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Negative Goodreads review thread?
This is from Le Morte Darthur.

>> No.9623856

Bump

>> No.9623864
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Conrad BTFO

>> No.9624709

>>9623864
metaphor ABOUT the darkness?

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>>9623839
>I've never lived outside of a major city, the review
Winesburg, Ohio.

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>> No.9624769 [DELETED] 

WHAT IS WRONG WITH WOMEN?

>> No.9624776

>>9624764
Jesus christ.

>This one thing I learned in my community college lit class applies to everything!
>What do you mean I'm missing the entire point?

>> No.9624782

>>9623864
DFW is rotating in his grave

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>>9624776
Maybe this one's better

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Some watchmojo video

>> No.9624836

>>9624794
>Heavy hand of the author
>his sarcastic style of writing
That's...his trademark writing style though. This one wasn't as bad as the other one, but the reviewer still annoyingly misses the entire point of the book she just read. I'm not sure where this notion that everything in fiction needs to be completely believable came from. Sometimes it's more important for something that happens to aptly convey a certain message or theme than to be completely believable. If we wanted to read a completely believable story about an orphan, then it would probably be a rather boring book where the main character either stays in his orphanage or starves to death.

>> No.9624851

>>9623839

>patriarchal, Christianity biased interpretations of Arthurian myth

Is the implication that a feminist non-Christian interpretation of the Arthurian myth existed before Le Morte d'Arthur?

>> No.9624881

>>9624851
>Is the implication that a feminist non-Christian interpretation of the Arthurian myth existed before Le Morte d'Arthur?

Yes, how about you maybe use your brain and consider ACTUAL queen Arthur? slaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy

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LOL

>> No.9624922

>>9624911
Connor is our guy

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I love when they write an entire paragraph about how smart they are and how many degrees they have. It can never be that they are just not intelligent enough to understand and appreciate what they read.

>> No.9624951

>>9624836
>I'm not sure where this notion that everything in fiction needs to be completely believable came from.
Escapism. If you somehow published a book about the events of 9/11 before that date, nobody would believe you.

Fiction has to make sense, whereas reality is free of such burden.

>> No.9624960

>>9624951
In other words, through fiction we can flee into worlds that make sense.

An escape from nonsense.

>> No.9624968

>>9624930
>I need an audio book to understand

>> No.9624976

>>9624930
>complaining about having to re-read a book to understand it

You would have thought that someone so educated would realize that books actually require study and you're not going to 'get' everything with one or even two readings.

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>> No.9625313

>>9624997
I love when people misuse the word 'pretentious'. I love it even more when brainlets can't parse a text, it keeps the divide clear and helps me avoid discussing things with people who, in a very literal sense, can't understand them.

>> No.9625388

>>9624764
>having to explain what he meant by the italics

>> No.9627051

>>9624997
That's a great review though

>> No.9627208

>>9624881
>ACTUAL queen Arthur?
go on...

>> No.9627231

>Christianity biased interpretations of Arthurian myth
Lolwut

>> No.9627265

Too long to post in an image, somebody who clearly considers himself king of science-fiction and fantasy spends 10 000 words complaining about how nothing happens in Book of the New Sun. And for bonus points he quite halfway through his first reading. This if the first review that comes up if you look for Shadow & Claw: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/6736950?book_show_action=true&from_review_page=1

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>> No.9627281

>>9624911
/outguy/

>> No.9627284

>>9625313
he didnt misuse it at all though, so maybe you're the brainlet

i agree with >>9627051

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>>9627267

>58 likes

>> No.9627288

>>9627267
At leasf hobbes got to see tiddies

>> No.9627323

>>9627284
Implying that there isn't any depth is misuse. I doubt you've read it. There's not a single concrete criticism in that entire review, which makes the use of the word pretentious a bit too ironic, even by postmodern standards.

>> No.9627325

>>9627323
i know for a fact you havent read it.

>> No.9627901

>>9627325
Okay, let's try this. What kind of bike is rented?

>> No.9627961

>>9627284
>he didnt misuse it at all
How can text possibly be pretentious? What does the text pretend to be?

>> No.9627984

>>9627961
Don't bother. There's like 3 people here that have actually read it, and he's not one of them. Mcelroy uses more styles than anyone I can think of that's not Joyce, so saying that the text is pretending to have depth or erudition is absolutely ridiculous.

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>>9627208
anime bullshit, but its pretty decent.

>> No.9628029

>>9624930
>sound and the fury
>difficult
This meme needs to end.

>> No.9628033

>>9624794
>What the Dickens?!
I bet this reviewer finds The Big Bang Theory funny.

>> No.9628038

>>9624911
Jerusalem is great. Connor is a pleb

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https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/1530857
>mfw the comments

>> No.9628199

>>9628038
go to bed alan

>> No.9628731

>>9624911
>>9628038
he's right
>>>/co/
>>>/v/

>> No.9628751

>>9627267
>finds arguments worthless
>instead of wishing they could give them their argument they want to assault and flash them

>> No.9630036

>>9627267

This makes me want to read Hobbes.

>> No.9630305

>>9624764
You can always spot someone out of their depth when they assign value to preferences. Everyone who isn't insecure in their intelligence understands context is key to appreciation, and what Oliver Twist meant to its immediate readers is why you read it.
I can't see anyone properly identifying with any book written before the 1920's, and people younger than myself perhaps the '50's are more apt.

>> No.9631293

>>9630305
True. I'll admit that there are certain works which many people consider to be canonical that I either find too difficult, or unenjoyable.

This could lead me to two different conclusions:
>Everyone who claims to enjoy the work is wrong, and/or lying, or
>Literature is diverse, and tastes are subjective, so what appeals to one reader may repel another.

It takes a deeply self-involved worldview to leap to the first conclusion. Of course, a decent chunk of /lit/ does so on a regular basis with posts declaring
>such and such work is a meme

>> No.9631298

>>9630305
I'd disagree with the point about identification though. While social values change over the years, it's still possible to identify with characters or situations in fiction from long ago.

For example, despite being over-the-top in terms of characterisation, and depicting an era very different from our own, 'Babbitt' by Sinclair Lewis (1922) is very relatable - it depicts conformity, lack of imagination, and the malaise of the middle classes better than any contemporary novel I've read.

>> No.9631562

>>9628038
>I think this is an argument
>>9628731
>huehue comics huehue

>> No.9631564

>>9631562
>>9628199 the start of >>9631562 was meant to be directed at you

>> No.9631577

I fucking loathe GoodReads. I've seen people give books a shit score... because the main character is unsympathetic.

HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU CUNT. He's the scion of a noble family in a feudal, slave-driven society. Of course he's a fucking bastard. Everyone around him are bastards. Even the slaves are bastards. The fact that people are bastards is kind of, you know, THE POINT.

I swear, the world is full of people who couldn't understand basic texts if you explained it slowly to them, with pictures.

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>>9631577
Normalfags have stupid taste. They think in terms of : "would I like this person/this situation in reality" and not in terms of novel or characters.
And they have the attention span of a crack-consuming grasshoper too. I hear something like "I got bored reading Swan's way, lol he couldn't sleep, who cares xDDD" so often.

>> No.9631700

>>9631697
God, why are people allowed to embed pictures in their reviews? It is complete cancer every single time.

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>>9628157
holy kek

>1. I don't know if I can respect the opinion of someone's book review when they don't even know that books are never put in quotes. 2. Google "The Hero's Journey." This will explain situations why the uneducated always think that authors rip off other authors by making "more versions of Gandalf," as you imagine. The "Gandalf character" is a pivotal part of all epic tales (not epic like "cool"--epic, as in a literary epic, such as Star Wars, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, the Bible, most religious myths in general, the Odyssey, etc.). The "Gandalf character" is what is know as the "Father figure" and/or the "Magical Guide." It's a common pattern for epics, and it's why Harry Potter is so beloved. It follows a pattern in which humans have always been creating mythos, from the Epic of Gilgamesh and on. Study literature and the Monomyth and see how the phenomenon of Collective Consciousness is a major reason why some series/books rise to the top, and others are forgotten. #igotmydegreeinthislol

>> No.9631728

>>9631700
Because >le witty snarky gif reaction xDDD.
Don't you love the 2010s Anon?

>> No.9632044

>>9627992
F/SN is patrician.

>> No.9632091

>>9632044
Yes, your porn game is very high-brow.

>> No.9632110

>>9627961
>pretendtious

really?

>> No.9632412

The main problem with these reviews is that these people didn't like the books and so want to write a bad review. Justifications for their dislike are secondary to gving the book a bad review.

>> No.9632437

>>9631697
>attention span of a crack-consuming grasshopper
That's the part that really annoys me. I hate seeing stuff like: "Dubliners was so boring, omg! Nothing ever happened in any of the stories!! I found no reason to care about the characters because they never did anything. I now know that Joyce is just a bunch of pretentious garbage that old white male college professors assign to make themselves look smart and to torture us." This always seems to be the main reasoning behind every negative review on classics.

>> No.9632488

>>9624764
I also hate Oliver Twist because I came down with food poisoning while watching a play of it when I was little

>> No.9632552

>>9632044
>Tosaka's anus

>> No.9632572
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>> No.9632613

>>9632572
i bet these plebs don't even know conrad was russian. desu, i didn't know until nabokov mentioned it

>> No.9632626

>>9632572
>the very humanity of black people is called into question

when will this meme end? The point of HoD is exactly the opposite, the blacks are portrayed as far more human than the colonizers and they aren't referred to as inherently inferior (something that you would be hard pressed to find in any book of the time). Do these people even fucking read the books?

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>>9624930
>you cant skim
>skim
>SKIM

Why is she complaining that she didn't know what was going on if she was skimming through the whole fucking thing?

People think reading faster makes them smart, or something? What the fuck?

>> No.9632815

>>9632572
>anti-colonial book is racist

How dense are these people?

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>>9632572
>racist

>> No.9633808

>>9624911
Connor is from /lit/ kek

>> No.9633812

>>9624761
>they don't have a life expect for their story
>they don't do anything expect for what they do in their stories

It's like he didn't understand he was reading a collection of short stories.

Also, there's nothing wrong with the setting.
It's a sleepy, pastoral, generic town in Ohio, a microcosm from 100 years ago

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There's just too many men in A Canticle for Leibowitz. All the other reviews seem to be atheists whining about how Christian the book is.

>> No.9633890

>>9632488
I don't know why this made me laugh as hard as it did. Not that you got food poisoning, but probably a combination of the fact that you bear a grudge on Oliver Twist for it and you felt comfortable sharing that fact here.

>> No.9633911

>>9628157
>Clearly you're just a hater. A hater with no life, no imagination, no childhood, and you should be ashamed of yourself that you are one of the only people in the whole gods damned world who is dumb enough to hate on Harry Potter. If you don't like Harry Potter, then what the hell do you like? Oh ya that's right, you're from the 17th centre so you're a big Shakespeare fan. Whoops, forgot to mention, it's the 21st centry by the way, and Hamlet has absolutely nothing to do with Harry Potter. One Harry Potter is at least a trillion times better than all of Shakespeare's plays combined.
>And I just though you should know, the world is round.

> I loved the first Harry Potter book. It's my second favorite book from the Harry Potter series (the third one is my first favorite) and I didn't really understood this review, but I have had understood some parts. I mean not everyone has to like Harry Potter, but that doesn't mean you should say bad things about right? Or insulting the author is really just plain rude. And 35 million people bought the book and it had been translated into so many different languages. I mean really, come on how can these readers have been wrong? And the rating for this book is really good.

>my review to your review:
the first sentence killed me lmao

>> No.9633924

>>9633890

Food poisoning is no joke, that shit will scar you for life. I got it from eating pork chops 15 years ago and to this day I still can't eat them.

>> No.9633928

>>9633911
Bonus Dean-posting
>35 million people clearly have deplorable taste, madam. Are you arguing that just because 35 million people bought the book then it merits our attention !? I imagine that more than 35 million pornographic novels have been sold although surely you must agree that by this fact alone the genre does not merit our reading. And it is such a pity that young ladies such as yourself don't read more meritorious novels such as those written by Jane Austen and Charlotte Bronte .

>> No.9633951

>>9624997
Not a bad review tho. Seems fair enough.

>> No.9634691

>>9624761

you take back what u said about our boy anderson or god help me

>> No.9634705

>>9632815

You can oppose the contemporary form of exploitation and colonisation yet still have some racist views. Conrad wasn't as racist or shit as the Belgian corporations he criticises in the book but he wasn't perfect either.

>> No.9634752

>>9632626
Achebe went full retard on that essay, but everybody quotes it in modern """academia""" just because it's Achebe.

You can tell very quickly when a reviewer or commenter majored in English but was a total narrowminded pleb the whole way through, because they always quote the same entry-level texts as if they were the unshakeable word of God: this one, Said's Orientalism, Campbell's Hero of a Thousand Masks, Todorov's Intro to Fantastic Literature, and Eagleton's Intro to Literary Theory (to name a few).

>> No.9634756

>>9633924
I got food poisoning from fish sticks at 8.
I got over my fears at 20 to find I actually like fish.

>> No.9634767

>>9624930
>majored in english
>thinks that is an intellectual accomplishment

>> No.9634777

>>9634691
Glad to see another person here that likes
Anderson. He is very underappreciated on this board.

>> No.9634781

Why is Goodreads so full of "college educated" idiots?

>> No.9634797

>>9634767
This.
STEM graduates are far more humble on average, at least from what I've seen.

>> No.9634847

Why does Goodreads not allow you to find friends based on taste compatibility? Literally all of my Goodreads friends are from 4chan threads and the only way I can find other people is if they reviewed something.

>> No.9634857

>>9634781
Because college educated folks love to showcase how intelligent they are because of being college educated. What better place than Goodreads where you can post pseudy reviews on books you didn't understand at all with like-minded individuals.

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>> No.9635195

>>9635159

>Mr. Lee is a highly educated person who only uses Chinese pidgin English because he isn't allowed to break racist societal norms

it really triggers me when SJWs don't appreciate SJW literature

>> No.9635200

>>9635159
howling

>> No.9635214

>>9634705
He was someone who lived in a different time with different social norms. Condemning a person who lived in the past for not cleaving to eminently modern social norms is smallminded, and frankly retarded. It smacks of totalitarianism. Especially when we consider that modern definitions of "racism" are less and less descriptive terms, and more and more political buzzwords.

So no, I'm not going to call people who fought against racism well before it was cool, and when there was actual risk attached to it, "racist" because they don't cleave to the left wing radical Tumblr definition of what it means to not be racist.

Honestly, I think a huge problem in modern society and modern politics is this emotional reasoning where people throw the baby out with the bathwater every single fucking time. Politics ought to be the art of compromise, but today it's the art of fucking the other side out of power long enough to enact policy they can't possibly reverse.

>> No.9635237

>>9635159
WHY CAN'T I JUST READ A BOOK SET IN THE PAST THAT SATISFIES MY SJW MINDSET

>> No.9635251

>>9635159

I'm honestly surprised there was no mention of Steinbeck being literally Hitler

>> No.9635265

>>9635159
>can't voice an opinion without somehow roping Trump into it
why are liberals like this?

>> No.9635378

>>9635159
>people try to convince me modern liberals aren't brainwashed

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>>9635427

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>> No.9635476

>>9632613
>Conrad. Ruski.

Gr8 b8, m8.

>> No.9635488

These are very important threads, don't stop making them

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>> No.9635550

>>9635214
>In general, the results of presentism are so dire, comical, and infamous that we cannot avoid concluding that something is terribly wrong either with the method, or the present, or both.

>> No.9635629

>>9635159
>He was a vigorous man, and needed the body of a woman, and that too cost money-unless you were married to it.

This is irony and great prose, and this dummy gets triggered by it

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>>9628157
The comments on this review is honestly the height of literature. A truly epic tale of rage, despair and moments of clarity.

>> No.9636499

Imagine having a relationship with this daft bint.

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Perhaps I am the one who's daft, forgetting the image and all.

>> No.9636505

>>9628157
This perfectly sums up Potterheads. The most idiotic and clearly butthurt comments I've ever read. Just remember, any time you see someone on here defending it - especially if they're clearly offended - that they are, at best, as smart as those comments.

>> No.9636508

>>9636504
Ender's Game is dogshit though

>> No.9636516

>>9636508

It's good for for 9-13 year old boys.

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Have you ever heard of a collection of myths, /lit/?

>> No.9636658

>>9636504

She has a "bloody brilliant shelf" with John Green and writes in her bio that she loves BBC shows such as Doctor Who. Colour my shock.

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How dares Virgil steal monsters of the Strait of Messina for his tales of travel from Troy to Latium?

The nerve!

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>>9628157
>wow if only all the world coule be as pompous as yourself. obviously you buried your inner child in a cold dark place
Meanwhile Bloom got pic related in print. The keyword being: "of All Ages."

>> No.9636797

>>9635214
> Honestly, I think a huge problem in modern society and modern politics is this emotional reasoning where people throw the baby out with the bathwater every single fucking time. Politics ought to be the art of compromise, but today it's the art of fucking the other side out of power long enough to enact policy they can't possibly reverse.

I agree with this, and I think the rise of emotion has been paralleled by a decline in both the use of and a faith in reason. People can use reason to form a compromise, like

>this isn't perfect for me, but I'll take it, since you are willing to accept it

but you really can't compromise on emotions when it comes to strangers in the political realm (as opposed to your famil or close friends), especially when those emotions are given an apparent validation through the language of "my/our rights".

And this goes along with your second point, about gaining power to fuck the other side, in that central governments may now be too powerful and capable of affecting too many remote lives at a personal level, so there is a strong temptation for people to take hold of this enormous power in order to protect and advance themselves, their group, or whatever particular cause that they are emotionally invested in; and who gives a fuck about the other stakeholders in the social and political system, they're just wrong.

>> No.9637061

how do so many people continue to read when they always miss the fucking point? are most people really this shallow and retarded?

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>>9632552
>NIGHTMARISH LEWDNESS
I forgot how fucking weird that story was.

>> No.9637091

>>9637061

Yes; they are.

>> No.9637108

>all those top reviews on Ulysses of people just rage quitting the book

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>>9627267
>except perhaps mein kampf

>> No.9637136

>>9636720
You can tell this is a pleb who thinks that Homer was a single person and that everything within his poems were thought up by him

>> No.9637142

>>9637108
I feed on their tears. Portrait reviews just make me very resentful though since it's my favorite book. It seems like the one book that 99.9999% of females will just never understand.

>> No.9637185

>>9636504
>If you’re going to comment, at least read the whole review and not a quarter of it
>bookshelves: couldnt finish

It's the little details

>> No.9637248

>>9636584
This one actually upset me

>> No.9637250

How come this thread hasn't led to bait goodreads with fake reviews? Or have I missed something?

>> No.9637293

>>9636720

>Dante intensifies

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>>9624761
Man this Makes me so sad I love that book :(

>> No.9637322

>>9637185

Missed that, fucking brilliant.

>> No.9637334

>>9632091
You're no different than these reviewers if you think otherwise.

>> No.9637661

Every single Mein Kampf review is terrible

>> No.9637683

>>9636504
Yeah but pretty much all the science fiction classics have tons of reviews like this. By Big Bang Theory "geek-chic" millenials who are so sensitive that it's a wonder they can step outside their homes without being triggered to death.

>> No.9637820

>>9636508
Ender's Game is one of the best novels of the 20th century, and one of the best commentaries on war, period. It's taught at West Point for a reason. And it's all the better for its brevity and its subtlety. It's almost military in its efficiency - which is just another layer to why it's a great work of art.

It gets shit on 1) because of its author's politics, 2) because if it's author's politics - really, I can't overstate that enough, and 3) because a literary orthodoxy that's been educated to view a hundred pages of rambling about how the scent of cake recalls a childhood memory as the height of art has trouble parsing a book like Ender's Game.

>> No.9637848

>>9623864
(less)

>> No.9637851

>>9637820
The involuntary memory parts of Swann's way are absolutely sublime, though. I don't disagree with your point though.

>> No.9637878

>>9637661
JIDF trolls running amok no doubt.

>> No.9638376

>>9637851
>The involuntary memory parts of Swann's way are absolutely sublime, though
Yeah, I freely admit that I'm not really not qualified to judge Proust. I just wanted to emphasise that Ender's Game is a very different type of art to what literary professors and critics are used to. I've been over it pretty thoroughly, and it really is a genuinely great work.

Take Peter. What this girl says about his character >>9636504 is infuriating because the author gives you everything you need to understand Peter. You know that he was in the advanced military program, and was rejected, and after viewing the same situation through Ender's eyes you can infer how bitterly Peter must have taken his failure. You're also asked the question: is the line between Peter and Ender simply that Ender had Peter to torture him? Was the root of Peters cruelty his power - he was quite literally one of the smartest, strongest kids on earth, and unlike Ender he had no one to check him. He was so much smarter than his peers he could do whatever he wanted with them, which is always a recipe for creating a bully, and then his failure to graduate into the program twisted this into near psychopathy. But then the book also throws genetics into the mix - so you're left asking yourself: was there always something wrong with Peter? Ender's game play very subtly with the line between Ender the hero and Peter the villain, and the line between nature and nurture. I'm really just getting started on this, and yet what's wonderful about Ender's Game is that it's just one sub-theme, and it does it all so concisely that it can fit easily into what is really quite a short book.

>> No.9638421

>>9627267
imagine getting this mad when someone smarter than you challenges your worldview

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>> No.9639119

>>9627267
>flash my tits
>call him the pervert

Worst timeline

>> No.9639134

>>9638768

Dracula is the worst of the Victorian gothic novels, though.

>> No.9639152

>>9632572
>it seems to me inconceivable that great art or even good art could dwell in such unwholesome surroundings

was quinoa achebe actually retarded?

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I wondered how the original lesbian vampire tale would be received, I wasn't disappointed

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Let's compare a bunch of poetic fragments to the "underappreciated" completed tragedies we received

>> No.9639181

I'm pretty sure /lit/ isn't unaware of the most liked review of a certain book on the website, but in the event anon was:

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/5205104?book_show_action=true&from_review_page=1

>> No.9639230

>>9636720
I agree with Lena, The Aeneid is bad.

>> No.9639282

>>9639134
I haven't read Dracula, but I find it very, very hard to believe that anything could be worse than Frankenstein

>> No.9639293

>>9639173
>Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides
>Underappreciated
Lol, what the fuck? What the hell is wrong with this guy. All three of them have been insanely popular and appreciated by every scholar for all of human history.

>> No.9639391

>>9639230
It's unfinished. The story goes that Virgil even willed the draft burned.

>> No.9639410

>>9637121
I don't know if this is a special move animation, an immortal being edgy, or an actual anime hitler

>> No.9639437

>>9633812

>sleepy
>pastoral

You should probably read it again, my guy.

>> No.9639485

>>9627267
DO NOT GO TO COLLEGE

>> No.9639491

>>9639437
I'd like to, but I was talking about the setting, not the mood as a whole

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>>9639230
kys my man, The Aeneid is the only real classic we have.

>> No.9639616

>>9639437
>you should probably read it again
I probably should. Winesburg, Ohio was such an incredible book. I have no idea why it's never talked about on this board.

>> No.9639647

>>9639152
He later repudiated his own famous essay on Heart of Darkness and called it a great work of art.

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>>9632613
uh oh, now youve done it

>> No.9639701

>>9636508
t. snot nosed 17 year old just immersing himself /lit/ culture.

Compared to YA today it is one of the great youth classics

>> No.9639704

>>9638768
I always deeply admired Mina, I dont know what she is talking about.

>> No.9639776

>>9639152
Achebe was alright, that essay is dogshit though.
He later recognized it as such.

>> No.9639975

>>9627267

> flash him my tits

is this a good or bad review? does it depend on the tits?

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>> No.9640464

I hope that is not the actual column that you submitted, as I counted six (6) grammatical, spelling, and capitalization errors while reading it.

After reading this amusing little diatribe, I had to view your profile. This is the only book that you have listed. It seems rather odd to me that you would create a profile here, even go so far as to add the most pompous (and vastly amusing!) "quote" about yourself, only to add and review the one book that you seem to abhor above all others -- or so it seems, given that you have apparently read and reviewed no others, at least on GoodReads.

Also, I must say it is rather embarrassing for a Tolkien lover, such as myself, to read your "review" and see that out of three mentions of Tolkien, you spelled his name wrong twice. (That would be 2/3 of the time, for those of us keeping track.) For such a learned man as yourself, I am embarrassed FOR you.

Feel free to enjoy all the "difficult pleasures" you want in the books you choose to read. I read what I enjoy, and often. A good book should transport you away... and I don't mean to the E.R. with a migraine.

>> No.9641337

>>9627267
>flash him my tits and call him a pervert
unironically pretty hot

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>>9640412

>carnists

>> No.9641367

>>9639975
>does it depend on the tits?
I think that it certainly must. Hobbes would look past the incident violating the social contract as long as they're enjoyable to look at.

>> No.9641387

I've noticed that Goodreads authors usually don't have a lot of books marked as read, and usually don't give ratings at all.

If you're an autist like me who has hundreds of books rated and then become an author, do your publishers give a shit about your book ratings? Like, do they freak out if you gave Twilight 1 star because it could alienate your base or something?

https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/26367680?shelf=read
https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/16696978?shelf=read

>> No.9641394

>>9637142
When I was 15, my female Science teacher liked it

>> No.9641398

>>9641387
I'd like to say that people are not autistic enough to allow someones opinions on garbage books to influence their view on that person, but I know that to be false. If you do make it big I'd just remove some of those reviews. Unless you really care enough about giving it the review it deserves (but jesus christ anon, did you actually read Twilight?).

>> No.9641412

>>9641398

I was mostly just using a hypothetical. I know John Green has read The Great Gatsby because of that video he made, but he didn't add it on Goodreads. I guess revealing the classics you've read also reveals the classics you haven't read which can be embarrassing, but I'm just wondering if there's a larger reason why authors on Goodreads don't put down every book they've read.

>> No.9641446

>>9641412
Oh, I don't really know. I suppose that's a good question. I imagine that part of the reason why is that they'd feel inclined to give a comprehensive review if they marked it as read, and probably do not care enough to devote the time to doing that, especially if they already have a video detailing their opinions on the book. Who knows, really. Your guess is completely valid.

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>>9631719
>there are living people with English degrees who have never heard of the most entry level of entry level critics

>> No.9641633

>>9640319
>None of Kafka's works are necessarily approachable
>Kafka
>the very same Kafka who is adored by musicians the world over

>> No.9641708

>>9641387
https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/2311748?shelf=read
I guess they don't care. This dude is an editor and he gave Twilight and The Da Vinci Code 1 star, although those books are from a completely different fanbase as he focuses on victorian novels.

>> No.9641787

>>9639410
Google Persona and educate yourself

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Hot off the presses, you fucking nazis

>> No.9642253

>>9642245
This guy (?) is stupid but at least self-aware

>> No.9642261

>>9624930
The funny part is this is actually close to the viewpoint and ability of the majority of people.

>> No.9642477

>>9632572
heart of darkness isn't even about niggers or colonialism in particular

>> No.9642494

>>9624815
I mean, they're not wrong. I dont know what the actual content of the video was, but Rowling has more or less explicitly stated that one of her goals was to teach children about the dangers of racism and racial exceptionalism.

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>it's the review with the most likes
>he makes the tired old "lol why isn't the bible in the fiction section" joke
>gives good reviews to Ready Player One, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Game of Thrones, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, etc

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>>9623839
I'm a STEM-fag so I don't really know any better, but am I correct in thinking that these are these the type of vapid cunts that you encounter in Liberal Arts classes?

Makes me glad I dodged that bullet, all I have to deal with are idiots and males with extreme autism.

>> No.9642559

>>9642542
You get a few of that type, yeah, but they're more vocal than common. What's more, almost none of them get over with professors and such because they mostly read YA and write bad papers. It's easy enough to move through them and get a good education.

>> No.9643577

>>9624764
>pretentiousness: the good read review
people like this are the reason nobody takes literature seriously

>> No.9643612

>>9623839
>>9623864
>>9624794
>>9624930
>>9627267
>>9631697
>>9632572
>>9633837
>>9635159
>>9635427
>>9636504
>>9636584
>>9636720
>>9638768
>>9639165
>>9640412
women were a mistake

>> No.9643631

>>9643612
this. who else /homosexual/ here?

>> No.9643634

>>9627267
>Richard Cumberland go home, you're drunk.

>> No.9643709

>>9635523
Is he talking about Tristram Shandy? Started reading that yesterday and I'm enjoying it so far.

>> No.9643808

>>9643709
It's a great read. /lit/ contrarians deny it, though.

>> No.9643820

>>9642503
>le the Bible is fiction edgy joke
Every fucking time. That guy looks like open carries a katana wherever he goes.

>> No.9644029

>>9632572
We had a debate in my AP Lit. class about HOD, and I got to argue with these people. They are so inept, they think that using the word "nigger" automatically made Conrad racist. I told them so many times that you have to look at the entire book, not just 1 word to see that Conrad was writing against colonialism, and saying that white men were just as animalistic as the black people they called animals. My blood was boiling by the end.

HOD is a horrible read, though. If it was any longer, I probably would have given up. It's just so dull and boring, I'd rather read a dictionary.

>> No.9644055

>>9631562
I think Reddit would suit you better

>> No.9644262

>>9640412
Not eating anmals is the patrician choice. Why is lit not vegan yet?

>> No.9644277

>>9640412

As a true patrician of Korean lit, and a champion of all things Koreaboo, I vehemently oppose this perspective.

;)

[I am the creator of the current Critique Thread, complete with picture of Han Kang.]

;)

>> No.9644375

>>9639165
literally told me nothing about the book she read

when will people realise that "i don't like thing because i don't like it very much" isn't insightful?

>> No.9644379

>>9639704
This, plus there's a genuine sense of friendship throughout the majority of the book that just warms your heart.

I think because people expect Dracula to be the true OG of horror literature, consisting nothing but spooky shenanigans, they're quite disappointed when it has more to do with friendship, loyalty, enigma, dreaming and health. It's genuinely a great book.

>> No.9644402

>>9632626
I don't get how anyone who has read that book can say otherwise, anon. It's clear the slaves were more human than their masters in the novel.

>> No.9644903

>>9634752
Speaking of Said, his take on Heart of Darkness is very rounded in Culture and Imperialism. Recommend checking it out.

>> No.9645043

>>9635427

wait, what book is this?

>> No.9645136

>>9640412
>The girl comes out as gay/lesbian
quietly cut off all contact

>> No.9645507

>>9644903
Iirc Conrad was Said's favorite author; as a Palestinian who didn't and couldn't live in the land of his birth, he sympathized with the Polish Conrad who lived in England and elsewhere and wrote primarily in a language that was not his native tongue, and identified this quality in his books.

>> No.9645765

>>9644277

>as a true patrician of Korean lit

What would you recommend outside of The Vegetarian? Is The Cloud Dream of the Nine good?

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>>9645043

>> No.9646068
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A Galaxy Tab A SM-T580 10.1

Applications on the device are as follows;

>MX Player Pro (Movies)
>Cool Reader (Reading, Night Mode Enabled)
>MuPDF (Muh Tabletop)
>Package Disabler Pro (Disable everything but base android requirements)
>Twilight (Muh Blue Light Filter)

For the price (230 US) the tablet has a killer battery, charges last me usually 2 days if I use it for just reading and watching movies. Its fucking giant so you can easily see everything in Tapletop PDFs and get easier reading if you so choose. You also do not really need an SD Card if you are using it for movies and reading. I can comfortably store 3 movies along with thousands of Tabletop Documents and Books on the 16GB Model. If you want to get extra creative you could just ditch the Movies and MX Player and go with Netflix or w/e assuming you get Wifi. This model DOES NOT have any slots for a SIM Card or Cellular Service of any kind.

>> No.9647446

>>9643808
>/lit/ contrarians deny it, though.
I thought the book was loved here.
Also I've made more progress and I have to say that the book is amazing.

>> No.9647454

>>9642503
>Moses
>one-dimensional
no?

>> No.9647461

>>9642503
>Complaining that Adam and Eve aren't mentioned in the other parts of Bible
How can one person be so retarded?

>> No.9647545

>>9642245
>How can a smart person also be a Nazi? I don't know.

I love it when liberals get confused about their narrow world view.

>> No.9647550

>>9647545
annoys me desu
reminder if you are unfamiliar enough with views different to yours to not understand why someone would hold them you ARE a pseud and must infect yourself with ultra-ebola immediately

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>>9640396

I get the same review, word for word, on my dating app.

>> No.9647725

>tfw someone unfollows you after you binge on nazi literature.

>> No.9648629

>>9639173
>sappho
>a beat
Now im triggered

>> No.9649087

>>9644055
Wow you sure showed me guy

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What a fucking horrible comparison

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>>9649256
>not only reading for the plot, but shitting on good prose

is this for real? who does this? Holy shit i hadn't felt this mad in months

>> No.9649303

>>9649256
Even if that comparison wasn't retarded, people do get excited about how fast a guitarist can play

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I really like how he thinks talking about penises makes him sound smart.

>> No.9650341

>>9623839
Stupid of Malory not to anticipate 20th century attitudes. Almost as if he didn't have a time machine.

>> No.9651045

>>9639293
It's because her heard of them and his friends hadn't so he assumed he'd discovered a new stream of literature lost to time

>> No.9651050

>>9650334
I want this person to have an existential crisis so fucking bad

>> No.9651135

>>9642503
I genuinely feel sick

>> No.9651431

>>9651135
This whole thread made me nauseous.

>> No.9651947

>>9647454
i like how your denial was even a question. jesus, but especially moses, were not one-dimensional even from a "bible as literature" perspective

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Do plebs expect "entertainment" from the likes of Sartre?

>> No.9652950

>>9652099

>Nausea
>Muh tedious

>> No.9654471

>>9632572
Why on Earth are women allowed to review media?