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I want to learn Classical Latin, what are some recommended books?

>> No.5496196

Harrius Potter et Philosophi Lapis

>> No.5496209

are you there autism? its me aspergers.

>> No.5497915

>>5496188

Hans Orberg is the way.

>> No.5497929

Wheelock. Now go, autismo, and learn to the extreme!

>> No.5497967

>>5497929

>Wheelock

I really think it's suboptimal. It doesn't have you reading enough and just teaches you a lot of disjointed grammar rules and random vocabulary. After Wheelock when you try to read something real and difficult you puzzle it apart like a crossword puzzle rather than read it with pleasure like you would any other language. Orberg remedies this by exposing you to tons and tons of Latin right from the beginning so you don't have to memorize much at all you know the grammar by experience. You don't have to sit there and think "hmm is this an ablative of source or ablative absolute or dative of reference or maybe dative of the agent with that gerundive a couple of words back or...", you have enough experience that your brain juggles all of those concepts subconsciously and selects the correct one from the context of the sentence.

>autismo

What are you, underage? People have been learning Latin for thousands of years for pleasure and profit.

>> No.5498172

>>5497967
>autists have been learning Latin for thousands of years for masturbatory pleasure.

ftfy

>> No.5498193

>>5497967
Knowing the grammar rules should come first. 'Juggling' is not a rigorous pedagogical technique.

>> No.5498211

>>5498172

Quidnam dixisti modo mihi, cinaedule? Ego te certiorem faciam me exiisse e Phocis Classiariis optimum meae ordinis et in frequentibus incursionibus occultis contra Al-Qaeda expertum esse, et plus quam trecentas caedes probatas habere. In bello guerilla educatus sum et ego sum optimus ictor in totis FC viribus armatis. Tu es nil mihi praeterquam aliud destinatum. Ego te, scelus, conteram adamussim ut numquam usquam visum est in orbe terrarum, annota mea, malum, verba. Arbitrarisne te posse illas contumelias dicere impune per interrete? Iterum arbitrare, nequam. Etiam cum colloquimur advoco meum secretum rete curiosorum per totas FCA et tuum IP excipitur, iamiamque ita potius est te parari procellae, vermis. Procella quae omnino perdat illud miserandulum quod tu tuam vitam nominas. Per deos immortales tu es mortuus, puercule. Ubivis, quandoque esse ego possum et novi te trucidare pluribus quam septingentis modis - et illi meis manibus solis. Non solum sum educatus plurifariam in proeliis inermis sed usu ego fruor toti armentarii Foederatarum Civitatum Marini Corporis et eo utar effuse ut detergam tuum miserum os de facie telluris, caenulum. Si novisses defamatam ultionem quam "callidum" tuum dictum inlaturum fuisse fortasse retinuisses tuam linguam. Sed non poteras, non fecisti, et nunc poenas solvis, fatue miselle. Ego furiam cacabo super te totum et tu in illa merges. Per deos immortales tu es mortuus, puercule.

>> No.5498217

>>5498211
>spaces
>not all caps

>> No.5498226

>>5498193

Well of course you learn the grammar rules but you learn them and practice tons of reading so you internalize them organically rather than know them only in the abstract.

"Juggling" grammatical concepts is not a pedagogical technique it's something you do subconsciously when you have learned a language properly.

>> No.5498795

>>5497929
Thanks
>>5497967
Unfortunately they don't have Orberg at my library :(

>> No.5498885

Get a srs app like Anki.

Add phrases and their translation as you find them, the repetition algorithm will make you memorize vocabulary and even infer some grammar

>> No.5498912

>>5498211
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>> No.5498921

>>5498912
instantly twice as funny

>> No.5498923
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>>5496188
Jenney's First Year Latin is goddamn fantastic.
It's out of print, but my whiteass private school still used them... had a full grasp of the language with ease just by doing the exercises and going through the chapters.
They're pricey, but you can easily find one online.

>> No.5498942

I just torrented Rosetta stones latin series, I'll let you know if its any good

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>>5498912
>not writing from right to left in the Etruscan alphabet

>> No.5498981

>>5498942
Please be a joke.

>> No.5498995

>>5498981
its not my only source, and I know RS isn't that good but its better than nothing

>> No.5498997

>>5498942
rosetta stone is junk trash made to cash in on the educational software meme of the mid 2000s.

sorry bro

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>>5498948
>not preferring boustrophedon

>> No.5499432

All you need to know is COGITO ERGO SUM. ET TU BRUTE?

>> No.5499438

>>5498923
Thanks, I just picked that up from the library.

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>>5499421
Goddamn I love this place sometimes

>> No.5500810

>>5498912
>"U"s and "V"s delineated

goths everybody
ffs

>> No.5500883

>>5499421
what is that, an ancient glory hole?

>> No.5501252

Han's Orberg's Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata. It's like a Latin Pimsleur but in book form with more vocabulary acquisition.

>> No.5501269

>>5501252
Supplement with the Dowling Method (google it) and you're golden

>> No.5501363

Latin: An Intensive Course
Latin Via Ovid

>> No.5501391

>>5496188

classical latin: an introductory course by jc mckeown

>> No.5503363

bump for more Latin discussion, I'm reading the Pro Sex. Roscio right now and it's pretty badass stuff, a murder trial.

>> No.5503691

>>5503363
I'm a couple chapters in Lingua Latina now and while it's definitely useful, it's so unbelievably boring. I'm really looking forward into getting into actual Latin literature.