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>britain wants to secede from the EU
>scotland wants to secede from britain for political reasons
>london wants to secede too

where were you when theautist in pic related proved to be correct?

secession and exit politics are the future...

as well as uncontrolled capitalist accumulation and AIpocalypse

>> No.8205619

Scotland would be left on the cold if they left

EU nae gonna fund the free tuition and other shite

Scots ain't got much to offer aside from battered Mars bars and dykes

Spain already plans to veto their application

>> No.8205632

>>8205347
is that Ted Bundy

>> No.8205636

>>8205632
No, his name is Damian Lewis.

>> No.8205663

Land is just an inverse idealist. Some of these exits will happen but none will drastically rock the boat; capital will accumulate no more radically than it has; and no AI.

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8205688

>>8205663

>> No.8205756

>>8205347
he though Brexit wouldn't happen though
but yeah exit politics is the only way out of the globalist/nationalist dichotomy of the future
AI is developing pretty nicely
don't know why so many people think it isn't going to happen

>> No.8205798

>>8205619
>Spain already plans to veto their application
In exchange for Gibraltar?

>> No.8205804

>>8205619
Learn English before posting.

>> No.8205924

>>8205347

This century is Nick Land's.
We're seeing the Singaporization of the world.

Zizek foresaw it too, but he tried to avoid it by having millennial faggots not care about shit like gender pronouns, bathrooms for trannies and #RefugeesWelcome ( good luck, lol ).

I think Zizek is starting to realize it though, how much of an unsalvagable mess the left is: "Unfortunately, not the existing Left which is well-known for its breathtaking ability to never miss a chance to miss a chance."

>> No.8205931

>>8205924
>I think Zizek is starting to realize it though, how much of an unsalvagable mess the left is: "Unfortunately, not the existing Left which is well-known for its breathtaking ability to never miss a chance to miss a chance."

So he's becoming Trotsky and giving up on the Marxist narrative.

Cool.

>> No.8205938
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8205938

>>8205931

COME HOME, RIGHT MAN

>> No.8205957

>>8205804
Fuck off ya scrote bastard

>> No.8205965

>>8205957
Arghh fack off, ye cunt

>> No.8205966

>>8205924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ0UA2EwjJU

Zizek basically predicted that the kind of nationalist rhetorics perpetuated by the brexiters would inevitably pave the way for their success.

Although its interesting - the way the UK left is currently fractured into the new progressive SJWs, the traditional labour voters of the industrial north who see Europe as a corporate playground, and the anti-immigrant, nationalist populists, is a kind of triad parallel to the three right-wing groups Land schematises in the Dark Enlightenment - the techno-capitalists (IE. 'progressive' in a non-leftist sense), the traditional/religious conservatives, and again, the anti-immigrant nationalist populists.

It looks to me as though America's Trump revolt is a kind of right-wing reaction to the social politics of Obama, while brexit is a left-wing revolt that has been engineered and catalysed by the right-wing establishment.

>> No.8205982

>>8205632
BAZINGA

>> No.8206004
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>>8205966
nationalism is much more popular in continental Europe than the Anglosphere
in all honesty we're living in such a crazy time and it's going to be absolutely hilarious watching leftists having the rug pulled out from under them

>> No.8206007

>>8206004
the thing is the EU isn't even leftist

I don't know why so many college liberals are so pro-EU all of a sudden

>> No.8206010

>>8206007
the left has been fully coopted by neoliberals

>> No.8206011

>>8205619
Fuck off you self hating cunt.

>> No.8206018

>>8206007

Honestly, leftists seem to be championing George Soros his agenda now instead of bringing about anything truly communist.

And that's why I lost faith in them. I can't help but agree with Zizek. What a fucking joke.

>> No.8206021

>>8206018
Why are you speaking of Leftists as some sort of contingent group

>> No.8206024

for all my naughty neoractionary bois, if you want to read one of the worst things ever try this
https://archive.org/stream/the-silicon-ideology#page/n0/mode/1up

>> No.8206033

>>8206021

Because the vast majority aren't doing anything to stop the rise of the right.
All they do nowadays is actively alienate whites. And that's not because I'm some alt right dork shouting "cuck", that's because I'm a leftist myself who doesn't think "white male priv" and "cultural appropriation by whites" isn't a pressing issue.

>> No.8206037

>>8206033
> I'm a leftist myself who doesn't think "white male priv" and "cultural appropriation by whites" isn't a pressing issue.

Where did you come to believe that makes you different than the majority of the Left?

>> No.8206044

>>8206037

I'm sorry. I can't provide any statistics to show you how little me his viewpoints are different from the majority.

I bow my head before 4chan's scrutiny.

>> No.8206050

>>8206033
the cis white man is becoming a scapegoat for the regressive left like antisemitism for the nazis. Black lives matter was a neat idea in principle but it was appropriated for bullshit tribalism, inciting a race war in the act of describing one through their aggressive protests. The left needs to learn to live with its scars and move on (IE. do what it is supposed to do and progress)

>> No.8206059

>>8206037
University

>> No.8206061
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8206061

This recent fun history book actually the possibility of a brexit + subsequent split of the UK in a later chapter on the Kingdom of Eire.

So don't pretend as if Nick Land is some kind of prophet, it was in the air for a few years now

>> No.8206070

>>8206007
Because college liberals are like the swelling religious right of the 1950s American scene. Total retards who have ruined the history of their party and are only required to believe what they are told.

>> No.8206094

>>8206061
Land didn't actually predict Brexit though

>> No.8206115
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8206115

>>8206033
Have you (leftists) tried not hating the working class? I've heard the works pretty well at halting "the rise of the right".

>> No.8206129

>>8206033
leftists trying to halt the rise of the right is exactly what's fueling the rise of the right
which is why Exit is the best option

>> No.8206149

>>8206044
I'm just saying that I think you're taking loud Left Liberal circles that came out of American universities to represent the Left as a whole who I think find them just as ridiculous.

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8206203

>>8206115
It's hard not to hate them when they're so fucking retarded.

>> No.8206207

>>8206203
this is why you're facing total destruction

>> No.8206209

>>8206115
Why should I care about some retarded racists?

Honestly I hope the new labour will put more support towards social issues and the cities than those right wing imbeciles.

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8206211

>>8206203
>have some feminist or general SJW degree
>suddenly your opinion is worth more than those of construction workers etc.
Liberal baby """logic""" will never not make me laugh.

To all Brits ITT, thanks for starting the beginning of the end for the cesspool that is the EU.

>> No.8206216

>>8206007
>>8206010
>>8206018
>>8206033
>>8206050

Wrong board, gents.

>> No.8206218

Why are you retards talking about leftists when it's the far-right and far-left that wanted to get out to begin with

It's like leftist is the default 4chan boogeyman for everything

>> No.8206219

>>8206211
>some feminist or general SJW degree
great rhetorics, idiot.

>> No.8206221

>>8206211
>SJW degree

What does this even mean in the current climate of univerisities? Everything, or just what you personally dislike?

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>>8206219
You know I'm right, ledditor. Just because people with degrees vote to remain it doesn't mean anything significant.

>>8206221
Well for example: the people with degrees working some place directly related to the EU will obviously vote to remain because their livelihood depends on it.

>> No.8206228

>>8205798
In exchange for Catalonia understanding that Spain would never let it leave and join the EU since members can only be permitted in unanimously.

>> No.8206230

>>8206218
the left overwhelmingly voted in favour of remain

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8206238

>>8206224
>the people with degrees working some place directly related to the EU will obviously vote to remain because their livelihood depends on it.

Yet the same is not true of people in the same position without degrees. Showing that even those so-called 'SJW' degrees are useful in educating people. This ensures people are not complete fucking morons that can't even act in their own interest.

>> No.8206245

>>8206238
Those people, without degrees as you say and the image as well, want out because they hate the bureaucracy with the EU and the struggle having to deal with their regulations and laws and what have you.

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>>8206238

>even those so-called 'SJW' degrees are useful in educating people

>> No.8206260

>>8206238
most university students are thick as pig shit
we have to move away from the degree = smart idea because 110 IQ students should definitely not be listened to

>> No.8206264

>>8206245
They're fucking delusional. I hope England is utterly fucked economically by Brexit, they can lie in the grave they've dug.

>>8206260
>most university students are thick as pig shit
Yet still smarter than those that don't go.

>> No.8206270

>>8206264
>I hope England is utterly fucked economically by Brexit

They've already recovered, even the initial hit wasn't bad compared to Spain.

Countries are already lining up to get trade deals, German manufacturers in particular couldn't even wait hours after the referendum to publicly admit they've had plans for allowing Britain access to the single market from day 0.

>> No.8206271

For the majority of voters, the question was not 'should we leave the EU', but 'what do you think of this democratic experiment?'

There was never going to be a wholly conclusive answer: half went with the 'democratic' narrative and stuck by the idea of EU as the institution which brought peace and democracy to the continent, overpowering fascist parties or dangerous ideologies; the other half were convinced that this 'experiment' in the free movement of labour power and the single market had failed them, either due to immigration, underfunding public services, job prospects, austerity, unelected EU bureaucrats etc..

Problem is, no one (not even the tory cabinet) were entirely certain what Brexit would entail - so when Cameron gambled with not only the future of his party, but the fate of the country, because of an internal party dispute, what else could he do but step down?

Exit politics might be the future, but we are a nation wholly divided on this issue barring a 4% favour to brexit. It is unlikely to be a success unless the UK is further broken up (including London)

>> No.8206272

>>8206245

or because they hate immigrants => racism and xenophobia

I'm right-wing and voted to remain mostly because I understand the financial benefits we get from the EU and am not deluded the world can ever go back to when one could sustain a family of two children with a single factory worker wage.

Let's be honest, capitalism relies on heavy competition. Leaving aside the "evil bankers meme", rich people are educated, smart and hard-working so they profit from capitalism, thus rich getting richer. Poor people are stupid, lazy and actively mock anyone who tries to be better than them. Increased competition happens also at minimum wage jobs thus the poor getting poorer.

>> No.8206276

>>8206149
Because the mainstream left is comprised of centrist neoliberals who kowtow to those freaks. They superficially tout "diversity" initiatives because they're a convenient way of distracting them from actual social issues.

>> No.8206278

>>8206264
>I hope England is utterly fucked economically by Brexit, they can lie in the grave they've dug.
But they won't. Nothing at all will happen. They'll have Switzerland-tier status. The EU isn't Shengen. And even if it was, it doesn't matter too much.

Britain will do well. Besides: now more will leave and the EU won't exist in 2 years or so.

>> No.8206280

>>8206260

Frankly, the time has come for a 4th tier of education above universities; one which, as Nietzsche was putting it on his lectures 'Anti-Education', recognizes genius and fosters bildung, as well as wissenschaft and forschung, for their own sakes.

As we saw in a 2013 Harvard report on the decline of Humanities, for example,

>Research has demonstrated that university disciplines must do at least one of three things to draw the support of university administrators. To be successful, the discipline must either (i) be devoted to the study of money; or (ii) be capable of attracting serious research money; or (iii) demonstrably promise that graduates will make significant amounts of money.

We must reinstate that old virtue; l'art pour l'art.

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8206282

>uncontrolled capitalist accumulation

It never ceases to amuse how little people know about economics yet espouse their opinions on it at every occasion

>> No.8206285

>>8206280

like Master and PHD?

>> No.8206288

>>8206285

Those still take place within universities; they have a monopoly on them.

>> No.8206291

Brexit has fucking destroyed FTSE and the british economy

This is what happens when you go right wing instead of left wing

>> No.8206294

>>8206280
Humanities and social sciences decline is due to leftists, even they couldn't swallow their own shit any more and after years of almost daily gross misconduct by major players.

Software to automatically detect falsified data and plagiarism is becoming a massively profitable industry.

>> No.8206297

>>8206282
Most "economists" are mouth-breathing retards.

>> No.8206298

>>8206291

t. Breadlines

>> No.8206299

>>8206288

maybe master. in a PhD you mostly do individual research and no1 is telling you how to go about it or what to think

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8206300

>>8206291
>destroyed FTSE
Try again.

>> No.8206303

>>8206280

>We must reinstate that old virtue; l'art pour l'art

A man can dream.

>> No.8206304

>>8206270
We haven't even left the EU yet, plenty could happen before and after then. Countries are not 'lining up' to get trade deals. Major players like China expect it could be a decade before trade deals are signed with the UK.

>>8206278
I also hope for a Switzerland-type deal, the salt from little Englanders would be amazing as freedom of movement will be part of that deal.

>> No.8206305

>>8206297

wow. making fun of people smarter than you. gg

>> No.8206307

>>8206300
can't you see that it fucking went down?

That's a bad fucking thing you retard. Just look at all the newspapers, they're saying that the pound and FTSE have plummeted, by that drop, they evidently fucking have.

>> No.8206310

>>8206305
>>8206305

>2016
>Caring about that dismal science

>> No.8206315

What's wrong with nationalism, /lit/? Overall, it's pretty aesthetic. Particularly compared with something dull and pragmatic like globalism.

Why not live and die by your ideological furor? Isn't it more Romantic that way?

>> No.8206317

>>8206307
No? You realize that's a 24 hour chart right?

FTSE is trading higher than it was last week.

>> No.8206321

>>8206317
yeah, only for now. Once we leave it will fucking plummet you retard.

>> No.8206324

>>8206321

Whatever you say, Mystic Meg.

>> No.8206327

>>8206307
I can't tell if you are being serious. Please use sarcasm punctuation.

>> No.8206329

>>8206291
The markets are going to be volatile in this intermediary period of uncertainty until article 50 is actually initiated.

It'll start to gradually improve as further countries start declaring their interest in establishing trade deals with us once the dust settles.

and stop calling brexit 'right-wing', a huge amount of support in northern industrial counties (traditional labour strongholds) played a key factor in countering the cosmopolitan/progressive left voting to remain.

>> No.8206330

>>8206321
Of course It will, like all of those companies that said they would relocate to mainland Europe if Brexit happens, then released a statement yesterday saying the exact opposite and they would continue plans to invest in England.

>> No.8206333

>>8206304
>tfw brexiteers have voted for less white migration and more paki migration

fucks sake, why didn't we colonise italy, they have the hottest girls

>> No.8206346

>>8206321
efficient market hypothesis

>> No.8206354

>>8206346
that doesn't even make sense as a sentence. Fuck off to /pol/ and maybe try to learn English.

>> No.8206366

>>8206272
>or because they hate immigrants => racism and xenophobia
That too, but it's not like it's unfounded. Immigration is not an objective good.

>> No.8206374

>>8206272
the problem for me is that the immigrants we've blocked aren't even non-white

I'm glad we can turn down Krauts now though, I just hope we don't need to go on a new wave of paki bashing

>> No.8206375

>>8206333
I was so annoyed that the Remain camp couldn't articulate that EU migrants, unlike non-EU migrants (i.e. Pakis sucking at the government tit) are net contributors to the economy.

>> No.8206385

>>8206354
Do you not know how to google things?
What does /pol/ have to do with anything?

>> No.8206388

>>8206375
The whole remain campaign was shit

They needed to tell people the positives of remaining, and maybe pump in a bit of nationalism for good measure. All I saw was them saying we'll burn to death, the EU will isolate us, and that if you vote leave you're racist.

It's a shame Cameron didn't get a better deal though, a lot of this would have been averted if the EU was more lenient and didn't appear so distant and menacing to the average commoner

>> No.8206398

>>8206388
Cameron carried the whole remain campaign on his back it was disgusting, for every Cameron victory the Remain campaign organizers would place unknown musicians or tumblr bloggers on their debate teams.

>> No.8206399

>>8206388
Both campaigns were fucking terrible and the whole country should be fucking ashamed. One side was based on hysterical fear-mongering and the other based on anti-intellectualism and lies.

>> No.8206400

>>8206385
>hurr I'll just string together meaningless bullshit and expect the other person to understand

This is literally how you fucking sound. You right wingers need to accept brexit has fucked the UK's economy.

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>>8206400
>You right wingers need to accept brexit has fucked the UK's economy.
Calm down Samantha.

>> No.8206412

>>8206354
>>8206400
Not the other poster, but the efficient market hypothesis is a well-documented and throughly researched investment theory which you're more than welcome to do even a little bit of research in.

>> No.8206413

Brexit was more about destroying the EU than liberating Britain tbqh

>> No.8206414

>>8206398
I'm gonna miss Cool Cameron; hopefully his successor will be up to the job.

I hope Labour will have a massive shakeup as well, I'm not leftist (in UK terms), but it's a shame how Labour are still in the middle of an identity crisis.

>>8206399
I suppose Politics has always been dodgy when it comes to persuading people; at least no politicians have been thrown into the River Thames.

>> No.8206415

>>8206400
I am not a right winger and the UK's economy certainly isn't fucked. Nobody credible thinks the economy will be fucked and the markets reflect that.
Efficient market hypotheses.

>> No.8206421

>>8206414
>hopefully his successor will be up to the job
Hopefully it'll be Boris, his ability to switch from channelling Atkinson to Churchill at the drop of a hat was entertaining as fuck.

>> No.8206426

>>8206421
I do like him, but can he unite the brexiters and remainers?

Can he pacify the whining voice of ageist teenagers?

>> No.8206427
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8206427

my chief problem with Brexit is that it hasn't proposed an alternative to EU integrated Britain
they didn't even disagree with EU policy
would love it if they were adamantly pro-Putin and pro-Assad
imagine a Brexit/Putin/Trump alliance, almost makes me reconsider my support for Hillary

>> No.8206448

>>8206427
Why do you support Clinton in the first place?

>> No.8206459

>>8206448
vroom vroom!!

>> No.8206465

>>8206459
do you drive on the left or right side of the road?

>> No.8206469

>>8205663
Uhhhhhhhhhhhh I don't think you realize the shit storm this has started

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8206472

>>8206333
>Italy
>hottest girls
Get the fuck out, not even close even if you fully shaved their bodies

>> No.8206476

>>8206218
people are talking about the cosmopolitan liberal left that only really cares about sociocultural issues, and has no real clue about socioeconomical or geopolitical issues other than some vague ideas about the welfare state and "putin hates gays therefore bad"

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8206481

>>8206465
right side all the way baby

>> No.8206485

>>8206481
Can you explain what Land wants from accelerationism? Does he believe a Clinton presidency will lead to faster Exit opportunities? Or does he want a collapse and reboot? Or just the destruction of the human race?

>> No.8206493

>>8206472
I should have said the Mediterranean tbqh

when I went to Greece literally every (native) girl I saw was hot

>> No.8206508

>>8206271
>Exit politics might be the future, but we are a nation wholly divided on this issue barring a 4% favour to brexit. It is unlikely to be a success unless the UK is further broken up (including London)
that was my point when I made the thread.
I made it half-jokingly, but I had quite the chuckle after seeing the mayor of London talking of London secession.
The entire thing about Land being right has a lot more to do with the idea that those two concepts, secession and exit, are the only meaningful political actions in our current world. I feel like the coming anarchy within the EU will make this ever more clear.
Putting it simply:
(1)The EU cannot reform and cannot offer a significant response to its critics, instead doubling down on its previous mindset, doubling down on the TINA (there is no alternative) and doubling down on the derision of anyone critical and the fear factor (as it was obvious before, during and after the referendum)
(2)Therefore the only option left is Exit, and if possible, Secession

That he predicted Brexit or not, is irrelevant. The political mindset that Land and the Nrx defended seems to become more prevalent in the future
This applies to Brexit, Londonexit, Scotexit, Irelexit or whatever other exit you want. Everyone leaving due to common political identities. London is effectively a global city that thrives under the status quo, therefore it will rather leave and join the large centralized trade block of the EU.
Scotland overwhelmingly supports liberal politics and doesnt identifies itslef at all with the rest of a more conservative Great Britain therefore leaves, etc, etc...

>> No.8206509

>>8206485
Clinton will continue to create a dissident right that could bubble over into serious secessionist sentiment
ultimately the US will be destroyed, and a Clinton presidency is the quickest way to do that

>> No.8206511

Literature

>> No.8206514

>>8206282
thats not exactly what Land talks about.
I was memeing mate

>> No.8206518

>>8206511
we're discussing the writings of Nick Land
this is a civil and self contained thread, don't really see the problem

>> No.8206519

>>8206511
Fuck off newfag, /lit/ has always been the board for philosophy.

>> No.8206520

>>8206291
>Brexit has fucking destroyed FTSE
>down more or less 2%
>its still green week-to-date

I love/hate seeing supposedly "free-thinkers" eating any shit the media peddles
Bernays was so incredibly right, it amazes me everytime

>> No.8206528

>>8206315
I find this new brand of nationalism oftentimes a lot more pragmatic than the "peace and love" "we're all one race, the human race" "europe should be united and stronk, therefore EU" brand of liberal globalism
then again, they're both shit

>> No.8206534

Is Nick Land's philosophy is all correct, is there any chance for the survival of the human species or is succession by self-automated capital inevitable?

>> No.8206548

>>8206534
it's hard to say, the mechanisms that would enable post-humanism are in place (CRISPR and AI are coming along nicely) but it depends how the technology is distributed and used
that being said, we're mainly talking about his political philosophy

>> No.8206573

>>8206548
>AI
>coming along nicely
Progress is glacial, It isn't coming along nicely at all, we're pretty close to giving up on it entirely.

>> No.8206574
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>> No.8206588

>>8206574
he's doing a seminar right now
http://thenewcentre.org/seminars/#outer-edges-21st-century-spatial-metapolitics
why didn't you attend /lit/?

>> No.8206602

>>8206588
Where is this? I wish I could meet Nick Land at least one before he dies, everyone who meets him says it changed their life for some reason.

>> No.8206608

>>8206534
his project is in part is something like changing the top-down organisation of networks which consolidate power/wealth within centralised loci.

Part of the issue is that bodies also, to a certain extent, tend towards this dynamic - groups can come to define themselves in purely biological terms and empower/isolate themselves via the identity politics such a definition would entail. So if the body politic is to be dismantled in favour of self-automated capital, then politically correct notions of human identity will have to be thrown out the window as well

>> No.8206609

>>8206588
I'm poor :(

>> No.8206610

>>8206602
its made online via google hangouts if I'm not mistaken

>> No.8206611

>>8206608
I guess this is why he puts his nose up at the Alt-Right.

>> No.8206613

>>8206602
>All events take place online via Google+ Hangouts
if you were ever travelling to Shanghai, you could probably just email him and he'd meet up, pretty sure he just sits around reading and writing all day while doing the odd lecture and horror e-book

>> No.8206616

>>8206613
Yeah, I was really surprised to find out he has a family (and friends too!)

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>>8206616
>Nick Land will never be your dad
>you'll never hear his dorky laugh as he looks at pictures of dead Venezuelans and browses /pol/

>> No.8206634

>>8206611
although he talks a lot about HBD, its hard to say where he stands in regards to it. He doesn't condone the tribalism and inbreeding of white 'cracker' society, but he does see the value of its identity politics, being able to instigate its own exit from an America increasingly at odds with its values– just look at the way Texas has been inspired to try for its own independence.

>> No.8206651

>>8206634
If you read his Dark Enlightenment essay it's obvious that he believes in the HBD stuff 100% but thinks the differences between races will seem like nothing compared to the differences that will arise in the near future (according to him) between genetically modified humans and non-genetically modified and is therefore a less pressing an issue.

>> No.8206684

>>8206634
he follows HBD, and honestly there is no objective reason not to.
He simply separates the acknowledgment of that reality from any political or social supremacist ideology, but at the same time does see value in all identity politics within the concept of Exit and Secession (like >>8206634 said) but this goes equally valid to White Pride as well as Black Lives Matter.
This is similar to what Moldbug defends in his hilarious reply to the people who wanted to ban him from going to that programmers conference because they deemed him racist.

>> No.8206719

>>8206374
>glad we turn down krauts now
>literally 10% of your university students
Yeah, killing off academia is always a great idea.

>> No.8206734

>>8206264
>Yet still smarter than those that don't go.
Not necessarily. It is largely speaking a memetic waste of time and money for the vast, vast majority of people.

>> No.8206764

>>8206280
>Anti-Education
Read that a while back and was shocked how much it resonated with me. About two years ago at my univeristy we almost had a strike on the very issue you are talking about. The media span it as lazy teachers want more money, instead of Profs want control over what they research. Even tho the Profs, union and University had already agreed on salary long before talks of a strike had taken place.

>> No.8206780

>>8206528
>they're both shit
nationalism is pragmatic only in the sense that it tries to confront material problems rather than abstract questions of human identity. You're right though, they're both retarded mostly because they whitewash the issues at hand - nationalism tries to exclude 'blackness' and strives for racial purity, but is wholly unsustainable without the free movement of labour power; but on the other hand, the idealism of a singular human identity basically boils down to a kind of racial gentrification – everyone is welcome to mingle, but only if they conform to the same standard of politically correct whiteness.

>> No.8206813

>>8206780
>nationalism tries to exclude 'blackness' and strives for racial purity
That's white nationalism in particular. Nationalism as a political theory would view the world as a many interacting nations, be them european, black or whatever. A nation seeks uniformity only within itself, it does not necessary strive to purge other nations. That would be nazism.
>is wholly unsustainable without the free movement of labour power
Sounds like bullshit. Surely it's generally better for the economy to have cheap labour force from the third world, but the opposite is hardly unsustainable.