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6608573 No.6608573 [Reply] [Original]

Post quotes you love by authors you can't stomach.

I start:

“Love binds, and it binds forever. Good binds while evil unravels. Separation is another word for evil; it is also another word for deceit.”
― Michel Houellebecq

I personally can't take Houellebecq seriously, with all that cynicism and edginess, and his stories are always about himself lamenting the fact that he can't have sex with hot girls, and the fact that he has sex as his only reason to live.

>> No.6608599

Houellebecq has undoubtedly had sex with a lot of hot girls. He's a fiction writer, not a memoirist, and his stories tend to be microcosmic representations of his wider sociological observations.

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>>6608599
>Houellebecq has undoubtedly had sex with a lot of hot girls

>> No.6608614

>>6608599
“The terrible predicament of a beautiful girl is that only an experienced womanizer, someone cynical and without scruple, feels up to the challenge. More often than not, she will lose her virginity to some filthy lowlife in what proves to be the first step in an irrevocable decline.”
- himself

>not a memoirist
His wush-fulfilment novel platform as a protagonist named after him.

>> No.6608615

>>6608607
You underestimate the phenomenon of audience pussy.

>> No.6608616

>>6608599
>and his stories tend to be microcosmic representations of his wider sociological observations.
And Complete trite they are.

>> No.6608623

>>6608614
>“The terrible predicament of a beautiful girl is that only an experienced womanizer, someone cynical and without scruple, feels up to the challenge. More often than not, she will lose her virginity to some filthy lowlife in what proves to be the first step in an irrevocable decline.”

Absolutely true.

Incidental question: are you a fan of DFW?

>> No.6608629

>>6608616
His observations can't be complete bunk considering the amount of people (of both sexes) who relate to them.

>> No.6608636

>>6608623

Not a fan. Read IJ, and it was reasonable. I have nothing against but I don't like him either.

>> No.6608639

>>6608636
I only asked because it occurred to me that DFW makes a similar observation when Orin meets Joelle.

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>>6608599
>Houellebecq has undoubtedly had sex with a lot of hot girls

>> No.6608708

>>6608690
Since he became a famous author and world-class edgemaster, he has definitely been knee-deep in pussy. That's just how the world works, Anon. Women in general love status, and edgy women love creative types - the more "tortured", the better.

>> No.6608727

>>6608639
The quote is from IJ you fucking moron

>> No.6608733
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>>6608629
Ppl relate to The Alchemist too. Or they think they do. The void observations and indulgences are porn for the nihilistic minded. I am one of those, and I liked the indulgent part of it. The observations are incredibly juvenile though, his economic ones on particular are like copy paste out of The Economist but not even close to that quality. It's like the exposition Camus does in The Stranger -- any person with reasonable years under his belt and is even remotely self-conscious of life could AND SHOULDN'T make.

>> No.6608735

>>6608727
i get it

i get your joke

"lol"

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>>6608690
>>6608607

Sartre was also ugly as sin yet was drowning in pussy thanks to his celebrity (and manipulating underage girls). That's just how women are.

>> No.6608745

>>6608733
The Alchemist does not contain any social commentary. And Houellebecq is also rated highly by many critics, academics and generally smart people; Coelho, on the other hand...

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>>6608690
>>6608607
jealous cucks detected. He's a financially successful french writer you think has any problems getting laid? even Bill maher fucks hot chicks consistently.

>> No.6608758

>>6608733
>his economic ones on particular are like copy paste out of The Economist

Particularly poor comparison considering his are on the opposite ideologically. You should liken Link him closer to poor man's Marxism instead.

>> No.6608760

>>6608573
>the fact that he has sex as his only reason to live.

Honestly, it's one of the easiest (for some) ways to achieve some of kind happiness.

for everyone else it's:
>hobbies
>enlightenment
>drinking

Only the middle is actually more significant in life improvement.

>> No.6608767

>>6608745
Okay bad example. Maybe that erotic novel Wetlands is a better match.
"Smart people" are subject to bad taste too, that's not really an argument you're making -- it's s step in the direction of objectification which is impossible.

>> No.6608779

>>6608758
Yes, wasn't a comparison of political or any other standing but saying it's like he PLAGIARIZED them from somewhere . Because they were _almost_ extraneous how they were included like newspaper clippings glued in between an inked novel.

>> No.6608800

It's funny that you guys are speaking about Coelho because I once saw a quote that I really liked from him (although I think he is p shitty overrall). Can't remember what to search though.

But idk, I guess everyone gotta say something good at least once. Like, just once is not that hard, even for people who are total hacks.

>> No.6608825

Setting some things straight here;

Houellebeqc is an edgy nihilist who lacks the sense of marketing Palahniuk has to put at least what resembles a marketable ending to his stories, so he writes about the same repetitive themes as if they were a basis for a decent line of philosophies, when in fact everything is reduced to pessimist thoughts and sexual musings, as the protagonists just hangs there thinking about sex and masturbating, not very different than what any random virgin in a friday night would write about. If he's drowing in pussy or not, that's because of his acclaim, and wherever his acclaim goes, people calling him islamophopbic go right after him.

Paulo Coelho is a hack who uses his name as some kind of brand, said "Ulysses" was just style without content, when his writings are as devoid of decent meaning as a novel written by a respected famous author can be. The man is so desensitized of his own persona's value he goes around saying he had gay sex as the passive three different times to know if he liked it.

I'm not saying you can't be a pretentious fuck and be good. You can also be obsessed with sex and be good, which Joyce and Bukowski were, but at least be self-aware.

>> No.6608838

>>6608767

Wetlands is terrible. Just a bunch of gross-outs and sexual scenes put there to attract the media's attention as a daring novel, when in fact the character that has the obsessions about said things comes up with the lamest excuse for doing them possible in the fucking world, which comes as some kind of bullshit white-people problems.

I mean, Patrick Bateman was a complete psycho and several passages of the book are hard to read, which gave it a lot of media, but at least the character is written in an unapologetic way, without justifications, and the whole collective of his insanity elements work well inside of him.

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>>6608825
>good, which Joyce and Bukowski were,
>Bukowski
>good

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>>6608842

What's wrong with my tastes?

>> No.6608908

>>6608735
I don't. Help /lit/

>> No.6608926

>>6608739
Sartre was a philosophical rockstar that women found deep and profound (I seriously doubt they feel the same way about Houellebecq), and even then a lot of his conquests were Beauvoir's doing more than his.

>>6608753
Bill Maher is a charismatic television icon.

>> No.6608933

>>6608753
I'm sure Ted Bundy was drowning in pussy too, but I don't see anyone jelly. But if you make a career you of "I can't have sexes and I want to sex" you're a target.

>> No.6608954

>>6608933
>jelly.
I know you're underage but I will respond anyway. Anyone who is famous and presents themselves as an intellectual gets to bang hot chicks. It's just how it works. I don't understand it but women seem to like fucking ugly old men when they know they have money and fame.

>>6608926
>Sartre was a philosophical rockstar
>philosophical
kek
>rockstar
no.

>Bill Maher is a charismatic television icon.
>charismatic
Do you want to know how I know you're a pleb?

>> No.6608971

>>6608954
>Do you want to know how I know you're a pleb?

Because he likes things you don't like?

>> No.6608984

>>6608971
>like Bill maher
>thinks Sartre is a "philosophical rockstar"
whatever you have to tell your self subjective boy

>> No.6608991

>>6608573
There's one quote by that Decline of the West author, bald racist right winged nut job guy...been looking for it for a while.

Something like...

"There are times when certain men rise to power who simply, through conventional means, cannot be hindered."

Or something to that effect. Been looking for it for a while now. No luck.

>> No.6608994

>>6608954
You do realize Sartre literally swam in pussy ?

>> No.6608995

>>6608954
Sartre was a hack who just reiterated great philosophers for people who weren't familiar with them.

I personally find Maher to be very annoying

None of this changes what I said

>> No.6608996
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6608996

Why does he smoke that way?

Does he just beg for attention? Isn't that a cheap trick? Am I missing something here?

>> No.6609004

>>6608933
A target for what? Obviously incorrect accusations by some anonymous nobody? I'm sure he's devastated. Everyone apart from you knows that he's drowning in vagina.

>> No.6609008

>>6608996
It's how french smoke when we don't have an ashtray around

>> No.6609011

>>6608995
>Sartre was a hack

All philosophers are hacks, that's the definition of philosopher.

Hack

>> No.6609016

>>6608996
He's an edgy Frenchman. That's just the sort of thing they do.

>> No.6609018

>>6609008
How does it help?
See also >>6608573

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>>6608954
>women seem to like fuck rich old men
>you a pleb because you watch Bill Maher
>I'm a fan of Houellebeqc because he, like myself, is a sexually frustrated frech nihilist who is treated as edgy by the media because he hates muslim people.

Do you wear your fedora indoors or nah?

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>>6608996

All hacks have a certain retarded pose. Pic related.

>> No.6609027

>>6609018
It simply stops the fucking ash from falling on your fucking book or paper. You pick it up like a bad habit. Most people hold their cigarette downards since they smoke outside but french people smoke everywhere

>> No.6609028

>>6608994
He was a paedophile tho.

>> No.6609036

>>6608994
>You do realize Sartre literally swam in pussy ?
yes and all I was saying was that he was a posturing charlatan.

>>6608995
OK sorry I was triggered when I thought there were people on this board who unironically like Sartre and Maher. You can't be to careful you know.

>> No.6609044

>>6609028
He certainly was a fucking nigger (also a disgusting leftist), but he did score girls.

>> No.6609056

>>6609044
Look, I know he was a lefty nutjob paedo, but how exactly was he a nigger?

>> No.6609058

>>6609044
and after all, isn't that the only thing that matters?

>> No.6609067

>>6609011
Even if you think all philosophers are hacks, Sartre was a hack among hacks. No serious philosophical work actually interfaces with him. Sartre was a pop philosopher. And I doubt he would have made ladies so wet otherwise.

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>>6609021
>liking bill "smug" maher
>calling other people fedoras
>thinking women don't fuck ugly rich men
You're an idiot. go back to reddit and come back when you've graduated highschool you whitenight beta faggot.

also
>impyling I like le edgy frenchman who hates le mudslimes
no

>> No.6609073

>>6609056
I was using an analogy anon
>>6609058
La poésie et le cul, anon, la poésie et le cul

>> No.6609079

>>6609068
I forgot. By your thought process, you don't gotta like someone to ride their dick.

Also, I don't like Maher.

>> No.6609085

>>6608996
Looks like a selfie

>> No.6609089

>>6609085
Only if his left arm is two meters long

>> No.6609097

>>6609068
Hugh Hefner pays the women he fucks. If you want to go there, okay, maybe Houellebecq has indeed fucked a lot of hot girls.

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>>6609079

Don't even know why but I keked

>> No.6609106

>>6609079
>By your thought process, you don't gotta like someone to ride their dick.
and by the thought process of the hundreds of women hugh hefner has fucked in the last 5 years you retard. Do you honestly think that the only people who fuck are adults who love each other and that pseudo intellectual frenchmen can't get laid? I bet you're underage or a woman who fucked some posturing faggot and is trying to convince herself she does't regret it.

>> No.6609107

>>6609089
I mean the pose, not the angle. Hitchens' pictures also often look like selfies.

>> No.6609118
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>>6608996
it's frenchness, it's comes natural to them

pic related, actual writer

>> No.6609125

>>6609079
I'm not >>6609106
Where did I imply Hollerback was at all talented?

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6609127

>>6609004

"He's more famous than you, so you can't judge him"

>> No.6609134

>>6608733
>It's like the exposition Camus does in The Stranger -- any person with reasonable years under his belt and is even remotely self-conscious of life could AND SHOULDN'T make

What is wrong with it?

>> No.6609141

>>6609118
Stop trying to make Proust a meme.

>> No.6609143

>>6609118
Where the cigarette at tho?

>> No.6609147
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>>6609097
Gucci doesn't pay shit though. Do you think they fuck him for his good looks?

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>>6609106

Welcome to the world of irony. Leave your aspengers at the entrance.

>> No.6609165

>>6609147
Reminded me of something:
According to 50 Cent, Rick Ross can't even fuck prostitutes with his looks.

>> No.6609166

>>6609127
You're free to judge him, but if you think he doesn't get laid, you are simply wrong.

>> No.6609177

What amuses me about this whole thread is the fact that there are people defending and people trying to disprove the fact that some random frech man has sex.

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>>6609143
>>6609141
not meming, and smoking is for fags
>>6609165
he could give himself a boobjob tho

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>>6609151

>> No.6609182

>>6609147
No, I think it's more than he's a celebrity who has popularity among women, and because of his macho persona.

I seriously doubt many young women are carrying books by Houellebecq around.

>> No.6609187

>>6609134
In 2015 writing an novel that highlights how an individual isn't welcome really in society as an expose in style is pleb. Might as well write a book about how politics is pandering to the masses during elections . It's tacky.

>> No.6609194

>>6609182
What about books by Gucci Maine?

>> No.6609204

>>6609194
you mean Deandre Otis Surrel

>> No.6609213

>>6609194
I don't know, I'm thinking of his music

>> No.6609218

>>6609187
Do you value literary merit, aesthetic, and patricianism over truth?

>> No.6609220

>>6609182
He is very popular among the university crowd. I think the totality of my female acquaintances have read him to an extent

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>>6609181

>> No.6609227

>>6609182
Atomised was one of my ex's favourite books. He's popular with all the same people who like Bukowski, Miller, Nin, Sade, Sartre, etc.

>> No.6609228

>>6609220
A lot of women I know have read Stephen King as well.

You need to understand the distinction between popularity of the writing, and a cult of personality.

>> No.6609233

>>6608573
This. Houellebecq is like /r9k/: the author.

>> No.6609236

>>6609228
Certainly, I'm just saying people have indeed read him.

You can do it too, I believe

>> No.6609238

>>6609220
Are you french?

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>>6609218
nigga you can have a dozen of Carlin rip-off edgemaster comedians, and maybe there is some grain of truth to their rambling about the government and institutions maaan, doesn't mean it isn't terribly painful to watch that sort of platitudinous tripe

>> No.6609251

>>6609228
Stephen king could probably fuck a lot of bad bitches too. Anyone famous gets to fuck above their weightclass

>> No.6609254

>>6609236
I have, I wasn't impressed. I thought it was maybe just because of translation, but his prose in French sucked too.

>> No.6609265

>>6609251
Generally not the sort who are writing about how meaningless and empty sex is, while simultaneously having their characters fuck more women than James Bond does. Houellebecq celebrates and fixates on sex as the ultimate, radical experience and expression of freedom, while at the same time saying it provides no happiness. Seems a lot like sour grapes.

>> No.6609268

ITT Virgins argue about which writers get pussy

>> No.6609271

>>6608607
you can infer that holleybeck didn't have as much sex as he would like during his adolescence , but he probably did fine in his 20s.

source: I am someone who did not have any sexual experiences during highschool and I agree with all the '/r9k/'-ish things I've read by him and I'm doing well now.

>> No.6609277

>>6609254
I meant fuck bitches not read Welbeck lol he's a shit writer

>> No.6609282
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>>6609218
In LITERATURE, yes. In thesis, no.
After you -- how do I say this without coming off as a douche -- after you've realized the truth of the things generally you don't want to hear about sone bright teenage kid telling you
>the government is lying to you!
>life is meaningless; there is no morals!
>individuality in large douses is detrimental to most people's mental health in the long run!

Style is underrated.

>> No.6609285

>>6609265
girls don't need to actually read what an author wrote to be groupies. If you're at a trendy party and you have a way with words and you get introduced as a published and acclaimed author women are quite likely to be interested.

>> No.6609290

>>6609277
That's because I'm attractive, have a good income, and because I can gain full sexual satisfaction from fucking men, and therefore never radiate desperation around women and never feel anxious or clingy.

>> No.6609293

>>6609282
Agreed. Why do authors still always put messages and meaning in there work? Have they not realized the truth?

>> No.6609304

>>6609182
Status trumps almost everything when it comes to banging women. If you are a famous writer who is regarded as significant in a high-culture sense by at least part of the intelligentsia, you will have more hot liberal arts college pussy on your hands than you can handle.

>> No.6609319

So according to what I learned today from /lit/:
>If you are edgy and "tortured", bitches be raining on you
>You can be ugly as Lucifer's haemorrhoids and yet fuck mad bitches if you follow the above
>The fact that Michel Houellebeqc's sex life is active is very important.
>Smoking like a faggot is a trend in France.

If I follow the headlines can I be an edgy author fucking mad bitches, /lit/?

>> No.6609323

>>6609304
Might be true except his message about women and Muslims is not what that demographic likes, in fact I imagine they're hostile to it.

>> No.6609329

>>6609290
Yeah cool buddy but I didn't ask you any questions
Glad you're doing well though

>> No.6609332

>>6609268
The answer is: all of them.

>> No.6609333

>>6609290
>fucking men
what type tho

>> No.6609335

>>6608573
Houellebecq is literally /r9k/ the author

>> No.6609342

>>6609335
>>6609332
>>6609329

they right

>> No.6609343

>>6609333
I'm attracted to both masculine and feminine looking men, and I'm a switch.

>> No.6609352

>>6609293
Most haven't. Ppl be plebs you know. They still need the messages. Just like you and i when we were younger. The sad part is that some of these are the critically acclaimed ones. By so called experts. Vote for more education for all. Yada yada. I just want some witty prose man.

>> No.6609358

>>6609319
>If you are edgy and "tortured", bitches be raining on you
It has nothing to do with your content, John Green could get mad pussy if he wanted to, all you have to do is be an author that hot girls will recognize or feel intellectual from reading your books and then you will have your pick of 8's and 9's.

if Tao Lin the autistic gayboy can fuck some underage boipussy so can you.

>> No.6609361

>>6609343
>I'm a switch
Want me to tell you how I know you're an heterosexual virgin ?

>> No.6609362

>>6609323
see >>6609285

Also do you think liberal university girls never fuck guys who are chauvinistic? political leanings and ideology don't usually matter more than attraction. It's not like he's obliged to say the first time he meets someone "I wish I took a 14 year old girl's virginity ; keep france white"

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>>6609343
mah nigga, partly

general question, what about them boipussies, does writing unlock those?

>> No.6609370

>>6609361
Sure, go ahead.

>> No.6609378

>>6609363
You don't have to write to get boipussy, gay men of all ages are extremely slutty. Hardly any gay couples I've known were monogamous.

>> No.6609381

>>6609370
Actually I forgot you aren't french nvm

>select all street signs
Fuck you Google I'm not helping you develop your fucking pattern recognizing algorythms

>> No.6609389

>>6609381
So the capcha is actively trying to create software that will make capchas obsolete

>> No.6609394

>>6609323
Stuck up liberal arts bitches love it when a man holds their opinions in disdain and forcefully disagrees with them.

>> No.6609397

>>6609394
Yes, if he's handsome and masculine.

>> No.6609407

>>6609389
Nah, Google is using the captcha so people create of database of what image represents what

They are slowly pushing more and more complex shit, like the street signs. We indentify google street's street signs for them so they can build a database and a pattern recognition

but yeah ultimately it would defeat the purpose of the captcha

they did the same shit with the old one and google books

only one of the two words was the captcha, the other one was for database purpose

wiht the new captcha, you also have a margin of error; the margin they use to build the database

>> No.6609437

>>6609352
Have you ever met any women who have known the truth? Is it just the ones around me?

>> No.6609442

>>6609437
No. You must've hoarding all of them. Pls send me some young ones.

>> No.6609459

>>6609442
I'm sorry, I meant the ones around me don't.

How do I deal with being attracted to them? Should I sneak books into their bags and hope they accidentally begin to think?

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6609548

>>6609181
Ride the dick was some kind of metaphor there, as he used wordplay to mean that the other anon was riding michel's dick, and using the sex before mentioned as an allusion.

7/10 to this wordplay

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>>6609548
michel cant have a dick shes woman

>> No.6609707

>>6609562
STOP WITH THOSE FUCKING IMAGES ALREADY

>> No.6609829

>>6608954
>>6609036
Guaranteed never read Sartre. He grew out of Marxism pretty sharpish, but no one let him forget it.

Probable you read half a page of Hegel and a short passage of Kierkegaard and concluded something unsound.

>> No.6609842

there aren't very many quotes I love by authors I hate in this thread...

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>>6609842

>> No.6609920

>>6609842
"Author of post No.6609842 likes mandingo penises." - Me

>> No.6610013

>>6609920
Why so much self hate, anon?

>> No.6610105

>>6609562
never thought I'd see qt Regan being used to avatarfag.

keep it up.

>> No.6611461

>>6608573
What should I read to get started with him?

>> No.6611526

>>6608753
Liberal women are idiots

>> No.6612292

I read his first book and it was fine. Sometimes he could be a bit subtler with his message but it was fun to read, some of the observations were interesting and I think the topics he writes about are only going to become more prevalent in our society as time goes on.

>> No.6612403

>>6608996
He broke his index when he was young

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>>6608926
>Bill Maher
>charismatic