/sci/ - Science & Math

Apparently one of the customers on VG’s last flight brought up type-specimen bones for Australopithecus and redditors/twittards are absolutely SEETHING

>USFWS will be the last thing standing between starship and launch
what a bunch of nerds

>>15744684
They're serious as in they're serious in trying not to go bankrupt. The current operations model is unsustainable and require investor confidence that a future vehicle can be profitably flown at high enough of cadence to cover costs.

Soon
https://www.asteroidmission.org/

>>15744722
It’s such a stupid fucking business model. If Branson had thought long-term about being able to get some future spaceplane model to LEO/ISS/commercial stations it MAYBE would be a profitable company. No fucking way you ever turn a profit just being a suborbital carnival ride with expensive ticket prices

>>15744734
What’s the deal with the sample door close getting stuck? Was LM able to niggerrig some sort of fix?

>>15744722
So basically they just need to dupe their investors

I predict within the next ~6 months we will get absolute KINO footage of Lueders talking mad shit about SLS hahaha

>>15744736
Virgin Galactic should be able to survive long term if they can get to a monthly(ish) launch cadence. They'll never make back their dev budget but that can get written off under "eccentric billionaire funding." The current issue is that SpaceShip2 isn't really optimized for monthly flights so Branson also has to be willing to write another big ego check for delta-class development.

>>15744739
Are you talking about the flaps in the sample head? It was jammed open with rocks and was letting material leak out. It couldn't be fixed so they skipped the procedure to determine the sample mass and just quickly stored for return.

>>15744750
>delta-class development
Is that their upcoming spaceship 3?

>>15744761
Oh I was under the impression it was the actual seal of the door and sample material was just escaping to space. This seems a little better

>>15744748
https://twitter.com/SpacePadreIsle/status/1702353723916259527

> we need to blow a bunch of SLS up

>>15744162
lots of more clips

>>15744762
Pretty much. It's supposed to just be a SS2 with a lot of under-the-hood improvements to make it easier to service.

>North Korea to partner with Russia to do a short space mission
>India to potentially send astronauts to the ISS for the first time next year as a part of the Artemis Accords signed during PM Modi's trip to the United States
>Venezuela to join Tiangong station?
Lots of weird things happening atm

>>15744700
FTS Archive
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KCJBL632oieD1r6JOh_5Eg9NTcf_-hH8?usp=drive_link

Hello, yours truly
Service is over but I'm still taking a break for a few days (booze cruise).
I'm already eyeing some stamps on several websites, but I'll see what I can do in the meantime

>>15744741
Eventually they need to roll out a vehicle that's at least positive in financial margin. This was their last quarterly report:
>Revenue of $2 million, compared to $0.4 million in the second quarter of 2022, driven by commercial spaceflight and membership fees related to future astronauts.
>Non-GAAP research and development expenses of $84 million in the second quarter of 2023, compared to $59 million in the second quarter of 2022.
>Non-GAAP selling, general and administrative expenses of $43 million in the second quarter of 2023, compared to $36 million in the second quarter of 2022.
>Net loss of $134 million, compared to a $111 million net loss in the second quarter of 2022, primarily driven by an increase in research and development expenses related to the development of the future fleet.
>Revenue for each of the third and fourth quarter of 2023 is expected to be approximately $1M.
$43M in SG&A for $2M in in revenue. Unless 5% of their overhead is keeping the flights going, they're losing money with every flight. They don't do the accounting to confirm it because the remaining investors would have an aneurysm.

>>15744750
I think the variable and fixed costs of running SpaceShipTwo are very close or exceed the revenue they receive per flight. There is a path to viability but they have to fix the architecture like they're claiming to do within the 3 years. Branson will open his wallet once or twice to extend their current 2-year runway but they can't get Delta-class into commercial service in 2026, it's probably over.

>>15744700
2 WEEKS
TRUST THE PLAN

>>15744788
>but they can't get Delta-class into commercial service in 2026, it's probably over.
that should read "but if they can't get Delta-class into commercial service in 2026, it's probably over."

>>15744783
Why does it need the complicated feather wings when ships like the Shuttle orbiter, X-37, etc don’t need something like that

Is PROCSIMA getting worked on still or did the spooks bury it like MARAUDER?

>>15744736
I have a soft spot for spaceplanes (really hoped Russia would revive either mini Buran or MAKS) but they're just not very practical and muh space tourism is certainly not going to pay. I just hope Sierra's Dream Chaser flies next year.

>>15744788
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/virgin-galactics-president-explains-how-vss-unity-is-now-flying-frequently/
>The tooling is being built now. Parts will start coming out by the end of this year, sub-component parts at the vendors. Major assemblies are being delivered, I think, at the middle to end of 2024, and then final assembly in 2025. We're showing first-flight capability at the end of 2025 and then moving into flight test and then into commercial service in 2026.

It's gonna be close

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

look at it lmao

>>15744815

>falcon falcon falcon falcon falcon
I really want to see spacex's financial statements
how are they doing this

>>15744815
>no starship

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1702430704561475785

>>15744845
how about mars man come on.

>>15744819
>Falcon 9 internal cost retard low
>SpaceX investor money
>Rolling starlink profits and projections into loans
>Starlink investors

A combination of the above probably. Internal cost of f9 is probably low enough thay eqch commercial launch pays for 2-3 starlink missions. I think starlink is also making them megabucks with no end in sight. I know I'm going to be on starlink soon, it's almost twice the price of my 4g plan but the coverage is so shit and inconsistent that I might as well be dial up for a significant portion of the day and I hate my telco company with the rage of a thousand suns.

>>15744711
>name a NASA mission after Lucy
[crickets]
>fly the bones into space
Real shit

>>15744784
Space really is for everyone

>>15744845
https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2023/09/14/spacex-completes-engine-tests-for-nasas-artemis-iii-moon-lander/
anyone think this is just cope?
didn't they say just last WEEK they think this thing is going to get delayed

>>15744787
Welcome back stampbro, glad you escaped WWII (for now)

Apparently the NASA advisory panel investigating the UFOs had a budget of only 100k, yet they called a big press conferences and even the Administrator talked? Can anyone explain?

>>15744787
sup

>>15744877
Probably to get Congress to shut up about it and let them get on with real work

https://nasawatch.com/astrobiology/nasa-uap-report-simply-repeats-what-has-already-been-said/

>>15744877
it really feels like the government is pushing UFO stuff hard right now. I don't know what they think they can get out of it. Maybe bigger budgets from public attention.

>>15744700
3/10 OP

That schizo bringing casks with those fake ayyys to Mexican congress really gave me some hearty keks

>>15744877
We are not alone

>>15744908
They're in your walls

>>15744908
>the gooks are in the walls
kek

>>15744866
The cope is at the end with the note that they are launching Starship on a Super Heavy

By the way has there been any movement on naming the booster?

>>15744965
It was the CEO of pillow biting, Mr. Jim Free. I am about to post a lot of quotes and will reddit space them for clarity so sorry in advance, but it looks better. It's worth the read:

>"That’s a lot of launches to get those missions done," Free said. "They have a significant number of launches to go, and that, of course, gives me concern about the December of 2025 date" for Artemis III. "With the difficulties that SpaceX has had, I think that’s really concerning,” Free added. "You can think about that slipping probably into ’26."

>Oddly, Free also questioned the value of the contract mechanism that NASA used to hire SpaceX and its Starship lander. "The fact is, if they’re not flying on the time they’ve said, it does us no good to have a firm, fixed-price contract other than we’re not paying more," he said.

"Ars spoke with a couple of NASA officials on background to give them the freedom to speak plainly [about the above-mentioned gay quotes]":

>"I can't give him a pass on the fixed-price comment," one of these officials said of Free. "On cost-plus contracts, the hardware is always late, and you pay more. On fixed-price contracts, it's only late. So yeah, his comment was technically accurate but totally tone-deaf. What really makes me worried is that I think it shows where the heart of the agency is."

>At the same time, thousands of civil servants have only ever worked with cost-plus contracts, which give NASA more oversight and hands-on control of projects. "They are just biding their time until they can pounce on some misstep on a fixed price contract to say the approach doesn't work," one of the NASA officials said of these old-guard managers.

From 'Weirdly, a NASA official says fixed-price contracts do the agency “no good”,' Ars Technica, June 16, 2023

congress to begin an official probe into starlink

>Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) plans to launch an investigation into SpaceX’s actions in Ukraine following new reports that Elon Musk blocked Ukrainian forces’ access to Starlink internet services.
https://spacenews.com/senate-armed-services-committee-to-probe-starlink-operations-in-ukraine/

>>15745012
Shit meant for >>15744866

>>15744877
It's a publicity stunt really, gets their names out into the press cycle. And doing it quietly would have just triggered more schizos and schizo-adjacent congressmen; holding a big press conference means they can't be credibly accused of hiding the truth, barring the usual unfalsifiable claims about government cover-ups.

Senate committee to probe Starlink over Ukraine, Public space companies try to find funding
------
https://spacenews.com/senate-armed-services-committee-to-probe-starlink-operations-in-ukraine/
> Senate Armed Services Committee to probe Starlink operations in Ukraine
> SASC Chairman Jack Reed: ‘Neither Elon Musk, nor any private citizen, can have the last word when it comes to U.S. national security’
> WASHINGTON — Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee Sen. Jack Reed (D-R.I.) plans to launch an investigation into SpaceX’s actions in Ukraine following new reports that Elon Musk blocked Ukrainian forces’ access to Starlink internet services.
> Another SASC member, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) earlier this week also called for an investigation into the Starlink matter and a Defense Department review of its contractual relationship with SpaceX.
------
https://spacenews.com/post-spac-space-firms-redoubling-efforts-to-attract-institutional-investors/
> Post-SPAC space firms redoubling efforts to attract institutional investors
> TAMPA, Fla. — Three space companies that went public two years ago are seeking ways to build credibility with large institutional investors that have started dipping toes into the deflated market.
> Launch vehicle and spacecraft developer Rocket Lab, space technology provider Redwire, and Earth observation operator BlackSky started trading shares within weeks of each other after their 2021 merger with a special purpose acquisition company (SPAC), a financial tool offering a fast-track to stock markets.
> Spice said post-SPAC space companies are dealing with an equity market that is poorly educated about the space industry and the companies involved.
> “You’ve got a tremendous, I would say, bias by retail investors,” he added.

>>15745018
Republicans are going to use to bring up the Biden administration's role in the sabotage of contract negotiations with SpaceX in mid-2022 that effectively abdicated the the US government's control of Starlink in Ukraine to Musk.

>>15745012
what did Jim mean by this
simply shitting on SpaceX for no reason even though development is going fine?

>>15745042
Kek

>>15745018
Why does Rhode Island have senators

>>15745043
He is pissed fixed-cost is working better than cost-plus. I'm pretty sure he is the same guy who said "NASA should do a "traditional procurement" [i.e. cost-plus] second HLS lander!"

>>15745053
The quote about the meddling is very accurate as well. NASA never met a contract it didn't want to fill with change orders. The absolute disaster of ML1's refurbishment and the ongoing shit show of ML2 is a good example

Hear ye, hear ye! Important tidings from the exotic Eastern lands! The great metal bird herald Muskius hath made unilateral choices regarding the provision of his magic seeing-stones to the embattled Ukranian barbarians. Quoth the Secretary of the Air Legion Kendallius: ""Yea, though Muskius hath not bound himself by contract to our cause, he hath verily gifted the Ukranians with his sorcerous technology.""

But now, an accord hath been struck between the Pentagonius and SpaceXius to formally retain the Starlinkian magicks for the campaign. In other cosmic news, a comprehensive strategy hath been delivered to the Senate on the protection of our realm's celestial assets. New policies shall bolster our satellites from the devious jamming spells and blinding enchantments of the Orient's craftiest mages!

Rejoice, citizens! Our realm's supremacy in the heavens remains unmatched! Now onto the markets - grain futures are up three sesterces in Antioch but down two in Alexandria. Hear ye these proclamations!

>>15745066
The realm beyond our world grows ever more contested, as mighty kingdoms vie for power amidst the stars themselves! The chieftain of yonder United States Space Legion, one General Satlzman, proclaims that space has become an arena for great nations to clash spears and shields. Access to the celestial seas is critical in these times of conflict, he warns, and technology alone cannot conquer the cosmic shores. Only legions well-trained and disciplined in the ways of war shall prevail!

In other celestial news, the august priests of the European Space Temple cry out in warning - humanity's reckless actions threaten the very heavens themselves! Too many chariots clutter the orbital roads, leaving scarce room for maneuver. The valuable circles above must be safeguarded, lest the gods grow wrathful at our hubris!

And finally, merchants and tradesmen now quarrel over the potential profits from communicating directly with citizens through devices of glass and metal. Some see riches beyond imagination, while others urge caution against such lofty dreams. Only fates know whether this market shall thrive or crumble to dust. But all agree - the very stars may soon carry our voices aloft!

>>15745042
Yeah fucking right. Republicans won't do shit.

>spacex getting sued for not hiring non-citizens
>starlink forced to sell its ukrainian operations to the military
>now congress is investigating starlink's role in ukraine
they're trying to chain us to this rock

>>15745067
Hear ye, hear ye! The venerable Senate hath decreed an inquiry into the machinations of the brazen Elon Musk and his celestial army of Starlinks! The honorable Chairman Reed doth proclaim that no plebeian, no matter how wealthy, shalt dictate affairs of security to Rome. Distinguished Senator Warren too demandeth an inquest, to scrutinize the pact 'twixt the Starlinks and the legions.

In other tidings, word reacheth us that merchants who voyaged to the heavens upon gilded bargains now toil to prove themselves to the noble investors. The craftsmen of Rocket Lab, Redwire, and BlackSky face a tempest-tossed market, their journey through the realm of SPACs inviting bias from common shareholders. Thus they strive to demonstrate virtues like constancy, wisdom and integrity to anchor confidence. The path ascendeth steeply, yet they have girded their loins for the ascent.

This hath been the news of the day! May the gods smile upon the Republic!

>>15745069
nobody will do shit because it's already resolved

>>15745070
Dont forget Tesla getting sued for racism, X getting sued by FTC for twitter files release, etc.

>>15745066
>>15745067
Kek these are so entertaining. Missed you big time

Berger doesn't think Artemis III will involve SLS?

>>15745085
F9 + Starship HLS works fine

Recommended ways to kill myself instead of waiting for the next Starship launch?

>>15745090
*icecream licking intensifies*

>>15745095
watch old commented NSF streams

>>15745095
buy NSF merch with all your money

Pls describe this rocket

>>15745107
russia's sls

>>15745107
mockup

>>15745107
>mogs your starshit rocket
holy based russians

FAAggots must die!

>>15745107
WNGTM

>>15745107
HPYGPO

>>15745107
What happened to its neck?!

>>15745123
it came in contact with reality

>>15745107
looks like it’s made of lego

>>15745128
tends to happen with mockupshit

>>15745069
and for the same reason the democrats won't be able to do shit.

>>15744715
Men in shorts is so gay

>>15745123
The shortneck is the Russian equivalent of the the Long March 5B. It realized it could do fine without the standard upper stage.

The longneck is Russia finally trying to get a hydrogen fueled upper stage to work.

>>15745018
Elon should be excuted fir treason.

>>15745049
completely unrelated but I just thought we should rebuild the colossus of Rhodes on Rhode Island
Elon plz gib funding

>>15745150
Build it on the moon so no stupid earthquakes can knock it over again.

>>15745170
>erodes to an unrecognizable form in 100 short years by space weathering

>>15745133
>Judging other men's clothes
Fag alert!

>>15745175
Set it into a mountain, there's mountains up there.

>>15745012
>some misstep on a fixed price contract
It's like he lives in a different universe from the rest of us. Amazing.

It's like meeting a man who claims that fire is cold and ice is hot, and that it's always been that way and everyone knows it and there's nothing surprising about it.

>>15745100
>>15745106
I'm suicidal, not gay.

>moon soon
So uh, can someone convert this from Elon time?

>>15745240
One fortnight

>sea level engines on the moon
sucks but will be necessary.
if one of the vacuum ones cuts out you need to instantly correct the moment with gimbal in order to not crash.

>>15745252
It’s not that bad you’re only taking a slight hit in efficiency which, who cares. It’s the largest manned lander ever made and it’s got a boat load of fuel

>>15745252
Why don't they just develop an aerospike engine

>>15745296
Aerospikes suck

>>15745252
It's basically a negligible difference. HLS will have ~6000 m/s of dv and the atmospheric engines will only be used for maybe 200 m/s at most. And they're only like 20% less efficient anyways.

>>15745305
Variable bell nozzle

NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope’s high resolution, near-infrared look at Herbig-Haro 211 reveals exquisite detail of the outflow of a young star, an infantile analogue of our Sun.
Herbig-Haro objects are formed when stellar winds or jets of gas spewing from newborn stars form shock waves colliding with nearby gas and dust at high speeds.
The image showcases a series of bow shocks to the southeast (lower-left) and northwest (upper-right) as well as the narrow bipolar jet that powers them in unprecedented detail.
Molecules excited by the turbulent conditions, including molecular hydrogen, carbon monoxide and silicon monoxide, emit infrared light, collected by Webb, that map out the structure of the outflows.

>>15744803
The feathering wing makes the craft stable in the reentry orientation. When the shuttle orbiter came in it had to be held at these super high angles of attack and that realm of flight basically requires fly by wire and a flight computer to keep it stable.

By feathering the wings, virgins spacecraft is stable and that is how they got away with flying it completely manually, no flight control computer, I think at least the first one even was all cables for the flight control surfaces.

Cool and simple, doesn't mean the business model will work out. But that part of the design is at least interesting.

>>15744852
lmao was in a similar boat. Was using Verizon hot spot for internet. Disliked Verizon so much as soon as I got Starlink ditched em completely.

>>15745018
>>15745034
BYE BYE MUSK! This is great news! Elon needs to SHUT DOWN Starlink over Ukraine. No one should have the power to grant internet access to a foreign nation. THE FEDS NEED TO REIGN HIM IN

>>15745150
Very based

Victus Nox launched a few minutes ago

>>15745401
They finally called up Firefly! Heard it was beautiful, but most were caught unprepared since it was a 24-hour call-up.

>>15745401
I hope staging went well this time

>>15745417
It looks wrong, but the second stage engine plume after looked nominal so I feel like it was nothing

>>15745416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CDZyZjDc8Y&t=370s
At least one guy managed to get a longer duration stream of the flight.

>>15745430
6:54 SES, 12:06 or later SECO. 5 minute burn, which is roughly the same as the last flight. Looks like full duration.

>>15745376
Based third world abandooner

>>15745049
Someone last thread asked why the New England states are separate- this is partly why. No one wants to give up those senate seats

>read any literature about CS from the 80s
>invented at&t bell labs
>used by NASA
God bless the usa

>>15745498
I love my country

>>15745519
Funny image.

Now, remind me, who achieved the following:
>First ICBM
>First satellite
>First animal returned from space
>First man in space
>First crewed mission lasting a full day
>First lunar flyby
>First rover on the Moon
>First space station
>First woman in space
>First man-made object to escape Earth's orbit
>First telemetry, to and from outer space
>First probe to impact the Moon
>First spacecraft in Heliocentric orbit
>First images of the Moon's far side
>First probe launched to Venus
>First probe launched to Mars
>First EVA
>First probe to land on another planet (Venus)
>First automated, crewless rendezvous and docking
>First docking between two crewed crafts in Earth orbit and exchange of crews
>First automated return of samples from the Moon

>>15745527
Yeah the early USSR space program was a wild, unqualified success that made burgers shit themselves. Other anons image is cope.

>>15745533
>a wild, unqualified success
That's a great way to put it. The best I've heard.

>>15744848
Mars is a meme (for now). The moon will be our proving ground for the ISRU and closed loop life support we'll need to eventually settle the rest of the system and will serve as as the jumping off point to get there. Once we get Habs and Fabs set up on Luna the space age will truly begin.
>it's right fucking there
>there's at least some hope of emergency resupply/rescue
>I WILL lose my retirement money speculating on a lunar land bubble

>>15745527
I think sputnik-explorer is a great thing to point to when comparing the space race. yeah the soviets did it first. they even got two up before america could do one. but they were useless prestige radio beepers.
then along comes america with a half dozen useful science payloads and discovers the van allen belts on their first try.

>>15745541
ISS demonstrated long term life support systems fine and you don't really need those on Mars because you can tap off the atmosphere for oxygen and simply scoop up ice.

>>15744893
My money is on weapons program cover up

>>15744893
Bluebeans is remake of an old psyop to make amends between the peopples of the world by showing them a common enemy.
It doesn't work with chinks because they are soulless commies.

Firefly status???

>>15745548
I'm talking sustainable and scalable to the point where you're getting most and then all the food, water and atmosphere you need locally. Ideally, you'll isru basic stuff so that the only things you need out of a cargo shipment are more crew and fine finished products like microprocessors and maybe things like noble gases that could be hard to get up there.

>>15745527
Reminder that von Braun was 2 weeks away from launching a satellite when he got cucked by the US Navy and thus the Soviets beat them.

Who's gonna tell him ?
>suborbit
>alsbury.jpg

>>15745527
White men

>>15745606
>2 weeks
GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD

>>15745533
>cope
It's bait you autistic retard

>>15745607
Looked him up, some faggot bong leftoid advertising exec. Hopefully the pilot pulls the lever again.

>>15745606
didn't the v2 barely get into space anyway?

>>15745621
pyramids first

>>15744908
Oh shide you scared me

>>15745018
>new reports that Elon Musk blocked Ukrainian forces’ access to Starlink internet services.
is this third-worldery all going off the shit from that Isaacson book?

>>15745252
Just gimbal the rvac engines then?

Flat Starship or Pointy Starship? Does the SpaceX engineer mean Elon made Starship pointy for aesthetic or aerodynamics?

>>15745527
>First woman in space
>being the first to ruin space
>a good thing

>>15745681
More energy is likely saved with aerodynamic liftoff than re-entry efficiencies gained with flatter starship. Re-entry heat energy reduction is already 99 pct with standard starship, enough so that 3 engines are enough to slow them down from terminal velocity easily. While the push for liftoff requires 33 engines and extreme efficiencies to get there fast as possible.

>>15745681
Who gives a shit
>save 5kg weight
faggot faggot faggot faggot

>>15745681
>Does the SpaceX engineer mean Elon made Starship pointy for aesthetic or aerodynamics?
Yes

Ken Kirkland faggot esquire the fourth is the biggest fucking faggot embarrassment to space Xitter. go back to mastodon you extinct bumbling eds retard

>>15745695
Weight isn't that important, payload dimensions are. If I want to launch anything with 8m diameter, I have to reduce the length due to the curve of the payload. 8m diameter and full 22m in height is a substantial upgrade for payloads.

Payload smayload. It wont be sanded off like that bitch faggot thinks. if they ever change it, it'll be a fuck huge mushroom tip god cock a la Falcon Heavy extended fairing

>>15745721
that's for you >>15745714

https://twitter.com/capellaspace/status/1702358569436221555
>fennec fox on a mission patch

>>15745738
What the hell is going on lately?
Silentbarker also had a fox in the patch

First successful Firefly Alpha launch.
https://fireflyspace.com/news/firefly-aerospace-successfully-launches-victus-nox-with-24-hour-notice/

Germany joining artemis accords

https://twitter.com/nasahqphoto/status/1702489175457452221

https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1702479247162372366

>>15745746
https://twitter.com/billmeco/status/1702528492368502896

https://twitter.com/SierraSpaceCo/status/1702389517104324648

Sierra space testing rudder

>>15745662
You ever see how the orange man bad FBI investigations got started? Someone leaks material to the press, which report on something as a fact without verification, and the government then uses the reporting to claim something untoward is going on by using the media reports as the basis for this assertion.

>>15745746
Counting the days until Grumman buys them

>>15745747
Wonder what took them so long.

Firefly launches 'Victus Nox' mission, US government export credit agency considering giving space industry financing, NASA releases UAP report
---
https://spacenews.com/firefly-launches-space-force-victus-nox-mission/
> Firefly launches Space Force ‘Victus Nox’ mission
> The mission to low Earth orbit was a demonstration of ‘tactically responsive space’
> At government request, Firefly did not livestream the launch.
> “Liftoff took place at the first available launch window, 27 hours after receipt of launch orders, setting a new record for responsive space launch,” said Lt. Gen. Michael Guetlein, commander of Space Systems Command.
> The previous responsive space mission was launched on a Northrop Grumman Pegasus in June 2021.
----
https://spacenews.com/ex-im-bank-considering-more-than-5-billion-in-space-industry-financing/
> Ex-Im Bank considering more than $5 billion in space industry financing
> PARIS — A top official with the U.S. Export-Import Bank says the export credit agency is considering proposals for more than $5 billion in satellite industry financing.
> Speaking at the World Satellite Business Week conference, Judith Pryor, first vice president and vice chair of the board of directors of Ex-Im, said the bank was interested in helping the industry finance new projects while remaining agnostic about specific architectures or technologies.
----
https://spacenews.com/nasa-releases-independent-report-on-uap-research/
> NASA releases independent report on UAP research
> PARIS — NASA announced it would take new steps to help understand unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), vowing transparency while also being reticent to disclose some details.

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1702412134745796829

> - An expansion proposal has surfaced for SpaceX operations at @NASAKennedy Space Center. @NASA has invited public feedback. According to a Supplemental Environmental Assessment (SEA) recently released, the SpaceX plans to lease an additional 100 acres on top of the current 67 acres for its Roberts Road Operations Area. The execution of a real property agreement between NASA and SpaceX is subject to environmental review under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA).

about in the middle of the post/article
is this new info? I don't remember seeing this one
also

> - SpaceX is to open an office in Dublin as the company seeks to expand sales of its Starlink across Europe. The Irish base would be the first physical presence in Europe and the Dublin office would be dedicated to supporting Starlink’s financial operations across the continent. “SpaceX is expanding the international footprint in that it is now providing Starlink broadband internet in Ireland and across Europe,” per a Starlink insider.

>>15745738
>pic
What in the goddamn is this devianart bullshit

ammonia NTRs fueled by a phobos refinery > methalox engines fueled by fucking air on mars's surface

Starship bros... we need to go even bigger!

>>15745916
> full reuse no refuel

>>15745916
I remember SpaceX always had weird fairings fairing designs that didn't fit a lot of payloads. >>15745714(me). I read it wrong standard starship will have max 17m tall payloads. Does "an extended payload volume" means we get at least two cargo starship upper stage variants? Or it just means you send a very thin but tall payload?

>>15745738
> :3 face on a mission patch

After everything that happened in the last 10 years i think i'm ready to make peace with hetero furries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F3WRMlZEy4

Nothing is happening so might as well post some random shit

>>15745738
Gay ass uwu bullshit

RETVRN to BEEP BEEP

>>15745746
>Upon receiving the notice to launch and orbit requirements from the U.S. Space Force, Firefly completed all final launch preparations, including trajectory software updates, payload encapsulation, transport to the launch pad, mating to Alpha, and fueling, within 24 hours. Alpha then launched at the first available window, 27 hours after receipt of launch orders.
Impressive, very nice. Now let's see the orbital parameters.

>>15745738
RL's patch did it better

>>15745916
Wow SLS mogs Starship fairing! Suck on that Musk

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/09/rocket-report-new-shepard-may-fly-soon-ula-changes-mind-on-dod-competition/

Small Rockets
> New Shepard may return to flight in October.
> Rocket Lab expands hypersonic program.
> Stoke Space tests hopper.
> MaiaSpace completes stage test.
> Astra announces reverse stock split.

Medium Rockets
> Telesat books a big Falcon 9 order.
> Atlas V begins its long, slow goodbye.
> Does SpaceX have a launch monopoly?
> Russian spaceport used as political prop.

Heavy Rockets
> FAA closes investigation into Starship failure.
> Kuiper launch companies say they're ready.
> NASA installs first Artemis II engine.
> ULA now open to three.

>>15745681
>Ken Kirtland
stopped reading right there

https://payloadspace.com/astra-space-announces-reverse-stock-split/

Astra refuses to die

>>15746017
Why? Is he Jewish?

>>15746032
communist

>>15746017
Based, he is such a fag

>>15746018
>1 for 15
So it's still trading under $10 with an mcap of about $65M? Dead stock walking.

>>15746047
>mcap of about $65M
that's insane. their factory and hardware must be more than that

Welp, I have a feeling the spooks are suddenly not to keen on Astra anymore—and that firefly will get Kodiak privileges

>>15746049
They don't own the factory IIRC. It's a rented building on a literal superfund site (former NAS Alameda, jet fuel dumped into the ground for years).

>>15746051
Starshield and Loft Federal are giving the spooks private LEO constellations with on-orbit compute which was Kemp's intended "phase 3" after launch and spacecraft parts. The entire business plan has been burned to the waterline but he keeps lying to investors so he can maintain the grift.

You niggas heard of ASUS?
>Need to have a high powered hydrolox upper stage like Centaur to launch space probes on the Shuttle
>Don't want to have it fuelled so it won't explode during launch or abort
>Be Boeing and also allergic to depots
>Launch the upper stage empty and fill it up with the otherwise wasted fuel margin left in the ET
>However because you were jetisoning the ET, you had to start filling it DURING ASCENT with the engines still firing
>Have a five minute window to flash fill the tank down to liquid hydrogen temperatures using only ullage pressurant

>>15745916
Impressive. Very nice.
Lets see kg/$ chart...

>>15746076
I hate Boeing so much it's unreal.
>haha let's build a hydrolox reusable staged combustion fifty years ahead of its time and then refuse to build depots for it so we can fly airplanes to the moon and back

>>15744813
"The rocket motor cartridge, the fuel, is the only thing we change out every time. It's a lot like an Estes motor rocket. It's a casing that has solid fuel poured into it. We wrap it with a rubber bladder and then wrap it with Kevlar and carbon fiber to give it structure. The nozzle is integral to the back of it. That whole thing is one use. You burn it from the inside, out to the outside of the case, and the nozzle is ablative and sheds material to dump heat. It's not reusable at that point. It takes us about four hours to take an old motor out and put a new one in, so it's not that hard to change one out. Currently, we make them two to three a month. There is a high cost per unit because we're using our research and development test stand.

But we've laid out a new set of test stands in Mojave, where we can make about 20 motors a month if we need to. When we get to the Delta class, we're going to need to build a bigger facility. We're going to do more of an assembly line, and then the unit cost per motor just drops dramatically at that point. "

Sounds like they need to talk to the RocketLab team, joint carbon fiber motor plant.

>>15746080
A cruel world we live in. How much fuel would Space Shuttle need to land on the moon? Could External Tank be used?

>>15745856
They're expanding again? I guess they want to move Starship production east now that they have most of the process down.

>>15745741
>>15745738
>inb4 Musk puts Krystal on a mission patch

>>15746051
I don't think anybody is blocking Firefly from flying out of Kodiak. They just have so much infrastructure that it's not worth it. In his EDA interview, Markusic dismissed Kodiak as a place that people with no confidence in their rockets fly from.
Regardless, Astra isn't flying from Kodiak again, and at this rate I'm not sure about ABL either.

>>15746080
>I hate Boeing so much it's unreal
Elaborate.

>>15746013
>Rocket Lab said it has signed a contract to conduct four additional "HASTE" missions with Leidos on Electron
Is everybody just retarded for not marketing orbital rockets as hypersonic testbeds sooner?

itt sciencegolems still waiting to take off this flat and stationary plane

>>15746154
>next 100 years
lmao, what the horseshit they are selling you and you just gobble it like fresh cum

>>15744893
usually they do this when there is some other big thing they want to draw attention away. Remember, a unidentified larger drone or balloon puttering across the airspace is also classified as a UFO

>>15745042
only ones who would do is the maga faction. Warren in that meeting club is a firm neocon and thus uniparty member. Like neolibs like biden on the democrat party block

reminder

>>15745074
kek

>>15746205
based

>>15745107
>puccia STRONK!

>>15745107
Not Working.

>>15746232
i love how much this sentiment makes "professionals" seethe.
its obviously correct

>>15746232
I can see this being useful in places but it could distract you on things that are inherently hard to manufacture. a computer chip is what, 3 cents worth of silicon and copper? but completely impossible to make without $100,000 machines and clean rooms and strict quality control.

>>15745607
s/to space/toward space/

>>15745681
Maybe they could use one of those aerospike's found on SLBM's for liftoff.

>>15746244
Entirely missing the point. Despite all that a 7nm phone processor costs 20 bucks.
This is exactly demonstrating the point that no matter how complex you can asymptotically approach the BOM

>>15746232
Is this how he arrived at $2m per launch of Starship?

>>15746254
That's the cost of consumables I think.

Only three months left in the year; why is Tory too scared to give a “solid” NET date for Vulcan

>>15745916
>>15745940
I haven't followed Falcon Heavy development in a while, have they upgraded their fairing to 21m+ or whatever is required for natsec launches?

>>15746265
Not yet but soon trademark symbol, supposedly

>>15746253
that's 3 orders of magnitude. significantly worse than elon's example. cool the economies of scale can drive the price of something so complex down to such a human number, but it's still intrinsically difficult to manufacture.

>>15746270
The way processors became cheap is by reducing the idiot index. More reduction in idiot index than most other products happened there.
In that way it is the most important metric

>>15745681
Elon has said on video that he made it pointy as a joke. How do none of you remember that?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=qpCYyC6xm-g

>>15746274
The example of chips is a bit deceiving because their way of becoming cheaper is mostly becoming more powerful for the same price.
The point is that if you had the task of building a teraflop/s computer in 1980 you can easily say it cannot be cheaper than a trillion dollars if at that point you hadn't realized that anything can approach its BOM.
It's like the timelines Elon sets. It has to always be a lower bound because once you set it it sure isn't gonna happen faster than that.
If you tell an engineer he has to make raptor cost 10 million it won't become 100k whereas if you tell him its lighter than a car so should obviously cost 5000 dollars he might manage 100000

>>15746270
It's not an infallible rule, nor is it intended to be. It lets you ignore low idiot index parts/products so you can consider the feasibility of reducing the production cost of high idiot index products.

A high idiot index is just motivation to consider ways to reduce cost.

>>15745916
>TLI: N/A
made by a nigger that is afraid of refueling
150 tons TLI scares the SLScuck

>>15746244
Microchips are like next in line to be made in space after drugs so your argument doesn't have strong legs

>>15746316
To be technically accurate, the only Starship going to TLI is HLS, so while true the image is misleading

>>15746317
>Microchips are like next in line to be made in space after drugs
Highly doubt. Shining a light onto a piece of silicon does not greatly benefit from microgravity.

>>15746317
that's not reducing the idiot index, that's significantly increasing it for the chance of a slightly higher quality product

>>15746317
Which step in the process would benefit from microgravity? Also they need a shit ton of ultra clean water.

>>15746328
The clean rooms and the part where they have to shoot tin droplets i imagine.
I'm not a rapper so stop rapping at me

>>15746232
This is really is what separates a great manager from an engineer.
Engineers will bicker and say but but what about this and that?
The manager knows this framing of the problem is what can enable radical cost reduction even if you never reach the cost materials.

https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1702671783445356645
>Firefly Aerospace has confirmed the launch at 0228 UTC Sep 15 of VICTUS NOX, and Space Force has cataloged object 57861 in a 476 x 531 km x 97.3 deg, 1804 LTDN sun-synch orbit, confirming successful launch.
>The Firefly Alpha vehicle's second stage was deorbited over the Pacific, with reentry in the target zone around 0407 UTC at the end of the first orbit
>Slightly surprising, the @Firefly_Space and Space Force press releases suggest that the 500 km orbit was reached with a single upper stage burn, rather than an initial burn to transfer orbit and a second circularization burn as one might have expected.

https://twitter.com/ursamajortech/status/1702415033819353359

>>15746320
>he thinks they'll actually use dragonXL and not just TLI a cargo starship
why wouldn't they just TLI a starship? it's cheaper for them

>>15746346
It ain’t cheaper for them right now. It’s going to take a while for the cost to go down. Plus NASA doesn’t need an entire starship’s worth of supplies for lunar tollway any time soon.

>>15746355
elon isn't known to live in the current

Guys what if you build a giant lens in space and use sunlight to shoot silicon wafers to make GPUs
I bet the sun has EUV in it

>>15746360
Why not use gamma rays at that point?

The ancients greek were gamers..

>>15746244
Nah there's probably at least a dollar's worth of gold in your CPU's pins. Other anon mentioned a 20$ price and an idiot index of 20 probably isn't too bad.

>>15745423
The 2nd engine exhaust spreads back behind the stage, like in the opposite direction a tiny bit. From the force of the thrust, it usually looks like just a trail of fixed smoke. Neat effect that does look off.

>>15746364
I think the problem was it just starts eating into the material

Anyone find spaceflight really, really boring? I'm only excited when a major mission (like Artemis I) or a Falocn Heavy+ vehicle lifts off.

>he doesn't know

>>15746346
The FWS wont let them. Spacefish migration

Clear live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyqI-xmx8JQ

>>15746378
yes. people are only interested by the cutting edge. show a falcon landing to someone 10 years ago, let alone 50, and they'd be blown away. now they happen twice a week and nobody cares.
give it a decade. you'll barely care about manned moon missions.

https://www.space.com/venus-lightning-meteor-strikes-atmosphere

Lightning on Venus might just be flashes from meteors, future missions don't have to worry about lightning

>>15746154
Toast friends!
To the next 100 years of incompetency

>>15745107
fetal alcohol syndrome in action.

>>15746419
girls who love SLS are so hot

LAUNCH

>>15746442
I do not have a reaction image in my repertoire capable of expressing my absolute fucking disgust of your shitpost

>>15746442
> girls

Max Qute

>>15746442
Of course the person with make-believe biology ideas also has make-believe economy ideas lol

>Fish and Wildlife said that once it reviews the FAA’s final biological assessment, it has 135 days to issue a final biological opinion.
Fuck's sake
https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/spacex-faa-ok-second-starship-rocket-launch-18366987.php

>>15746412
It’s fucking over
The idea of lightning on venus was kino

>>15746472
dragging their feet on purposes?
this is bullshit

>>15746472
Set fire to all fish and wildlife in protest

Is it casual Friday at Roscosmos?

>>15746478
Not on purpose, that's just their required must-respond-by time

I anticipate they will return a finding much earlier than that

>>15746473
It’s one of our closest neighbors (inb4 ackshually mercury…) and we aren’t even sure if it’s tectonically active or if surface volcanism is dead or ongoing. I don’t trust anyone who says they know if lightning is happening or not. Billions for mars, pennies for venus

>>15746480
Nah, at the last launch they were also just as casual

>>15746317
I'm going to make a collage of the dumbest /sfg/ posts of all time some day.
I don't even know where to start.

>>15746480
>no dommommy pockocmoc space gf
It’s over

>>15746473
I refuse to accept that there isn't lightning on Venus. on earth you look at a cloud wrong and it shoots lightning. no way clouds on venus aren't zapping things left and right.

>>15746491
If there's wind and dust, why wouldn't there be electrical charge built up in the clouds? Unless there's something I'm missing then there's absolutely lightning on Venus.

>>15746442
>>15746447
"You will never find a more wretched hive of dumb and midwittery ..."

>>15746491
>>15746494

>>15746505
saaars don't forget our mission

>>15746505
>The magnetometer instrument on Venus Express detected electrical discharges when the spacecraft was orbiting close to the upper atmosphere of Venus.
So could this have been false-positives from meteors, or can magnetometers distinguish actual electrical discharges from entry plasma

>>15746487
where are their eyes?

>>15746506
It’s not a confirmed mission yet, bloody

>>15746506
wasn't rocketlab also supposed to go to venus this year?

>>15746487
>hundreds of tons of incredibly pure water, are you going to purify it in space? Fly it up there?
>Billions of kilowatt/hours per year
>Huge volumes with multiple billion dollar machines and tens of thousands of steps per wafer all of which are optimized for Earth gravity, many of which are impossible in microgravity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEaBtfMkCkM
>How the fuck are you going to cool it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_Science_Laboratory
Pumping fluids through pipes is its own full experiment, bleeding edge lithography is one of the very last things that will be done off of Earth's surface.

>>15746505

>>15746528
woah

>>15746528
nice colonoscope video

>>15746232
>>15746330
Musk is a engineer-manager, thus he knows there's inefficiencies in both engineering practices and cost practices. A good engineer follows "the Algorithm" "DELETE DELETE DELETE. Best part, no part. Cost nothing, cant go wrong!"

>>15746472
>>15746481
>>15746478
They're intentionally doing serial delays instead of working together in parallel to speed things up.

>37 launches to go
10 weeks left in the year... will 2023 beat out 2022 in total number of launches?

https://twitter.com/CJHandmer/status/1702720737763786967

>>15746582
Maybe not if the gummit shutdown happens, it depends on how "essential" KSC and Vandy are, but I guess they could launch more Starlinks instead of grounded USG payloads.

>>15746232
What do you think the idiot index on this thing is?

>>15745527
Germans

>>15746589
depending on how you measure it probably pretty low. 6'x1'x20' blocks of aluminum don't come cheap.

>>15746589
My idiotmeter exploded

>>15746232
what's the idiot index of a tunnel bros??

>>15746317
>the next generation of computer chips will be a a grown Krystal structure
Interesting

>>15746593
that's not how it works. you take the mass of the finished product and calculate its material cost.

Reminder that if you live in western Europe clean drinking water is the cheapest thing you can buy

>>15746597
probably not applicable to that directly, but you could look at how much a TBM costs to manufacture in materials, how much the power costs, how much the concrete costs to make the reinforcements and so on
but you could look at something like cost per mile, speed of mining
just like cost of mass to orbit

>>15746608
the TBM is only like 15 million, and the cost of energy is also pretty low, so how are tunnels so expensive then?

>>15746610
endless bureaucracy

>>15746575
>"DELETE DELETE DELETE. Best part, no part. Cost nothing, cant go wrong!"
>dies inside cybertruck because of the lack of door handles
Nothing personal.

>>15746620
you add back the parts that are necessary after deleting

https://twitter.com/ESGhound/status/1702667553795977361

the lack of launch escape system makes starship less safe but I don't care, still gonna fly

>>15746620
>not getting cyberarms to cut through problems like that
Chrome >flesh

>>15746628
ITS FUCKING OVER

When you think about it rockets really don't cost that much to build.
Atlas V launch ~$110-150 million
Boeing 737 max 8 ~$120 million
It's just throwing them away after 1 use that drives the price up to ridiculous amounts. any rocket that could fly to leo with the cadence of a jet liner would cost almost as little

>>15746629
less safe than what?
commercial planes don't have emergency escape systems but I'm pretty sure they are still much safer than fighter jets that do have ejection seats

>>15746639
so you're suggest we reuse rockets? You know that's impossible right?

>>15746628
>esghound

>>15746643
no way it's impossible, just look at the space shuttle. I think that with modern advancements we could build an even better SRB and hydrolox powered spaceplane

>>15746647
>implying he's ever been wrong

>reusable bike tires
https://newatlas.com/bicycles/metl-shape-memory-airless-bicycle-tire/

>>15746628
Hate this nigger.

>>15746654
Actual meme btw. We already have plenty of tires that ride better and are insanely durable
.t bikenerd

>>15746628
>>15746633
>>15746651
go back to twitter eric

>>15746412
Well it ”might” just be meteors, but then we’d have to ignore the physics of cloud/atmospheric friction that would cause such lightning strikes

>>15746660
>We already have plenty of tires that ride better and are insanely durable
what brand?

>>15746660
Tires that don't puncture definitely sound appealing even if there is a slight performance benefit

>>15746522
>>15746487
All you neigh sayers will be eating their words in due time.

>>15746675
The fuck do these people need internet for?

>>15746685
government mandated indoctrination

>>15746685
porn

>>15746685
spacex's pr

>>15746685
They get to work as cashiers for Freshii.

>>15746685
Education
Emergency support
Government representation

>>15746675
I find it hard to believe that there is a single computer or cell phone anywhere near this village. How's it even powered?

>>15746675
This is colonialism.

Why does the Soyuz take forever to lift off?

im so FLIPPIN ANGARY

>>15746713
the wooden matches have to light

Uh oh... Musk is in trouble!

>>15746722
spaceflight

>>15746018
>>15746051

>>15746704
Practically every 3rd worlder has a cellphone

https://twitter.com/BusinessInsider/status/1702683675316396399

>>15746506
tfw Bharat saves the day again.

>>15746748
They're wearing rags and living in open straw huts. How would they charge a phone?

>>15746754
The most positive Musk story BI ever ran

>>15746762
They're powering starlink receiver some how. And that could be a power line to the building behind her

>>15746754
Guess it's that time to post this story again

>>15746762
diesel generator or solar panel + battery

>>15746722
We are ruled by warmongers and enemies of God. I don’t think these people will “let” him attempt a Mars landing on his own

>>15746762
power lines are remarkably little infrastructure. much less than a paved road

The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. They are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive, and neither are you sciencegoys.
CGI is all you get in this life and if you are vaxxed, I know many of you here are well boosted, then the Mars landings will be livestreamed straight into your vaxxed brain.
Also with the latest Neurolink brain processor you'll be able to watch multiple landings at the same time, with the same bitrate and no loss in quality experience.

>>15746779
Sure, but power generation?
>>15746776
>solar panel + battery
That's more likely, but damn they're not gonna have much juice unless they absolutely slather the landscape in panels.

>>15746782
just because they're in thatched huts doesn't mean the town 10 miles away is

Firefly launches rocket in 27h for the US military, European space syndicate expands rapidly, Spanish smallsat startup PLD to expand workforce
-----
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/09/firefly-and-space-force-demonstrate-ability-to-rapidly-launch-a-satellite/
> The US military just proved it can get satellites into space super fast
> Alpha becomes the first of the US 1-ton rockets to reach its target orbit.
> As part of its efforts to be more nimble in space, the US military has been pushing satellite and launch companies to become more "responsive" in their ability to put spacecraft into space.
> Essentially, the military is concerned about other nations damaging or destroying its assets in orbit during a conflict. Military officials believe one way to guard against this would be to have the capability to rapidly replace those satellites—whether they're for spying, communications, or other purposes.
-----
https://spacenews.com/nonprofit-supporting-european-startups-expands-rapidly/
> Nonprofit supporting European startups expands rapidly
>PARIS – The rapid growth of European space startups is reflected in Young European Enterprises Syndicate for Space (YEESS), a nonprofit formed in 2021.
-----
https://europeanspaceflight.com/pld-space-to-hire-150-new-employees-by-2024/
> PLD Space to Hire 150 New Employees by 2024
> Spanish launch startup PLD Space has announced plans to hire 150 new employees by 2024 to support the development of MIURA 5.
> PLD Space is currently working towards a maiden flight of its suborbital MIURA 1 rocket, which it hopes to conduct in a matter of weeks. The rocket will serve as a technology demonstrator for its larger MIURA 5 vehicle which will be capable of delivering 540 kilograms to low Earth orbit. According to the company, “70% of the design and technology” from MIURA 1 will be utilized aboard MIURA 5.

https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1702753019547492638

>>15746778
We really need to eradicate all russians before the human species can proceed anywhere off this rock.
No point contaminating other worlds with them.

>>15746800
neat, so it still goes to wired?

>>15746641
Less safe than rockets that do have launch escape systems? And are you really comparing Starship to a commercial plane?

>>15746811
if it can yes for the foreseeable future, there are some laserlinks but using those more than is necessary would most likely decrease total bandwidth

>>15746628
I swear to fucking god

>>15746815
yes, why wouldn't I
the point of Starship is to become as mundane as a commercial plane, why couldn't they make it as safe as one?

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1702748816351346705

>>15746628
I wouldn't even know this retard existed if you people didn't post screenshots here every day.

>>15746827
mig 29 may be old and may not have a great radar but it's probably one of the sexiest soviet designs, better than the flanker desu

>>15746628
He's right, and that is what breaks /sfg/

>>15746837
some people on the internet are starved for attention and will intentionally post inflammatory retards like ESGtard over and over again to get the attention their parents clearly never granted.

>>15746841
and >>15746840 this is probably one of them.

>>15746843
I have made peace with April 2024, you will eventually

We need to work on economically develop space, namely the moon

>>15746861
Clearly an early 4ASS design prior to the invention of the pisslock

>>15746864

>>15746864
No pisslock, we need the vacuum for it to be worthwhile

>>15746722
Well yeah, that's why the service was already off—in accordance with sanctions—and why he didn't switch it on absent approval from the Pentagon.
It's almost funny how blatantly these people are presenting the story literally backwards. I think if Elon had activated Starlink in Crimea, he'd have been arrested, shot, or black-bagged within a few hours, depending on which alphabet agency won the race to his front door.

>>15746861
I keep telling you guys. it's gonna be drugs.
once 1 company makes $5 profit off some microgravity mandatory drug, there's going to be a gold rush to the tune of tens of billions of dollars

Why didn't bird evolve Propellers?

Hear ye, hear ye! Gather round, good people, and attend to the news from distant realms!

Word reaches us from the frontier that the Firefly Legion has launched a secret night mission into the heavens above, demonstrating their ability to deploy the eagle standards to the skies with great haste when commanded by the Space Praetor. Truly, Caesar would be pleased by such rapid mobilization in service of the empire!

In other tidings, the treasure-keepers of the Ex-Im Bank report having amassed over five thousand gold talents to invest in building new temples and monuments to the gods circling high overhead. A generous bounty indeed, destined to see many splendid new constellations shine down upon our people!

And finally, dispatches from the Academy confirm that learned astronomers have been charged to investigate strange signs and omens spotted in the night sky. While the scholars remain guarded in their knowledge, we can hope they will shed light on these mysteries in due time.

So rejoice, citizens! The heavens continue to unfold their wonders and portents, keeping all on high alert. Fear not, for Rome stands ready to face whatever the Fates decree!

Tidings from the province of Gallia tell of a new guild formed to support the young artisans and engineers. Though they be but sprouts, their imaginations grow vast as the heavens! Soon their craft shall launch vessels beyond the moon itself! Glory to these intrepid entrepreneurs!

But what's this? Rumblings from Hispania foretell great expansion for the ingenious guild called PLD Space. Their vessel MIURA may appear small, yet it shall pave the road to the greater MIURA Five! One hundred and fifty artisans shall be hired on to aid in its construction. Its reach shall extend far beyond the borders of fair Hispania!

Rejoice, for the future gleams bright for these ambitious legionaries of science and industry! Rome herself beams with pride at their noble endeavors!

>>15746779
I'm interested in your thoughts about water infrastructure bringing water to homes?

>>15746904
Propellers are stupid. wings and jets are nature's preferred shape

>>15746910
>jets
Are you talking about jellyfish? Your picture looks trippy as fuck, saved

>>15746852
is that when your dad will come back with the milk?

>>15746918
:(

>>15746913
https://youtu.be/oVjYtZydMuo?t=1895
one of the most metal speculative evolution concepts out there.

i also advise you to watch the rest, this shit's cool yo.

>>15746852
historically the fanbase has been as wrong with the dates as SpaceX. IMO the launch is still at least a month away

>>15746654
looks considerably more comfortable than the original air-less tires

at any time Biden could wave his magic wand and demand the FAA stop enforcing evil on space-x but of course he wont.

>>15746939
>The US government will let everyone own and operate recreational ICBMs

>>15746939
>WHY WON'T THE BLATANT PUPPET PRESIDENT GET THE FAA AWAY FROM A DISRUPTIVE INNER PARTY MEMBER?!?!

>>15746944
That's not good enough. Only billionares can afford them as is.
WE NEED AFFORDABLE ICBMS FOR EVERYONE

does spaceflight have unions? i am interested in the consequences of colonial strikes.

>>15746929
cool video

>>15746754
just how big is elon's dick

>>15746929
lol I remember this
seemed kind of streching believability at times

>>15746904
name an animal with a bodypart that can spin

>>15746754
yeah what's up with that

>>15746961
human can spin his eyeballs and most his joints allow rotational motion (spinning)

>>15746949
No, but astronauts have gone on strike before

>>15746597
With or without an expendable TBM? Most long tunnels leave two machines entombed in the middle.

>>15746961
Issus coleoptratus has gears

>>15746960
it totally is, there are plenty of reasons why life would never be, or be extremely unlikely to evolve in this way.

doesn't mean it's not cool as fuck though, i wish more was done with the Expidition setting, the world and animals as a concept would be awesome for a crashlanded human to attempt to survive.

>>15746970
that's a myth, assuming you're talking about Skylab. Apollo 7 strike was also a myth

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1702774532174733387

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>>15746968
no we can't. up is always up in our eyes. we can point them slightly different directions. that does not a propeller make
>>15746973
cool! i didn't know that

>>15746990

https://twitter.com/ChrisJBakke/status/1702728620987592896

>>15746971
TBM only costs 15v million $ surprisingly

>>15746995
Mick hasnt debunked it. Good chance it's the real deal

>>15746988
deep space shipyard. 2223. colorized.

>>15746957
9 meters, with full flow staged ejaculation

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>>15746990
Its only been 5 months since the last launch

I already memory holed the last flight

>>15746999
turns out the Mexico alien is just a starlink flare, the timestamps line up with a pass

>>15747011
>suddenly all UAP are explained by MUH STARLINK now
indeed. Mick refuses to look at anything pre-Starlink because it's such an easy crutch now

>>15746961
bacterial tails

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>>15747036
wow

>>15747036
Surface visible on the night side of venus using visible spectrum imagery, although some near-IR is also used on the WISPR cam—so I'm not sure if you could actually see surface features with the human eye

Venus is based

>>15747053
I got to watch the transit out in front of my house through a piece of thick welding glass and several pairs of sunglasses, it was awesome.