/lit/ - Literature

What are you supposed to get out of Spengler?

I'm not interested in intellectual masturbation of the ravings of mad men. I read for pragmatic purposes. What utility can I get out of Spengler's works?

What if he's just another doomer and the course we're on right now might be drastically different to what he envisioned? Nobody fucking expected Trump or any of this SJW shit 15 years ago. There is a great upheavel happening in the world. America is moving to the far left, Europe is moving to the far right.

Also, it's amusing how Spengler deems Chinese culture died long ago and remains dead when the Chinese of today are Manchurian invaders who have absolutely nothing to do with the Ancient Chinese who he judged.

Was he a doomer? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take away from his works.

OP is correct.

Begin with Spengler.

>>16463194
Oswald Spengler.

Quite possibly the most relevant philosopher of today. Who else but him could so completely predict the various states of our evolving society?

Rather than starting with the Greeks, I want to start with Spengler. Should I just outright begin reading Decline of the West to start with, or is there another author/work that's required reading to understand Spengler entirely?

Is it worth finding an unabridged version of The Decline of the West?

>btfo the entire field of anthropology

its good tho because modern anthropology is probably the most useless field in existence

>Oswald Spengler argued that the materialist vision of Karl Marx was based on nineteenth-century science, while the twentieth century would be the age of psychology

was he right?

This explains everything.

The book challenges one of the most prominent Faustian concepts - that of history as linear progress.
So is the fact that the book exists itself an indication of doom, since it challenges the Ursymbol of its own high culture? A book like this would never be written in the "Summer" stage of a culture.

How much more do we have left?

>>13933548
>he doesn't know

Here is a great discussion of Ebert and Culkin's new book HYPERMODERNITY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mOYJs7eqVg

>>12258113
>how did he do it lads

To be fair, he also did some predictions which didn't come true, like that the US would break up along ethno-racial lines following the Great Depression.

However, that changes when you consider that race-related issues have been at the centre of American politics for about 60 years now...

So yeah, the guy didn't fuck around. Totally one of my favorite german authors (along with his buddy Jünger)

I am pleased to report that through my library's loan system, I was able to obtain a physical copy of the ever-elusive 400 page undergraduate honors thesis of Henry Kissinger, The Meaning of History: Reflections on Spengler, Toynbee and Kant.

From what I have seen, there is not a single copy of it available anywhere online. I'm going to look into photocopying so others can read it as well.

Let me know if you have any requests, I'll post some pictures of it below.

I would recommend to others looking to get their hands on it to also try their library's interlibrary loan system.

Spengler thread.

Last one was pretty good and hit the bump limit.

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