/sci/ - Science & Math

>>12277948
A form of mental retardation LOL

>>12277948
extreme anti psychopathy

>>12277948
>What is autism?
evolution during times of trouble.
>pandemics.
most you normies will off yourselves by year 2.

The most basic and general definition I can give you is that it's a neurological condition that stifles your ability to communicate with others (or other people's ability to communicate with you) in some way.

a pseudodisease created to get funding, much like adhd

>>12277970
>in some way
it takes away your social mask.
you fucking fakes don't give a shit about the customer or neighbor or whatever.
but we are the retarded ones when we tell you to fuck off.

>>12277963
>be me
>jerk off
>look at anime girls
>watch anime with anime girls in it
>lift
>study whatever I want
>all day
>work remote
>never leave my house
>hear about chink flu on 4chins
>k wateevr
>it become a pandemic
>lock down
fuck! my life is so different now, how will I cope.
>>12277980
k retard
>>12277948
a common theme among autismos is their rituals.
they are super habitual.

>>12277963
Yeah we know they’re essentially survivalists. They say it’s an attempt at human evolution. A dice roll on a powerful but not yet stable gene. Some autistics are super extremely successful people. Autism merely is a positive trait and goes unnoticed in them.
If you were to think of evolution as a program... that’s what it’s trying to do.
To use an unstable and risky super powerful gene and roll the dice at possibly making a super human.... or the opposite. For times of big trouble our reproduction process takes big risks.


>>12277970
We know they have more empathy. They feel others feelings far stronger. Which is surprising.

A vague categorization for people who are “evolution-attempts” or “reproduced intentional mental mutations”.

>>12277997
>We know they have more empathy.
No, lack of empathy is a recurring symptom among ASD. Not for reasons attributed to sociopaths or terrible and such (which is a common misconception), but because the disorder makes it difficult for them to see and understand things from other people's POV (i.e.: empathy), which commonly muzzles effective communication skills.

>They feel others feelings far stronger.
That'd be more compassion than empathy if true. And even then, it sounds more like any other disorder where sensory sensitivity is a symptom. Which not only isn't exclusive to ASD, but only a valid one of ASD when consistent with other symptoms (and when concerned about what type of ASD we're talking about).

>>12278025
Semantics. Ever heard of mirror neurones?

>>12278031
>Semantics.
Red herring based on what seems to be questionable reading comprehension.

>Ever heard of mirror neurones?
Which are popularly theorised to be ineffective and/or consistently reduced in ASDs. Not to mention this is an overly specific and cherry-picked take on MNs, which are largely a broad functionality.

>>12277948
Sometimes it’s a legitimate disability, but in others it’s just what people on the far introverted end of the spectrum turn into when released from any trace of premodern social structures. In ye olden days these people were still loners, but the nature of the economy would make people dependent upon them and they on others to survive. Even if the autist couldn’t understand normie nonsense, their spergness would be held in check by mandatory religion so they wouldn’t go too far from the normie consensus and become too alienated, even if their interpretation was of s more eccentric bent. Autistic people raised in premodern environments would probably be better trained at socialization because making new friends was not really a necessary skill for most. No one would bat an eye at their living with their parents and arranged marriages would ensure they’d probably end up with someone eventually. In a few generations, our world transitioned from one where kinship and tradition was central to one where every single human interaction is voluntary and usually involves complete strangers. Charisma and making short term disposable friends is now the most important trait for survival, where once it meant almost nothing.
TL;DR Autists are sometimes legitimate handicapped mutants, but most of them are just the extreme end of the personality spectrum falling off into the abyss as the nature of our modern, urbanized society rewards high social skills above all else.

>>12278035
Psychopaths don’t lack empathy or emotions. They lack regulation.

>>12278057
a). That's relevant to another post, not this one. b). That post specifically mentions sociopaths (and the misconceived links between them and empathy), not psychopaths.

>>12278066

Different anon here. I think you’re taking a very narrow and limiting perspective on all this.

>>12278078
Not relevant, since that would be focusing on characterisation than substance.

>>12277997
>they have more empathy
You’re thinking of schizotypals who are usually afflicted with a similar retardation of social skills but for literally the opposite reason. They have so much empathy that they hallucinate conscious intent in everything. People always vaunt empathy as this great thing to have a lot of, but it makes schizotypals paranoid because they have pareidolia for facial expressions and hallucinate negativity where it doesn’t exist. While autists are less likely to commit crimes than normies, schizotypals tend to be more dangerous. High empathy makes them hypersensitive to any insult or emotional slight, where negative interactions create much more pain in them than they do in other people. Combine that with a paranoid tendency to hallucinate that people hate them who don’t and you have a recipe for someone sadistic who thinks killing you is an appropriate response to you being rude to them because they are hypersensitive and want you to hurt as grievously as they do. Schizotypals are like in a horror movie where people think the ghost haunting the house is of the angelic little girl who died there but they find out during the seance that it’s the terrifying demon who killed her. You might meet an aloof loner who you think is the childlike, NAIVE, and peaceful autist but in reality it’s the paranoid, vampiric, and controlling schizotypal. They have to control you because you have the ability to emotionally wound them so much, but they also want to be sadistic to get revenge on you, and their vengeance is always overkill. Approach at your own risk!

>>12278082

>Error beep boop.
I guess you won’t ever gain the increased self awareness from understanding the usefulness in what I said.

>>12278104
>Error beep boop
Now that's just a pure non-sequitur.

>I guess you won’t ever gain the increased self awareness from understanding the usefulness in what I said.
In order for that to happen, one must first actually say something useful.

>>12277948
What's with that slit shaved in eyebrow thing?

>>12277948
Mental retardation.

>>12277997
>They say it’s an attempt at human evolution. A dice roll on a powerful but not yet stable gene.
The problem with that roll, is that not so many autists have children themselves.

>>12277948
female autists are almost all being groomed into becoming ftm trannies

>>12278310
that's the point, the hypersuccessful ones do
sometimes they do shit like travel around africa and impregnate 2000 women

>>12278296
Scar I think? It's a pretty common area to accidentally hit on something.

autists are sociopaths, they lack empathy so talking with them is like talking to a rock, you are wasting your time

>>12278431
>>12278296
it's fashion

>>12278296
Looks like a childhood scar.

>>12277948
Autism is a mental disorder where people are able to focus on one thing longer than others.

>>12278415
Got some examples? This is unexpected.

>>12278489
The majority in our times has focus like a goldfish in a very tiny bowl.

>>12277997
Sounds like bullshit. Autists dont reproduce. Rebecca sealfon was spelling bee champ and went to my college. Her brain was a steaming pile of shit. Ive never met someone so stupid in my life who also thought she was talented. Everybody in my college was disgusted by her. Total trash.

Ppl who post on 4skin are actually less autistic than the avg normie. Wanting to communicate anonymously is the sign of a very socially evolved and healthy brain.

People afraid of places like 4skin are the true autists

>>12277948
Developmental disorder that makes people communicate and socialize abnormally. If socializing and conversation were a play, they're missing parts of the script.

>>12278644
>Everything I do is evolved and high IQ
>Everything others do is weak-minded and low IQ
Yeah, surely you're not autistic in the least.

>>12278085
Aside from the sadism stuff, you're kind of describing me and I'm scared. My response is usually just to withdraw and dissociate from people who I think hate me, and people point out that I read too far into intentions a lot of times. Am I actually a fucking schizo and not an autist like I always assumed?

>>12278712
On the schizophrenic spectrum probably. Schizophrenia and schizotypal are still two distinct disorders

>>12278589
Forrest Gump

>>12278589
>>12278415
The glorious French

>>12278808
>Forrest Gump
And he is a real life example?

>>12278838
And was this an autist?

>>12277948
who is this girl?

>>12278853
Only an autist would.

Autism is just mental deviation.
Of varying severity.
In any direction.

>>12278883

You could say that everyone has autism then? It’s true much of what normal people do is weird. “Normal” is just if lots of people do it. It means nothing more.

>>12278881
https://www.tiktok.com/@jay_will_float_too

>>12278883
>Only an autist would.
I am not so sure about that. The world is full of players, few of which are autists.

>>12277948
If that one on the left was really autistic she wouldn't have been able to throw together a perfect autistic Pippy Longstockings costume. She wouldn't look cute and adorable.

>>12279127
People treat men and women with mental illness differently

Bipolar woman
>She's so in tune with her environment.
>She feels all the negative energy

Bipolar man
>What a schizo.
>Probably going to kill someone.

Autistic woman
>Quirky, cute girl
>Innocent child with no bad intentions

Autistic man
>Loser nerd with no life
>A sociopath going to shoot up his workplace some day

Woman with depression
>Everyone has hard moments
>She must fight her demons

Man with depression
>Just man up, you stupid manchild.
>Go kill yourself. No one loves loser men like you anyway.

>>12279114
Players are extremely autistic

>>12279219
Be positive to see positive choices

After all, men have more testosterone so it’s not surprising

>>12279305
>Players are extremely autistic
Got a reference for that one?

>>12278085
What the fuck? Did I just find out that I am schizotypal? Why didn't my psychiatrist tell me?

>>12278085
I litet just googled schizotypal and what you sre describing isn't mentioned anywhere, this is pure bullshit. Reminder to never trust 4chan.

>>12277948

Duno man.

All I know that for an autistic person, a non-autistic person is the disabled or strange. Their behaviour is weird. But since we are the minority, we have to adjust to them.

We have to study them to gain a better understanding.

>>12279219
Need to treat them all like the subhuman animals they actually are.
If their brains are malformed then the part that defines human behavior is malfunctioning and wrong; can't be a human if you have gone too far from human baseline. Autistics of any sort are too bizzaro to be human like normies.

>>12278431
>>12278462
people do this to make it look like they have a scar, but she almost certainly doesn't

>>12277997
i thought lack of empathy was a requirement for autism. there are other "illnesses" for people who have empathy but fail to adjust to society.

>>12278085
i wouldn't really call it empathy if you read emotions incorrectly and see emotions in things that don't have emotions. empathy means you can accurately read emotions, at least in casual usage.

>>12279572
He's right. Read about or look at interviews of most pick-up artists. Only autists would approach something so instinctual and try to systemize it to the extent these people do. Most of the time it fails hilariously, but for the ones that succeed they basically end up gaming the system past what others would think possible.

>>12279756
>i thought lack of empathy was a requirement for autism.
I think it is clearer to say autists lack the ability to read others but not the desire to read others, and in fact get hurt if belatedly understand a bad mistake was made.
>there are other "illnesses" for people who have empathy but fail to adjust to society.
The worst kind are those who can read people but are so devoid of a moral compass they use this ability to exploit others. I have seen this, it is horrific.

>>12278632
Looked her up on Linkedin. Dog-like retard face, with a few accomplishments listed, but obvious attention whore. Was she really stupid, tho? Just curious if you could be more specific.

>>12277948
Autism can be a lot of things, but put simply, autism is a condition that causes whoever has autism to precevie the world differently than what other people may. Autists usually exhibit various traits, and may experience both advantages and disadvantages arising from their autism. Traits can be anything from difficulty picking up on social cues, hypersensitivity to noise and other distractions, easily getting obsessed over things (an autist may, for example, get really obsessed with marine creatures, and will learn everything there is to know about them), very literal thinking -- difficulty with abstraction, etc.

Autism can range from high-functioning to low-functioning depending on how severe it is. High-functioning autists are usually indistinguishable from normal people, and some may even be able to completely rid themselves of the negative traits associated with autism, while low-functioning autists need constant care and supervision, due to the severity of their autism rendering them unable to take care of themselves.

Autists come in all different varieties, and no one size fits all. In more recent times the term "autist" as become a substitute for "retard" and other slurs insulting a person's intelligence, usually by people who have little to no understanding about what autism actually is. The condition is much more complex that what I've described here, but it should give you a starting point in actually understanding what it is. Jordan Peterson has some good lectures on it if you're interested.

weird niggas, they chill tho.

I always had empathy but fuck I am so bad at reading people. It's not even that I actually can't read people, I can if I later think about a conversation, but while its happening my brain is going haywire and I'm bad at it. Flip side is that I am not prone to traditional reactions and good people readers will often struggle with me because of my flat affect, its useful when playing poker for example although "reading people" in that game is also overexaggerated, then again some people do show if they are nervous.

>>12277948
Vaccineitis

>>12279999
I was unlucky enough to have a precept for a class that she was in. She literally asked the professor like 20 stupid questions in a row in one long run on sentence that sounded like “and is that hypothesis accurate, and what are the total parameters for the experiment and what sources of error can be expected and what is the accurate picture of what the experiment is saying and when can we expect to see the multiple observables blah blah baah. Baaaaah” SHUT THE FUCK UP, SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH YOU AUTISTIC CHIMPANZEE THAT THINKS ITS SMART.

I didnt say that but every time she spoke i started obnoxiously coughing to try to get her to stop her giant run-on sentence. She was too stupid to get the point.
Fuck affirmative action. I dont know what assholes on princetons admissions thought, “oh, we need to have one student rep from the autist population for diversity”.
No. Just no. Fuck diversity.

>>12279999
Also, all of her accomplishments were done by grad students and professors who probably got paid extra to deal with her retarded ass and they did all the work while she just nodded and pretended she had a clue of what the fuck was going on.

>>12280069
>>12280077
I suspected as much. I'm sorry you had to deal with that shit; I've encountered midwits before, too.

>>12277980
>it takes away your social mask.
You don't understand autism.

You have never had autism and never will.

>>12277948
evolution of human

>>12277948
I want to date a girl with mild autism or Tourette's. It's kind of fucked up but hear me out...

>>12279613
Pic related is Wikipedia. Essentially modern psychologists increasingly believe that there is a schizophrenic spectrum or schizotypal personality spectrum much like the autism spectrum, as opposed to schizophrenia being a discrete and specific disease. They think a lot of people are “schizotypal-esque” with full blown schizophrenia being the absolute pathological extreme of the spectrum. What I described above would be someone who doesn’t have auditory or visual hallucinations, but they have a milder form where they read too much into social interactions and have paranoid delusions that people secretly hate them or are out to persecute them. Essentially, they read into facial expressions of other people the way the most schizo people on /x have pareidolia. Take the classic /x schizo and turn the dial down until their condition is milder and more sublimated into the mundane and you have the schizotypal or the even milder schizoid. A lot of them tend to talk with a flat affect and have a very controlled demeanor, as though trying to protect and conceal their emotions from scrutiny, but others are just awkward or “weird”. They tend to be inept at forming stable social bonds, but the more milder types can “wear a mask” and acquire a few relationships. This introverted, emotionless, and robotic demeanor makes people mistake them for genuine autists. What researchers think they know about schizophrenia is really in flux these days. And yes, self diagnosis is really not good to do via 4chan, but it’s also possible your therapist went to school in the 80s and is wrong in thinking your social anxieties are caused by “low confidence” or “unaddressed emotional hang ups” when they could be mild hallucinations, the nonvisual equivalent of seeing faces glaring at you from cracks in walls.
https://theconversation.com/the-concept-of-schizophrenia-is-coming-to-an-end-heres-why-82775

Baby don't hurt me

>>12277948
Human psychology is not uniform so it follows you get some peculiar psychological patterns like autism or the various “personality disorders” the normie hive likes to pearl clutch about living sad, shallow vapid existences absent any inner life to speak of. The autismo is a powerful psychological pattern that is fixation based, this is why you get online sub cultures with people so pathologically dedicated to them, as they hit the fixation markers. This is not like OCD where things have to be precise, it’s looser than that. These fixation markers are also why with autismo fetishes are more common. Like I’m someone who instead of finding human sex arousing instead gets off to fucking vore. Why so? No clue. But I think there is a connection between the autismo cultural framework and non-normie fetishisms. Like as someone who knows vore, there is a fucking sunny amount of horse vore. Like holy shit dude it’s everywhere. There’s even more anime vore. Than there’s the way gender identity is worn like clothing, which to be fair is more endemic but is very autism connected too as autism breaks with the ability to socially interface and therefore internalize the gender roles normies just get. Yeah some normies are like “well I wish men did this instead” but they still are overall fine with that. But than autismo goes in and says “let’s be queer” and this is in part since gender identity breaks down when your brain is not normie brain.

These patterns get more intense, not less by the generation too. In the 90’s such people were more fine with traditional social roles but played with them more than most. So what happen? My theory is it’s the microplastics on some level and also how autism is something that leads to extremely online people a lot more. Which makes sense because if you are an autistic person it’s like, all the normies you just can’t get so you look elsewhere and end up face to face with the autismo.

>>12280215
Praise the autismo technocrats and media moguls.
Autistic people are a powerhouse and autism emperor Bill gates will ensure the autismo grows larger!

>>12281578
(Amendment)

As to what is autismo? Autismo is a set of patterns, the alternative conformitird to which autistic people gravitate to unlike normies. This is kinda like the alternative conformity or hipsters or emo types, but one can see it as defined by a several things. One is a preoccupation with science that is often mixed with something of a cartoon show with technicolor talking animals who manage to be shoehorned a lot. Another tendency is you can expect fetishes normies usually reeeee at on sight of, these can be stuff like inflation, vore. Feet (though some normies got that one too), transformation or some other stuff.

There are autistic women, but as often noted they’re semi-normie half the time since women get way more attention from a young age on social collectivism so their autismo is castrated by the normies half the time. It’s a sham but it’s okay, since autismo accounts for this through a fair amount of biologically male autistic becoming feminized especially in the past decade. As autismo is fetish oriented in inclinations this leads to lots and lots of queer shit that festers about the place.

>>12281590
So be careful with the normies, they’ll take the autismo powers from you if you let them get to you with their “integrating into society” bullshit.

>>12281593
Autistic women are extremely rare and if they are competent enough to have sexual relationships, they’ll aspire to become normies and marry normie men. And they’ll land men, easy. Life never stops being hell for autistic men. Even if you’ve thought you’ve found a loop hole that allows you to be happy and escape suffering, that loophole will be all stretched out and used up by chad, same as always.

im autism

>>12281620
These insecurities you project, you project in vain. I’m already like all the traits people say these chads got. Jaw line, eyes, the facial structure as a whole, genital size, etc. The reason I don’t bother with relationships is from an incapability to form them. I regularly got matches on social dating sites when I had felt the normie pressure to do so, but was so horribly underwhelmed by the personalities I met I lost interest. As is the pressures of a relationship I want no part in as sex is not an incentive for me since my sense of arousal is so abnormal that it just does not track with any normie courting methods.

>>12281653
Like, women have and did show interest in me for like years, I caused women who blushed and shit in my presence or had weird niceness towards me that did not register as interest. And so I rule out any incel based problems there. Since I don’t even fucking connect socially with other guys either since I am just not able to find anything to connect with someone about or otherwise have the social instinct to network, interact, make contacts or any of that. It just doesn’t occur to me.

>>12281659
As for loophole being stretched out and used, like what? You saying chad starts to fuck all the femboys too? Oh well I guess so, whatever that cosmovision does for anyone as normies usually distribute their mates to reduce social instability from what I can tell. Maybe there’s a guy fucking 20 of them but even the beta bus as they call them still get kids even if one or two aren’t theirs.

>>12281667
And if the wage got money well maybe that’s why they should’ve invested in a gun if they’re worried about the chad breaking in or whatever. Just shoot em, maybe make a Stacy lure than when he shows up shoot em dead and blame it on some next door minority. It’s what they did in the 80’s all the time and it worked.

>>12278296
>>12279672

If you have an eyebrow peircing that gets torn out you can end up looking like that... I guess if someone thought that "washed up punk" was something worth LARPING as

I assume that everyone has an extremely low opinion of me, but that must be crazy talk r-right

Then I get a low opinion of myself for being arrogant enough to think that I must be crazy to think that people have a low opinion of me

>>12280077
You sound like an envious retard. I've met people like you and they were all stupid and projected that.

>>12281717
They’re jelly that “the boy genius” role they inhabited so they could look down on the more r selected kids in high school didn’t pan out. Now they got a dead end boring as shit job, alongside the guy who made D’s but actually fucked in high school. The girl they’re talking about is clearly severely autistic and it probably sucks for her. Poor thing.

it's not givin a FUCK disorder

>>12281575
>vorefag

KYS

>/sci/ is still on the "lack of empathy is a symptom of autism" train
Baron-Cohen tier popsci, autistic people have difficulties (sometimes near total absence of) reading, displaying, labelling emotions, =/= lack of empathy

t. diagnosed turboautist

>>12279664
>skinner.jpg
>No, it's evolution that's wrong

>>12277997
>Yeah we know they’re essentially survivalists. They say it’s an attempt at human evolution. A dice roll on a powerful but not yet stable gene. Some autistics are super extremely successful people. Autism merely is a positive trait and goes unnoticed in them.
you've clearly never met an autist nor have any experience with autism

this doesn't include the im-so-different self diagnosed antisocial idiots on 4chan either. probably 1% of you are actually autistic, mildly at best

>>12282229
Isn't 4ch where autists come together? Especially to get free from the intensity of the ADHD crowd (who end up on /r/Ritalin)?

>>12282078
Reeeeeee some more, normie

>>12282249
>Isn't 4ch where autists come together?
Everyone here thinks they're autistic just like every woman on twitter thinks she's depressed. It's just a cope to rationalize antisocial behavior

>>12282329
There’s other mental disorders than autism that lead one to 4chan

>>12282215
>incapable of labelling and recognizing emotions
>not lacking empathy
I'm genuinely curious how both of these things can be true. Isn't empathy literally the ability to recognize and understand how someone else is feeling?

>>12282340
>There’s other mental disorders than autism that lead one to 4chan
Yup, just look at /x/.

>>12282351
It’s because we do feel empathy. It’s just that we suck at reading what someone is feeling. Which leads to a lot of faulty empathy more than a lack of it, at least in my experience. That’s one way to think of it, we do empathize we just are shit at knowing when to empathize and when not to empathize.

>>12282046
Guess again. My boy genius role panned out: I got all A’s, I work in my chosen field, I’m my own boss, I get paid very well, and I get to pick and choose which problems I want to work on. I also fucked like an animal in my heyday and got more than one pregnancy scare (no STDs, which given the sheer volume of local pussy I smashed is a Herculean feat in and of itself). I have nothing to be jealous of, I just can’t stand midwits. This one is not a “poor thing”, she’s just the Dunning-Kruger effect writ large.

Not for nothing but I also won my school’s spelling bee. You don’t see me shouting it from the rooftops of professional networks like LinkedIn.

I'm convinced that every negative trait humans have is because women.
Men with maladaptive genes die.
Women with maladaptive genes are protected by men and reproduce anyways, passing their retardation onto the next generation of men who never stood a chance at life.

>>12282406
Normie hysteria is a maladaptive trait but it keeps reproducing, so it’s like what do

>>12282409
>Normie hysteria is a maladaptive trait but it keeps reproducing
>Women are known for being hysterical
It adds up

>>12282340
Yeah, schizophrenia, which is an even smaller proportion of 4channers

>>12282390
>I literally make six figures and own my own Epstein style sex island, bro, trust me....
I’ll just have to take your word for it.

>>12277948

Autistic girls need love too.

>>12282496
You do that, sweetheart! Nice strawman you've got there. Too bad it doesn't address any points I made.

>>12282503

>>12282390
this you?

>>12282340
>other
Which ones did you have in mind? There really is a lot to chose from.

>>12282632
Yeah because dumb girls are easy to fool. Kinda like why dumber wagie guys are preferred for husbands, stupid will do as the system wants of them more than the smart ones who keep trying to change shit.

>>12282729
Every personality disorder introverts are prone to you can think of basically.

>>12277948
The brain removing that prehistoric social functioning part creating a being with unparalleled logical reasoning.

>>12282709
Yep, you've got me pegged. *rolls eyes*

>>12277948
It's making mentally ill incels think they're ryan gosling for some hilarious reason. Terrible mental retardation otherwise

>>12278031
pic sauce?

>>12277948
mental disease

>>12283056
BUT WHAT ABOUT PRUNE TRACEY

>>12280001
>Autists come in all different varieties, and no one size fits all. In more recent times the term "autist" as become a substitute for "retard" and other slurs insulting a person's intelligence, usually by people who have little to no understanding about what autism actually is. The condition is much more complex that what I've described here, but it should give you a starting point in actually understanding what it is. Jordan Peterson has some good lectures on it if you're interested.
Yeah, nah, autists are pretty retarded.

>>12283229
Nah, they don't serve the rich enough so they gotta go since if you aren't working to hand rich people more money your life does not have value.

>>12283056
>Terrible mental retardation otherwise
except it isn't. This isn't even part of the diagnostic definition for severe autism.

Autism is doing the same thing over and over again because you know the result.

>>12277948
most people here are likely high functioning autists.

>>12282622
>doesn’t address any of the points I made
You mean claiming to be very successful before hollering that she’s a midwit and that you hate her without evidence? If you claim to know her personally, that would serve as evidence, but you claiming to be able to psychically sense the iq’s of people you don’t know doesn’t amount to much of an argument to be refuted.
>she won a spelling bee as a teen while acting very autistic.
>I hate her she’s stupid!
If you want to post a fantasy story about you and her being in the same class and you btfo-ing her in some unbelievable ludicrous fashion I’d be happy to hear it and use it as a pasta. Feel free to make it up and present it as evidence. Or you can just swap in the beloved pasta about meeting her in a grocery store and she tries to leave without paying for candy bars

>>12283187
>source
Douki-chan gets cucked repeatedly

>>12277948
The ability to think about what your are doing constantly.

Less reliance on instincts.

Autism is close to walking manually,

next level is to breath manually blink manuall and even pump the heart manually.

>>12277978
ADHD involves lots of sales of stuff like Ritalin, autism not so much.

>>12277948
There's some psychologists I've heard, posit that it's a form of extreme hyper-masculinity based on the dichotomy of women being focused on people and men being focused on things. I don't know the research, but it's interesting to think about.
The female-centered version of that might be the obsession with celebrity.

>>12285843
>Autism is close to walking manually,
That is where piloting comes in.

>>12287309
>psychologists
I am more interested in people specialising in neurology. Seems extreme branching in neurons is related to autism. Earlier threads on this had images that showed clear differences.

>>12278085
People with a lot of empathy and weak sense of self are susceptible to believe their feelings of hate and betrayal are not justified. Especially if they've been in an abusive environment. Having this type of internal conflict doesn't make you schizotypal.

>>12278296
Attention seeking behavior.

>>12280001
I’m pretty autistic .. people think I can’t read signs. The reality is I’m choosing to ignore them. I can’t figure out why people are always trying to communicate their feelings to me, and why they usually choose nonverbal, symbolic methods of communicating. Like imagine if people came up to you all the time and waved a flag in your face. What am I supposed to do? Do they just want to be acknowledged? Are they trying to control me? I believe everybody should mind their own business unless they have a technical question, at which point direct verbal communication can commence. Anyway, autists aren’t blind or deaf, we just don’t know what to do with your feeling symbols.

>>12280001
Ok autistic retard.

>>12287549
Either you chose to ignore or you just don't know what to do with the symbols, but you cannot ride both horses to the finishing line of logical reasoning.

>>12282229
>>12282329
This anon knows the score.

>>12287572
You’re right. I know what the people usually want. Sometimes I concede and satiate their desires, but often what leads to me ignoring them is when they present backward logic or concealment of their true desire. For instance, girls who like me and want to bond with me will often try to start a fight with me. For this I will almost always choose to ignore, because they could not be forthcoming from the outset. This also goes for anything that promotes negativity. I am on the road to positivity, I’m generally not going to contribute to negative behavior. You will get left behind until you can meet me in harmonious ascension. This is my internal logic at least ..

>>12280215
>The ASPERGER man is the epitome of male intelligence and tenacity.Let's start by looking at his brain. His brain is large. His domineering intelligence makes his presence known without his research papers known without even needing to be cited. He is
a supergenius, as a result of his large prefronal cortex. This gives him the appearance of class and brains. He is then covered by his
pale skin. This pales skin reminds us of his virginity, a feature that developed due to being
exposed to the cold darkness of his mother's basement, made to withstand such an extreme
condition. It also has a psychological effect on the observer. The pale skin reminds us of our
dark, deep desires that emerge from our primal subconscious past.
>The ASPERGER man's demeanor is one of aloofness. He is asocial, awkward, and can shoot up schools. His behaviour strikes fear into the mindless, races of man(n**Rotypical
dogs)
>The summit of expression of his intelligence is his IQ score. The ASPERGER brain is largest of all
neurotypes. As the brain is the penultimate symbol of intelligence, this alone would suffice to
make the ASPERGER man the most intelligent of men. This large brain is able fulfill the desire
of the most rigorous real analysis courses, being able to more than fill all the recesses of
the maxima of wave functions. Its size ensures that when it proves a conjecture, the potent
ASPERGER intelligence will immediately enter the pure maths department at MIT and stun all the professors.
>In total, the ASPERGER man expresses this intelligence in a most exemplary manner in
academia. When he proves previously unsolvable conjectures, he unleashes the entirety of his
special interests and desires upon his professor without any restraint.
>All this is the reason why the ASPERGER man is the epitome of intelligence and tenacity.

>>12280215
>The ASPERGER man is the epitome of male intelligence and tenacity.Let's start by looking at his brain. His brain is large. His domineering intelligence makes his presence known without his research papers known without even needing to be cited. He is a supergenius, as a result of his large prefronal cortex. This gives him the appearance of class and brains. He is then covered by his pale skin. This pales skin reminds us of his virginity, a feature that developed due to being exposed to the cold darkness of his mother's basement, made to withstand such an extreme condition. It also has a psychological effect on the observer. The pale skin reminds us of our dark, deep desires that emerge from our primal subconscious past.
>The ASPERGER man's demeanor is one of aloofness. He is asocial, awkward, and can shoot up schools. His behaviour strikes fear into the mindless, races of man(n**Rotypical dogs)
>The summit of expression of his intelligence is his IQ score. The ASPERGER brain is largest of all neurotypes. As the brain is the penultimate symbol of intelligence, this alone would suffice to make the ASPERGER man the most intelligent of men. This large brain is able fulfill the desire of the most rigorous real analysis courses, being able to more than fill all the recesses of the maxima of wave functions. Its size ensures that when it proves a conjecture, the potent ASPERGER intelligence will immediately enter the pure maths department at MIT and stun all the professors.
>In total, the ASPERGER man expresses this intelligence in a most exemplary manner in academia. When he proves previously unsolvable conjectures, he unleashes the entirety of his special interests and desires upon his professor without any restraint.
>All this is the reason why the ASPERGER man is the epitome of intelligence and tenacity.

>>12278057
Nono. That would be sociopaths.
Psychopaths genuinely sacrifice entire chunks of themselves in exchange for select psychological pathways.

>One chance at life
>Born with autism

>one chance at life
>no autism or schizoid personality
>just a socially inept loser with no friends

autists are creepy and soulless
Their function in society is to be machines used by others.

>>12287572
>>12287585
It's possible he has a framework for knowing there should be a cue, but can't accurately say what that cue is. I'm autistic, I prefer much more literal conversations and I like to know what is expected of me to say. I only recently found out that when someone makes a joke about something you're meant to follow up with an extension of the joke rather than just laugh and say yeah.

>>12281548
I studied schizophrenia decades ago and everybody thought it was a spectrum then

they burned all the books because we continued to label homosexuality as a pathology and set psychology back a long way. interesting to see they are getting back to the same conclusions again

>>12282215
>turboautist
Sure thing, sperg. Gosh including you in the spectrum was a mistake.

>>12281548
It's pretty evident that all mental health disorders are spectral when you think about it empirically.

>>12277978
>>12287291
Isn't the matter with ADHD rather that a for some people serious condition was turned rather successfully during the 90s into the prime way to domesticate slightly unruly young boys, leaving those people who actually have it with far less resources than there could be?

>>12279219
>Bipolar woman
All I've ever heard is people telling others to stay the fuck away from them and how terrible they will ruin your life

>>12279664
You're posting on this board thanks to the technology invented by autists.

>>12288925
Yes, that's absolutely the case. My sister is a prime example of that, no one (schools, doctors, etc) ever offered her help as a kid and she grew up really maladjusted because no one knew what to do with her, then in early adulthood she sought psychiatry and still got nowhere. It wasn't until she was in her early 30s that she finally found a psychiatrist who properly diagnosed her and started prescribing medication that worked to help her. Now she's in her mid-30s and basically just starting on independent life for the very first time because she could never hold down a good job before now without that medication.

>>12289436
How did the ADHD affect her?
I'm thinking about getting checked out for it because I recognize myself in an awful lot of ADHD traits (rapidly changing special interests, maladaptive daydreaming, inattention to details, getting lost in thoughts, poor working memory, etc.)?

>>12278853
Forrest Gump proved that education gets you nowhere and experience and connections get you somewhere.

>>12289506
For her it made her get overwhelmed very easily. Minor noises like chewing too loudly could cause enough of a mental distraction for her to lash out angrily over it, never focusing well on one thing would make her highly inattentive and sometimes hardly able to hold a conversation, she could never pass tests in school because she couldn't focus so she'd either work too slowly or not be able to fully grasp what she was reading due to distractions... If she'd gotten the real help she needed at a young age her life and relationship with our family would have been infinitely improved.

>>12288925
>ADHD
Aka being totally normal in a world that's fucked up. Children are made to run around outside and enjoy themselves, instead we tell them to sit still inside and face the front of the room. If they turn to the side to talk with their peers, we call them diseased and shove amphetamines into them.

It's fucking evil.

>>12277948
Being white and not a psychopath.

>>12278025
That's bullshit.

>>12278085
That is not what empathy means. I guess you're a psychopath.

>>12289907
ADD and ADHD are definitely over-diagnosed in children (specifically boys, who naturally tend to be the most rambunctious anyway), but to say that ADHD or ADD don't exist is foolish. See: >>12289436 >>12289543 where my sister is literally a whole different person when taking ADHD medication; attentive, patient, not overwhelmed by every little distraction. It's literally the difference between her being a functioning member of society or not.

>>12289937
Saying that your sister became a "totally different person" when she started taking amphetamines hardly proves that ADD/ADHD are real disorders, that only proves that amphetamines are real drugs.

>>12279664
It's the normie brains that are malformed and lack something essential to being human. You are closer to animals than to the real people. You just look human, but your thinking is 100% animal.

>>12289943
>display symptoms of ADHD
>get diagnosed with ADHD
>take medication designed specifically to treat ADHD
>ADHD symptoms subside
>FAKE ILLNESS!
So you'd agree that the symptoms are real and the medication works, but that calling it ADHD is some kind of fakery?

>>12289975
>exhibit normal behavior
>get force fed amphetamines
>behavior changes
This proves that the normal behavior was a disorder!!!

>>12289981
Except she was exhibiting aberrant behavior that literally made her unable to function in society her entire life and the drugs fixed specific symptoms in a predictable way that corrected the problem and allow her to function properly as a grown adult.
Yes, ADD and ADHD are frequently misdiagnosed in children because our school system forces them to sit still for hours on end in a way that's very unnatural in those stages of development. I already agreed to that. But if you're going to say that they're MADE UP then you're just fucking wrong because the set of symptoms that we label ADHD do occur and can be corrected in predictable ways. Is it so hard to accept that an illness can BOTH be frequently misdiagnosed AND still exist as a serious problem for real people?

>>12290016
>Except she was exhibiting aberrant behavior
No, she was exhibiting normal behavior in response to abnormal stimuli.

>>12290054
This is just endless semantic garbage so you can continue in the delusion that a real problem doesn't exist.

>>12290016
>she was exhibiting aberrant behavior
What do you mean by that?

>>12288925
My impression was that the medicine worked well for most of the patients. The problem was that Big Pharma saw this as a business opportunity and said any child having as much as a sneeze had to be dozed with Ritalin etc. It is the same mind set that gave us the opioid crisis. I guess after Oxycontin has been through the courts people will take a long, hard look at Ritalin.

Really, if half the children need Ritalin, how did our ancestors survive the prehistory in the jungle??

>>12290569
>Really, if half the children need Ritalin, how did our ancestors survive the prehistory in the jungle??
Because those children played outside all day and did physical labor when able to help their family. They didn't have to sit still for 3+ hours at a time in a school building all day every day, so being hyperactive and hyperaware was probably a benefit in a lot of ways.

>>12277948
Mental laziness. Autists have taken 'idgaf about conversations' and have turned it into an illness.

>>12290599
Unless you wanted to be the next lion meal you had to keep quiet a lot of time. Africa still is full of dangerous animals.

It's problem to maintain relationship with mainstream consuming dumbfuck.

>>12290681
>africans sing and dance all the time
>you need to be quiet
lol retard.

>>12290620
There are different reasons to not give fucks than being lazy. Like knowing the end before it starts, or reason your point fails to be other persons stupidity.

>>12277948
I see some parallels between autistic hyperfocus/obsessions and amphetamine users. They sometimes have the same stare too.
Clinically autism is a spectrum of varying functionality and difficulties, in some areas the general public have seen only low-functioning and in another only high-functional autists highlighted.

A pattern that became human

The Aspergers are sometimes people with an excellent memory and / or an excellent IQ, but who in addition to not having sufficient social, emotional, communication skills are also devoid of a real interest in acquiring those skills.
Their mind is analytical and formal.
Even if they often show a genuine interest in acquiring skills (social, emotional, communicative), it is nevertheless always a practical and intellectualized interest, motivated by the mere desire not to be perceived as strange, not to feel strange, to improve oneself intellectually, to not to jeopardize their work performance, to secure someone to listen to them, to keep a reserve of company for themselves anyway for when loneliness becomes too oppressive: but they derive almost no emotional gratification from sociality.
In addition, a schizoid subpersonality often develops which complicates everything.
Not to mention the monstrous gaffes they sometimes commit (they say what they think without inhibitions, even at the cost of deeply hurting the interlocutor).
In the end, they come across as inconsistent, childish and yet pretentious.
In order to progress, the Aspie must have an adult guide close to him who explains the reality and imposes rules on him.

I had a subclinical Aspie colleague with high intellectual functioning, and I have in my family a young distant relative, clinical Aspie with medium intellectual functioning: crazy gaffes (one of which damaged me very seriously and irreversibly from a practical point of view), great moralism then great impropriety, great intellectual presumption but then dichotomous and mechanical thinking.
They have the brains and personality of a thirteen year old, but the presumption of a sixty year old university professor.
They seems me strongly egocentric (not selfish ...), incoherent (!!!), fragile, presumptuous, unpleasant.
Their real interests are: 1) their objects, 2) their hobbies.

>>12291293
I visited South Africa a few years ago. The guide pointed to tall light poles and explained those were for illuminating the area to keep lions away from the village.
The he added that locals got drunk and shot out all the lights. Lions returned and people were eaten.
Something, something, Darwin, something.

>>12278712
>>12279598
Stop being gaslit by a raging karen, you gullible retards.

>>12278085
>Combine that with a paranoid tendency to hallucinate that people hate them
ok the rest of the post went to shit but I want to laugh at this part specifically. what does it mean to hallucinate that people hate you? lol
t. schizo

>>12291849
>are also devoid of a real interest in acquiring those skills.
Because the skills are disgusting.
>but they derive almost no emotional gratification from sociality.
Because interacting with normies is as pleasant as spending the evening in dentists chair.
>even at the cost of deeply hurting the interlocutor)
Why do you want to be lied to? You want to do something everybody hates, because everybody was too polite to tell you you suck at it?
>In order to progress, the Aspie must have an adult guide close to him who explains the reality and imposes rules on him.
Or maybe somebody should teach normies to not be unbearable pieces of shit.

>>12284376
Damn.

>>12277948
Pure cope. Every autist is ugly

>>12292467
Nope, girl in OP, Jay, is cute.
Also a colleague of mine checks all the boxes and looks good, just not sure she has gotten a diagnosis yet.

>>12277948
i have a similar pic in my autism folder

>>12278936
Seems she enjoys clothes also for sensory impact, especially texture.