/lit/ - Literature

>>3000917
lel

>>2800182

>>2792004
Give "The Mysterious Stranger" a spin. It's radically different than either Adventures. Too short to be a novel, but it's still a masterpiece.

>>2780719
Well... okay.

>>2779855
There's no need to be angry, anonymous.

>>2779843
You're very immature.

>>2779833
I don't disagree with any of this.

But I don't think being alive is its own justification, and I am not going to stop someone whose life is endless suffering, or someone who has seriously decided that life is not worth living, from ending it.

>>2779824
Do you consider the fact that you evolved to live long enough to reproduce a satisfactory raison d'etre?

>>2779782
Yeah, I thought it was really good. It didn't make me any more religious, but it killed much of my incredulity toward those who are.

>>2779812
The biological imperative is the best you have to offer? How old are you? Have you even finished high school?

>>2779778
This is a much better response and one I can sympathize with.

>Fear of the unknown, death being the greatest and most final.
It's not so unknown unless you give it supernatural means to maintain your own self. But I don't buy that. I accept that fear of death can be the greatest and most final, but I think it's the fear of not existing that would keep me from killing myself if I ever felt that way again. Because I have the rest of the universe to not exist, and only a few more decades to try to enjoy this or make it mean something or change things for the better before I go.

>Hope that perhaps I will find something in this life to make it worth living.
If you can, try to be less passive about this. Consider revising priorities. If you're not doing anything worthwhile (to yourself, I mean), try to think of what might be and then pursue it. I'm sorry I can't be more specific; you'll need to create your own motivation.

>Compassion for the few remaining people who actually give a damn if I die.
I was like this for a while in high school. It was my mom. I knew it would destroy her. If you can somehow manage to live for yourself AND others instead of just for others, you will be much more content.

>I'm not some angsty teen saying fuck the world; I just don't see the point.
The problem is that there's no inherent point. You're the result of several processes, none of which dictate what you should or must do. There is an institutional "point," to "benefit society" through employment and reproduction, but that's clearly as empty to you as it is to me. You need to make your own point, or at least try to.

If you haven't read The Stranger by Albert Camus, please do.

>>2779488
It's Nietzsche. Of course it's dramatic. If you weren't alive, there would be no chance to have a single moment of happiness or fulfillment. If you don't think the dregs of life are worth that, why haven't you killed yourself?

You would be well within your rights to. The right to end one's life is as important to one's freedom as the right to live it.

>>2779140
It's been a while since I've read Soapy. I like much of his pessimism, and his discussion of will. I don't like his negation of life and its pleasures or his bitter Western Buddhism. Nietzsche's life-affirmation in The Will to Power is my favorite response to Soapy and his ken:

>If we affirm one moment, we thus affirm not only ourselves but all existence. For nothing is self-sufficient, neither in us ourselves nor in things; and if our soul has trembled with happiness and sounded like a harp string just once, all eternity was needed to produce this one event - and in this single moment of affirmation all eternity was called good, redeemed, justified, and affirmed.

Have you tried On the Genealogy of Morals, The Antichrist, or Twilight of the Idols?

>>2775614
The latter. It's just a joke for people who care enough to look. They might have such an email address, but I sure as hell don't have access to it.

>>2775597
Yep. Good eye.

>>2775590
Subheadings were added later. So were the verse numerations. Do realize that many works in the Bible were pieced sewn together from older tradition, but I'm pretty sure that the Gospels (WITH THE VERY IMPORTANT EXCEPTION of the ending to Mark in most cases [Jesus is never seen after he is gone from the tomb in the original]) are completely from their one author.

>>2775277
That's not deliberately provocative. THIS is deliberately provocative:

'In belief in what? In love with what? In hope for what?—There’s no doubt that these weak people—at some time or another they also want to be the strong people, some day their “kingdom” is to arrive—they call it simply “the kingdom of God,” as I mentioned. People are indeed so humble about everything! Only to experience that, one has to live a long time, beyond death—in fact, people must have an eternal life, so they can also win eternal recompense in the “kingdom of God” for that earthly life “in faith, in love, in hope.” Recompense for what? Recompense through what? . . . In my view, Dante was grossly in error when, with an ingenuity inspiring terror, he set that inscription over the gateway into his hell: “Eternal love also created me.” Over the gateway into the Christian paradise and its “eternal blessedness” it would, in any event, be more fitting to let the inscription stand “Eternal hate also created me”—provided it’s all right to set a truth over the gateway to a lie! For what is the bliss of that paradise? . . . Perhaps we might have guessed that already, but it is better for it to be expressly described for us by an authority we cannot underestimate in such matters, Thomas Aquinas, the great teacher and saint: “In the kingdom of heaven” he says as gently as a lamb, “the blessed will see the punishment of the damned, so that they will derive all the more pleasure from their heavenly bliss.” '

>>2774449
It's still The Stranger. I reread the end of that book an hour ago and it made my tear up with happy tears.

Also The Bible, Micromegas, Les Fleurs du Mal, One Hundred Years of Solitude, etc...

>>2774447
I was just trying to be helpful. Of course I don't set any rules. You've upset me, anon. I'm going to go onto my balcony and finish The Plague and this bottle of recolte.

>>2774404
There are many fake okcupid profiles using Nadia pictures. Her name is Nadia and she lives in Texas

>>2774417 used to be valid, but two weeks ago she deleted her facebook after harassment from someone on /b/. It wasn't a very pretty thread (except for the pictures). She still has an active tumblr, and occasionally posts self-shots (nothing scandalous) there: http://howobeseofyou.tumblr.com/

Many images have been saved.

Go to >>b with this, though. This isn't literature.

>>2774377
The Stranger. I'm sick of these fucking existential crisis people.

>>2773211
>I'd be hard pressed to make a less coherent, pretentious trip if I tried.
It's easier than you think.

>>2772568
ahahahaha