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I hate him so much. All he writes is cornball anachronistic Looney Toons humor wrapped up in pretension. Why on God's name do people shill him so hard?

>> No.8601303

this desu

>> No.8601310

Lol you dont get it, it's too deep for you.

>> No.8601315

Which of his books have you read?

>> No.8601933

stop being a tryhard bitter faggot

The Looney Tunes is awesome

>> No.8601959

>>8601185
>Describing writers as "cornball," like they're supposed to be cool and fashionable agents of teenage wish-fulfillment
This is your brain on hip hop. If you listen to hip hop regularly you WILL become a less intelligent person, and your opinions WILL devolve into idiotic buzzwords you read on Twitter

>> No.8602228

>>8601185
Who is this desu

>> No.8602229

>>8602228
David Thomas Joyce

>> No.8602233

>>8602229
Literally who? Tbh

>> No.8602237
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Don't worry, I have the writer who is just for you.

>> No.8602241
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>>8602233
le dubsman

>> No.8602268

>>8601959
>There is no high brow hip hop
>Hasn't heard alternative formally experimental hip hop

>> No.8602473

We got a grand-dad here. How dare you. Pynchons my fav writer 4 sure.

>> No.8602479

>>8602268

high/low is bullshit, but certain genres and forms are also bullshit.

>> No.8602526

>>8602229
>Thomas
it's literally David Ruggles Joyce

>> No.8602530

>>8601185
>Why on God's name do people shill him so hard?

>All he writes is cornball anachronistic Looney Toons humor wrapped up in pretension.

>> No.8602531

>>8601310
>>8601959
these are the guys that think Animal Collective is deep

>> No.8602616

>>8601185

Gravity's Rainbow is like one big trip from ridicule to genuine emotion and back again.

The jump from chasing pavlovian dogs to having a genuine relationship during wartime, when you never know if tomorrow one of you will not be there is one of the most powerful jumps in literature.

>> No.8602637

>>8601185
>cornball anachronistic Looney Toons humor
>pretension
pick one

>> No.8602640

>>8602233
Are the word filters gone? desu senpai

Also, the other posters are just memeing. Pic is of James Foster "George Berrycone" Pinecone.

>> No.8602680

>>8602531
what does that have to do with anything? animal collective are great by the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvnGlY41cmE

>> No.8602687

I think The Crying of Lot 49 is just an amazing masterpiece in several respects: prose, tone, how it captures something that is rapidly becoming universal, a "postmodern condition" where there's no distinction between super low culture and very high culture anymore due to how much shit like television and radio etc. has infiltrated our lives, also the feeling of a lack of power and the desire for totalizing conspiracy theories desired by the average citizen (Everyman/woman/schlemihl, Oedipa/Oedipus trying to solve the inscrutable riddle of the Sphinx).

The tone itself is out of this world, someone on /lit/ a long time ago described it as a book that's the greatest in creating a certain tone or atmosphere, and that stuck with me. Oedipa's whole story seems to represent this sinking sense of doom that's gradually becoming that of every modern US citizen. Who shot JFK, did 9/11, who allows the NSA to watch us? Trystero, the Pynchon reader comes to feel.

Finally, the prose itself is damn and undeniably good beyond everything else, the book is too heavy to be read, like Updike's works, for the sheer pleasure of the prose itself, you find yourself getting drawn into the story beyond just enjoying the prose, but the prose is nonetheless some of the greatest of the 20th century. What a brief, brilliant work of 20th century literature.

>"The Saint whose water can light lamps, the clairvoyant whose lapse in recall is the breath of God, the true paranoid for whom all is organized in spheres joyful or threatening about the central pulse of himself, the dreamer whose puns probe ancient fetid shafts and tunnels of truth all act in the same special relevance to the word, or whatever it is the word is there, buffering, to protect us from. The act of metaphor then was a thrust at truth and a lie, depending where you were: inside, safe or outside, lost."

A popular criticism is that it's turgid, overinvolved; well, might as well call Shakespeare turgid, Proust turgid. Sorry to the reader with the undeveloped attention span. And this is just about CL49, not Gravity's Rainbow and Mason & Dixon, both of which I've read and which were great, V. I read about 200 pages of and hated, about the same with Against the Day (I agree with the OP's assessment for those books), Inherent Vice I tentatively read the first few pages of and quickly came to the same conclusion, so I now don't find it worth it even trying his more minor works--- but his great ones, damn! Try again, OP, and remember Pynchon's a very uneven author, I wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly came out with another work of genius before he kicks the bucket.

>> No.8602688

>>8601185
why does no one praise the genius of the crying of lot 49 and instead goes for the densest piece of feces committed to paper since joyce?

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>>8602687
>>8602688
>exact same post time for both
!

>> No.8602804

>>8602233
How the fuck did you do that
Tbh???
also checked

>> No.8602805

can I get an encore do ya one more Tbh

>> No.8602813

>>8602531
they are tho