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631804 No.631804 [Reply] [Original]

so this book is meant to be biographical or something?

and lol he turns into a bug

>> No.631823

Yeah, Kafka went and found a man that had actually turned into a giant, cockroach-like insect and then followed him around while he interacted with his family, and even refused to help him when there was a large fruit lodged in his back.

>> No.631830

it represents his childhood acting career. When he was playing the role of Hamlet, some riff raff threw an apple at him and ended his career

>> No.631838

>>631830

dumbest thing i've ever read

>> No.631841

I think the moral of the story is that when you're at your best people don't even value you sometimes for what you provide. But as soon as you turn into a big ass beetle, everyone wants to step on you

>> No.631843

sage

>> No.631863

>>631838

trolled

>> No.631926

>>631841

so why turn into the big ass beetle in the first place?

>> No.631933

i think its about how bugs are worthless pieces of shit

>> No.631947

everyone in the fucking book is a flaming homosexual

>> No.631967

GODDAMNIT U GUISE IT FUCKING METAPHOR

HE TURN IN 2 NOT BUG; VERMIN

METAPHOR 4 SOCIAL OUTKAST LIKE METAL ILLNES

FFFUUKKKK

>> No.631973

maybe he felt like a bug for living with his parents? (haven't read the book in a while)

he died by the apple like it was the apple in the garden of eden. He came to some kind of realization/experience that slowly transformed him from a human into a bug, the way schooling does?

>> No.631977

>>631973

oh jesus christ

>> No.632006

I'm pretty sure it's about how you'll die if you have incestuous feelings for your sister

>> No.632008

>>632006

luke skywalker did alright

>> No.632014
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>>631977

I mad too.

>> No.632051

Just because he was a beetle doesn't mean he had changed in anyway. He just changed physically though he continued being the same person on the inside. When he changed into a bug he probably saw how selfish his whole family was.

>> No.632115

>>632051

how does that not qualify as change... just because it's physical?

>> No.632137

>>631823

I pictured the bug as a cross between a caterpillar and a centipede.

>> No.632183

the whole point is that it's NOT a bug

>> No.632191

>>632183
The whole point is that it doesn't matter what the fuck he is. It's a character driven story. Who cares what he is? He could be a giant dildo crossed with a goat ffs.

>> No.634444

nahghggggg

>> No.634456

>>632191
The bug metaphor is pretty important especially since it is more like ''vermin'' because he realized that he was just a vermin living from scraps, marginal, constantly in fear of being crushed.

>> No.634458

No, it's meant to be autobiographical.

>> No.634468
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634468

This is exactly what is to be expected of Americans these days. They're taught to twist and stretch the story in a attempt to squeeze a half-assed theme and moral out of every fucking sentence. Books don't have to have a hidden meaning, as a lot of American English teachers seem to think.

Christ.

>> No.634480

>>634468
Seriously? Are you claiming Americans think too much?

>> No.634494

>>634480
It's the end of trolling as we know it.

On topic again: Where is this beetle stuff coming from? I'm pretty sure the term used in the book was just 'vermin' or something. Really, Kafka just wrote about himself. All of his books are about himself. They are more introspective than anything else.

>> No.634501

>>634468
you mad because someone noticed subtext?

>> No.634506

>>634468
I know. Annoys me. Why can't people just enjoy a well written story without trying to find a DEEP MEANING?

>> No.634515

World needs more unthinking sheeple like everyone outside the U. S., amiright?

>> No.634519

>>634468

That's really not just an American thing.

>> No.634520

>>634515
No.

>> No.634521

>>634506
YEAH WHY GO THROUGH ALL THE TROUBLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE AUTHOR'S INTENDED MEANING? FUCKING LITERACY HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> No.634523

>>634521
sorry, I mad. Are you really suggesting that we should not try to comprehend basic themes or symbols? because if you are then go ahead, i won't stop you, but don't act as if it were some kind of anachronism.

>> No.634532

>>634521
Well, there's understanding themes and then there's just overanalysing. The Metamorphosis is an example of the latter.

>> No.634577

I can only pray that you are all trolls.

>> No.634603

I'm reasonably sure it was supposed to be an insect. The translation I used called it a 'bug' I believe. Due to the hard shell making it difficult for him to turn over I can see where people are getting beetle from.

And I thought it was about families who, rather than seeking help for family members who are diseased/crazy just lock them up and pretend they aren't there.

>> No.634616

>>634532

>The Metamorphosis is an example of the latter

It's even worse with The Trial. Hell, I'd say Kafka is one of the most generally overanalyzed authors ever.

>> No.634617

>>634603
this seems reasonable.

Man, being an english lit teacher must be some serious lulz. Can't imagine the kind of crazy shit people see in these Rorschach tests

>> No.634937

There's so much to Metamorphosis that if you didn't get it, you just didn't get it and nobody can ever help you.

>> No.634947

>>634937
damn it, no! ( ._.)
I want to be lazy and right

>> No.634956

this book is about exis.... nevermind

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635013

ITT: whatisthisidonteven?!
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