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The only philosophy that ever mattered is empiricism because it led to the scientific method--therefore everything we use today, aka microchips, internet, etc.

What the fuck did Kant's categorical imperative ever fucken do? Nuthin. Decartes' "think therefore I am," nuthin. Plato's cave allegory? Bupkis.

Is 99.99% of philosophy lower than astrology?

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>> No.6107416

>>6107399
Why choose empiricism over scientific realism?

>> No.6107418

>>6107399
Kant, Descartes, and Plato were wrong about some things

THEREFORE FUCK EVERY PHILOSOPHER EVER

>> No.6107430

>>6107418
Alright, what the fuck did Kieregegaard ever do for human posterity other than have cool hair? Go ahead, explain and justify teaching Kiergekaard to children at 1000$ bucks a semester.

>> No.6107431 [DELETED] 

The sad thing is that people really think that science excludes philosophy.wn

>> No.6107439

The sad thing is that people really think that science excludes philosophy.

>> No.6107441

>>6107399
>What the fuck did Kant's categorical imperative ever fucken do?

It gave us an interesting alternative to utilitarianism to think about.

>Descartes' "think therefore I am,"

Laid the bedrock for thinking about and discussing consciousness.

>Plato's cave allegory

Led us to ask about the veracity of reality and our place within it

Step up your bait game, anon. This is so weak that I'm embarassed to have replied.

>> No.6107452

>>6107430
That's a cheap college.

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>>6107430
>implying he gave a fuck

>> No.6107469

But modern science isn't stricly the offspring of empiricism anymore than astronomy is only descended from astrology you fucking chungnimp. Modern science is grounded on a combination of empiricism and rationalism that was made possible by, among other, Descartes and Kant (and Plato as well since he groomed Aristotles and Aristotles was one of the greatest practical empiricist ever).

>> No.6107476

>>6107469
>chungnimp

That's a new one...

>> No.6107477

>>6107452
Fucking yuropoors

>> No.6107478

>>6107399
Empiricism is anti scientific realism.

>> No.6107481

>>6107469
>Modern science is grounded on a combination of empiricism and rationalism that was made possible by, among other, Descartes and Kant (and Plato as well since he groomed Aristotles and Aristotles was one of the greatest practical empiricist ever).

Are you fucken high?

>> No.6107483

>>6107476
I hope you like it. /lit should invent more words. We already have proved we suck at collective and individual writing so that's pretty much all we've left.

>> No.6107487

>>6107481
Start spelling "fucking" correctly, you fucken teenager.

>> No.6107489

>>6107481
High IQ, yes. Do you need me to rephrase myself in a way understandible to a four years old ?

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>> No.6107531

>>6107510
top kek

>> No.6108213 [DELETED] 

literally the only good thread on /lit/ right now, so true.

>> No.6109121 [DELETED] 

Brimming with truth: the thread.

>> No.6109128

this thread sux

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>>6107399
>The only philosophy that ever mattered is empiricism because it led to the scientific method

>> No.6109161

>he hasn't read the idealists

LAMO

>> No.6109240

>>6109161
Why would you?

Russell already did.

>> No.6109341 [DELETED] 

Truth.

>> No.6109367

what philosophy are you using to say that a type of philosophy is better because it developed more objects? i can't see how you could verify that with the scientific method

>> No.6111247

>>6109240
Russell was the shitposter of the 20th century

>> No.6111269

What about philosophy that leads to cultural changes?

>> No.6111307

>The ideas and assumptions of philosophical naturalism were first seen in the works of the Ionian pre-Socratic philosophers. One such was Thales, considered to be the father of science, as he was the first to give explanations of natural events without the use of supernatural causes. These early philosophers subscribed to principles of empirical investigation that strikingly anticipate naturalism.[6]

Naturalism, in classical Indian philosophies, was the foundation of two (Vaisheshika, Nyaya) of six orthodox schools and one (Carvaka) heterodox school of Hinduism.[7][8] The Vaisheshika school is traced to 2nd century BCE.[9][10]

The modern emphasis in methodological naturalism primarily originated in the ideas of medieval scholastic thinkers during the Renaissance of the 12th century:

By the late Middle Ages the search for natural causes had come to typify the work of Christian natural philosophers. Although characteristically leaving the door open for the possibility of direct divine intervention, they frequently expressed contempt for soft-minded contemporaries who invoked miracles rather than searching for natural explanations. The University of Paris cleric Jean Buridan (a. 1295-ca. 1358), described as "perhaps the most brilliant arts master of the Middle Ages," contrasted the philosopher's search for "appropriate natural causes" with the common folk's habit of attributing unusual astronomical phenomena to the supernatural. In the fourteenth century the natural philosopher Nicole Oresme (ca. 1320–82), who went on to become a Roman Catholic bishop, admonished that, in discussing various marvels of nature, "there is no reason to take recourse to the heavens, the last refuge of the weak, or demons, or to our glorious God as if He would produce these effects directly, more so than those effects whose causes we believe are well known to us."

Enthusiasm for the naturalistic study of nature picked up in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries as more and more Christians turned their attention to discovering the so-called secondary causes that God employed in operating the world. The Italian Catholic Galileo Galilei (1564–1642), one of the foremost promoters of the new philosophy, insisted that nature "never violates the terms of the laws imposed upon her."[11]

>During the Enlightenment, a number of philosophers including Francis Bacon and Voltaire outlined the philosophical justifications for removing appeal to supernatural forces from investigation of the natural world. Subsequent scientific revolutions would offer modes of explanation not inherently theistic for biology, geology, physics, and other natural sciences.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism_%28philosophy%29#Origins_and_history

>> No.6111320

>>6111269
Are you fuckin dumb? Technology, more than any other factor, brings about "cultural changes".