Why is female sexuality generally regarded in different light than male? Written and presented as a "Rainbows and spice" kind of deal, while male is phallic and thoughtlessly cruel, like some sort of rancid, poison-tipped spear jabbing at anyone who comes near?

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Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:39:15 2015 No.7056865 [Reply] [Original]

Why is female sexuality generally regarded in different light than male? Written and presented as a "Rainbows and spice" kind of deal, while male is phallic and thoughtlessly cruel, like some sort of rancid, poison-tipped spear jabbing at anyone who comes near?

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:41:41 2015 No.7056875

Female sexuality is much more pliant than male sexuality. This is why most straight and gay men are exclusively straight or gay whereas most women have at least made out with or even slept with a woman.

>Why is female sexuality generally regarded in different light than male?

because they are different

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:42:18 2015 No.7056876 What you're describing is the pendulum swinging the other way after thousands of years of the exact opposite occurrence.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:42:53 2015 No.7056878 >>7056865 Men don't know how to have sex, they just masturbating between anothers thigh cumming and asking for sexual reassurance isn't sex.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:43:41 2015 No.7056880 >>7056865 Because male and female sexuality is driven in part by different chemical structures and the qualities that emerge from those structures lead to a qualitative difference in how men and women behave and experience sexuality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:44:24 2015 No.7056882 Nice cock sucking lips.... Dunno about you, but I'd like to violently thrust my copulatory organ into each one of their tight little openings..... Pussy first, then ass, then mouth. Fucking cunts deserve it.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:44:31 2015 No.7056884

>>7056865
Because men are taught to be scared to show emotion, and are taught to view sex in terms of dominance and submission; triumph and degradation. Likewise, women are expected to be the gatekeepers, not only to sex, but to morality in general. A promiscuous female as seen as betraying her role by devaluing the sex she's supposed to be 'guarding'. Furthermore, women who act as sexual agents are seen as dangerous to men who take comfort in the security of monogamy; not that I am promoting polyamory or anything. I actually couldn't live like that any more than any other average man, but I don't see things in terms of moralistic bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:44:47 2015 No.7056886 Because society sees men as evil and women as good because that's politically convenient for the current ruling class's project to depopulate the West and replace us all with low-IQ Third Worlders who are even easier to manipulate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:45:50 2015 No.7056890 >>7056875 >because they are different But and how can you than like push for sexual equality when right of the bat there is distinct difference between the sexes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:45:59 2015 No.7056892 >>7056886 How is either sexual pov good or evil

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:47:20 2015 No.7056895 >>7056890 You are right they are less because they are different

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:48:31 2015 No.7056897 Because people are brought up and socialized to hate and fear men

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:48:44 2015 No.7056898 >>7056865 >Why is female sexuality generally regarded in different light than male? Because it is different.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:49:44 2015 No.7056903 >>7056875 Because people repeat horseshit retarded stereotypes like this

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:49:45 2015 No.7056904 >>7056892 How would I know? I'm just a potential rapist pedophile sex-crazed sexist thug who just can't sit still in class.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:49:47 2015 No.7056905 [SPOILER]

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>>7056865
men do not like sex
men love to make women orgasm

women love to love sex, love sex and live through and for sex
>women love sex for sex, men love sex for power [but not necessarily rough], power as transformational of something

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:50:14 2015 No.7056907 >>7056886 lol, /pol/

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:50:24 2015 No.7056909 >>7056890 Any notion of equality outside of mathematical equality is nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:51:06 2015 No.7056913 File: 48 KB, 469x463, 1392950261412.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7056909

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:52:14 2015 No.7056920

>>7056895
I never said the difference is negative to anyone. But two differences cannot be equal; ten dollars is not equal to 8 dollars, unless the person with 8 dollars is held in higher standing than the person with 10, but then you've got another inequality which inflates the price of 8 dollars to ten or more. Female sexuality is inflated, is what I'm like saying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:52:21 2015 No.7056921 >>7056913 The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:53:35 2015 No.7056924 >>7056904 >tfw white male in the US who went to a boarding school in New England then a top-tier university and has a loving family and gf Truly a fate worse than death

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:53:39 2015 No.7056925 >>7056907 I didn't even mention Jews, but, yes, Jews.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:53:59 2015 No.7056927 Men are far more psychologically (and therefore sexually) diverse than women, and more frequently manifest taboo paraphiliae

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:54:00 2015 No.7056928 File: 55 KB, 500x500, 1434023903327.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7056921 Then write something worth more than a fedora to reply with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:55:32 2015 No.7056936 >>7056924 You're right. The top 10% of males experience the quality of life of the top 90% of females. You sure showed me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:55:55 2015 No.7056938 >>7056904 Well I suppose if your sexuality is built on /pol/ trolls and the tumblr womyn they mock I'd feel that way too. However talking too and fucking grills has shown me otherwise. Unless of course you are a rapist then carry on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:56:33 2015 No.7056941 >>7056903 kek this le deep and beautiful lesbian love xDD

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:57:37 2015 No.7056943 >>7056941 Most lesbians are fuckin gross weirdos, but shut-in virgins who watch tons of porn obviously don't discover that

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:57:40 2015 No.7056944 >>7056936 >Them numbers Definitive proof that statistics classes are hell for number spouting retards on the internet

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:58:02 2015 No.7056945 >>7056920 That is such a clumsy comparison. Can you finitize the difference between men and women? Is a difference also necessarily a weakness and such should count less?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:58:05 2015 No.7056946 >>7056938 >Anti-male shaming tactic #17: The "you can't get laid" ad hominem Any other golden chestnuts you're holding on to?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:59:01 2015 No.7056949 >>7056946 Hope this is an actual list and not just some arbitrary number

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:59:08 2015 No.7056950 >>7056924 >tfw almost killed myself at andover where'd you go and how'd you fuck up and end up here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:59:10 2015 No.7056951 >>7056944 Take a stab at it yourself then, chucklefuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 21:59:55 2015 No.7056955 >>7056876 In what period of history and culture was a cock and wrinkly hairy scrotum rubbing itself viscously against other people like some sort of feral cat marking its territory thought of as "Rainbows and spice"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:00:16 2015 No.7056956 >>7056951 >Implying that shit was made up There are people with happy lives browsing 4chan, friend >>7056946 >Easily offended by harmless banter >Uses 'shaming' unironically Is this a new breed of sjw?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:00:33 2015 No.7056957 The male and female sexual response cycles are actually practically identical, the only difference being the male refractory period, which men can get around through certain techniques

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:01:28 2015 No.7056961 >>7056956 You responded to the wrong posts. Fix it if you expect me to keep talking to you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:01:32 2015 No.7056963 >>7056956 >Is this a new breed of sjw? Meet Men's Rights activism, the most important civil rights movement of the 21st century.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:01:34 2015 No.7056964 File: 53 KB, 500x372, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7056865 Because legbeards who can't get laid enjoy making up myths to not feel so bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:01:52 2015 No.7056967 >>7056946 Are you ashamed? I base the goodness of my sex on the experience I have had. In fact I would encourage you to pursue your sexuality to the fullest and not fear boogeymyn.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:01:53 2015 No.7056968 anyone here read some yaoi

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:03:05 2015 No.7056975 >>7056968 >>>/a/

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:03:14 2015 No.7056976 >>7056961 I don't think you understand how ridiculous that post sounds. Lighten up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:03:24 2015 No.7056977 >>7056903 Being all "muh equality" is faggy and uncool in 2015.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:03:29 2015 No.7056978 >>7056963 Virgin-shaming is one of the primary causes of rape culture

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:03:36 2015 No.7056979 >>7056967 >doubles down on logical fallacy The next debate you get into, just try a little harder and maybe you'll win.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:04:26 2015 No.7056984 >>7056904 Go back to /r9k/

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:04:30 2015 No.7056985 >>7056977 Good thing that isn't what I was doing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:04:36 2015 No.7056986 >>7056979 You forgot to specify that it's an informal logical fallacy which are only important to spergy pseuds

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:04:36 2015 No.7056987 >>7056976 No. You're expected to at least have a grasp of the basics of channing before you post. Fuck off and stop wasting my time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:05:04 2015 No.7056989 File: 429 KB, 1920x1077, 1427425705198.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7056964 every woman can find a man to be fuck her, and perhaps provide for her

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:05:27 2015 No.7056992 >implying any of the virgin spergelords on /lit/ know anything about female sexuality

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:05:38 2015 No.7056994 >>7056987 >Stop wasting my time You didn't have to reply. You're wasting your own time. Learn to take responsibility for your actions. It'll help you get over your victim complex

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:05:39 2015 No.7056995 >>7056986 Tripling down on a logical fallacy. Nice move. Maybe you'll win the next one that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:05:44 2015 No.7056996 >>7056913 He's right in a literal sense. Making people "equal" is a nonsense statement. All equality has to be based on a specific set of quantifiable traits of people, such as income.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:06:28 2015 No.7056998 >>7056979 So then you feel your sexuality is perceived as evil because of tumblrinas? I am sure if I surrounded myself with only idiots I might start thinking there are only idiots in the world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:06:39 2015 No.7056999 >>7056994 No, I don't have to reply, but I feel like calling you a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:07:15 2015 No.7057004 >>7056999 Well you sure showed me. Hope you're proud :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:08:08 2015 No.7057008 File: 311 KB, 1206x774, austin powers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7056865 Okay, that got me RANDY!

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:08:27 2015 No.7057010

>>7056943
This statement is very true. In fact if I see like an ugly fatty with dyed hair and a piercing not on her ears, I basically assume she is lesbian.

There are definitely many gay people who develop their gayness out of an inability to find straight partners

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:08:38 2015 No.7057011

>>7056998
No I think my sexuality is perceived as evil because of Jews. Read the thread again, moron. Why are you injecting tumblr into this? Fuck off.

>>7057004
Proud of defeating an idiot in an argument? Not really. If you were intelligent I'd be proud, but you're not, so it's kind of a wash. Still, eat shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:09:04 2015 No.7057014 >>7056955 the greeks, duh

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:09:09 2015 No.7057015 >>7056992 Honestly if you apply yourself in college in the slightest it's almost impossible not to have sex. Girls will literally brag about their partners in the past year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:09:41 2015 No.7057018 >>7056963 Hey look, a douche belittling a new social movement. When has that ever happened.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:10:00 2015 No.7057020 >>7057015 Then why do they keep lying about rape???

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:11:12 2015 No.7057024 >>7057014 also yaoi <3

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:11:38 2015 No.7057026

>>7057011
You haven't argued anything. You've called me a faggot, dumb and told me I'm not good enough at using 4chan.

Since I know I'm not dumb or a faggot, and have better things in life to get better at 'channing' you haven't even managed to hurt my feelings. Apply yourself.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:12:14 2015 No.7057028

>>7056985
Good. I don't really believe in inherent sexual characteristics (how most people mean it) but I refuse to accept Judith Butler, she's a hack and her "subversive" idea of going against the patriarchal punishment apparatus is already outdated.

>>7056989
Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:12:43 2015 No.7057030 >>7057026 Apply yourself to the nearest freeway after jumping off an overpass shitstain.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:13:04 2015 No.7057031

>>7057011

Because honestly the only time I have ever seen the phrase anti male shaming tactic has been coupled with images of tumblrinas talking about the constant rape they feel. Even then you are afraid of about 51% of the two tenths of a percent of the world's population. You are a man embrace your strength and stop falling for the spooks

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:13:08 2015 No.7057032 File: 640 KB, 650x866, tumblr_nos4ewT0zt1tjepeco5_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] visual proof what op has no clue that he's talking abt

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:13:46 2015 No.7057033

>>7056945
Well, some women are born with disfigured meat flaps and males with pathetic 4x3s. But then like a female expressing herself sexually is still more attractive than the manhood-lacking male doing the same. Then take the fact that a woman using some molded silicone for masturbatory purposes is seen as OK and all, but a man doing the same is generally unattractive and sexually worthless. The difference are clearly not equal, even in seeming equality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:13:49 2015 No.7057034 >>7057031 I'm not responsible for your lack of experience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:15:57 2015 No.7057041 >>7057032 The twink is feminine in appearance and presentation. This artist is simply stealing female sexuality and pasting it onto a male form.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:16:16 2015 No.7057043

>>7057030
I feel as if you're the type of person who just has to have the last word in an argument. You're probably also the type who'd consider not getting the last word in an argument when they get called out for it. In short, you're petty and very angry. Whatever is wrong in your life that's making you this confrontational on the internet I honestly hope it gets better, man.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:16:23 2015 No.7057044
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>>7056865
Because publicly voicing a concise opinion on female sexuality that is anything but flattering will result in monolithic social pressure on every male who comes near it from every woman who hears of it. Basically this is the natural result of letting women voice opinions without fear of reprisal, for better or worse.

Third worlders who apply the pimp hand can say whatever they want about women, again, for better or worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:16:26 2015 No.7057045 >>7057033 Boo hoo you don't get to buttfuck yourself on webcam and get as many viewers as a woman, nobody gives a fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:16:54 2015 No.7057046 >>7057033 I'd rather wathc a hot guy use a fleshlight than an overwight girl with meat curtains using a dildo

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:17:54 2015 No.7057050 >>7057045 yes you do if you're hot or a trap

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:19:33 2015 No.7057054

>>7057044
I say mean shit about female sexuality a lot and I've never been called out for it.

There are pathetic legbeard tiara-tippers who can never attract a decent man, so what, let them buy dumb shit on tumblr. They don't fucking matter. Most women are not at all like you think. Happy women don't bitch 24/7 on the internet about men.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:19:35 2015 No.7057055 >>7057041 They both looks like sexy men to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:20:40 2015 No.7057059 >>7057050 That's gay as fuck, ew

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:21:59 2015 No.7057065 >>7057059 You're only serving to further stigmatize men's sexuality with comments like this

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:22:01 2015 No.7057066

>>7057045
>nobody gives a fuck
Yeah right, everyone cares about their sexuality, and others, too, as evident by this thread.
>>7057046
But the hot guy has clearly got something wrong with him, else he'd be with actual people and not flaunting his pathetic self on camera. He's a sexual maniac, at the minimum, and not to be trusted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:23:04 2015 No.7057070 >>7057020 That's just the feminists, who consider the consensual drunken sex that many university girls are proud of as rape. It isn't most women themselves who are pushing for false rape claims and rape culture mythology, it's just feminists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:23:09 2015 No.7057071 >>7057066 >But the hot guy has clearly got something wrong with him, else he'd be with actual people and not flaunting his pathetic self on camera. hmm it's almost like what people say about girls who do the same

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:24:10 2015 No.7057076 >>7057070 I agree, but we still have to take feminists out of positions of power and kill them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:24:47 2015 No.7057077 >>7057065 You're making it worse by being a little faggot about it. So you like shit in your butt. Own it and move on. You're pissing me off by saying a bunch of stupid /r9k/ bullshit

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:25:24 2015 No.7057080 >>7057077 Or maybe you should just stop being a cunt

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:25:42 2015 No.7057083 >>7057054 Do you have any other anti male shaming tactic you would like to employ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:26:30 2015 No.7057088 >>7057043 Jerkwad heal thyself.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:26:31 2015 No.7057089

>>7057070
>It isn't most women themselves who are pushing for false rape claims and rape culture mythology, it's just feminists.

No, it's all women. It makes it easier for them to get away with cheating, and not be humiliated when they act like degenerates.

>I-I didn't want to suck 30 dicks on camera, I was raped!

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Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:26:55 2015 No.7057091

>>7057070
Yes drunk people can't have sex. So don't have sex with drunk people.

Do you really think false rape allegations are the norm? I'm against universities leading investigations, but there isn't an epidemic of it.

Just ease the fuck up. Hang out with some real women. FFS

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:27:38 2015 No.7057092 File: 34 KB, 467x419, 1388760845844.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057070 >consensual drunken sex >>7057089 >they act like degenerates.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:27:38 2015 No.7057093

>>7057054
>on the internet
I know women irl who were "uncomfortable with the portrayal of women," in Gone Girl and made a point of saying so. Imagine if that movie/book had generalized the wife's manipulativeness to a lesser degree to all women. It would be an irl shitstorm, not a tumblr tempest in a teapot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:27:39 2015 No.7057094 >>7057088 not him but for your own sake please stop replying

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:28:15 2015 No.7057095

>>7057065

Look this might be honest I have no clue but are mad at women because you are in the closet? Traps are breddy homo bro and no amount of feminine penises will change that.

>shaming tactic 851

Im serious my best bro went through something similar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:28:28 2015 No.7057096 >>7057080 You first >>7057083 If shaming tactics work on you, then you're in need of some definite self esteem foundations

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:28:59 2015 No.7057098 >>7057094 Eat shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:29:28 2015 No.7057101 >>7057091 >>7057092 >Yes drunk people can't have sex. rofl look at these turbo virgs

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:30:01 2015 No.7057103

>>7057070
>just feminists
The majority of people will tend to side with someone they identify with. The average woman is sympathetic to the campus anti-rape movement because she can more easily see herself in the shoes of the accuser rather than the accused and vice versa for men. Just because they aren't marching in the slutwalks doesn't mean they disapprove.

>"better safe than sorry"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:30:31 2015 No.7057105 >>7057091 I'll have you know misogyny mermaid once ruined a kids life. Women are garbo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:30:46 2015 No.7057106 >>7057015 Does having sex with a girl mean I understand her sexuality?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:30:54 2015 No.7057107 >be male >sexually submissive/feminine I hate this

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:31:01 2015 No.7057108 >>7057093 Why don't you do it? I'm not going to let you use "imagination" as a foundation for an argument about the way things are.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:32:56 2015 No.7057121

>>7057101
Drunk people can have sex, but there's a difference between having a beer and fucking vs. someone slipping you the dick after you're all but unconscious. You're going to say that women have a responsibility not to get to that state, but that's irrelevant because it doesn't justify someone sexually assaulting them. It's difficult for me to even bother typing this out because I know you're just going to maneuver around it since you already have it set in your mind that you want to take the side that is 'against' the woman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:33:18 2015 No.7057124 >>7057043 >you're the type of person who just has to have the last word in an argument. Ayyyy, this 4th grade tactic.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:33:44 2015 No.7057127

>>7057101
Of course I've had sex while drinking, I've done it on campus as well. I still do it. But the women I know aren't accusing me of rape.

Gee, maybe because most people aren't predator sociopaths? Don't project

>>7057105
I heard a woman once accused and infant of rape and so they burned it alive

Okay, so like, yeah, Emma Sulkowicz is pretty obviously a faker and that whole thing is bullshit. But that's not the norm. Seriously

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:33:57 2015 No.7057128

>>7057106

If you talk to them and try and understand what they want sex wise then yeah. Pump and dump won't help you actually have to work at it. Unless of course she likes it like that.

Top tip don't ask her if she enjoyed it afterwards they will lie if they don't, it should be self evident.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:35:06 2015 No.7057133 >>7057098 no u :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:35:11 2015 No.7057134 >>7057124 >Implying there aren't people on 4chan so spiteful that they'll fall for it

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:35:49 2015 No.7057135 >>7057121 >>7057127 >Drunk people can have sex >Of course I've had sex while drinking lmfao lookit at all this moving the goalposts

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:36:02 2015 No.7057136 >>7056884 underrated

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:36:21 2015 No.7057139 >>7057128 >don't ask her if she enjoyed it afterwards Why would I ask her that? I could give a shit tbh. If she wanted enjoyment she should have asked for a bull

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:36:33 2015 No.7057140

>>7057108
>not going to let you
Whatever. People of all sorts side with those they identify with, and women are more vocal about this sort of thing than men. The implications should be obvious but I suppose not. I've been piled on (exclusively by women) in class for being unsympathetic to the wife in The Road. How have you never observed this simple human behavior before?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:36:37 2015 No.7057141 >>7057127 >Of course I've had sex while drinking Only a virgin would think this is possible. Alcohol nukes testosterone production in men, making it impossible to get hard. I think there is a cool board you would enjoy >>>/r9k/

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:37:00 2015 No.7057143 >>7057121 >it doesn't justify someone sexually assaulting them Yes it does. Act like a monkey, and someone is going to feed you a banana. Dress like a clown, someone is going to honk your nose. Why are women too fucking stupid to understand this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:37:55 2015 No.7057146 the best sex drug is heroin

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:37:58 2015 No.7057147 >>7057143 It might make it more likely but it doesn't justify it. Do you see the entire world in black and white or just arguments about sexual assault?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:38:10 2015 No.7057148 >>7057133 No, motherfucker, YOU. CHOKE TO DEATH ON SHIT IN HELL.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:38:26 2015 No.7057150 >>7057139 It happens a lot apparently. >did you like it? >less than two minutes This kind of sexual insecurity and need for reassurance taxes anyone. Virgins of both sexes are the worst at it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:39:00 2015 No.7057153 >>7057141 >testosterone >having anything to do with the erectile process

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:39:02 2015 No.7057154 File: 897 KB, 787x1024, bull.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >women sexuality We all know what they want and deserve.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:39:40 2015 No.7057156 >>7057141 Not him but the colloquial term for that is "whiskey dick", and it doesn't happen every time, mister virgin. Very rarely, in fact.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:39:46 2015 No.7057157 >>7057153 >You replying >Having anything to do with the avoiding bait process

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:40:12 2015 No.7057160 >>7057148

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:40:49 2015 No.7057165 >>7057147 No, it justifies it. Frat boys who fuck passed out drunk sluts should get a free pass. They're performing a public service by teaching these dumb bitches that there are consequences to their behavior.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:41:39 2015 No.7057170 File: 22 KB, 480x600, 1405275150484.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057165

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:42:21 2015 No.7057176 >>7057160 lol you're the same guy since the beginning, aren't you?

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:42:57 2015 No.7057178

>>7057135
What? Look, the reason the rule is the way it is is because there are fucking stupid men that will have sex with a blacked out chick and shit. There are no goalposts. Unless you're psycho you know how sex and drinking works, the reason we can't define it explicitly is psychos like you will try to play Socrates after raping a girl.

Just ease the fuck off. Yes technically a woman can't consent when drunk, but it's rare that she's going to try to make a rape claim

>>7057141
Are you fucking retarded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:43:21 2015 No.7057183 >>7057170 It's an important life lesson. If those sluts try that kind of thing in the real world, they'll probably end up dead on the side of the highway. Fratbros are saving lives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:43:57 2015 No.7057186 >>7057176 Nope that's me, I stopped replying ~20 minutes ago when I wished the other guy well in life

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:44:10 2015 No.7057189 >>7057140 Don't take a fucking literature class and go against the grain then?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:44:35 2015 No.7057192 >>7057186 Right...

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:45:20 2015 No.7057195 >>7057176 Yeah, I'm Anon. Can't you read? It says right there next to the post number.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:46:07 2015 No.7057199 >>7057190 How many lives have you saved by teaching object lessons? >>7057195 So funhay

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:46:31 2015 No.7057202 >>7057189 Did it seem like I was asking for advice? It's an observation not a "wat do /lit/?". The wife isn't a particularly sympathetic character, since you apparently haven't read The Road. Her actions are human and believable but not noble.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:47:11 2015 No.7057205

>>7057192
Better prove that I didn't reply to this anonymous stranger on the internet. It's very important. Proof coming soon ;)
But honestly I stopped replying because I wasted so many years of my life being angry on 4chan, and I don't think it's right or good to promote that behavior in other people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:47:55 2015 No.7057211 Wait, are men ITT really claiming they can get actually get hard while intoxicated? Because all the men I've slept with couldn't, and this cute pre-med guy said it was pretty much impossible without something like viagra. Calling bullshit, boys.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:49:17 2015 No.7057216

>>7057202
I don't fucking care, yes, to a degree women are like the stereotypes, we all know that, literally everyone does, but stop being so fucking autistic about it and you won't have problems.

Literally what you think about the wife doesn't fucking matter. So don't voice your opinion if you don't want controversy. Or learn to accept it. DGAF it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:49:28 2015 No.7057217 >>7057205 >Let me state again why I'm not replying because I think it's such a waste of time... lol what a thumbdick

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:49:28 2015 No.7057218 >>7057211 I'd need to drink a hell of a lot not to be able to get hard. I've never had the problem personally.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:50:37 2015 No.7057225 >>7057140 That violation you in your lit class is horrible but they are allowed to disagree. But.. you u do realize that you are committing a tautology in that? Can you limit yourself to three? If you are logic man this should rudimentary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:50:57 2015 No.7057228 >>7057211 Haha how ugly are you? Yes if I'm fucking slammed I can't, but I usually don't get that drunk so I wouldn't know

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:52:35 2015 No.7057235 >>7057217 What I'm expressing is genuine sympathy and not some attempt to make myself looks good (useless on an anonymous board) or me being patronizing. I really hope your life gets better whether you want to believe me or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:52:53 2015 No.7057237 >>7057225 That you felt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:54:40 2015 No.7057242 >>7057235 Are you a Jewish mother? The amount of passive aggression dripping from your every post makes you seem like a total psycho. Go to the closest hospital and get yourself screened for BPD and mental retardation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:54:51 2015 No.7057243 >>7057211 I think you're just ugly. I get hard as a motherfucker when I'm drunk.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:56:12 2015 No.7057248 File: 712 KB, 500x500, ayyy_bong.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057242 this >>7057243 weed boners tho

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:58:15 2015 No.7057252 >>7057242 >passive aggression Is it really this hard to believe that someone on 4chan is being sincere?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 22:59:55 2015 No.7057259 >>7057252 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:03:36 2015 No.7057270 >>7057242 I think it's funny that anyone would accuse someone of being a Jewish mother and then psychologize them in the same sentence.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:09:12 2015 No.7057288

>>7057216
>>7057225
Wasn't even complaining about the disagreement. It's one of you who seems to be denying that women would produce social pressure against an unkind take on their sexuality, which is all I've been trying to say this whole time, and that anecdote is just an example of what I'm talking about, not a condemnation of women or a complaint about anyone in a class I took years ago.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:10:15 2015 No.7057295 >>7056955 and vicky england lots of fairy little homos catching everyones eyes at least thats what shakespeare would have us believe

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:12:18 2015 No.7057307

>>7057091

Yes they can. Having a drink doesn't suddenly turn you comatose or infantile. You either have to say that any consumption of alcohol in a certain time frame makes someone unable to consent, or you have to point to real incapacitaion like being physically unable to say no and walk away. What is the object limit you will find between that?, one that can be identified in any situation,

Besides, how can you call a man a rapist for having sex with a drunk girl when he is drunk himself? We could just as well call the girl a rapist in that case. Why is it that men are expected to be responsible for their intoxicated actions while women are not? Does not that not scream male superiority? That we have some special genetic superiority that makes us immune to incapacitation by alcohol, while women are weak little dainty things who fall a part after a few drinks ?

>Do you really think false rape allegations are the norm?

In my post I said that

>It isn't most women themselves who are pushing for false rape claims and rape culture mythology, it's just feminists.

So no, I don't think most women are making false allegations. Mind you any accusation that is not proven in a court of law has a 50% chance of being false. Feminist stats only include those cases where the woman admits that she lied under the "false claims" section, which radically reduces amount accounted for.
Every false case added to a feminist stat, where they count a drunken hook up between a man and women as the man raping her, counts as a false accusation( even if not legally pursued). But it isn't those woman who make the false claims, but rather the legbeard stat makers who needs to manufacture women's crises in order to stay relevant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:15:11 2015 No.7057324 File: 2.86 MB, 1000x538, boob2boob.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7056865 Because purity and innocence or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:15:25 2015 No.7057325 >>7057211 I just take 2 hours to Cum. I'm still hard though.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:16:30 2015 No.7057328

>>7057307
Fuck off. Everybody who's not a psycho already knows this. Yes, having a couple drinks before sex isn't fucking rape. It has to be in the definition because guys will try to push a girl too far

TL;DR if you think she's going to claim you raped her, don't have sex with her. Fucking hard innit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:17:20 2015 No.7057335 >>7057211 You should sleep with more men bby. I only fuck when I'm drunk tbh. I don't remember the last time I got hard sober.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:18:30 2015 No.7057342 >>7057328 Men aren't responsible for their thinking when it comes to their dick

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:18:33 2015 No.7057344 >>7057033 So, to answer the question "can you finitize the differences" that would be a "no". This is so incoherent and retarded. I mean, I get what you're saying, but it seems to have no relation to the other poster.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:20:46 2015 No.7057353 >>7057344 Lol I'm sure the amount of differences is finite

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:20:55 2015 No.7057354 >mfw people are legitimizing and rationalizing drunken sex it's rape you faggits, get over it

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:22:07 2015 No.7057359 >>7057353 In an 8 dollar vs 10 dollar fashion?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:23:30 2015 No.7057365 >>7057359 There are an infinite number of values between $8 and $10 though

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:23:35 2015 No.7057367

>>7057328

That's so hypocritical though, you are saying that the law should favor women having the advantage to legally claim rape in cases of consensual drunk sex, while men should just be mindfull not to get into a situation where they could be victimized by women taking advantage of the law.

How is this any different than telling women that they should just avoid getting into a situation where they could be too drunk to properly consent and get taken advantage of a law that says that rape can only be claimed in clear cases of an inability to physically consent ?

>TL;DR if you think she's going to claim you raped her, don't have sex with her. Fucking hard innit?

Is equivalent to

>TL;DR if you think he's going to try to have sex with you, and you may not be down , don't get drunk with him. Fucking hard innit?

In every way that matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:24:42 2015 No.7057373 >>7057365 No there's only 199, you can't split a cent

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:25:26 2015 No.7057374 >>7057270 I do to tbh

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:25:57 2015 No.7057377 >>7057373 Ever driven past a gas station in the US?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:26:31 2015 No.7057379 >>7057373 Sure you can, just switch into foreign currency worth less.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:27:27 2015 No.7057383

>>7057354

So two people can mutually rape each other?
Without either one being responsible for the rape.

If A and B are both drunk, neither one can consent to the sex, meaning A's raping B was not consented to by A- meaning A cannot be called a rapist, and yet has raped B. B has raped A, and yet B cannot consent to the rape and thus cannot be called a rapist and yet has raped A.

I know that feminists pride themselves on being all posture and no substance, but this is retard tier dribble.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:31:16 2015 No.7057392 >>7056920 Two differences can be equal. A dollar in change made of quarters and one of nickles have many differing properties but are equal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:35:46 2015 No.7057410 >>7057353 They clearly meant quantified in this particular instance. Care to quantify the differences between men and women my mongoloid friend?

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:36:24 2015 No.7057413

>>7057392

They aren't unqualifiedly equal though, they are equivalent in their monetary worth, but are unequal in other ways. Equality is just a matter of what properties you find valuable- if you take those qualities that humans in general share as socially important then you will lean towards egalitarianism and will value a few general and unspecific abstractions and make them your basis for social value. If value more diverse and specific qualities you will lean towards inegalitarianism because you see the differences as holding the social value. This is part of why statist and conformist countries always tend towards egalitarianism, you need to snuff out diversity and those individuals who would rise above mass totalitarian society by focusing on those lowest common denominator levels of human existence in which everyone is "equal".

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:39:12 2015 No.7057418 >>7057413 What is the value of men vs women in a vacuum? >>7057410 And thank you I was amused to find finitize was even a word. I was working my brain to think of that word

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:42:01 2015 No.7057430 >>7057383 who says they arent responsible?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:45:52 2015 No.7057442 >>7056865 because dichotomies are easier to think about than contiguous wholes, and because subjects demand objects.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:53:14 2015 No.7057476

>>7057418

Biologically we find that women develop the neural properties for empathy and social intelligence at an earlier age than men do, and develop it to a higher degree in general. Men on the other hand tend towards properties good for developing object manipulation, abstractions ,and the like. This leads to more "intellectual" genius, physical prowess, individuality, and ability to make hard decisions unaffected by emotions in men to a greater degree than women. Men are superior to women in this sense. On the other hand the conformism, social intelligence, and social tact that women develop more easily than men tends to ground functional societies that flourish based on the mutual care between members and their bonds. Therefore when society requires more of one kind of ability or tendency over the other men or women will take on a higher value than the other. One need not translate this into any sort of purely evaluative hierarchy though- evaluative language doesn't make sense without some sort of telos being referenced. There is no need to invoke any sort of artificial degree of equality either, one can find women valuable, worthy of diginity, and all that- without thinking that this all should come in the exact same way it does for men.

A problem comes up for people who deviate from the norms. Feminism came from women who were odd and talented in more masculine ways and hence wanted to work on that level. These days it has turned into making all women believe that they are these exceptional women, and resent people who try to do what is best for them, leading to social catastrophe- and often even misogyny in young men who grew up with dysfunctional mothers trying to live out a feminist fantasy that never fit who they really were.

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 23:57:25 2015 No.7057498

>>7057430

Because rape in this case is sex with a person who can't consent because they are drunk. But such a person who we would accuse of rape can't be responsible for the rape if they can't consent to the sex that counts as a rape in the first place, which is the case because they themselves are drunk. If you can claim that someone is responsible for something they cannot give consent to ( which you would have to do to deny this argument), then a woman who cannot consent to sex can still be responsible for the person having sex with her anyways even when she can't consent. So either way this claim falls apart on itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 00:46:30 2015 No.7057656 >>7056865 Because men have no need to rationalize their arousal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 00:47:11 2015 No.7057658 File: 311 KB, 1500x1265, 987825f356.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057476 >and ability to make hard decisions unaffected by emotions in men to a greater degree than women. lol

Anonymous Tue Sep 1 00:51:07 2015 No.7057669
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>>7056865
Because both are written from a male perspective? Have you seen the way women write about female sexuality? It usually involves blood, placentas, and some degree of unpleasantness. Men, being attracted to women, just idealize their sexuality into "Rainbows and spice" for them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 00:52:32 2015 No.7057673 File: 108 KB, 1280x1710, 1431932514056.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057658 indeed

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 00:53:33 2015 No.7057674 >>7057354 >>it's rape you faggits, get over it no it is rape only on the boy, never on the girl>>7057673

Anonymous Tue Sep 1 00:59:29 2015 No.7057697

>>7057673
You and I both get drunk. I decide to sucker punch you and take your wallet. I can't be held responsible for my actions.

I wish to elaborate on my position in relation to the 'rational male' argument. Not only is this stock argument untrue (judging from history), but it's also very convenient that you assign men to be the 'rational' ones; cold, calculating; unaffected by emotion. It just so happens that since by fluke of nature, men being the rational ones, it's men who decide what is best for the other half of the human race. After all, it's only logical.

My point is that it's a silly rationalization for what amounts to "I GET TO WRITE THE RULES!!!" If that's the way you want to play, at least don't try to sugarcoat it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 01:42:29 2015 No.7057820 >>7056882 You're actually what's wrong with the world. Burn in hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 01:43:37 2015 No.7057823 >>7056884 Trufax

Anonymous Tue Sep 1 01:53:54 2015 No.7057850

>>7057367
It amuses me that, in your unfailing collective stupidity, my high quality post (honestly, the most damning one in this thread) was overlooked in the span of 11 separate replies. My post completely upended the argument being made by this thread. It should have been the end of discussion, but you goons refused to read it. A pity... your loss, not mine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 02:09:58 2015 No.7057886 >>7056890 >sexual equality What does that even mean

>>	« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » Tue Sep 1 02:24:31 2015 No.7057911 File: 287 KB, 514x771, 1436992218206.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057886 It means being nice and fair regardless of ones sex. Thread, r9k, I recommend you read The Second Sex by De Beauvoir. It's a nice book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 02:26:57 2015 No.7057916 File: 315 KB, 1084x593, 1440625039675.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7057911 what a cute beary pink girl. Why is she so cute?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 02:48:34 2015 No.7057983 >>7056890 >how can you give nine-fingered men the same right to vote as ten-fingered men when they don't even hold a pencil the same way

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 02:57:14 2015 No.7058009 File: 25 KB, 592x238, 1426407716576.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 03:12:01 2015 No.7058049 >>7056865 I love you m8. I'd love you with my poison tipped spear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 03:19:19 2015 No.7058075 >>7056878 Gr8 b8 m8

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 03:52:09 2015 No.7058151 >>7056865 I suggest you watch some Wong Kar Wai or some Leos Carax. It's not so biased, OP/fag.

Anonymous Tue Sep 1 03:55:39 2015 No.7058159

>>7056875
> I'm so full of myself that when I post my careful crafted thoughts on an anonymous imageboard I get pissy when people don't give me the attention I so rightfully deserve.

Fucking faggot.

Nah, I'm just kidding. You actually had a good point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 04:00:09 2015 No.7058173 >>7057211 The vast majority of sex I've had was when I was drunk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 04:05:00 2015 No.7058186 >>7057911 Then that post I responded to makes no sense as there being differences between the sexes doesn't contradict "being nice and fair regardless of ones sex".

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 04:07:11 2015 No.7058192 >>7056865 Because women get pregnant and give kids.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 04:10:52 2015 No.7058199 Because they're cute and impotent. Can't even fuck each other up the ass, just rub their little bayonet wounds together and maybe stick a few little fingers inside.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 10:23:32 2015 No.7059104 What does kissing feel like? What do you do?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 10:30:17 2015 No.7059119 >>7059104 please respond

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 10:59:10 2015 No.7059205 >>7059119 smushing orifices together and making them move. feels good and tingly when in the proper mood and context and banal and ridiculous if not.

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