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So how does it feel knowing your favorite philosopher was a virgin, /lit/?

>> No.5103646

>virgin
>died of syphillis

gd1 op

>> No.5103654

>>5103642
encouraging

>> No.5103669

>>5103642
>/lit/'s favorite philosopher
no, this is /b/'s and /r/atheism's favorite philosopher

>> No.5103714

But my favorite philosopher gave birth to beautiful ideas.

>> No.5103723

>>5103642
There's no conclusive evidence to say either way definitively

>> No.5103742

He made the right decision. Still, it must have taken some willpower to give her up.

>> No.5103746

>>5103723
>>5103723
There's conclusive evidence that he was a virgin you fucking retard.

>> No.5103748

but thats not max

>> No.5103792

A virginthought!

>> No.5103823

>>5103714

Fag.

>> No.5103827

>>5103746
no there isn't you bitter faggot with an obvious agenda

>> No.5103833

>>5103642
>He got syphilis from a toilet seat.

>> No.5103875

>>5103746
>conclusive evidence nietzsche was a virgin

oh but i thought for a while everyone said he was gay, now that being gay doesn't have much stigma i guess people are going to say he was a virgin?

>> No.5103885

>>5103742
I guess you could say it must have taken some willpower to give her up;

>> No.5103888

>>5103885
wait but that IS what he said....

>> No.5103931

>being a virgin is now considered a bad thing

When did this happen?

Also, just because he didn't publish papers about the wild sex parties he's had doesn't mean he hasn't had sex. A hundred and something years from it'll be pretty hard to prove whether or not I've had sex if I don't have kids.

>> No.5104087

>In 1876, he proposed to Mathilde Trampedach. She turned him down, partly because she had only known him a few days, but mostly because he had sent his proposal in the form of a letter that was delivered by her boyfriend (and later husband) conductor Hugo von Senger. Six years later Nietzsche repeated the experiment with German-Russian author Lou Salome, once again sending his proposal through her then-lover, philosopher Paul Ree.
A weirdo is what he was.
>>5103931
People will give less a shit about you than they already do now, anon.

>> No.5104292

Tfw favorite dead guy no tfw

>> No.5104297

>>5103642
If he was a virgin, how did he get syphilis?

>> No.5104319

>>5103746
Is there? Can you show it to me?

>> No.5104448

>>5104087
A troll he was. I would give everything I have to read Nietzsche's shenanigans in greentext.

>> No.5104453

>>5103642
I doubt I'd care if Nietzsche was my favorite philosopher.

For the actual hipsters of /lit/ (the only people who actually like him), it probably makes them like him better. Afterall, he wasn't popular with the ladies.

>> No.5104529

In Mencken's book about Nietzsche he speculates that he was more of a flirtatious playboy...but of course that's just speculation on Mencken's part.

I find it hard to believe Nietzsche wouldn't have been able to pull a babe or two. And besides, if he didn't, there's still speculation that he had syphilis, which may have been contracted during a visit to a brothel while he was serving in the military. So it seems highly unlikely that he literally never had sex.

>> No.5104536

>>5104448
fuck bitches acquire power is what he was thinking

>> No.5104546
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5104546

>>5104536
[Wille zur Macht intensifies]

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>>5104536

>climbing hill
>thinking about power
>wrote about it
>mfw

>> No.5104580

>>5103833
only women get it from toilet seats

>> No.5104581

Ayn Rand wasn't a virgin though

>> No.5104587

>>5104581

atlas plugged

>> No.5104592

>>5104581
She also wasn't a philosopher.

>> No.5104626

>>5103642
Good, since I am now.

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5104631

kierkegaard died a virgin

>> No.5104636

>>5104631
I thought he married. Picking which church based on who would do him the honor, no?

>> No.5104643

>tfw you realize philosophers are only window-gazers and don't actually ever achieve anything and you make sure to waste time reading the Greeks
>tfw you're set for life with just Nietzsche, Stirner, maybe the Pre-Socratics or Schopy for shits and giggles

>> No.5104650

>>5104643
>you make NOT sure to waste time
fuck me

>> No.5104654

>>5104581
Of course not. Stalin had his way with her.

>> No.5104655

>>5104631
"Girls do not appeal to me. Their beauty passes away like a dream and like yesterday when it is past. Their faithfulness- yes, their faithfulness! Either they are faithless-this does not concern me any more-or they are faithful. IfI found such a one, she would appeal to me from the standpoint ofher being a rarity; but from the standpoint of a long period of time she would not appeal to me, for either she would continually remain faithful, and then I would become a sacrifice to my eagerness for experience, since I would have to bear with her, or the time would come when she would lapse, and then I would have the same old story." - Either/Or

>> No.5104656

>>5104650

wasted with that cunt

>> No.5104657

>>5104631

true.

why are you using feminister's whoring pix?

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5104675

>>5104655
Well dang.
>>5104657
>feminister's pix?
There are no Feminister pix
>>5104631
Why is it so small?

>> No.5104676

>>5104636
He turned down the marriage because he set out to find God. His fiance begged him not to.

>> No.5104683

>>5104675

sour

>> No.5104700

>>5104676
THAT'S the story I heard!
Wow. What a... Ah nm.

>>5104683
Pardon?

>> No.5104759

>>5103823
Il/lit/erate

>> No.5104770

>>5104675
omg what a qt

>> No.5104778

Where do I start reading le epic God is dead moustache?

>> No.5104781

>>5104778

The gay science

>> No.5104793

>>5104778
Birth of Tradegy.

>> No.5104853

>>5103642

Probably not because Nietzsche was very intelligent and it seems like he could easily have gotten laid if he wanted. If he was a virgin, it was definitely by choice.

Also how many times has this thread been here?

>> No.5104859

>>5104778
Beyond Good and Evil.

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5104863

>>5103642


>syphilis
>virgin

Nietzsche fucked hookers, if i am not mistaken. That's how he contracted syphillis

>> No.5104866

>>5104863

this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3313279/Madness-of-Nietzsche-was-cancer-not-syphilis.html

>Friedrich Nietzsche, the philosopher thought to have died of syphilis caught from prostitutes, was in fact the victim of a posthumous smear campaign by anti-Nazis, according to new research.

>syphilis caught from prostitutes

>> No.5104869

>>5104866

>smear campaign
>syphilis

wow that was the best disease to have tho

>> No.5104873

>>5104853
>Nietzsche was very intelligent and it seems like he could easily have gotten laid if he wanted.
Yes, of course. That's why /lit/ is full of virgins too.

>> No.5104875 [DELETED] 

>>5104863

Elliot Rodger was a cute kid. How did the girls not like him? They must have been lesbians.

>> No.5104876

>>5104778
Beyond Good and Evil

>>5104793
I thought for a second you typed "Tra-edgy" and I was laughing

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>>5104853

>implying intelligence equals social skills and an ability to get girls

You must be a fucking normie to be this oblivious

>> No.5104888

>>5104778
This iter:
Birth of Tragedy, Beyond Good and Evil, Genealogy of Morals (my fav), Human Too Human, Thus spoke Zara-kun.

>> No.5104891

>>5104888

I agree. Genealogy is the shit.

>> No.5104929

how is nietzsche intelligent? he was a talentless hack who appealed to 13 year old pseudos who proceeded to become the nazi party or the francophone new left.

>> No.5104936

>>5103642
Karl Marx had children?

>> No.5104945

lol no. Richard Dawkins is married and has children.

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5104954

>>5104945

>> No.5105223

>>5104631
nigga, he used to seduce women for fun before he got all uber-religious

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5105234

>>5104866
>spoke against the nazis
>smeared by anti-nazis
poor Nietzsche

>> No.5105310

>>5104778
the god delusion

>> No.5105357

I dislike Nietzsche, but all the best philosophers are virgins.

>sex
>beneficial to the intellect

top kek
Aquinas says that sex/sensuality is the greatest obstacle to intellectual powers because they fill the mind/imagination with all sorts of murk that obstruct.

>> No.5105359

>>5105223
don't think so
the seducer's diary was just a literary project
>>5104655
these are not Kierkegaard's words but the words of one of his characters

>> No.5105371

>>5105357
>because they fill the mind/imagination with all sorts of murk that obstruct.
Just like religion.

>> No.5105383

>>5104087
lol the faggot was trying to fulfill his resentment-based fantasy of being an alphamale by taking someone else's woman a la chad cockthunder and failed miserably, twice

>> No.5105386

>>5103642
Only virgins think that being a virgin is a big deal.

Ps. I'm married.

>> No.5105396

>>5105371

where life is a car, the appetite is the dirt on the windscreen, and religion is the fuel.

P H I L O S O P H A

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>> No.5105409

>>5105396
Switch religion with appetite and this becomes true

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5105416

>>5105409

why would this be true?

are you driven in the long term with the thought of food and excrement?

if so, i shouldn't like to see your 'projects'.

>> No.5105424

>>5105416
Only through wiping the dirt off the windshield do we see the world clearly and our appetites motivate us to act.

>> No.5105426

>>5105424

'needs must when the devil drives'

>> No.5105434

>>5105426
>Needs must when the devil drives
> When you are desperate, you must do things you ordinarily would not do

Not sure what you're getting at m8.

>> No.5105440

>>5105434

I would rather not spend my life performing bodily functions and adhering to baser needs. But there is more to life than that, thankfully.

>> No.5105442

>>5104587
best post ever

>> No.5105449

>>5105440
All needs reduce to 'base needs', that's why they call them base needs.

>> No.5105463

>>5105449

Indeed, if that is so I don't understand why you feel the need to continue down this light exploration of 'base needs' (ie. all needs [sic] ). Does your brain need this?

>> No.5105482

>>5105463
This conversation is a rehearsal for when I will have to assert the primacy of myself and my ideas over another male in order to gain status and thereby increase my chances of reproduction.

>> No.5105513

>>5105482

Ah but you feel a need assert your primacy? Or do you simply feel an imperative to do so?

Hack scientism

>> No.5105519

>what does not kill me makes me stronger
So he's okay with bullying?

>> No.5105561

>>5105513
I feel the need to do so in order to fulfill my biological imperative to reproduce whatever means you choose to employ the end is the same. Your need for spirituality can be reduced to a need for community and reassurance, which makes it easier to find a mate. It also assuages your fear of death which ties in with your primal instinct to preserve yourself.

>> No.5105602

>>5105561

>I feel the need to fulfill my biological imperative

thanks for revealing your spiritual imperative. This is the crutch upon which you pour faith. You haven't a single shred of evidence to give me that points to your actions moving towards this instinctively.

>Your need for spirituality can be reduced to a need for community and reassurance, which makes it easier to find a mate. It also assuages your fear of death which ties in with your primal instinct to preserve yourself.

Your need to reduce my needs is obviously moving towards the logical rationalisation that you are asserting dominance. You are reducing your own decisions to a form of faith. Indeed, in relinquishing religion you've become more religious.

>> No.5105619

>>5105519
Yes? Have you read any Nietzsche?

>> No.5105625

>>5105482
You sound like you would eat your young.

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5105673

>>5105602

>> No.5105935

>>5103642
Why would you care? I don't.

>> No.5106214

>>5104587
Kekked

>> No.5106228

>>5103646
this is a false rumour.
>>5103642
>lol he didnt even have da punani so he must be dumb!

Things virgins say

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5106234

Well, I would renounce to my sexual life if I could thing as well as my favorite Philosopher.

>> No.5106396

>>5104778
Holy Jesus, ignore everyone and definitely don't start with BoT. Maaaybe BGE, Twilight of the Idols is probably the best place to get a Nietzsche overview.

>> No.5107922

>>5105357
>Aquinas
>Good philosopher

Literally a retard monk who copied and misinterpreted Aritstoles.

>> No.5107949

>Nietzsche
>Kant
>Newton
>Tesla

If they were so smart, why didn't they get laid?

>> No.5108045

>>5107949
Nietzsche tried but Lou Salome was kinda a cunt or something.
Kant never got around town.
Newton chose to live with a celibacy.
Tesla was just a beta, very likely into NTR.

>> No.5108055

>>5106234

kant? :DDD more like 'cunt' xDDD

Sorry for shitposting - Ignore this post.

>> No.5108069

>>5103748
stirner is gay

>> No.5108095

>>5105386
>2014
>being married
get a load of this loser

>> No.5108150

>>5104631
Ally Sheddy ?

>> No.5108211

>>5104675
Ingrid ?

>> No.5108459

>>5103669
Please, would've dropped Nietzsche as soon as they glazed over the sentence "God is dead," thinking that there was no more worth saying. I don't really get /b/, though, unless you think Nietzsche was a 2edgy4u 14-year-old pretend hacker.

>> No.5108464

>>5108459
*/r/atheism would've

>> No.5108470

>>5103714
yeah like the holocaust

>> No.5108471 [DELETED] 

>>5108069
Stirner was married twice.

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5108477

>>5108069
Stirner was married twice.
>>5108150
I'm not that old.
>>5108211
Who?

>> No.5108537

>>5103642
Indifferent. It makes no difference whether or was or not.

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5108545

Best modern philosopher coming through.

>> No.5108553

>>5108545

well that was unimpressive

>> No.5108867

>>5108470
No one whose philosophy is associated with the holocaust is my favorite philosopher though.

>> No.5108882

>>5108545
upvoted.

>inb4 lardass commies

>> No.5108893

>>5108545
he seems alright but his thoughts on religion struck me as being a bit simplistic / fedora

granted i haven't delved deeply into his works, so i may be missing parts of his arguments