/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.6135247]

is the fact that young adult fiction is written at the bare minimum english reading level, contains the same generic, revolutionary-struggle plot repeated in marginally different settings with identical, renamed characters, and is a far cry from our glorious western canon, which students once read in high school, even grade school, to be taken as an insult to people in the age bracket of "young adult?"

[Anonymous No.6135255]

>anime

[Anonymous No.6135258]

it's entertainment

proven record for popularity

hard to beat it down

[Anonymous No.6135278]

>>6135247
Kids don't read anymore. Literature is the art that generally takes the most effort. Apart from possibly video games, but kids are all about instant gratification.

>inb4 video games aren't art x(

[Anonymous No.6135279]

>>6135258

so, are we meant then to take the entertainment provided us as the default of fiction for a certain age group? does the name of the genre, taken with its market share, not imply an eventual elimination of other literature being read at a certain age? and if not that age, the age in which the mind is coming into maturity, and settling into the patterns of the rest of its life, that difficult, challenging, magical time we call "young adulthood" then when? if the young adult fiction is all the young adult read, it will be all the adult, and the elder, are able to comprehend. literature's final retreat into the deepest cloisters of the ivory tower will be complete within the generation.

[Anonymous No.6135287]

>>6135278

aren't there any consequences of this? is it really better to leave reading behind us when we leave the schoolhouse for the afternoon?

[Anonymous No.6135298]

>>6135287
Those who have an interest in reading will read.
It's not like schools will stop giving reading assignments, other than in America, that is.

[傘 !zYHpFDC98U No.6135513]

>>6135247
That is a fucking great wallpaper

[Anonymous No.6135534]

>>6135278
>Apart from possibly video games
Nah, nobody would complain about MGS3 being required-playing before MGSV, but with books required-reading can go all the way back to Ancient Greece, it's the most consuming hobby

[Anonymous No.6135611]

>Tfw YA has ruined dystopia by barely even being dystopia

[Tallis !!y+12CeFwYOo No.6135618]

>>6135247
No. It means that you're not supposed to read it if you're older or more mature than a young adult.

It also means that it is children books with more violence and sex, yet with the same literary merit.

[Anonymous No.6135620]

>Are light novels offensive to beings of light?

[Anonymous No.6135644]

Exactly

Young adult degrades literary culture

[Anonymous No.6135647]

>>6135644
this. it should banned.

[Anonymous No.6136199]

>>6135644
There are actually ''young adults'' who think that because no one they know reads, that reading 'YA' means something...

>"Yeah, I read."


>mfw I'm friends with one of these

[Anonymous No.6136239]

>>6135644
>>6135647
>>6136199

So, no one was reading anything before YA got big so it's not like any potential readers were lost. Lit is like coke, it will find the people who are secretly looking for it. Also we get to be the literary elite.

[Anonymous No.6136266]

If you were truly a patrician you would ask yourself what the success of YA means about our contemporary culture, and more specifically you would ask yourself what the currently most proeminent themes in YA tell about us. Compare them to nineteenth century pop-lit, to early twentieth-century magazines. You'll see how the trend in preoccupations evolve. It's really interesting, somebody should make a phD thesis on this (probably has already be done though).

[Anonymous No.6136291]

>>6136239
>Lit is like coke, it will find the people who are secretly looking for it.

This is perfect. Where have you heard this said about coke?

[Anonymous No.6136384]

YA literature is deliberately made to contrast with the sort of shit American kids have to read in High School. For someone who's just read the absolutely dreary, boring ass shit that is Of Mice and Men, The Great Gatsby, Great Expectations, or the like, YA literature is amazing, because it's got plots and characters that are actually relevant to those kids, whereas I've never met anyone who actually claimed to like, say, Pip, or Tom Sawyer, whereas there are plenty of people who like characters like Nevelle Longbottom; because they're actual relatable people who face the same issues those YAs face.

YA literature isn't meant to match your "glorious western canon" and it isn't interested in making your expectations. YA literature is about being fun to read and making money.

[Anonymous No.6136426]

The truth is, education is more important as a socialization and institutionalization structure than as a place to actually learn things. I confused this early on and now I'm so educated I can't function in society let alone talk to pleb . On the other hand, I know plenty of individuals who realized the parameters of the institutional process and gamed it to get work in banks and account management with marketing firms, law practice, investment banking and so on.

[Anonymous No.6137537]

>>6136266
i'm assisting my professor in research on this topic exactly, though he isn't interested in the "young adult" side of it, more so 'mature' dystopian fantasies. maybe i'll run the idea by him. or save it for myself >:)

[Anonymous No.6137820]

I dont consider any of the big "dystopian" works in YA to be dystopian, they're all just post apocalyptic fiction that people wanted to use a fancy word for so it wouldn't scare parents from buying the books for their kids.

[Anonymous No.6137824]

>>6135247

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfEw5H_LSoQ

[Anonymous No.6137844]

>>6137824

based Alec Guinness know his shit

[Anonymous No.6137891]

>>6135247
Japanese young adults are the least enlightened humans on the planet

[Anonymous No.6140318]

>>6135611