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10524330 No.10524330 [Reply] [Original]

"gary versus jerry" edition

>old threads:
>>10498790
>>10517506

>> No.10524356

>>10524330
So gary was the original nutjob, right? Who's jerry?

>> No.10524392

>>10524356
Im working on trying to reverse engineer garys scam so we can prove its a scam and be done. Or what I would really hope for is he's legit but I seriously doubt it after our conversation so far.

>> No.10524398

>>10524392
Are you using python for the CA? Seeing this re-ignited my interest in CA and made me dig up a book I downloaded, just been trying to decide what to program it in. Also, are you using matplotlib to create the images or openCV or something?

>> No.10524460

>>10524398
Not quite, Im using openGL directly for maximum efficiency in simulating raw CA, however for testing different patterns and ideas out Im mostly using Ready.

https://github.com/GollyGang/ready

Funny enough a number of the default inbuilt rules are pretty similar looking to Garys CA which makes me suspicious his may just be a few known rules stacked on top of eachother.

Also Ive got a couple RTX 2080Ti cards that Im working with so I have power to run at a pretty large scale and fast framerate. Gary has to manually click through his because its so slow and shitty lol. (Sorry Gary if you are legit, theres a lot of evidence you arent so its hard not to make fun of it a bit, dont take it personally. If you can prove me wrong I will have much respect)

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10524491

Subscribe to Optimum Theory.

>> No.10524554

>>10524460
Any updates?

>> No.10524653

I solved the JFK assassination with Optimum theory. AMA

>> No.10524660

Is this a continuous spatial automatic or is it all still discrete

>> No.10524676

>>10524460
He may have revealed in the latest video that his layers are not actually important for computing the next step, but more of just different visualizations of the same underlying automata.

He said something like “let me switch filters to show you what it looks like in reality, these different views are just like are different senses.”

He might just be obfuscating with the whole “ten layer” thing, especially considering his initial faith/paranoia that it was simple enough to figure out by now, if he was genuine about that he wouldn’t believe that he gave enough info to actually figure out ten layers of rules.

>> No.10524726

>>10524676

Noticed the same thing.

Transcribtion 14 minutes in of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=904&v=j3aVo3O_rnc

> See how they're connected? These are the same thing. Every single video I've shown, they all look little different, but that just because they use different filters over them. The data underneath is always the same. Its always the same. The data here on top is the same as the data below, they're just one timestep removed. So, they have different filters, so you can see different aspects of them. So for example, the filter you're seeing right now is the energy-pressure that is in the middle 1%, like 49.5 on top and bottom.

Another possiblity is that he is using different CAs for different demonstrations, that they are not connected at all. His explanation of how all these are connected just seems so vague.

>> No.10524733

>>10524726
If youre familiar with reaction diffusion his might just be a 10 layer reaction diffusion loop
So chemical 1 (layer 1) reacts with 2, reacts with 3, into 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 reacts with 1 again.

Seems to satisfy the 1 timestep removed idea. Im busy but ill try this later tonight

>> No.10524825

>>10524660
he said it works in 2d or 3d, and i strain to believe it would work in any number of dimensions.
he's using a square grid, but it manages to produce circular shapes, so you could probably use any other tessellation and get the same results.
if the above it true, it's definitely possible to create a continuous model, but the only difference would be that it's way slower to run. so i see no reason not to stick with descartes.

>> No.10524933

lerkin and lookin for some leakin

>> No.10524935

>>10524733
>If youre familiar with reaction diffusion
No

We are counting on you, Jerry

>> No.10524936

>>10524460
I get it. I honest believe that if you figure it out you will be a believer so I'm not worried. Even if you do figure it out, and are not a believer it doesn't really change anything because it will be like watching an evolution denier try and explain how the fossil record does not support evolution. Cheers.

-G

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>>10524491

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>>10524936
I really hope you have the capacity to realize that your model might not be as perfect as you think it is, admit partial defeat, and seek to improve it. The main draw of skepticism at first was incredulity, but now your secrecy seems to be revealing of an underlying insecurity.

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>> No.10525020

Gary should just set up Patreon tiers or a kickstarter. He already said he knows once one person gets the rule they'll be able to share it, might as well take out the middle man. If you absolutely refuse to give it out for free Gary, would you give it out if we collectively raised the $100?

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>>10524330
reminds me of the clrs cover

>> No.10525037

>>10524950
Shia, I'm going to do it, and you aren't going to like

>> No.10525071

I quote from him:

E/S = U.
Literally the universe.
That's all there is.
E is energy-pressure. S is space-density.

He doesn't explain these terms further.
Also this if it hasn't been seen yet:
www.optimist.center

>> No.10525108

>>10525071
hehe i love this guy, funnest shit posted here in a while and no end int sight. Hey Gary are you posting this stuff on other places as well or just here? Somebody must have payed to join already.

>> No.10525115

is it really a CA? Looks more like a PDE on a quad grid to me. Are the states discrete?

>> No.10525232 [DELETED] 

>>10525020
>If you absolutely refuse to give it out for free Gary, would you give it out if we collectively raised the $100?
I am willing to pay $5. We need 20 people like me.

>> No.10525236

you guys are wasting your time

>> No.10525241

>>10525232
>4chan crowdsources $100 to pay for a cellular automata that may or may not be a UTOE
lmfao
i would have paid in full if there was a paper. i guess this is the next best thing though. if gary sets up a paypal and links it on his site i'll give him 5 bucks.

>> No.10525247

>>10525241
also at this point the $5 is more like a voluntary donation since i appreciate the man spending the better part of 5 days constantly putting up with our shit

>> No.10525289

>>10525241
I would be happy to send $10 via bitcoin or something of the like for crowdfunded access. Idk how we would sort between those who legit donated and not, maybe a smart contract could be setup for it? Like once it reaches $100 then it deposits into an address Gary posts, or converts and buys it and maybe sends something back to everyone who crowd sourced to get access.

I easily could afford giving 100 and would be happy to give that and more if I had verification of the model though

>> No.10525293

>>10525289
i vote that if he gets $100 he sends his shit to jerry.

>> No.10525319

gary is a faggot why did i waste my time reading all this

>> No.10525324

I think $100 crowdsourcing for the rule is fair, and gives the opportunity to fund more of Gary and Jerry's future adventures if anything interesting comes up. I'd gladly throw $5-10 towards it, all things said and done Gary's been a decent sport throughout as well. I'm not gonna throw $100 at a stranger for something that might turn out to be nothing but 5 bucks aint shit

>> No.10525357

>>10525293
>i vote that if he gets $100 he sends his shit to jerry.
I agree. I would pay $5 for that.

>> No.10525358

i also would pay $5 to send shit to jerry

>> No.10525761

>>10524958
>I really hope you have the capacity to realize that your model might not be as perfect as you think it is, admit partial defeat, and seek to improve it.

Yes of course, I am improving the model all the time.

-G

>> No.10525763

>>10524969

Dope af

-G

>> No.10525769

>>10525108

I am just posting here. eye Love u guys 2

-G

>> No.10525771

No homo

-G

>> No.10525809

>>10525324
I really appreciate that. I will try and have the website finished sometime tonight. It will have the rule on it, as well as a "build" video of around 1 hour duration explaining the automaton in depth. Also included is the complete 2.5 hour "Philosophy of Optimum Theory" which explains what I believe to be the implications of the unified equation and includes how the equation can be used to model biological systems including reproduction (abiogenesis) also the hard problem of consciousness, and general artificial intelligence. The site also has a private message & meetup board. A few engineers have also joined the team to help improve the sim because frankly I'm not the the best programmer (but I am getting better) so you might see them on the boards there as well. Ultimately, I would like the site to be a place where people can meet up locally in real life and work on these kind of advanced activities including health and fitness related activities (don't read too deep into that, it's as wholesome as it sounds - this isn't Grinder). Full optimization: mind & body. That's the goal of the institute. More info soon. Cheers. -G

>> No.10525855

>>10525809
aw i was looking forward to meeting single optimum theorists in my area for some "full optimization" ;)

it sounds like a cool community though. i hope it lives up to your expectations.

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Jerry here, I'm ready to go hard working on this tonight. Will post updates as I work.

Currently thinking about heat equations and how patterns like gary's can result from such things.

I say heat equations because thats basically what Gary said was the right track, averages as I had described before.
Pic related

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>>10526161
Ok I got distracted

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10526180

You schizos literally just reinvented explicit finite differencing for solving PDEs. /sci/ really has gone to shit if I am the first person to point this out.

>> No.10526205

>>10526180
If you're referring to my mention of heat equations yea lol. I'm no schizo, I'm pretty sure this whole thing is bullshit but the CA that Gary showed does look interesting, almost like a cross between heat dissipation and abelian sandpiles.

>>10526175
this goes pretty good with almost any song lol

>> No.10526212

>>10526205
You are taking well known numerical methods, applying bullshit terminology on top of them, and then claiming a novel result.

>> No.10526217

>>10526212
I'm Jerry not Gary. I'm not applying any bullshit terminology, nor claiming any results.

>> No.10526274

>>10526180
I had the intuition that DEs would be related in the end of the second thread, but I have a calc 1 understanding of them.

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For reference, this is what correct simulation of two slit experiment looks like. Note that Gary's original video on this wasn't quite right, and he claimed it was anyways. hmm makes me think.

The concerning thing to me is even in the "updated" "fixed" version, it doesn't quite look like this. Gary if you update again and can show it at greater scale that may increase your credibility.

>> No.10526329

>>10526161

Wow! That's cool!

-G

>> No.10526343

>>10526277

Recreating the double slit experiment at that level of detail using the Optimum Theory Automaton would required pixel sized cells. Millions of cells. I don't have the processing power for that. People have reached out to help create the equation in C, etc... so maybe then. Furthermore, the automaton has a life of its own - that's kind of the whole point of automaton, and so it's very difficult to "throw" a particle of that size, in the automaton, through the double slit, but I'm not saying it's impossible.

-G

>> No.10526344

>>10526277

In short, that does not appear to be a unified theory of everything simulator, just a simulation of a particular aspect of physics.

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>>10526343
Can you run the automaton backwards to see what initial conditions might perform the desired experiment?

>> No.10526427

>>10526343
Well I have the processing power to do it with ease, so please help me out

>>10526344
uh...yea...duh...its simulating the model of probability for photons, schlongdonger equations

>> No.10526500

>>10526414

Great question. Someone asked this a few days ago too. No, the automaton cannot be run backward; it's actually a hard rule of math with this equation. Time only has a forward direction, and this is very logical:

Imagine you have the number 10 and you know that 2 numbers added to equate 10; what numbers added to equal 10? It's impossible to deduce. It could have been 1+9, or 2+8, or 7+3 etc...

>> No.10526504

>>10526427

I might give you free access to the site. I was hoping to finish this evening but will have to finish up (hopefully!) tomorrow. Will be worth the wait! -G

>> No.10526521

>>10526504
That would be great

>> No.10526760

>>10526500
>can't run it backwards

wut

>> No.10527033

>>10526414
Since this is just finite differencing, yes you can.

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10527157

reminder that gary the schizo just wants fame and money

>> No.10527178

>>10526343
You could probably do it with a pixel shader as well that might even be a lot faster than using C

>> No.10527184

>>10527178
In industry, these simulations are performed using CUDA and highly optimized linear algebra routines.

>> No.10527259

>>10527157
>Dark Matter is fluid
is this a meme or is there something to this?

>> No.10527273

>>10527259
no, dark matter does not exist.

>> No.10527405

>>10526504
>I might give you free access to the site.
Just do it, Gary. You have your first name and face on your content online and at least 100 witnesses here on 4chan. These threads will be archived, and I am personally downloading them and saving them on my computer as well. You will get the credit you deserve for your theory, regardless of its importance.
>I was hoping to finish this evening but will have to finish up (hopefully!) tomorrow. Will be worth the wait!
Nice!

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looking forward to the site

>> No.10527504

>>10527490
could you code a universe simulation? like a program that has all known laws and equations, so you could create a simulated spacetime and simulate particles or whatever

>> No.10527557

>>10527490
>>10527504
please jerry bro
Build the universe simulation so we can finally have realistic VR
Even if you can only simulate a electron because of our processing power, it'd still be great

>> No.10527650

>>10524330
bump

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10527824

You guys want some?

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Do you guys remember that Hoah guy few months back, who 'invented' a new type of transistor? I have a same feeling

>> No.10527866

>>10524733
jerry you are doing god's work, literally

fuck gary

>> No.10528093

>>10527557
Yea I mean for good VR actually doesn't have much to do with physics. Only belief. Basically you can just feed the brain low resolution basic environment built with little computing power, and then send signals to rationality center that everytime the low resolution is recognized it gets hijacked and replaced with a signal for recognition of high resolution reality. The brain takes care of filling in the gaps.

Think about how detailed your memory is and then think if the random patterns of things changed all the time how would you know? If the signal of "something has changed" is replaced with a signal of "thats exactly how its always been" then you will simply carry on as normal. Really makes me think.

But that isnt really related to this. Though I suppose CAs may be good for creating natural systems that are implicitly as real and unpredictable as what we know

>>10527504
I mean yea but thats already been done before and as Gary noted, they can only simulate tiny scales. Garys model is likely limited to small scales if it is real at all but at least when I get the rule Ill be able to run it at significantly higher resolution than what Gary has shown so far.

>> No.10528097

>>10527824
Hi lets solve the universe lol

>> No.10528108 [DELETED] 

>>10528097
Do ya feel like solving physics today? Well do ya, punk?

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>>10528097
Do ya feel like solving physics today? Well do ya, punk?

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>>10528097
I'm putting together a team.
Wanna join?

>> No.10528120

>>10524330
will this simulation give a scientific explanation of why I cannot build muscle

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>>10528120
Stop impersonating me.

>> No.10528202

>>10528123
>>10528120
>>10528118
Hey woah don't take Terry's name. RIP Terry :(
TempleOS is gods OS

>>10528115
>>10528097
jfc lol

>> No.10528220

>>10524726
This guy is so full of shit. It just looks like some perlin noise type stuff.
>I'll reveal the secret on Joe Rogan
He isn't a skitzo, he is a con man

>> No.10528225

>>10528220
it's too clean to be generated with a noise algo, check out https://youtu.be/pqHWa5EVXXY?t=307

the hidden layer spreadsheets are too well-defined imho

>> No.10528289

Looks like a dendrite model to me.

>> No.10528381

I will suck any and all of your dicks for access to a cluster of xboxes

-GG

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Uh so this happened as I've been trying to replicate
help

>> No.10528476

>>10527157
Not saying I'm Gary, but if I was, I would say that Gary gave the World plenty of time to steal this idea from him. He was practically throwing the idea at people saying, "Holy shit are you seeing this???" And they ignored him, but now that he has done the work it's like The Little Red Hen who baked the bread, now all the other animals want to act like the Hen owes them something. Furthermore, YOU are one of those people whom Gary approached, as that is the only way you would know about that deleted post. If fact, if I were Gary, I would even know who you are, and Gary would say that you are worst little animal of all. You were the little animal who spit at this idea the hardest from Go, and Gary doesn't owe you a Mother. Fucking. Thing

>> No.10528479

>>10528476
hi gary :3

>> No.10528480

>>10528475
>stuck in a fractal factory send help

>> No.10528493

>>10527490
>>10526175
>>10526161
what software is this?

>> No.10528496

>>10528476
>being this obvious
fuck off gary.

>> No.10528502

>>10527259

If I were Gary I would say this:

In January of 2018, when Gary first began to make solid breakthroughs into his unified theory of everything, he posted a video, similar to the ones you have seen, to r/physics on Reddit. The post was one of the most commented on posts in the history of r/physics before the post was deleted by Mods and Gary's account banned because "Gary is not from a research institution of note" - the person who posted that deleted comment is presumably one of the "established physicists" who was most adamant that Gary should be banned from r/physics.

Gary's post to r/physics was simple: "I theorize that dark matter is a super fluid". Gary stated this calmly, rationally and politely.

The very next day, that theory, "Dark Matter is a superfluid", was endorsed by Sabine Hossenfelder who frequents r/physics and who is one of the most respected physics working today. And approx 8 months later, mostly because of Sabine's endorsement, that position, that "dark matter is a super fluid" became an official position of the PENN State physics department, and it continue to gain speed in the physics community.

THAT is how disruptive Gary's ideas are.

And that is only a FRACTION of the complete Optimum Theory. Optimum Thoery is simply the most revolutionary theory breakthrough in American history, and for many people that is simultaneously exciting and terrifying.

This is what I would tell you if I were Gary.

>> No.10528511

>>10528476
>Gary doesn't owe you a Mother. Fucking. Thing
I mean, its true, but he's still here waving this thing in our faces without letting us touch it. I bet most of the people in these threads didn't hear about Optimum Theory before Gary came to 4chan. Now he's been here over a week trying to hype up this thing, and it kinda worked. /sci/ have definitely did not ignored Gary, but we are starting to get tired of being held in suspense. From my perspective, we have given Gary the platform he so desperately needed.

>> No.10528517

>>10528502
if you were gary could you post an archived/cached link to that reddit post to verify these claims

>> No.10528518

>>10527504
Now you are getting it, senpai.

>> No.10528521

>>10528517
Yes, sauce on this plz, Gary

>> No.10528549

>>10528517
If I were Gary I would say that I am going to make a video all about it, showing how this idea rippled outward, and following the links through the internet. And that I am also going to show how I did the same thing to inspire Amazon to build the first smart speaker. You can draw a straight line through Gary's prototypes and posts about his Smart Speaker, the first of its kind, that he build in 2013 and the Amazon Echo, released in 2014. If I were Gary, I would say that this was all fun for a while, and I have no hard feelings about any of it. But if the world wants to see real innovative thought - and not just derivatives of real innovation, then it's time to "recognize real" and give real vision, innovation and leadership the recognition and resources that it deserves.

If I were Gary.

>> No.10528564

>>10528511
And this platform will just fade away as Gary will never show us Optimum Theory in full. We clearly do not trust Gary enough to pay him $99 for access to his webpage. Very few here on /sci/ is that gullible. If Optimum Theory is legit, then selling access to it for $99 is be a terrible way to go about it. There's plenty of better things he could be doing with it first. Thus if Optimum Theory is legit, then /sci/s rejection of paying $99 for access is in Garys best interest.

>>10528549
> I did the same thing to inspire Amazon to build the first smart speaker
I would say this is just Gary trying to make /sci/ think he's gullible like that.

>> No.10528590

>>10528564

Gary would say that you don't have to believe a word he says. Optimum Theory will be validated tomorrow, next year or 1000 years from now. The logic of it is extraordinary and speaks for itself. Gary doesn't give af, he's just having fun and doing this for his own edification primarily. Gary would say now he has to get back to work. This is what Gary would say.

>> No.10528591

>>10528549
if i were a potential investor in your idea i would like to be shown some evidence of your claims including references, blueprints, hell even patents if you have any. i'm not doubting your integrity but i am having some serious doubts about your involvement in these events. if i were a potential investor of course.

>> No.10528609

>>10528591
If I were Gary, I would say that the website will be finished and running sometime today at www.optimuminstitute.org, and you can contact Gary through the contact form there. Cheers

>> No.10528619

>>10528609
if i were a potential investor i would thank you for taking the time to field inquiries from the community and continue waiting on further developments but still not be inclined to spend a dime until i know what i'm backing. also cheers :)

>> No.10528625

>>10528591
Contact form is now live at The Optimum Institute. You can contact Gary here: https://www.optimuminstitute.org/contact

>> No.10528629

>>10528619
>https://www.optimuminstitute.org/contact

Investors are backing Gary's patent on a "3D spreadsheet". Implications go much deeper than that. What investors are backing, essentially, is "the matrix".

>> No.10528646

>>10528619
Gary's blueprint is essentially for the wealthiest company in the history of humanity. So wealthy it cannot even be compared to company's of the past. Watch Gary's 2.5 hour "philosophy of Optimum Theory" video on the website to get a better understanding. Wealth is about creating gates of entry. And there is one gate in particular that would make he wealth generated by the iPhone look like a plaything, like a fucking toy, and the wealth generated by the iPhone look like change found under a mattress. Gary would point out that "money" is simply an abstraction of value. And that creating a wealthy company is simply a measure of how much value has been given to our species. And Gary wants to contribute as much value as he can to better human happiness, health and success. This is what Gary would say.

>> No.10528661

>>10528475
EUCLIDEAN, NIGGER
IT NEEDS TO BE EUCLIDEAN

>> No.10528662

>>10528619

Gary would say that here is an excerpt from the complete 2.5 hour Optimum Theory video to help people understand:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfw0O0vGztY

Gary would also point out that the time between the first Wrights Brothers' flight and the moonlanding was half-a-lifetime, and that naysayers and those who use words like "impossible" are losers.

>> No.10528707

>>10528493
Ready

https://github.com/GollyGang/ready

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Can a brother get a quick rundown?

>> No.10528866

>>10528662
>and that naysayers and those who use words like "impossible" are losers.
that is tru

>> No.10529082

Website is almost done, and I am rewatching the video explaining how the automaton works, and I doubt even 1 in 100 will be able to recreate it even after watching me explain it in depth for an hour. I think people will realize pretty quickly why I say just to accept the central premise that the Universe is a fluid. But if you are able to recreate the automaton based on my extensive and detailed explanation, that's great! 99 of 100 will listen to the explanation and say "this guy is crazy" even though they can see the automaton with their very eyes, and how it manifests the 4 forces. For half the United States it is easier to accept a 6,000 year old Earth than to learn how evolution works and this is WAY harder than that. Even "educated" people won't get it.

-

>> No.10529086

But the 1% who do get it are going to say, "holy shit!" and the caliber of those people will be extraordinary. Should be a lot of fun.

>> No.10529141

>>10529082
Gary God damn It
You put something in excel to get it do that
What did you put? What is the rule?
This is not sounding good.

>> No.10529157

I love this site. Usually I get kicked off a site as soon as they figure out how dominant I am, so this is dope af . I alway feel like I'm walking on egg shells in fear of the slightest "microaggression" because meatspace hates dominance these days. They try and weed out any leadership ability or assertiveness as quickly as possible. US is going to get absolutely plowed by china if nothing changes

>> No.10529162

>>10529141

Everything you have seen is real. It is in Excel. No tricks. Just the thinking required to understand why and how it works is a lot. Engineering types will get it.

>> No.10529163

>>10528800
>chris langan bows to gary
>in contact with cellular automata machine elves
>possesses enlightened NEET abilities
>controls physical simulations with an iron but fair fist
>owned the global academic community
>direct descendant of based ashkenazim jews
>will bankroll revolutionary research into his Optimum Theory (the big bang will be the first simulation)
>owns 100% of cellular automata which unites the four fundamental forces
>first correct simulations of the universe will in all likelihood be gary's automata
>said to have 144+ IQ, such modesty on earth has only existed deep in tibetan monestaries and mr. roger's neighborhood
>ancient judeo-christian scriptures tell of one man who will descend upon earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress
>he owns a monopoly on cosmological simulation around the world
>you likely have cellular automatons inside you right now

>>10529157
4chan is a place for dysfunctional friends my man

>> No.10529167

You just really have to commit to the idea. I feel the same way when trying to understand neural nets. Go watch a youtube video of how a neural net works, it's bonkers. I figured it out eventually but took a long time

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10529180

>this thread

>> No.10529185

The rule is literally just energy / space. Seriously. SERIOUSLY. When you hear the explanation you will understand. But understanding why energy / space manifests as all reality is a hell of a mind fuck. People think they are pretty desensitized these days, but unified physics is as much a mind fuck to contemporary thought as Darwinian evolution must have been in its time. Optimum Theory is not like this string theory 11 dimention bullshit that you can just brush off. When you hear the explanation for Optimum Theory it will register at a deep level. You will KNOW that it is right, even though everything you have ever heard has said otherwise almost to an inverse degree.

Imagine during Darwin's age thinking you are some celestial being made in God's image and then you read with perfect logic how you are actually a filthy ape, and the logic is so pure that it cannot just be dismissed even if you say otherwise you will know at a deep level that your words are lies.

It's like that, you filthy apes.

>> No.10529192

>>10529163

Dope! I love it

>> No.10529200

The 1 hour Optimum Theory automaton build video and 2.5 hour "philosophy" video will be live in approx 3 hours at the website below. Watching the "philosophy" video is strongly encouraged for understanding the build video because the logic behind how and why the automaton works is unlike everything you have been taught about how the Universe works, and yet you can see with you own eyes through the automaton that it does, in fact, work:

www.optimuminstitute.org

I will update here when finished

>> No.10529215

>>10529162
But, you don't have to have a long explanation
There's a formula you entered to make excel do that. What is the formula?

>> No.10529218

>>10529200
Stop trying to tie it to the universe
I don't care about if it lines up with reality
I just want the simulation first
Can address how realistic it is after that.

What. Is. The. Rule? What is the formula that implements E/S?

>> No.10529224

>>10529215
>>10529218
He wont tell you unless you pay 99$ lol

>> No.10529226

>>10529224
I'm pretty concerned that $99 or free, I still won't have the actual formula, just a bunch of cultish philosophy instead.

>> No.10529237

>>10529226

You will 100% get the rule, equation and build instructions, and I take back what I said earlier. It's not that difficult to understand, only one part is challenging but even then it's just the equation driving the layer and the concept itself is very simple. Will be finished soon

>> No.10529242

>>10529226

The only culty bits in the video are those two clips I made public: the one about mind uploading / death and the part explaining the ethics of the Optimum Institute. Everything else is very on point and ground as concerning unified physics, abiogenesis, consciousness and AGI. Actually the bit concerning "the hard problem of conscious" will probably be the most grounded, logical and non-mystical explanation you have ever heard, and I even go into the driving algorithms behind it using references from neural networks.

Only reason for the "culty bits" are because, frankly, a company / institution should have a solid ethics policy beyond just "don't be evil" and Google even took THAT out when they rebranded as Alphabet, and because I don't want to see my father die, and I figure I have 20 years to figure out mind uploading before then.

Cheers

>> No.10529256

>>10529237
Can you just like export the excel file?

>> No.10529278

>>10529256
Nope. I want people who are driven to build this for themselves.The instructions are very detailed.

>> No.10529280

>>10529256

Legos don't come premade. You have to build them. That's part of the fun. And frankly, my Automaton is cheaper than a set of Legos, now that I think of it.

>> No.10529302

>>10529280
Ya but you know that the Legos you buy will be able to construct the thing they advertise to construct.

For all we know you'll just say "guess you need 140 IQ like me to figure how to build and use this automaton.

>> No.10529321

>>10529302

Do you honestly believe I would spend (over a week has it been?) on this forum just to make one sale and have the guy report back to you all that it's a fraud? No, I am expecting a domino effect after people realize that this is legit af.

>> No.10529333

>>10529302
Furthermore I go out of my way to explain it so that anyone can understand. I'm not like these theoretician who try and obfuscate things. There is only one really tricky part and I am going back and revising that now so that it's easier to understand.

>> No.10529455

still up, still working. Soon! -G

>> No.10529469

>>10529455
If I give you $99 do I get access to the excel file?
That's all I want Garry

>> No.10529479

>>10529469
No. You have to build it for yourself. It's like LEGOs. The build video is very detailed and will show you how the automaton works inside and out with explanations for why it works as well. The build video is entertaining to watch in its own right, even if you decide not to follow the instructions, and the instructions are very simple. I went back and revised the one confusing part that I referenced earlier in this thread. Furthermore, once you purchase you can always ask me questions. The site has its own message board and contact form.

>> No.10529481

>>10529469
I will answer questions very directly for members, not like how I "beat around the bush" here on 4chan

>> No.10529568

>>10529455
As a curious but financially struggling person it is hard to justify spending money on your theories. If I were to buy in, could I expect to use your system to help my family?

>> No.10529571

>>10527835
>tfw no Biode bf

>> No.10529586

>>10529479
>You have to build it for yourself
Why?
>>10529481
>I will answer questions very directly for members, not like how I "beat around the bush" here on 4chan
Why?

>> No.10529614
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10529614

Even if it turns out to be bullshit, you can't deny we got some good ass memes out of this.

Garry and Jerry fighting each other to create the ultimate theory of reality with the power of excel.

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10529624

>>10529614
>Even if it turns out to be bullshit

>> No.10529718

The Optimum Institute is officially LIVE! If you have any questions before or after joining, feel free to reach out here on 4chan or through the contact form on the Optimum Institute site! The URL is:

www.optimuminstitute.org

>> No.10529724

>>10529568
I don't want to act like this theory solves all your problems, but personally it has helped my family by making the craziness of existence easier to understand. In fact that is why I developed this theory: to help my son better understand the "life, the Universe & everything". -G

>> No.10529726

>>10529586

Why not? www.optimuminstitute.org

-G

>> No.10529729

>>10529614

Damn straight! And the site is now live (and no it's not bullshit)

www.optimuminstitute.org

>> No.10529735

New video walking through the whole Automaton!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0TmL9lDDv0&t=0s

Website is now live at www.optimuminstitute.org

>> No.10529766

>>10529479
Why wtf!?
That is just fucking dumb and screams again that YOU ARE A FUCKING CON MAN

>>10529726
Because its a dick move and nobody gives a fuck enough to waste their time on that

Stop lying
You.didnt fucking unify physics
But at least I want to fucking play with the thing you did make so just fucking send me the excel file you shit and prove you aren't a conman dickhead lieing asshole, if it actually looks like it has the 4 forces sure cool but I am fucking tired of this, just send the rule or we'll all feel confirmed that you are nothing more than a con man who learned a bit about cellular automata and thought he could trick idiots online into giving him $99.

You understand you are not some fucking savior, right now in everyone's eyes here you are almost certainly a conman with nothing real to show here. Your behavior around it is exactly like that of someone lieing and inventing new reasons why criticism is incorrect on the spot.
Maybe that isnt how it is, but God damn Gary you are doing all in your power right now to make everyone think there is nothing of interest here other than a slightly crazy guy maybe a conman maybe both. Prove us wrong and give me the excel file.

>> No.10529778

>>10527259
Lots of things start to look like fluids over large enough scales and long enough timescales and high enough forces. So yeah it probably looks like a fluid, but everything would look like a fluid with how they're observing it.

>> No.10529785
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10529785

Im waiting Gary.

>> No.10529799

Did Gary steal the idea from someone or is acting as a salesperson for someone else's idea? Nothing he's said throughout all 3 threads leads me to believe he has the knowledge set he claims (won't elaborate on results/interested peers, won't give out the rule for the automata, can't run it backwards). It screams of someone who got an idea from someone more /sci/g/-inclined. Hell he could be running videos of actual phenomena through a spreadsheet like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBX2QQHlQ_I

Gary, you claimed that you didn't care if someone took credit and published it anonymously because as long as humanity wakes up to optimum theory you're job is done. Yet won't even offer the rules that produce these results (after claiming that we would get it after paying $99). Peer reviewed study is the backbone of good science and if you can't set up a system that allows you to have this freely tested, don't bring it to the public. Jerry is offering the computing power you wanted, I don't see what the big deal is in cockteasing him this whole time.

>> No.10529809

>>10528502
https://backreaction.blogspot.com/2015/08/superfluid-dark-matter.html

Except this idea was proposed at least as early as 2015.

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10529826

>>10529799
yea, makes ya think

and as far as my processing power, pic related :)
just give me the excel sheet and we can make some progress!

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10529861

Calling it now: Jerry and Garry are the same person. Garry is pretending to be someone else who is at first skeptical, but finally gives in after reporting to have verified his model.

>> No.10529873

>>10529861
Holy shit good post

>> No.10529953

>>10529735
does the vector layer represent the difference between the current state and the last state
or do the cells have something like a velocity?

>> No.10530044

>>10529861
4d chess

>> No.10530077

I dont think this is actually from gary

>> No.10530078
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10530078

>>10530077
Oops forgot pic

>> No.10530239

>>10529809
>Except this idea was proposed at least as early as 2015.

Correct. I came to that conclusion about dark matter independently and only later learned that a few others had the same thought (and before I did). It happens.

>> No.10530245

>>10529873

I am nowhere near smart enough for something like that. -G

>> No.10530251

>>10529953

The former.

-G

>> No.10530277

>>10530078

That's fucking hilarious. No, that wasn't sent from me, Jerry. Also, I posted the latest video to r/physics despite my better judgement and God I just wish it was like 4chan and I could tell those cowards exactly what I think of them; they have the mods setup so that posters are just expected to accept people talking shit to them, and then the poster gets banned if talking back in the slightest. Well how THE FUCK are you supposed to defend an idea then? I am officially a 4chan stan after that shitshow of a subreddit

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10530284

>>10530078
Despite his immense IQ he barely knows how to use the internet, doesn't comprehend how anonymity works over it, can't into peer-reviews, made his automaton using Excel and made his website with Wix. I doubt he has the foresight and know-how to use a burner email. That being said, he is also very evasive and abrasive so it wouldn't totally surprise me.

>> No.10530323

>>10530284

Evasive and Abrasive is now the name of my new punk band. Thanks!

-G

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10530442

>>10530323
Suboptimal Theory would suit you better

>> No.10530452

>>10526760
>Time only has a forward direction

>> No.10530480

has someone made it run on a gpu yet so we can see animations?

>> No.10530518

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

>> No.10530575

>>10530518

This is just a way to suppress original thinkers.
And he misspelled "Einstein" in item 8, so I wouldn't take him too seriously.

-G

>> No.10530620

>>10530277
Have you tried https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoreticalPhysics/ or https://www.reddit.com/r/HypotheticalPhysics/ ?

/r/physics seems to be more about mainstream science news rather than discussing completely new theories.

>> No.10530624

>>10530452
I know you're not Gary so why are you defending him? There's no reason it shouldn't be able to run backwards. Obviously we won't know for sure until we get the equation but how hard could it be to rearrange it to work backwards?

>> No.10530628

>>10530624
not all cellular automata are reversible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton#Reversible

>> No.10530653

>>10530518
I think clearly 11, 19, 21, 26, 34, 36, 37 and probably more (skipping all countables). That should be at least 185 points. Criterion 7 alone would probably bring it up to at least 200.

>> No.10530659

>>10528502
I say this not to challenge you, but because I want to believe you and want others to believe you: prove it. Linked the archived thread, show the history of that idea being accepted. I’m skeptical you actually had the most commented post.

>> No.10530660

I'm the poorfag from earlier,
spend the $99 bucks and there isn't a single, one sentence summary available, or a single plug and play excel formula

scam, fake and gay, sage

>> No.10530667

>>10530660
he has customer support now, give it a shot

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10530673

>>10530660
He actually bought it.

>> No.10530685

>>10529082
LMAO Gary most everyone on this board could figure it out if you actually showed code. I garuantee what you did to make this work is well within the range of your average hobby coder.

>> No.10530742

>>10530685
Not to detract, I could prove the Pythagorean theorem to a middle schooler but that doesn’t mean they could come up with it.

>> No.10530750

>>10530660
no fucking wonder you're a poorfag

>> No.10530778

>>10530742
>Not to detract

>> No.10530812

>>10529735
i really liked your thought about objects being attracted to past states of each other. never thought about that. you have a lot of insights to share, although some would say they're not rigorous enough. i can see why you're looking to build an "institution" around your project.

i suppose we're still having trouble coping with the fact that you're simulating this using the "averages" of pos/neg energy, which is mathematically trivial. there seems to be some interesting emergent behavior here that we can't quite pinpoint the cause of. i think it's driving jerry up the wall a little, and for good reason. do we want to believe there's something deeper? admittedly i'm just a layman, an amateur programmer and math/physics enthusiast at best, so my expertise is not in this area at all. however i'd like to try implementing this idea and see if it can be used with certain quantum/relativistic parameters to get the expected results.

it looks interesting, that much is true. actually i'm the guy who has been making these threads, i want to know what comes of this and how it can be tweaked. physics is super complicated, you understand. you're a smart guy. you're technically literate. you know a thing or two about computational physics. however i'm sure something a lot of us have been waiting for is a sort of underlying derivation, since "U = E/S" is also too trivial to stand on its own without considering something like differential geometry for example.

>> No.10530845

FYI for those recreating he practically confirmed in his latest video that the automaton only runs on a single layer.

>> No.10530856

>>10530845
Yes, see >>10524726

>> No.10530862

Im so tired of this I just want to see it running for myself :/

>> No.10530936

What is "optimal" about "optimum theory?" All I see is a schizophrenic with a cellular automaton, and no justification for why that name was chosen.

>> No.10530960

>>10530856
I posted the comment before >>10524726
Now its almost for sure. This being said, Gary may have been right in his optimism that we would figure it out on our own, though I personally don't have the free time to solve this unnecessary mystery.

>> No.10531136

>>10530660
Gary, what do you have to say for yourself? Care to elaborate on this?

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10531176

>>10530660
That was pretty fucking retarded, but I got you bro
>Repost all the content on a new patreon with a $5 tier
>20 autists sign up and you get your money back
>They each make a new patreon and do the same thing at a $1 level
Thus creating a self sustaining economy

>> No.10531269

>>10530667

No, because he is lying. There have been no sales yet.

-G

>> No.10531290

>>10530620

I have tried Theoretical Physics. The mods are linked to r/physics

Fyi, The Mods already deleted the video walking through the whole simulation and banned my account from the sub, again. And again, I was as polite as can be. I think I just had to see for myself what a fraud this world is. Calling ME a fraud is one of the most hilariously ironic things ever. They sell $50,000 degrees teaching fake string theory, 11 dimension nonsense (while I teach true unified physics for $99) and they ask for 21 billion for a particle machine that is made obsolete by my $99 equation, and I'm the fraud. This World is not worth my effort. It does not deserve people like me, frankly. PRobably going to bounce here soon. I am sad to report that to you that this is not a Terry A. Situation. I am far too rich already and from far too well connected means to give af about a world that is not worth my time.

>> No.10531299

>>10530673

Nope. He's lying. No sales yet. -G

>> No.10531303

>>10530685

The CA already works. This world is a fraud, sadly. Decades from now I suspect that you all will realize that this was one of the truest things you ever saw. I'm not interested in sticking around for that. This world is not worth my effort, I think I just had to see it for myself.

>> No.10531322

>>10530812

Thank you for your kind words. Gives me a little bit of hope that this utter joke and fraud of a world is even worth being a part of. I still doubt I will stick around now... I suspect that my releasing this theory was my last attempt to prove to myself that what this world is devolving into was worth being a part of... My last attempt to try and "course correct" this nosedive of a nation. I have no interest in being a part of whatever "this" is. Take care.

>> No.10531325

>>10530936
>no replies

>> No.10531328

>>10531136

Yes, he is lying. No one has purchased a membership yet. This world is a joke and a fraud. They sell you degrees in fake string theory math for $50,000, and somehow I'm the fraud for selling a legit unified theory of everything for $99. I'm out bros. This world is not worth my time, and does not deserve people like me. Take care.

>> No.10531331

>>10531325

You all can think what you want. This world is not worth my time, or the effort of people like me. Take care.

>> No.10531337

you commiting sudoku, Gary?

>> No.10531340

>>10531325

The theory is called Optimum Theory because the fundamental behavior of particles is optimization (organization) through timesteps. This accounts for all the complexity we see around us, including ourselves. You all, honestly, would not understand as is becoming abundantly clear. This world is not worth my time. Take care.

>> No.10531344

>>10531337

Oh no, I care far too little about you all to kill myself over it. Simply not going to waste my resources attempting to give pearls to swine.

>> No.10531347

>>10531337
>you commiting sudoku, Gary?

I take it back. This was actually pretty funny. Fucking sudoku lol

>> No.10531355

>>10531322
>>10531328
there's still hope gary. evidently you've been under a lot of stress, overthinking, perhaps ignoring things in life you should be paying attention to instead of spending so much time on the internet. maybe you should take a break, go on a retreat, and come back with a fresh perspective. i know you want to save the world. it's fucked to shit and few people know that better than us. but i'm seeing all this... heh, "negative energy" in you right now, and it only seems to be getting worse. if there's anything you can do to take your mind off this for a while, i think that'd be best.

and i know we're asking a lot of you to explain and formalize and refactor your theory so we can understand it. you've done a lot so far, you've been working at it for a week just to give some nerds on 4chan a bit more insight into your discovery. i would donate in exchange for the time you've spent and nothing else, but you haven't even put up a paypal link yet!

anyway we'll always be here. if you don't end up leaving that's okay too. to me, it just looks like you might be forgetting to appreciate the little things in this world, no matter how evil and demented it is.

>> No.10531366

>>10531355
>anyway we'll always be here. if you don't end up leaving that's okay too. to me, it just looks like you might be forgetting to appreciate the little things in this world, no matter how evil and demented it is.

You might be right. Anyway, the paypal should be up. Is this not working? https://www.optimuminstitute.org/plans-pricing

>> No.10531368

>>10531340
I am a researcher in the area of numerical optimization and I am still not seeing the connection. What quanitity are you optimizing? What is your objective function?

>> No.10531381

>>10531366
yeah there's a paypal link for the $99 plan but you need a separate button on the site for donations of arbitrary amount

>> No.10531536

>>10531328
I made the troll post to generate replies and bump your thread. Relax.

>> No.10531602

>>10531366
How do I get access? You said I would get free access?

>> No.10531651

>>10531602

I have not figured out how to gift free access yet. And the way regulations with education institutions are setup there has to be some kind of wall that only allows "student" access. I've been saying this from the beginning. If I figure out how to gift free access I will let you know

>> No.10531716

>>10531651
why don't you just do a password protected link and then email me that and the password for it

>> No.10531717

>>10526329
Please just learn R or something and just reimplement your Excel code in that so the simulation actually has some degree of efficiency.

>> No.10531719

>>10531651
just put it on google drive or dropbox! there we go!

>> No.10531728

>>10528475
Careful or you might invoke something with that computational demonology.

>> No.10531744

>>10529141
I'm thinking navier-stokes. Try making a discrete simulation of the PDEs vector space

>> No.10531764

>>10531347
You're a cancerous newfag but I like you anyway

>> No.10531771

>>10531717
He was doing it in Python at some point

>> No.10531773

>>10531744
The Euler equations actually, since he talks about zero friction

>> No.10531787

>>10531773
Maybe this can help? Simulating PDEs with cellular automata
http://www.cse.csusb.edu/egomez/ref/p275-aberth.pdf

>> No.10531863

*eye roll* fine. I made Membership free. Let me know if there are any issues.

www.optimuminstitute.org

>> No.10531865

Login, and then click on "complete course" and the full explanation for the automaton is the first video there.

>> No.10531871

Here, I'll make it even easier for you:

https://www.optimuminstitute.org/the-complete-optimum-theory

>> No.10531875

And I'd better see more memes about how based Optimum Theory is. That's how you pay me.

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10531885

>>10531871
>>10531875
never forget the 21 billion euros
i'll get to watching these
thank you sir

>> No.10531901

>>10531303
Gary, you've never been on 4Chan before this, so you clearly aren't able to see that people are greatly interested. You have strung us along for three threads and people still wait to see whats behind your automaton. 4Chan has mods too, and things they don't like, and scams baits and fakes are some of those things we don't like, yet we are tolerating you, despite you giving the signals of all three of those things.

If you don't think that means we have faith in you then its you who are wrong.

>> No.10531912

Part 2 of the 2.5 hour Complete Optimum Theory video is reuploading. So that will not be up for around an hour or so. But the 1 hour Automaton build video, and Part 1 "The Complete Optimum Theory: The Foundation of the Universe" is there. Part 2: The Complete Optimum Theory, The Origin & Purpose of Life, will be available soon; and that is by far the more exciting part and includes abiogenesis, consciousness and artificial general intelligence. Seriously, as much as you all have geeked out over this automaton, the abiogenesis video is where it's at.

>> No.10531917

>>10531901

Thank you. That means a lot. I had a rough day today.

Here are the videos (Part 2, Abiogenesis needs to reupload and will be available in hopefully an hour) complete automaton build video and part 1: the foundation of the Universe, are both there now.

https://www.optimuminstitute.org/the-complete-optimum-theory

>> No.10531919

The thrusters are activated boys.

>> No.10531944

>>10531863
>>10531917
based Gary, this story will be told for generations

>> No.10531977

>>10531863
Watch his first video, I called it.
>>10531744
>>10531773
>>10531787

Seems like you really believe this and it's not a scam. I'm not a classically trained physicist but I definitely want to find out more about what you created here. I'll be starting building a model in C, tomorrow.

>> No.10531999

>>10531917
hey man, im not sure if what you found is really unifying physics, but I am sure that its pretty fucking cool. and who knows, if you're right ill look awfully dumb

>> No.10532035

>>10531863
Dark Forest hypothesis only works when the universe has scarcity, but you said right before that optimum theory predicts infinite lifetime and energy in the universe

>> No.10532040

>>10532035

correct. But that's like asking why humans still kill each other even though we have abundance.

>> No.10532070

Part 2, The Origin & Purpose of Life is now uploaded. It covers abiogenesis (the origin of life), the "hard problem of consciousness", the algorithms of consciousness, artificial general intelligence, basic income, mind uploading and more. Out of the whole project this is probably my favorite, even more so than the Automaton I built. It's a 1.5 hour video.

https://www.optimuminstitute.org/the-complete-optimum-theory

>> No.10532082

I added a donate button. Your help means a lot. I have dedicated over 20 years to this project .

https://www.optimuminstitute.org/the-complete-optimum-theory

>> No.10532123

>>10532082
>>10532070
Can you maybe upload them on youtube and have them as private unlisted videos? Should achieve same effect but youtubes vid player is better

>> No.10532124

>>10532123
>he's not locked into optimuminstitute.org and getting the full gary experience

>> No.10532129

>>10532123

Geez, Jerry. Ever hear of looking a gift horse in the mouth? lol. I actually paid for this website for us. Like, not only did I spend 20+ years putting this together, but I actually bought a website yesterday to stream it.

I will consider youtube, but not now.

>> No.10532130

>>10532124
I skipped forward in the vid and saw him actually explaining something he put into excel

Hope rising.

But its slow as heck to seek through the vid so youtube would be better IMO or vimeo, really any external vidyo player system instead of the wix built in thing

>> No.10532131

>>10532130
he doesn't need to meet any more demands. the video is definitive.

>> No.10532136

>>10532129
Eh man its taken while to get here, Im just trying to optimize the situation, it would be nicer if the video player was higher quality

Im happy seeing at least you seem to really explain the excel sheet maybe. I was gonna skip all the stuff of you talking about yourself and go straight to the equation but I cant skip through the vid without it freezing. So I have to watch you talk about how IQ tests say youre a genius while I wait :/

>> No.10532137
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10532137

Ooh at least it plays in mini player so I can just have it alongside

Oh boy I think youre about to get into it!
Thank you Gary, I'm hopeful!

>> No.10532147

On this blessed day Gary truly is the most based individual on 4 channel

>> No.10532150

>>10532147
Even if its all bullshit, yes

>> No.10532156

Just activated my third eye after understanding the equation, gonna ascend now.
Thanks gary.

>> No.10532162

so did anyone watch the entire thing? what's the consensus?

>> No.10532177

>>10532162
wait for people to sleep on it. better yet wait for people to code it themselves.

>> No.10532193

>>10531863
This took a lot of courage, Gary. Well done.

>> No.10532199
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10532199

>>10532162
I'm busy. Not through the whole vid, trying to code it as you explain it

>> No.10532206

reminder: this thread is satire

>> No.10532217

>>10532206
reminder its not

>> No.10532221
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10532221

>>10532206
lol

>> No.10532231

still waiting for a phys.org news release on this
i guess it's never coming...

>> No.10532235

From the bit I've watched so far, it seems the rule is this:

For each cell, find the average of it and the 8 cells surrounding it to determine the cell's next value.

This seems to be what he meant by energy over space. The number in each cell is the 'energy', and the number density of cells is 'space'.

>> No.10532239
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10532239

>>10532231
on the off chance this isn't bullshit thats why I'm taking the time to actually code this out
if this is legit, this guy seriously needs help to get taken seriously from someone who isn't blinded by ego

I'm not quite getting the expected behavior yet

>>10532235
that was the base but he goes on to explain its the direct neighbors (up/down/left/right) considered as single units of space and the diagonal ones as half units, and then random noise modulated by the center cell added as well, finally divided by a number between 7. and 8.
here's what I have so far

>> No.10532244

>>10532239
>mfw I just realized that your pic is the entire universe and it shows how more and more stars go out as time and entropy increase
Fuck this shit could really win a nobel prize

>> No.10532250

>>10532235
The 8 cells surrounding it are arbitrary and a convention of the geometry of the grid. What really needs to be averaged is the distance circle surrounding each space-density point.

>> No.10532251
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10532251

Gary any pointers, am I in the right direction? I feel like I missed something and made a mistake.

Also sorry I can remove previous post if it tells too much I just thought and realized maybe you'd consider that "spilling the beans" on the rule

>> No.10532252

>>10532244

Holy shit imagine if 4Chan won a nobel! It would be the ultimate proof of the hivemind in action

>> No.10532269
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10532269

Dunno if I'm on the right track but its interesting to look at

>> No.10532272

ITT: People sit and play with their custom made art-projects and gasp at the results as if it were something revolutionary.

>> No.10532281
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10532281

>>10532272

>> No.10532282
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10532282

>>10532272
lol yea

I'm not under the illusion I'm dealing with anything unique yet. I've played around with this exact same ruleset before just by chance, playing with averaging and noise.

I'm pretty much waiting for Gary at this point.

Gary in some spots in the vid the Randbetween value is 0 instead of 1000, whats going on there?
It seems to be a bit much noise, and it makes symmetry fall apart. Hmmmm

>> No.10532287

the sheer fact that noone of you calls it by its name: cellular automata, tells me you are nothing more then kids memeing

let the grown ups to the research

>> No.10532288

>>10530660
lol you are the low bottom tier of intelligence, go back to school pronto or you will lose much more than 99$

>> No.10532289

>>10532251

You can spill the beans. It's fine.

>> No.10532293

>>10532251

Based on what I know from my version of the automaton, if you make the number of your space-density smaller then the "quantum foam" should start to clump. Not a lot smaller. The domain is within 1. So if you divide by, say, 8, then it will be static like that, but if you divide by, say 7.125, then it will clump. The closer to 8, the better waves propagate, and the closer to 7, the better energy-pressure clumps. There is a nice median inbetween. I am still trying to figure out why this is exactly, and my best explanation is that the number represents scale, but I could be wrong, and feel free to correct me if you think of a better explanation.

>> No.10532295

>>10532269
Looks like the right track to me!

>> No.10532297

>>10532282
The randbetween is essentially the intensity of the quantum foam. When it is set to zero then there is no quantum foam, and it is easier to input your own values

>> No.10532300

>>10532287
What are you talking about? We have been calling it cellular automata repeatedly. It's in every video, "cellular automata".

Furthermore, that is the plural, so you should be referring to Jerry's program as an automaton.

>> No.10532302

>>10532287
that was so two threads ago

>> No.10532303

>>10532287

Not only have we repeatedly been calling it a cellular automata / automaton, but I hope everyone sees this post I have linked, because this is exactly what I was talking about in the video when I said, "try finding the answer to unified physics and see how these academics will respond to you". This is exactly what I am talking about. When did we become a nation that stifles the pursuit of knowledge? When exactly did that change happen? When exactly did we become a nation where it is more acceptable to be a lean drinking tattoo faced drug addict than someone who attempts to better themselves through self-driven education? Because, if we keep it up, there are plenty of other nations waiting to take our leadership spot.

>> No.10532307

Fuck I wish I was this sort of schizo. I spend my time diligently working through textbooks day after day knowing that I'm not a genius and will never contribute anything of value to the scientific or mathematical world. Everything is laid out in front of me. Everything has been pondered by minds much smarter than my own. I walk a path trodden by countless others, and my journey will end where theirs began. I want to believe that I'm onto something, that what I'm doing is valuable, that I'm somehow unlocking the secrets of the universe, that there's some grand scheme to conspire against me while I research away in reverie: an isolated madman against the world, so sure of his own understanding and results that not even total rejection by the whole scientific and mathematical community would stop me. It's unfair bros. The best I can do is trudge on my own bleak, well-traveled path. Just know that I'm rooting for you, schizo posters. Whether you're building an OS from scratch, or creating a CA to model the universe... I'll be rooting for you.

>> No.10532308
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10532308

>>10532287
we've been all saying that all along what are you talking about


>>10532297
huh, I'm getting it just decaying with lower values, pic related. Concerned I'm not calculating it correctly

>> No.10532320

>>10532308

Honestly the methods I use in the video are unimportant. You can use your own methods. The underlying principle is to average the energy by the space. e / s. positive and negative numbers are necessary to create divisions between particles. The space must simulate infinity through wraps to contain the energy and prevent it from leaking out of the system. It's best for the calculations to be done simultaneously since sequential calculation distorts the results.

>> No.10532321

>>10532308
Now you are dividing by too much, I believe, and the energy is just getting sucked right out of the system. If the model was 3d and infinite then we would be able to track that energy better and folllow it while it optimizes

>> No.10532325

>>10532308

But I'm seeing sparks there. Those are sparks of the big bang. It's very cool!

>> No.10532327

>>10532308

When Elon Musk talks about the inevitability of the simulation, he is talking about us. These are the begging stages. Time between Wright brothers first flight and the moon landing was half-a-lifetime

>> No.10532330

*beginning stages. Anyway, I'm getting shut eye. I want to see Neo walking around in there when I wake up, Jerry!

>> No.10532337

>>10532307

That was beautiful. Thank you.

>> No.10532409
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10532409

>listening to optimum theory lectures
>drawing my ex cuz fuck i miss her
>ex calls me out of nowhere
>have been talking to her for the past 5 hours
Is this Optimum Theory manifesting my dreams in reality???

>> No.10532414

>>10532409
you are awakening
good job anon
soon all will be clear

>> No.10532416

>>10532239
The question is, if you applied this equation of averages (e / s) to an infinite grid, what would the rule be? You don't have to use my rule. The equation e/s is not calculable. The Universe is not reproducible because it is infinite. BUT what is the best rule to approach that equation. All we can do is approach it. Like approaching a mathematical limit. The geometry, the scales... it is all debatable. The number of space-density / energy-pressure. It's all debatable. I don't care what rules are used, or the methods. I only want to see the universe simulated from a unified principle

>> No.10532422

>excel does not calculate simulatneously
>it has to be in parallel, so we are parallel processing
>that way the calculations don't distort the results
>that was a breakthrough I had on the way to unified physics

OH NO NO NO this man literally reinvented buffers using excel

>> No.10532426

>>10532409

Maybe lol. There is this girl I know, she was a nuthouse. Completely crazy. Been in an institution even, and not like the Optimum Institute. She wanted to see the complete Optimum Theory video, so I showed it to her. This was a few months ago. She has been completely different since, straightened out and normal. She said, "I just understand everything now".

>> No.10532428

>>10532422

Yeah. That's why I need help with the programming lol.

>> No.10532433

>>10532426
based gary turning crazy bitches sane

>> No.10532434

>>10532416
By the way Gary, I'd suggest using a tripcode, so people can identify you throughout the board.

>> No.10532439

>>10532434
fine

>> No.10532455

>>10532426
In all honesty though it was a weird coincidence. But I like to find meaning in coincidences so thank you for being a part of a strange random blip in reality that just made my life far better than it was just a few hours ago.

>> No.10532457

>>10532439
Fake Gary spotted

>> No.10532461

>>10532455
How did the picture turn out? Can we see?

>> No.10532480
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10532480

>>10532461
It's just cartoony stuff, was making a webcomic and began sketching characters that looked like her .u.

>> No.10532483

>I've been working on this for 20 years. This will finally make me rich and famous

2 days later...

>fuck it here's my entire work for free

yeah right I totally think this is legit

>> No.10532500

>>10532483
in all fairness i see how great a teaching tool this could be. imagine a classroom full of kids playing with physics simulations. they don't understand all that crazy bell theorem shit, they don't know what neutron stars are. but they can understand the nature of entropy and wave-particle whatever the fuck by playing with something as unique as gary's deceptively simple automata. what if you were teaching a child about CMBR? about photons? it sounds ridiculous. but i really think these are the kinds of things you could teach others about much more easily than traditional educational methods. the common man doesn't have time for that. feynman understood this. he wanted the common man to understand the beauty of nature.

it's imminently intuitive. it works. the parameters are easy to manipulate. he said it himself in the black hole video - setting the energy to -777 resulted in some very interesting behavior.

i think he's definitely onto something. whether or not it is a breakthrough in cosmology and UFT proper i'm not entirely sure about. but this is valuable. it has infinite potential as-is.

>> No.10532503

>>10532439
gtfo tripfag

>> No.10532548

>>10532480
Oh god why did I post this Gary I'm so fucking drunk

>> No.10532611
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10532611

>> No.10532681

Hey Gary if you are here.
Can you do simulation on sound and gravitation stuff ?
All your video are about electro-magnetic.
there are some article about sound has negative mass.

>> No.10532836

>>10531863
Have you played the game Soma? Your idea that "true uploading", ie continuation of the same phenomenal entity is possible if the biological subject is killed the same time as the digital subject is activated, is very similar to the theory one of the characters in Soma holds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS4T0WkRlVc

I think the twin paradox shouldn't make you take this stance, I think it should make you reconsider the entire framework in which you're thinking about this in the first place. There is no logical reason why whether the biological brain is alive or not, should affect the digital copy in any way, unless you're proposing some weird Cartesian Dualism, and some elaborate natural system that automatically swap souls between bodies that are compatible.

To really truly know what happens when we teleport or upload, we need to first know the solution to the hard problem of consciousness.

Maybe upload isn't contingent on information being the same, but instead on the brain as a whole process being uninterrupted. If the brain sort of gives rise to consciousness in an emergent way, then it's not the identity of any of the parts that's important, it's that the whole keeps going. In the case of the natural, gradual replacement of atoms in our brain, this wouldn't be a problem for this view, yet for teleporting or uploading, there's an abrupt stop.

If this view is correct, then there is another option for upload: Gradual upload. You replace your neurons one by one in the brain by silicon chip counterparts. After one neuron replacement, the new one performs the same function as the old one, and thus the whole keeps going. Keep replacing until they are all silicon chips, and you have now uploaded with the same phenomenal identity intact.

>> No.10532848

>>10532308
Are you using Ready for cellular automata simulation? I'm compiling it right now to see if what I can do about replicating Gary's ruleset.
Doing in on-gpu seems like the best way to implement this.

>> No.10532855
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10532855

Reminder.

>> No.10532866

>>10532855
walmart ruffalo

>> No.10532897
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10532897

Her Gary, can you make these videos available for download? When the academic deep state eventually come to shut down any trace of your work, it's gonna be hard for them if we all saved your videos.

Godspeed based Gary.

>> No.10532964

>>10532897
Not Gary, but I have them downloaded just in case. Just view the network logs in the browser debug tools and copy the link to the m3u8 files.
Then use ffmpeg to download the m3u8 stream to an mp4 file.

>> No.10532984

Gary, you're idea of only thinking about the perimeter of the cell, thereby simulating internal space is brilliant. But that leads to the question il of why you are using 1/2 to model corners and averaging, when in reality is we are approximating a cubical pressure on the edge of each cell, then the corners really only need to average an infinitesimal amount, and thus you can just discard them in the averaging step.

Think of the next time step as a just slightly larger cell averaging into the cells around it (and vice versa). That slightly larger cell would just barely touch it's corners into the surrounding four corner cells.

>> No.10532996

>>10532964
Is there a way to get links to all the files without watching through the entire video?

>> No.10533040

>>10532996
You only need the first m3u8 link. It links to all the subsequent fragments. ffmpeg will automatically stitch it together.

>> No.10533096

>>10533040
What command do I use?

>> No.10533104
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10533104

>>10524491
Reminds me of something

>> No.10533114
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10533114

>>10532848
I'm doing it directly on GPU as a fragment shader

>>10532321
Only dividing by a number between 7 and 8
Maybe if you check my implementation
from what I understand it is
(u+d+l+r+(ur/2)+(ul/2)+(dr/2)+(dl/2)+(randbetween(self-1000,self+1000)))/7.125

Also I don't have randbetween really, I have a random function giving values between 0 and 1, so I subtract 0.5 from that, and then multiply it by 2000 (or 0 or anything else) and add that to selfcell. As far as I can tell that gives the same result mathematically but maybe I'm missing something
when I have it at 1000 I get random noise, as expected, but at 0.5 or less it just decays and reaches equilibrium at 0, pic related

>> No.10533155

>>10533096
ffmpeg "m3u8 link" -c copy video.mp4

>> No.10533162

Posting on a legendary thread. I would start playing around with the simulation but I have an exam tomorrow so i won't start til after that.
Gary how many people have "purchased" memberships?

>> No.10533214

>>10533114
might this be the eye of god?

>> No.10533229

>>10532320
simulating infinity through wraps means you are using periodic boundary conditions in normal physics/math language?
Is the simulation large enough so that correlations between each cell and itself are essentially zero? While I'm not sure that is an issue in your theory (still need to watch ur new videos) it is intuitively quite unphysical.
I'm busy today but might investigate some of these things later this week.

>> No.10533249

>>10533229
>intuitively quite unphysical
Huh?
What does that mean?

>> No.10533280

>>10533249
Say you had a system with very long range, like 100 cells in distance, interactions (I know this one doesn't) and were using periodic boundary conditions. If your simulation wasn't large enough, say a 10x10 grid, each cell would interact with itself. This wouldn't happen in reality because there is no wraparound.
To go a little further, in this simulation each cell affects the state of the cells adjacent to it, these states of these cells should be correlated to one-another, similarly you could probably find correlations between cells 2,3,4,...,etc spaces away even though the equation doesn't have them interacting with one another.
What I'm wondering is whether or not there are self-correlations between each cell, ie if you walked from one cell all the way around and back to the original cell would you see the a correlation. I'm not sure I'm doing a great job of explaining this but I hope you get the idea.

>> No.10533286

>>10533229
In his video he explains the cells interact with themselves to simulate infinite hierarchical depth by treating the energy pressure number of each cell as a "boundary" with forces acting both externally and internally on said boundary.

Since a true simulation is not computable, due to infinite depth being required, the internal boundary interaction is just a randomly generated number, thus simulating "random" energy bubbling from the quantum foam.

>> No.10533294

>>10533280
>>10533286
Oh wait, I see what you are saying. With a suffiently large enough grid, any such correlations would become statistically insignificant.

>> No.10533333
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10533333

I tried to recreate what Gary did as much as possible.
Pic related is with noise = 1000, "scale" = 7.125, and with filtering

>> No.10533335
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10533335

>>10533333
hey I got quints!

And pic related is without filtering

>> No.10533340

>>10533333
blessed

>> No.10533341

GARRY v BARRY v JERRY
place your bets

>> No.10533359

>>10533335
Looks like the CMB

>> No.10533445
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10533445

>>10533335
>>10533333
huh, I can't quite seem to get the same behavior
Does my method of adding the noise work do you think? I explain it in >>10533114

>> No.10533492

>>10533445
I have it set up so that the maximum value in the grid always corresponds to the maximum value of the colormap
So I basically scale all the values in the grid to match the colormap

Example:
If the color map goes from -100 to 100, and at a certain moment the maximum value present in the grid is 20,
then I multiply all the values in the grid by 5 (only for displaying, not for the simulation).

>> No.10533527
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>>10533492
Thanks for the tip though I don't think I can apply it as is. Its directly on GPU and to implement anything assessing the entire texture each frame would be a big performance cost. Later on I can maybe do display through CPU and then doing such a thing would be easy, but I don't think thats the issue here. I can manually adjust for time being

I did find one issue in that the randomness function I was using was biased to positive values. Fixed that, and now with fresh seeded noise it stays neutral instead of slightly hot.

The gif in last post was just with noise at 1, at 1000 its like this. This is what I mean by different behavior lol, way more fuzzy

>> No.10533534

>>10533527
Use a compute shader for more flexibility instead of a fragment shader. What version of OpenGL are you using in your program?

>> No.10533620

>>10533534
I'll look into it, for the moment I just want to figure out what I'm doing wrong with the calculation of it.
and 3.0

>> No.10533666

>>10533527
oh, I don't know what it is then
here is my python code if you want to have a look:
https://pastebin.com/TNwm7zKa

>> No.10533702

>>10533155
Meh, my ffmpeg keeps getting stuck. Same thing that happens when I use youtube-dl.

Do you know of any fixes to this? Is there a param that auto-restarts when it gets stuck?

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10533768

>>10533666
cool thanks satan
haven't used matplotlib in awhile...how do I output the animation like you've done? its going a bit slow and I don't think its because I lack the hardware

>> No.10533770

>>10533768
>>10533666
oh and what version of python are you running?

>> No.10533830

>>10533770
I outputted it by adding "a.save('title.gif', writer='imagemagick', fps=20)"
>>10533770
3.7.0

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10533892

>>10533666
Thank you very much, Sir! Going to fiddle with this tonight!

>> No.10533900

>>10532836
You're looking for Persistence of Mind

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10533905

>>10533830
cool!

>> No.10533906

>>10532239
Imagine looking into a young universe, with a sky absolutely full of sparkling stars.

>> No.10533983

Writing this in opencl. I'll make a git repo when I've got a minimum viable solution. Contributions are very welcome.

>> No.10534080

I looked at the pasted code. How are the weights of neighboring cells going to change as you go into higher dimensions?

>> No.10534087

>>10534080
My guess is that it will be 1,1/2,and 1/4 in three dimensions? Like it will just depend on the number of corners connecting each one

>> No.10534099
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10534099

400x400 cells run for about 15000 iterations
scale is 7 + 9.5e-7
started with all zeros, everything was generated from quantum foam

going to try to make some filters for it

>> No.10534107
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10534107

>>10534099
continued to 32000 iterations. my quantum foam might have a bias because of integer calculations
(rand() - (RAND_MAX / 2)) * 0.1

>> No.10534147

MIGRATE:
>>10534146

>> No.10535039

>>10532500

THANK YOU! This in particular means the world to me

>> No.10535040

>>10532548

Wat? It's great! It's even in the new video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyukG6W_1U0

>> No.10535042

>>10532548

Also, I was just joking about taking her to a Powerline concert. She's all yours

>> No.10535046

>>10535040
>>10535042
Dude I'd be honored if you took her out lmao

>> No.10535047

>>10532681

Gravity is already in the sim. And I did not know that about negative mass sound... interesting. I will look it up!

>> No.10535052

>>10532836

Gradual upload theory is in the Optimum Theory video The Origin & Purpose of Life. It's near the end.

https://www.optimuminstitute.org/the-complete-optimum-theory

I am struggling with these ideas myself. Like a dog trying to learn calculus or trying to grab hold of water...

My reasoning is that the Universe is indivisible, and by pure logic recognizes overlap of similar neural networks. Consciousness is simply then continuity of thought no matter the medium.

>> No.10535058

>>10532836


Hard problem of consciousness is also covered in the video. I go pretty deep into the reasoning. The video is called "The Origin & Purpose of Life" Consciousness talk starts somewhere in the middle.

https://www.optimuminstitute.org/the-complete-optimum-theory

>> No.10535061

>>10532855

No you are going to forget if you only put it on the polaroid! You have to tattoo it on our forehead like I say in the video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyukG6W_1U0

>> No.10535064

>>10532897
I will consider that. There are edu regs that might require it to be walled in a single place.

>> No.10535068

>>10532984

Yes, but in the real universe the base unit is not cells, it's distances. So ideally the "cell" is actually a distance circle. "Smoothlife" (a program) has done impressive work in this domain and we can learn a lot from that program

>> No.10535073

>>10533162

I decided not to sell Membership. It's all donation based now. Cheers

>> No.10535076

>>10533333
Amazing!

>> No.10535078

>>10533335
Wow! That's cool!