/sci/ - Science & Math

DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS

The project is with ICON a 3d printing company from Texas that has been trying to develop construction tech for earth and have printed some buildings so far.
>https://youtu.be/is2UVodNphY
And SEArch+ who won the the Design competition with pic related as well as did well with the Ice House, Ice home, Xhouse1 and Xhouse2
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4pxp5AGeNE&t=94s
>https://vimeo.com/349338189
>https://vimeo.com/270253145
>https://vimeo.com/315160229

>>12794093
Additive manufacturing is the future of space construction cocksucker read up on it

>>12794106
Also this is a official render from NASA and it has a starship

>>12794090
So I can live on the moon?

>>12794106
>muskrat shit
Fuck off cunt

This comes after a decade of research from NASA swampworks and the military, 4 crowd sourcing competitions, multiple projects and corporate R&D.

>>12794147
I can't wait to live in a pineapple

>>12794120
If you are a NASA astronaut. If not then these applications will still change your life on earth. It may also be used on mars as well which would have normal people

>>12794090
This is all nasa does nowdays. Gay lettuce farms and habitats. Propulsion Nasa? Nah

>>12794147
Puuleazzeee

>>12794154
There are doughnuts too.

>>12794159
How will plastic pinneaples change life on earth?

>>12794178
It won’t. It’s SciFi Channel bullshit peddled by Muskrat reddit cunts.

>>12794162
Fleshing out additive manufacturing technology has benefits in the military and commercial sectors. It is also neccesary to be able to exist independently in space (parts and tool manufacturing)

>>12794193
>handwave unspecific social benefits of useless research
cope

>>12794178
Additive manufacturing has a lot of different applications on earth, be it automated manufacturing, cheaper construction, automated food creation etc. It also has military applications for in situ structure or equipment creation.

>>12794224
The airforce has an interest in this technology, so does NASA. Russia and China also have been developing this technology

>>12794154
AYE AYE CAPTAIN

Adding these comments from the last thread because they are quality.
>have robots scoop up dirt
NASA swampworks has been developing a rover that does this for around a decade. Its called RASSOR
>https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/2016/10/03/rassor-marco-polo-demonstrate-resource-utilization-on-mars/
>https://blogs.nasa.gov/kennedy/tag/rassor/
This video is a swampworks engineer talking about it as well as the printing and collaborations they have for the project. this video was 3 years ago
>https://youtu.be/OQt1oG21h4I
this is a video of the old design like a decade ago
>https://youtu.be/d3zRvl2LYJ4
if you search youtube for this past year you will find all the design change proposals for the buckets. Which NASA has crowdsourced just like they did for the 3D printing.
>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nasa+rassor&sp=EgIIBQ%253D%253D
Its definitely a challenge but its been in the works for a long time and is further along then people think.

>all with minimal human assistance?
Yes that is what They attempted to do in the 3d printing challenge, same with Swampworks but we will highlight the challenge because it was done under crazy time restraints with the goal of being entirely autonomous or remote.
>https://youtu.be/J1TWlNWHrsw
>https://youtu.be/axnuLepJufs
>https://youtu.be/PNPg6pqNYg8
>https://youtu.be/axnuLepJufs
The company contracted for the lunar base designs has already been printing homes on earth with minimal human assistance
>https://youtu.be/9MZcuMjZ2vU
>https://youtu.be/NZ-xxwgoT5g
Its also being done in plenty of other places.
>https://youtu.be/69HrqNnrfh4
>https://youtu.be/qQgu9x_gKQA
This one is being done with an arm similar to the one proposed
>https://youtu.be/wMoZUyy8FWQ
so the minimal assistance tech is there

>>12794147
>WHO LIVES IN A PINEAPPLE IN TRANQUILITY SEA

>>12794269
>Have they tested this in a vacuum chamber
It was really needed for the ISS so they have tested in micro gravity
>https://www.nasa.gov/content/international-space-station-s-3-d-printer
>http://cdwvideo.liveclicker.com/?v=1452592158
As for in a vacuum also yes they have proven it with tests on earth
>https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/3d-printing-in-the-vacuum-of-space-now-possible-from-made-in-space-55309

>And can they print shit basically using all lunar resources rather than importing a bunch of plastic or water?
Yes they can
Penn state did it with simulated Marscrete. check out this video that talks about it.
>https://youtu.be/iVDY5m2lx3w
Mooncrete has been around for a very long time and also can work in printers. Some designs do consider polymers or water(ice can most likely be found on both the moon and mars) but others do not. I am not sure what this moon base program is considering
>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283048239_Advances_in_manufacture_of_Mooncrete_-_a_Review
>https://features.miami.edu/2019/moon-landing/using-mooncrete-for-building-blocks-on-the-moon/index.html
>https://canada.constructconnect.com/dcn/news/technology/2017/07/mooncrete-nasa-discovery-could-pave-the-way-for-future-extraterrestrial-building-1025975w
pic related is mooncrete made decades ago and they already have practice printing concrete. This video is the company meant for the moonbase printing at camp pendleton.
>https://youtu.be/pJP2EK3uBlI

So basically as shown this technology is already here, has shown proof of concept and is available to NASA. It just has to be put together and polished into a single project. That project is the ICON- BIG-Bjarke Ingels Group-SEArch+ collaboration with NASA. Since the first landing on the moon is not for another 4 to 5 years at least that means that this project has the better part of a decade to flesh out their plan. That makes this project not only doable but Probable.
>https://youtu.be/yu0aYuF-y9E

>>12794226
Stop calling it additive manufacturing. Its 3D printing. Its overhyped as it is, and regardless, the fact that you have to shill some vague irrelevant side applications no one cares about just shows you dont believe in your own product, so you foolishly stack on dubious side benefits to tilt the scale. Its not a good sales strategy. Accept it, some plastic pineapples are hydroponic farms are a very low point for NASA compared to the heyday of the apollo program.

>>12794269
Also the RASSOR is cool as shit because it carries more regolith mass than the robot.

>>12794291
>Stop calling it additive manufacturing. Its additive manufacturing
K

>https://www.nasa.gov/oem/surfaceconstruction
Its been going on for awhile and it looks very promising

>>12794247
More landing pad

>>12794339

>>12794154
>>12794284
NA-SA wa-gies!!!

>>12794291
>Accept it, some plastic pineapples are hydroponic farms are a very low point for NASA compared to the heyday of the apollo program.
I'm sorry but you are retarded

>>12794321
Everybody calls it 3D printing.

>>12794385
You are dismissed, get out.

>>12794090
woman's magazine science

Based proontfag. Honestly i don't care how its made i just want a moonbase and a mars colony before im 40

>>12794507
Oh am I?

>>12794562
Make fun of it all you want. Soon the airforce will be printing hangers in country while they rain hell on the local population

>>12794346
What is supersonic or subsonic speed when there's no atmosphere to carry any sound?

>>12794756
Still has a numerical value.

>>12794715
It'll happen this decade if starship flys

>>12794715
I just wish i could see what Elon is planning

>>12794790
I hope elon goes with surface habs, he needs as much flash as he can get to entice settlers

>>12794868
I think they will, spacex and tesla are all about aesthetics and if they end up burying it then it will probably be like the ESA moonbase.

>>12795015

>>12795017

>>12795066
Fuck wrong picture. Whatever im leaving it

OMG REDDIT! THEY'RE GONNA PRINT ON THE MOON! SEE THE CGI AND ALL THESE RANDOM YOUTUBE VIDEOS I POSTED PROVE IT! LETS ALL FAP TO CGI AND OVERVIEW VIDEOS TAILORED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC REDDIT! FUCK TRADE STUDIES ON HABITATS, AESTHETICS ARE THE ONLY THING THAT MATTER, BECAUSE I CAN'T GET MY DICK HARD OTHERWISE!

>>12795084
Additive construction is a 4chan favored technology. Redditniggers still talk about modular bases like pic related.

>>12795097
I hope the glass is armored.
Eiter way they have to have one additional of this, so they eat from one and conserve the other.

>>12795142
Thats from the mars one scam, although bothe the moon concept and the spacex rendering had geostatic domes. I think they will probably be for recreation/mental health areas like a park or for test growing. I think the real food production will be in a more protected module.

>>12795097
Why build that stupid shit when you can dig tunnels and seal them ezpz?

Printing solves litterally all problems with space travel.

All you have to do is just put a printer up then you just shovel dirt in and print everything you need.

You can print food, cars, funko pops(YAY!), TV, video games, houses, dildos, and UPVOTES!

Printing makes space travel much cheaper too, because you can just scan and print people!


WE'RE GOING TO MARS!

>>12795193
Because that is not ezpz, it requires more equipment, more manpower, involves more risk and it doesn't help evolve an emerging technology

>>12795208
>reddit spacing
I bet you're butthurt about elon musk too

>>12795220
well DUH! of course Elon's gonna fund printing people!

He own's neuralink.

With neuralink you can just download people's brains and print them on Mars.

>>12795220
So sorry I’m not a muskrat cunt like most on this board

>>12795220
Aren't you even going to mention the upvotes?

>>12795241
>>12795240
>>12795238
You know the best part is that printing and starship are going to be successful and you will continue to seethe for years to come.

>>12795284
Elon's gonna print starship. You'll see!

It's basically printed right now anyway.

Printing it completely will fix all of the problems with starship!

Print it means that starship can engage the warp drive to get to mars fast!

The only way to make a warp drive is to print it!

>>12795214
Tunnels emerge from the ground!

People can emerge from the tunnels from underground just like cicadas.

Tunnels are emerging technology.

People are emerging cicadas!

>>12795366
>Reddit spacing

Newfag here what is proont?

>>12795398
3d printing, or additive manufacturing. A small subset of people on here hate it because when they were young it was a meme technology. Now it is a promising technology that should be the best process for space exploration structures

>>12794269
Wait. So their super advanced 3d printers/builders are just robots that dig sand?

>>12795798
An automated regolith collector is one part of the system being designed as well as a processing plant and an automated printing arm rover. All of it is being developed

>>12795798
Its actually pretty impressive from an engineering standpoint

>>12795973
wtf is this coccon like structure, are we insects now? what the fuck is this shit? terraformars?

Lunar dust is like microscopic razor blades. It destroys all equipment and kills the lungs of anyone who breathes it in. No uncontaminated samples of lunar dust exist on Earth because it destroyed the seals of every single container NASA used.

>>12795071
great pic

>>12796100
60s rubber seals

>>12795066
based

>>12796100
thats because ingress protection ratings and certification and the technologies developed to achieve those were not a thing back then. the new "suit port" space suits will never enter any part of the habitat and remain outside of the base/rover, mounted from their backs on the outside of the suit port, to be entered through a hatch on the back. this saves space inside the station/rover because the suit wont have to be stowed away inside, and putting it on is easier this way since it needs a lot of space to do so, current eva suits are a pain in the ass and take a long time to put on. the suit port airlock also acts as pressurized service bay for the suits if you would have to to maintenance work on them.

>>12796537

>2021
>still believing we are getting off this rock

I can't wait until the next great recession actually hits (not this current COVIDhoax scare) and every one of these retarded "plans" for space is put on hold indefinitely while we tear each other apart for scraps.

>>12796045
Have you seriously never seen the 3d printing habitat challenges nasa did?
>https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/centennial_challenges/3DPHab/about.html
>https://youtu.be/lIvrIKaNCRE
The cocoon shape was the winner of the 3rd phase of the project which was an in person hands off test. Its shaped that way for pressurization purposes and for structural strength.

>>12796541
>>12796537
The apollo suit still looks the best and the least bulky

>>12796548
Not now that the government is no longer the only entity pushing for it

>>12796541
>not sexy biosuit

>>12796541
Looks familiar...

Man, I'm kinda getting worried about Raptor. It's the essential part of Starship and they've already produced, what, fifty of the suckers? And they still haven't found a way to make them work reliably. Absolute worst case scenario, our material science literally isn't up to the task of building a fully reusable engine that powerful yet. G-d, please let based Elon fix these problems within the year, that's the only thing I ask of you.

>>12796861
How do you manage to make a counterpressure suit look bad

>>12796909
It has been working pretty well so far

>>12796909
I thought this was the printing thread, not /sfg/

>>12796921
He's a shill

>>12794090
Imagine if the space race never stopped.
We would already have a decent colony on the moon by now, with regular shuttle services going back and forth.

fug

>>12797783
Don't Fucking remind me. My entire career path would be different

>>12797849
Yeah, you would be a janitor in space instead.

>>12798302
Good enough for me

>>12798302
>janitor in space
Fucking hell we can't even escape the jannies in space

>>12796909
Cope. Raptor is nowhere near ready to fly. No regular company would fly them, but musk is flying them anyway to keep investor funds coming in. This approach may have advantages, but there is the possibility it won't work out at all. Just stop giving a fuck about it, take it easy, and enjoy the fireworks.

>>12799362
You must work for one of those engineer welfare programs that pretends to build space equipment

So... why hasn't this been done on Earth?

>>12794116
Wrong design though

>>12800396
Yeah that doesn't matter nearly as much as it just being there

>>12800375
3d printed homes and structures have been done on earth. Also what are you talking about a science outpost? Because we have a lot of those on earth. This will have a ton of applications for earth so you are either a retard or being intentionally retarded.

>>12800375
would you please look at them. the organic shaped ones look super comfy

https://www.google.com/search?q=3d+printed+house&safe=off&sxsrf=ALeKk01RYBP_Y-aHDQdCb0Z4VbxGyymXmg:1615099682389&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjewuGWy53vAhVhi8MKHbtqDpgQ_AUoAXoECBEQAw&biw=1067&bih=494

>>12801000
Comfy. Personally i love the earthen mars plugs

>>12800278
why the fuck do you care about it unless you work at SpaceX? Realistically you can't do anything about it and it doesn't affect you. It might work, it might not. Now crack open a cold one. And remember, falcon heavy still exists.

>>12801421
Because SpaceX is lighting a fire under the ass of the entire industry and causing real changes. If starship works then it will mean the end of billions in tax dollar waste for launch platforms and the end of empty promises of space exploration in the very distant future. Also the falcon9 launch capabilities are changing my industry

>>12801421
>nooooo you can't support the actual company doing work! You should just stay neutral while my company rapes the taxpayers for absolute garbage products.
Is there anyone more pathetic and useless than a fucking oldspace engineer? Idk how they can tell people what the do for a living without feeling immense shame.

>>12800470
>home
Gee who knew a plastic cube was the solution to the housing crisis and interstellar colonization?

>>12801499
Stay mad molecuck

>>12801512
>1960 NASA=Man on the moon.
>2020 NASA=Plastic cube

>>12801487
>>12801463
just being a fanboy in some online forum does nothing. If you want change write to your politicians.
>>You should just stay neutral
you shouldn't, but posting in some online forum does fuck all.

>>12801499
>plastic cube
stay mad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkQSaM43nNw

>>12798898
in space.... no one knows you do it for free.....

>>12801739
Not plastic and not a cube

>>12801811
>you want change write to your politicians
I do
>but posting in some online forum does fuck all.
It spreads awareness to the public about the welfare niggers at oldspace burning taxpayer dollars to do high school level engineering

>>12802940
Based

>>12803067
Its plastic and a cube

>>12803104
Nope

Prove me wrong, space lego is better than printing. Printing on the Moon either requires lots of water(best used for rocket prop instead), importing plastic from home, extracting sulfur from dirt which requires lots of surface infrastructure, or sintering dirt. Sintered dirt is a bit brittle though. But if we make the dirt into bricks, then one small fracture can't propagate through everything and fug everything up. Arch like structures with interlocking bricks can support pressure loads. Pic and link related:
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20170002067

>>12804290
Well the printfags at nasa actually talk about sintering for a launchpad but idk if it would be very easy to build a hab that way

>LIVE IN MUDPOD COMMUNE EAT BUGS EAT VAT GROWN SEAWEED
no
>BUT IN SPACE
....yes!
>BUT THE SPACEBASE IS POPULATED MOSTLY BY FEMALE NASA GRAD STUDENTS
hnnnnnnnng!
>*rocket explodes on takeoff*

>>12805083
Noone wants to be told what to do unless they are part of something making an impact for their people.

>>12796541
>not double suiting
Its like he wants to get covid

Will we have enough time on earth to conquer the stars? Well if we conquer the moon we can probably do the rest... I am scared. I don't want the human race to go