony.

>> No.4963757

>>4963739
Sounds decent. 7/10

>> No.4963767

>>4963757
All I seek is a world of comfy, where one can step outside your house and be in the middle of a forest, but have all the niceties of a metropolis just inside your door.

>> No.4963820

>>4963767
lol people like you make me be thankful of the non-existence of a human-like omnipotent God.

>> No.4963825

>>4963820
that's really the post that sets you off down that road? nigga just wants luxury and trees.

>> No.4963835

>>4963820
>Well, such a concept is unknowable, and so I'm not going to argue with you.
>>4963825
Luxury and trees. That ain't a bad slogan. Thanks, anon!

>> No.4963866

Like this. State education would teach all children to speak Ancient Greek, Latin and multiple modern languages. Literature classes would start with the Greeks, followed by the Romans, the Bible and all major works of English literature. Philosophy classes would be extremely extensive, covering every work on the /lit/ wiki. Cheating in a relationship would be punishable by public humiliation and forced servitude in public brothels.

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>>4963866
Forgot my picture.

>> No.4963927

>>4963657
>>4963668
Your arbeit macht frei program is scary as fuck but otherwise pretty good. You should just allow proper NEETdom.

>> No.4963936

Whatever you want you can have

>> No.4963977

A collection of free cities like the Greeks had where power and wealth determine your position and there is money to be made in adventuring. The conditions are mostly first world because of advanced technology but the lower class still exists. Space travel should be common and mankind numbers in the trillions. Basically the Ranceverse.

>> No.4963991

>>4963936
but durr raping babies

>> No.4964000

>>4963866
You sounded patrician as fuck until
>Cheating in a relationship would be punishable by public humiliation and forced servitude in public brothels.
Damn, I can smell the EXTREME butthurt from here.

>> No.4964001

>>4963991
Would be a utopia for baby-rapers.

>> No.4964006

>>4963991
Do you really want to rape babies? Really?

>> No.4964011

>>4964000
Butthurt about what?

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>>4963668
>>4963657
I like some of what you say but not all of it.
Good man.

>> No.4964018

>>4964011
About you being cheated on.

>> No.4964031

>>4961122
Life's already my utopia.

>> No.4964037

>>4964031
Stop using words you don't know the meaning of.

>> No.4964061

>>4964018
I've never been cheated on. I've never had a girlfriend, or had sex, or kissed a girl on the lips.

>> No.4964063

>>4964014
why you photoshop the bracelet

>> No.4964065

>>4963936
So, essentially, anarchy.

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>You will never be completely in charge of a nation

>> No.4964084

>>4964065
I disagree there. Anarchy is mostly working in democratic collectives. Or at least leftist Anarchy is and so it's not just whatever you want.

>> No.4964099

>>4964084
I don't think you know what anarchy means.

>> No.4964117

A virtual reality composed entirely of the permanent state of orgasm.
>The only definition of utopia

>> No.4964120 [DELETED] 

>>4964065
It's not concerned with of others can have what they want.

>> No.4964122

>>4964065
It's not concerned with if others can have what they want.

>> No.4964135

>>4964037
What word was used incorrectly there?

>> No.4964141

>>4964099
Please, Anon, educate me.

>> No.4964150

>>4964135
Utopia.

>> No.4964162

>>4963936
>Whatever you want you can have
>want

This is the cancer of our time and what is forestalling the advent of our promised Utopia.

It should be:

>Whatever you NEED you shall have

It's an important distinction because,

>>4963835
>Luxury and trees.

Anyone who hasn't experienced proper luxury for a sufficient amount of time will never appreciate how truly boring and unfilfilling it is. Humans need purpose. Beauty and luxury can't fill that need.

>> No.4964184

Universal income, but then on the other way more strict enforce of laws, if you're able to afford most of your needs there's no excuse for breaking the laws.

free education/healthcare.
really high taxes for more than one property

>> No.4964259

>>4964162
so do i need weed and my dick sucked?

>> No.4964313

>>4961122
1984

>> No.4964317

It would be void of any sentient beings.

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>>4961298
how are you planning on having a unified north american state with no non-Caucasians? Just empty out half the US, half Canada, and 99% of Mexico? What happens when your people do this and then the crime rate does not go down as promised, you just have a new impoverished underclass of whites committing crimes and living in ghettos?

>anarcho-fascism

uh, what

Dude I don't think you realize how badly you're embarrassing yourself right now.

>> No.4964356

>>4963706
Who would be the half person to be eliminated?

>> No.4964400

>>4961357
+1, upboated, this, etc.

>> No.4964417

>>4964065
No, essentially impossible.

>>4964162
Need for what? To live? Most of us already have that.

>> No.4964425

>>4964356
This isn't even clever.

>> No.4964442

>>4964425
Yeah it did sound smarter when I pressed the post-button.

>> No.4964444

>>4961122
An event where the impossible is made possible.

>> No.4964455

>>4961369
This is some Plato shit

>> No.4964470

>>4961285
>>4961298
>>4961300
>>4961307
>>4961363
>>4961369
attention whore
should be ignored, in my opinion...

>> No.4964473

>>4964335
Rei is a Mexican Jap, pretty sure he applies caucasian quite broadly.

>> No.4964475

>>4964470
>provides most elaborate and thought out answer to OP
>should be ignored

anti-intellectual.

>> No.4964478

>>4961143
>>4961537
>I am perfectly content with a police state run on fear
>I am fine with being spied on 24/7
>I am fine with having police beat the shit out of and kill whoever they please
>I am fine with being a slave
>Literally nothing could be better than this
You are the problem.

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>>4961162
Elliot please go.

>> No.4964557

>>4964475
>>provides most elaborate and thought out answer to OP
it's neither elaborate nor thought out, it's plain and simple neoliberalism/neoconservatism, directly from /pol/

>calling a anti-neoliberals, anti-neocons "anti-intellectual".

>> No.4964582

>>4961162
>>4964488
No obnoxious brutes.

>> No.4964596

>>4964557
>it's plain and simple neoliberalism/neoconservatism

You are retarded

>> No.4964627

>>4964596
>You are retarded
no.
he's simply the product of this retarded society, what's so "elaborate" about his way of thinking? to think like him, you just have to buy what your local politician says

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>>4961122
A utopia for me or a utopia for society as a whole?

>> No.4964660

>>4963394
That's anti-semetic

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>>4964627

I don't think politics is your forté, m80

>> No.4964714

>>4964652
In a utopia, this will not even be a distinction

>> No.4964722

>>4964669
says who?
you haven't said a single thing. either you are trolling or simply a retard with a feel of superiority

>> No.4964736

>>4964061
Well, that could explain your extreme attitude against sluts by being butthurt over women in general too.

>> No.4964755
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>>4964714
An individuals idea of a perfect world might not be suitable for society as a whole.

>> No.4964804

>>4964652
that street looks pretty utopic to me

>> No.4964846

>>4964755
The individual and the collective will be one and the same. Utopia will only be possible when consciousness is unified. There will not be a distinction literally.

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>> No.4965275

>>4965227
looks like babbylon with the garden stuff

>> No.4965286

>>4963478
a utopia is what one makes of it. a true utopia cannot exist. i am happy with what i do and who i am; this is my utopia.

>>4964478
>muh police state
implying you can even fathom an actual police state
>being spied on 24/7
how about you lessen your dependence on electronic devices
>police brutality
shit happens, though you cannot disagree that the majority of these 'victims' were already criminals deserving of worse
>claiming slavery
get a career, stop being dependent on your slave-wage, stop living paycheck to paycheck, see if you still think you are a slave.
>nothing could be better
the grass is always greener

you are a faggot

>> No.4965308

>>4965286
You could lose everything in an instant. An unsecured utopia is not utopia.

>> No.4965317

>>4965308
that is simply not true.

>only an idiot doesn't keep a coat for a windy day.

>> No.4965326

>>4965286
>Majority of those victims deserved it
You ignorant fucking moron

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-defend-raid-tactics-50-drug-sale-horribly-maimed-baby/

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-stands-hood-car-fires-15-rounds-window-kills-unarmed-people/

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/dog-killed/

And hundreds other "Isolated incidents"
This is why America is a police state. It has a fucking horrible force of uniformed thugs fucking you left right and center and people still think that's not only okay but also commendable.

>> No.4965328

>>4965317
It is true. Your coat could have a hole in it. There is always progress to be made. There is always more security to be had. And none of the security you do have is ever truly secure.

>> No.4965340

A civilization where all possible technology has been discovered, where the average person would be like god compared to us. Their cities would be like paradise.

They would spend most of their time going back through time, bringing those from the past into the utopia without effecting the events that lead up to the utopia. Everyone gets a free waifu/husbandfu upon entering.

>> No.4965345

>>4965286
>get a career, stop being dependent on your slave-wage, stop living paycheck to paycheck, see if you still think you are a slave.
>this sure is a long leash!

>> No.4965357

>>4965326
>we are all burdened with the sins of our fathers
it sucks that shit like that happens but it could have been prevented if the parents had not put their house on police radar.

and, that is not the definition of a police state
>though we are getting closer and closer

>>4965328
i'll take a coat with a hole, being clad, over being naked.

>>4965345
>wage-slave detected

>> No.4965369

>>4965286
>BEING FUCKING SPIED ON ON A COUNTRY >WIDE SCALE
>ALL RIGHTS OF PRIVACY ARE FORFEIT
"Uh, it's your fault for doing something that could be spied on"
Are you literally retarded
Also
>Average bumblefuck American
>No job no money
>Can't get a job because they need an overpriced piece of paper from a college
>Can't get into college because they have no money
>Can't get money because they have no job
>Oh and you have kids and food and shelter and shit to deal with
>Work as fucking hard as possible killing yourself to make ends meet
This ensures that the wealthy always stay wealthy and the poor always stay poor less status quo ever be changed. Your fucking top tier advice
>Lol just get a career
Fuck you.

>> No.4965370

>>4965357
>wage-slave detected
Far from it.

>> No.4965386

17th century but with modern healthcare

>> No.4965400

>>4965357
Of course you'll take it. You and everyone else. But we're not trying to talk about the good or the better but the perfect. That's not perfect.

>> No.4965404

>>4961122
everybody is dead
it's the only way to create a utopia

but what does my ideal world look like?
global megacorporations controlling public services for profit while the population makes themselves into iron titans with cheap and plentiful cybernetic prosthetics and implants to create a race of super-workers

>> No.4965435

>>4965369
i am not saying it is right that they are spying. however, there is no alternative in the digital age. records exist, deletion is not permanent, anyone (L337 H4x0rs) can view this info.

also, none of this cyberspace shit is necessary, people use the web for its ease. how about we use it less and less, diminishing their profits, to force them into figure out a true user-friendly platform.until then, you know you're being watched, use at your own risk. again, it isn't right but that's how it is

>>4965400
perfection cannot exist objectively. the question was one's own ideal of a utopia to which i answered. in my utopia i am, at the very least, not with naught but with something.

>>4965370
have you anything worthwhile to contribute, anything with substance?

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>>4964846
Sounds kind of like communism

>> No.4965845

>>4961122
.There is no more state

.People are like 1 million in total

.People are highly moral

.There is no use for language because people can read each other's minds, unifying thus the human race

That's about it, nothing can go wrong

>> No.4966808

>>4965435
>have you anything worthwhile to contribute, anything with substance?
I already did by mocking your notion that climbing the ladder means overcoming the system.

>> No.4966815

>>4965845
What will they do for fun? What type of meals will they enjoy?

>> No.4966954

>Collection of small rural towns and cities
>Constant warfare between them for fun and pleasure, just sticks and stones stuff no bombs
>Arranged marriages and polygamy for that genetic bonus and to keep inferior people from breeding
>Lots of sex in general though, think Eyes Wide Shut
>Homosexuality is so normal that gays dont exist
>Same with pedophillia
>Abundent paganism, mythology, and rituals
>People inherent their parents farms
>Lots of slaves and shit like that
>Family line more important than individual, man inherents the life of his ancestors and passes them to his children
>Same with the entire cities in general, sort of like pre-war Japan
>That said heavy emphesis on individualism and self struggle
>Greek culture of competativeness and possesion
>Tradgedy is seen as beautiful
>Drugs are easy to get and legal
>Children are taught in small classrooms of 10 or 15 about math and religion and local history
>Lots of physical education and philosophy as well, strong emphesis on spirituality and life affirming nihilism
>People just live comfortable lives on farms making their small community a better while they wait to die a tragic beautiful death
>Lots of epic poetry celebrating local heros

I honestly can't think of a reason why I wouldn't want to live like this. Every other utopia would be sort of shitty in my opinion; why would anyone want to live a "free and moral life" as part of some huge machine then dying of old age or some shit like that is beyond me.

>> No.4967040

>>4966954
>tfw you will never be part of a cult like in eyes wide shut
Forget about the rest of it, that's my idea of utopia.