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I think that possibilities for this title are Maurice Ravel's Jeux d'eau, Erik Satie's Gymnopedie No.1, or Claude Debussy's Reverie? What do you think?

>> No.5266633

>>5266616
>Erik Satie's Gymnopedie No.1

>> No.5266641

>>5266633
It has something kind of avant-guarde about it. Can you not hear it?

>> No.5266642

4'33"

>> No.5266648

where the /lit/ at

>> No.5266659

>>5266616
None of this is avant-garde.

>> No.5266671

>>5266642
beautiful isn't the right word, but definitely the most interesting.

>>5266659
4'33" is definitely avant-garde, that's hardly up for debate.

>> No.5266672

>>5266616
>Erik Satie's Gymnopedie No.1

gr8 b8 m8

>> No.5266673

>>5266671
I was responding to OP bae

>> No.5266676

Sorabji - Interludium Primum

and lol Ravel and Debussy avant-garde

>> No.5266678

>>5266616
The pieces you've named are impressionist music. There's nothing remotely "avant-garde" about them. They adhere to conventional compositional techniques and understanding of harmony.

Messiaen's Vingt Regards sur l'Enfant Jésus would be a better example of avant-garde piano music.

>> No.5266684

>>5266673
oh lol my b

>> No.5266823

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUTXNxFvjDw

Cage was (sometimes) genious

>> No.5267251

>>5266616
all of Sonatas and Interludes for Prepared Piano by John Cage

>> No.5267253

>>>/m. . .

Oh wait. This isn't about some annoying indie band or memerap. They wouldn't know.

>> No.5267313

>>5266616
Can I just ask what Poincaré has to with this?

>> No.5268363

>>5266678
avant garde is relative to the time period nigga

>> No.5268375

>>5266642
That's not specifically a piano composition, to be fair.

>> No.5268416

Stockhausen's Klavierstucke, obv

>> No.5268438

>>5268363
Not entirely true. A lot of avant-garde things from the 20th century and later are going to be avant-garde forever, mainly because they're objectively unpleasant to listen to.

>> No.5268452

>>5266659
Hi Tallis. I don't visit /mu/ much but I've seen you around and know you're rather fond of classical music - can you give me an idea of where to start with it? I like to listen to instrumental music when I read and classical is the only thing I've found that's completely instrumental and also enjoyable for me to listen to - so, what are "The Greeks" when it comes to classical music?

>> No.5268453

>>5268438
This also applies to visual art, literature, movies, etc, but change "listen to" to "look at", "read", "watch", etc.

>> No.5268458

>>5268452
The Greeks are the Greeks, but sadly, very little Greek music survives today, so you have to start with liturgical plainchant, possibly the most boring music ever composed. Sorry

>> No.5268465

>>5268458
By that I meant, what are the best classical composers to start with to give myself an understanding of how later composers built on their work? Or is there even any need for that in music? I'm not too familiar with music history.

>> No.5268509

>>5268465
You aren't going to understand how later composers build on the work of earlier composers unless you take a course on music history and learn about different forms and styles. Otherwise, just look for a list of things and listen to whatever you want

>> No.5268510

>>5266676
Sorabji's Fantaisie Espagnole is amazing

>> No.5268525

>>5268438
forever is a long time

>> No.5268556

>>5268465
Ancient music e.g. Seikilos -> Gregorian plainchant -> Church counterpoint -> Renaissance counterpoint -> Baroque -> Classical