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What are some of the most scholarly truth bombs you have encountered in literature? e.g., truths about the universe, about life, etc

>> No.9780505

>>9780495
-My existence is meaning and insignificant in the grand scheme of things
-Regardless of how intelligent I believe I am, in reality my intellect is laughably pathetic compared to the real creative geniuses of the world

>> No.9780511

>>9780495
"Now, patience; and remember patience is the great thing, and above all things else we must avoid anything like being or becoming out of patience." from finnwake

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The problem with truth bombs is that they're context-specific, by which I mean 1) what appears shocking in one context is not in another. Scientific rationality was dropping truth bombs left and right at around 1650, but it's conquered the world so thoroughly now that the Medieval Christian world it destroyed has more truth bomb potential in 2017 than it did in 1617. 2) Context-specificity means that truth bombs always have arguments behind them, and it's these arguments which give them the quality of truth. Detached from the argument, they become just "bombs," ie, banalities. But:

>The scientific desire for truth is secularized Christianity.
>There is no freedom without constraint, compulsion, and hierarchy; freedom exists within a system and is not the bursting of the system.
>Concepts which oppose each other are often mutually implicating.
>Morality, particularly indignation, often motivates us, even (especially) when we try to act and think non-morally.

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>>9780511
Can someone elaborate on this?

>> No.9780566

if you cut a sandwich in half do you have two halves of a sandwich or two sandwiches?

>> No.9780582

Coming from a "The Amazing Atheist" background

>You can't argue against moral realism without contesting several aspects essential to thriving as a social being with rational capacities
>God makes as much sense as no God and agnosticism is not the reconciliatory and pragmatic alternative you think it is just as any skeptic or heuristic approach (not to mention empirical approaches), it is ultimately a category mistake
>Determinism is highly likely to be true at the human level
>Determinism is also a meaningless idea and can't be used to compellingly argue against freedom of choice or moral responsibility not to mention state law
>If arguments for nihilism or literature about muh existential dread give you negative psychological reactions, go see a psychologist. Stop seeking philosophy's advice for non-philosophical problems.

>> No.9780689

>>9780495
She got a big booty so I call her big booty

>> No.9780702

Life is absurd.
There is no meaning in life beyond that which humans impose.
Morality is relative.

~~posted by a published philosopher/poet~~~

>> No.9780708 [DELETED] 

>>9780702
>Life is absurd.
>There is no meaning in life beyond that which humans impose.
>Morality is relative.
But all of these can be answered with "So what?". How are they truth bombs?

>> No.9780715

>>9780582

These are all great. Especially the last one.

Ever read Fernando Pessoa? He is supposed tone the single most depressed poet there is, yet his books (and his personal dread) only evoke happiness and especially beauty in me.

>> No.9780719

>>9780702

t. read camus in high school

I like the stranger, too, anon, but..

>> No.9780720

"If you are distressed by anything external, the pain is not due to the thing itself, but your estimate of it; and this you have the power to revoke at any moment. " -Marcus

>> No.9780765

>>9780531
Good post.

>> No.9780907

>>9780582
>Determinism is highly likely to be true at the human level
There is no layer unaffected by Quantum randomness. Only the observed avoid it, but only for the duration of the observation.

The easiest way to comprehend it (with simplification, obviously) is to imagine the world rendering itself from its potential.

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>>9780566

>> No.9781083

The ego or self is an illusory construct created by maladaptive evolutionary side effect called self-consciousness. Even without realizing this, you are bound by it.

>> No.9781087

>>9780907
ah monsieur, what's this observed? observer? are you spreading more of those neo-Machian lies?

>> No.9782096

Farting in church is socially acceptable so long as it's silent.

>> No.9782208

>>9780550
Be patient and avoid not being patient.

>> No.9782222

This is starting to sound like fake aphorisms thread