/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11126702]

Redpill me on this sodomite

[Anonymous No.11126729]

>>11126702
He liked puzzles, came up with LU matrix decomposition, then kill himself.

[Anonymous No.11126746]

>>11126729
>killed himself
Sad :(

[Anonymous No.11126750]

>>11126702
he pioneered computers and shit, bretty paed

[Anonymous No.11126752]

>>11126702
one of the smartest people who has ever lived, and life cut short because of idiotic human emotion.

[Anonymous No.11126770]

>>11126702
unlike ada lovelace he actually made a contributions to computing and major ones too. homos >= hetero men >> sexually-assorted roasties.

[El Arcón No.11126783]

>>11126702
If you read about the problem with the Sodomites in the Bible, it is obvious that the big problem was that they were rapists and murders, not that they were buttfuckers. This word has gotten twisted.

[Anonymous No.11126815]

>>11126702
Turing was an average fighter, but he was a brilliant scientist.

[Anonymous No.11126819]

>>11126752
Wrong. He was a fraud primarily, and is given the credit only because it fits a narrative promoting values of social liberalism and pluralism.
>>11126815
Average intelligence.

[Anonymous No.11126825]

>>11126819
>hurr durr turing fraud and average
fuck off idiot

[Anonymous No.11126869]

>>11126819
You're given a containment board. Use it, schitzo.

[Anonymous No.11126884]

>>11126702
Alonzo Church did most of the work, but Turning is gay and had a weird death so it's easier for normalfags to dramatize.

>>11126783
Romans 1 suggests otherwise.

[Anonymous No.11126903]

>>11126783
It actually isn't "obvious", which is why centuries of theological allegory behind the meaning of Genesis and further commentary have developed by extremely intelligent people (i.e. 145 IQ+ geniuses) . And their conclusion is much more galaxy brained than your pathetic pea-brained sheep morality: sins of the flesh are worse than murder, incur in their train pride and boasting (whereas any other sin, most are ashamed), and are done so much that it is impossible to keep track of the number done and ceases only with their miserable death. In the train of all this, they implicate any one else involved, and scandal is the worst sin outlined by Christ. NOTE, I didn't even mention sodomy thus far; sins of impurity are mostly looked at through heterosexual acts (e.g. fornication, onanism). Sodomy is the absolute worst of this class of sin, because whereas nature impels the union of male and female for the natural end of child birth by use of their respective parts in the proper way, which at least serves perpetuation of the species if even as a consequence of the pleasure, sodomy denies even that, twofold rejecting man's rationality and even natural purpose (lower than an animal). Or as Plato said

> And whether one makes the observation in earnest or in jest, one certainly should not fail to observe that when male unites with female for procreation the pleasure experienced is held to be due to nature, but contrary to nature when male mates with male or female with female, and that those first guilty of such enormities were impelled by their slavery to pleasure.

[Anonymous No.11126955]

>>11126729
Lu decomposition was created by a normal polish man. Not this sick homosexual

[Anonymous No.11126962]

>>11126903
>sins of the flesh are worse than murder
And yet your priests are all rapists. What a dogshit religion. Full of contradictions. C*tholics worship a false god.

[El Arcón No.11126963]

>>11126884
>Romans 1 suggests otherwise.
No it doesn't. Sodom got destroyed in the Old Testament after they raped that guy's daughters to death. Romans 1 doesn't say anything about Sodomites: the inhabitants of the wicked city of Sodom. The story is in Genesis 16 and 17.

The guy on wikipedia agrees with me, btw:
>Jay Michaelson proposes a reading of the story of Sodom that emphasizes the violation of hospitality as well as the violence of the Sodomites. "Homosexual rape is the way in which they violate hospitality—not the essence of their transgression. Reading the story of Sodom as being about homosexuality is like reading the story of an ax murderer as being about an ax."

[Anonymous No.11126967]

>>11126962
>And yet your [logically nonsensical turn of argument painted with generalization] What a dogshit religion [full-on emotional ranting]. Full of contradictions [after thought].
Very low IQ.

[El Arcón No.11126968]

>>11126963
>after they raped that guy's daughters to death.
Oops, meant to delete this because I got my stories confused. I meant Gen 18-19 too.

[Anonymous No.11126972]

>>11126963
t. 95 IQ brain mixed with sola scriptura.

[Anonymous No.11126973]

>>11126884
>Alonzo Church did most of the work
this bullshit keeps getting spewed here every day but it doesn't make it any less false. They both did important work, but Turing is the one who saved thousands of lives and is estimated to have shortened the war by around 4 years, meaning he actually saved an immeasurable amount of lives
>>11126770
cope r9k incel tranny. She was the history's first programmer and none of your seething will change that

[Anonymous No.11126978]

>>11126968
thanks jon, we all appreciate you posting bible shot you admit is not even accurate biblically. on a science board. good stuff jon

[Anonymous No.11126979]

>>11126973
>Turing is the one who saved thousands of lives and is estimated to have shortened the war by around 4 years, meaning he actually saved an immeasurable amount of lives
You didn't substantiate why or how. His point that him being a homosexual and being told in aggrandized fashion and receiving more credit is EVEN MORE bolstered by your mythical hero tale based on non-existent fictional potentialities.

[Anonymous No.11126981]

>>11126968
Based schizo-jon

[Anonymous No.11126980]

>>11126702
>>11126729
best active thread in /sci/

[Anonymous No.11126982]

>>11126979
>everyone who doesn’t post details about WW2 codebreaking is wrong
please anon, explain to us every detail of the manhattan project

oh wait, you can’t? HAHA SHILL BTFO

[Anonymous No.11126989]

>>11126982
You failed to explain how Turing's contributions were greater than Church's and went along with you assertion that this was so with "Turing is the one who saved thousands of lives and is estimated to have shortened the war by around 4 years, meaning he actually saved an immeasurable amount of lives". Now, your position is painfully untenable and you try make it look as if you are being attacked by an obscurantist. Sorry, you're a brainlet. The other poster wins.

[Anonymous No.11126996]

>>11126979
>You didn't substantiate why or how
you didn't either, dumb frogposter
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18419691
>him being a homosexual
is what got him prosecuted and driven to suicide. Him being gay is only important because it cost him his life. That's it. His achievements were real, not "first gay man to do X and Y". He was a war hero and considered by all historians and computer scientists the father of the modern computer. It's your word against most historians', you envious imbecile. Turing was a cock lover but you sound like an even bigger faggot
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18419691
https://bletchleypark.org.uk/our-story/impact-on-world-war-two/sea
>>11126989
>You failed to explain how Turing's contributions were greater than Church's
you failed to explain how Church's contributions were greater than Turing's
>The other poster wins
ok retarded samefag

[Anonymous No.11127164]

>>11126884
Smart guy. But his most famous invention, the Turing Machine, was invented independently at the same time by Emil Post. Science would literally be exactly the same, barely missing a beat, if Turing had never been born.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–Turing_machine
>>11126973
>Turing is the one who saved thousands of lives and is estimated to have shortened the war by around 4 years
Absolute asspull. Conventional wisdom is that William Tutte was the "hero" at Bletchley Park; but we'll never know since Britain doesn't declassify old documents.
>>11126702
A depraved pervert, EXTREMELY well-connected in both the aristocracy and military intelligence, who eventually got caught. He was given relatively light charges (only raped ONE boy half his age, and the boy was 18) to which he immediately and gladly pleaded guilty. This only happens in plea bargains and cases other sweetheart deals. Not fucking surprising as England is and always has been a playground stronghold of the pedo elites.

[Anonymous No.11127182]

After seeing how many closet and openly flamboyant fags are partners in my sisters top city law firm, I think I’ll take the Milo pill. The gays seem to be at least half a deviation smarter than the rest of the male population. Dykes tend to be low achievers though.

[Anonymous No.11127214]

>>11127164
see >>11126996
>Some historians estimate that Bletchley Park's massive codebreaking operation, especially the breaking of U-boat Enigma, shortened the war in Europe by as many as two to four years

[Anonymous No.11127249]

>>11127214
>some historians claim
Sure. But what historians don't claim Turing was a necessary and irreplaceable member of the team. Unlike Bill Tutte, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._T._Tutte

[Anonymous No.11127273]

>>11126955
And turbo autist Cavendish invented E&M a century before all the physicists who names appear on his discovery did. And Gauss the FFT before Cooley and Tukey.

Getting other people to notice the importance is better than being "first".

[Anonymous No.11127278]

>>11127273
>Getting other people to notice the importance is better than being "first".
oh okay, in that case I'll apply for a job at buzzfeed and write clickbait popsci articles

[Anonymous No.11127281]

>>11126702
a stupid gay kike who fought on the wrong side

[Anonymous No.11127290]

>>11126702
Being gay increases your IQ substantially which is why it's stigmatized by society. The ruling elite is secretly gay.

[Anonymous No.11127293]

>>11127281
>do I fit in now XDD

[Anonymous No.11127296]

>>11127290
is this true?

[Anonymous No.11127306]

>>11127249
>irrelevant whataboutism
typical contrarian reply. Whether he was "considered irreplaceable" or not doesn't change the fact that he saved thousands of lives and possibly millions more. And it doesn't change the fact that Turing contributed enough to computer science to be considered the father of modern computing and become immortalized in history

[Anonymous No.11127307]

>>11127290
Actually, that's false. It's actually the more powerful you become, the more you're attracted to little kids.

[Anonymous No.11127311]

>>11127293
go back

[Anonymous No.11127312]

>>11127307
correlation != causation. This board can't get any more retarded. To make it to the top you have to be a real piece of shit and/or a fucking weirdo

[Anonymous No.11127314]

>>11127307
or it could be because most of the elite is comprised of jews

[Anonymous No.11127317]

>>11126962

[Anonymous No.11127319]

>>11127312
This guy gets it. The immoral attractions are mere side effects.

You need to throw away both morals AND ethics to reach the top, which is usually very hard for a human to accomplish.

[Anonymous No.11127322]

>>11127317
wow how will he ever recover

[Anonymous No.11127326]

>>11127317

[Anonymous No.11127327]

>>11127322
Checked. I dunno prolly go play some switch.

[Anonymous No.11127330]

>>11127306
>Tutte is irrelevant even though historians hail him as the hero of Bletchley Park
>Post is irrelevant even though he made the same civilian discoveries as Turing, at the same time as Turing
>Turing is totally irreplaceable though, even though literally no historians make that claim about his war efforts, and in light of Post's work very few make the claim about his mahematical discoveries
Please tell me you're trolling. Nobody on a board devoted to science and maths can actually be this delusional. Right?

[Anonymous No.11127332]

>>11127326

[Anonymous No.11127340]

>>11127306
>whataboutism
Not at all. Your argument started
>some historians claim.
So go ahead. Show us the historians who claim Alan Turing personally saved lives or whatever. There are plenty of historians saying that about his Bletchley colleague, Bill Tutte: so many that it's on his wikipedia page. Unless you don't actually know or respect history, unless "some historians" was just a rhetorical trick? Same as "whataboutism", "contrarianism" and the other vague, content-less smokescreen accusations?

[Anonymous No.11127346]

>>11127296
I was being ironic but gay people do actually have higher IQs. They are more open to experience and less conformist and both of these things correlate with intelligence. Look it up if you don't believe me.

[Anonymous No.11127347]

>>11127346
>more open
>less conformist
>BAKE THE CAKE BIGOT
[this is what useful idiots actually believe]

[Anonymous No.11127354]

>>11127347
I'm clearly not gay because I'm incapable of understanding your response

[Anonymous No.11127356]

>>11127347
I mean, wouldn't more open non-conformist people be more likely to deviate in terms of gender and the sexuality? Or is this truth too rainbow-pilled for a Chinese fly-fishing forum?

[Anonymous No.11127394]

>>11127356
I would expect open and non-conformist people to take unfashionable, unprofitable views, i.e. the exact opposite of weaponized sexual libertinism in AD 2019

[Anonymous No.11127577]

>>11127278
It's the pole that got people to notice it

[Anonymous No.11127605]

>>11127306
Absolute imbecile. "Father of modern computing and become immortalized in history". What a worthless, stupid, idealist statement. Proof that you're an unstable homosexual who thinks emotionally and not rationally.

[Anonymous No.11127612]

>>11127214
Historians and journalists are not scientists. No scientist would claim Turing was brilliant or irreplaceable.

[Anonymous No.11127804]

>>11126962
I'm not a christian and I agree with him. "Sins of the flesh" destroy a society's morals, which could even lead to an elevated number of murders. The world needs more bogs.

[Anonymous No.11127811]

>>11127804
Yeah, so does murder.

[Anonymous No.11127892]

>>11127811
Murder doesn't necessarily influence others, it is entirely possible that (a)people don't even hear about a particular murder and (b)that people are repulsed by it or even try to distance themselves from it out of fear. Moral failings, on the other hand, are necessarily social activities, so they always attack the very fabric of society, they always influence others to some degree, even if only through normalization.
>but murder can be normalized too
Even in a warzone, while people might be more used to dealing with death they most likely won't try to emulate that behavior unless required(i.e. a soldier)

[Anonymous No.11127896]

Homosexuality doesn't necessarily influence others, it is entirely possible that (a)people don't even hear about two men privately having sex and (b)that people are repulsed by it or even try to distance themselves from it out of fear. Moral failings, on the other hand, are necessarily social activities, so they always attack the very fabric of society, they always influence others to some degree, even if only through normalization.
>but homosexuality can be normalized too
Even in a nightclub, while people might be more used to dealing with gay sex they most likely won't try to emulate that behavior unless desired (i.e. a faggot)

[Anonymous No.11127911]

>>11126702
The redpill on this guy is that
(a) the people campaigning on his behalf are essentially arguing that he was such an important and connected man, his sex crimes should have been covered-up, which is already insane and despicable; and
(b) it's overwhelmingly likely that they actually DID cover them up for exactly that reason, i.e. the affair with the Murray boy is only the tip of a very depraved iceberg of sex crimes at least, and god knows what else.

[Anonymous No.11127917]

>>11127911
>the affair with the Murray boy
>a man had consensual sex with another man
wow it's fucking nothing

[Anonymous No.11127923]

>>11127917
>not knowing what "the tip of the iceberg" signifies in the context of a criminal coverup
Hey kid. This is an 18+ board but I won't tell anyone you were here. We all gotta have some fun, right? Yeah, it's natural. Natural.

[Anonymous No.11127936]

turing will never compete with claude shannon

[Anonymous No.11127943]

>>11127923
>there is no evidence he did anything wrong, but I'm sure he did!
>all gays are pedos, right?

[Anonymous No.11127954]

>>11127911
> his sex crimes should have been covered-up, which is already insane and despicable; and

He did nothing that is illegal today. It is “insane and despicable” that those laws existed at all.

> b) it's overwhelmingly likely that they actually DID cover them up for exactly that reason, i.e. the affair with the Murray boy is only the tip of a very depraved iceberg of sex crimes at least, and god knows what else.

Fascinating conjecture with no evidence. Also, the
“Murray boy” was an adult.

[Anonymous No.11127958]

>>11126962
>Most rapist priests are homosexuals.
Imagine muh shock

[Anonymous No.11127964]

>>11127936
How can those two compete against this young madman solver of higher degree equations at 16yo

[Anonymous No.11127966]

>>11127943
2010
>there is no evidence of those rumors about Sandusky, shame on you for repeating them
2011
>jimmy savile is a respected entertainer and philanthropist, NOT a paedo ok
2016
>bill cosby is quite literally America's honest, fun-loving spiritual Dad
2017
>harvey weinstein is a skilled movie producer, not a sex offender, and dozens of women will vouch for him
2018
>sure jeffrey epstein is a hit with the ladies but THOSE allegations are alex jones tier my friend
2019
You Are Here

[Anonymous No.11127969]

>>11127966
We are talking about something that you allege happened ~70 years ago. If there is no evidence now, there will never be.

Anyway, it's irrelevant to his prominence as a computer scientist.

[Anonymous No.11127975]

>>11127958
Good thing 0.000001% of homosexuals are rapist priests.

[Anonymous No.11127978]

>>11126702
>gays love small bouipucci and twinks, most of them pose in photos like that
n-no they arent pedos, they like male-lolis whats wrong with that!?

[Anonymous No.11127984]

>>11127978
Identical to the tastes of straight men

[Anonymous No.11127996]

>>11126702
Faggot got traumatized as a kid so became a fag but also was pretty good at cryptography so it kinda evens out. Same thing happens with poo in the loo ramanujan. They might be nonwhite and degenerates but maths doesnt care about it

[Anonymous No.11128008]

>>11127969
There's no evidence the Nazis gassed six million jews and magicked their bodies away with so much as a trace of bone or ash. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. As for computer science, that's not the topic of the thread.

[Anonymous No.11128014]

>>11128008
>he denys the holocaust too
You're right, thousands of hours of footage and testimony and confessions and manifestos by nazis are not evidence.

[Anonymous No.11128017]

>Killed himself because he was forced to take HRT
Imagine how cute of a girl he could have been

[Anonymous No.11128024]

>>11128014
If you're seriously telling me you believe everything you read, check out pic related it's pretty eye-opening stuff to guys like you

[Anonymous No.11128048]

>>11128024
I cant tell if this post is satire or not

[Anonymous No.11128055]

>>11128017
I don't think they had facial feminization surgery back then

[Anonymous No.11128060]

>>11128048
And yet you speak with such authority on matters much further removed from your personal experience. How very curious..!

[Anonymous No.11128062]

>>11128060
I wonder which board you come from. Hmm...

[Anonymous No.11128073]

>>11126973
>Allan G. Bromley, in the 1990 article "Difference and Analytical Engines":
>"All but one of the programs cited in her notes had been prepared by Babbage from three to seven years earlier. The exception was prepared by Babbage for her, although she did detect a 'bug' in it. Not only is there no evidence that Ada ever prepared a program for the Analytical Engine, but her correspondence with Babbage shows that she did not have the knowledge to do so."
>Bruce Collier, who later published a biography of Charles Babbage, wrote in his 1970 Harvard University PhD thesis that Lovelace "made a considerable contribution to publicizing the Analytical Engine, but there is no evidence that she advanced the design or theory of it in any way".
>Eugene Eric Kim and Betty Alexandra Toole consider it incorrect to regard Lovelace as the first computer programmer, as Babbage wrote the initial programs for his Analytical Engine, although the majority were never published. Bromley notes several dozen sample programs prepared by Babbage between 1837 and 1840, all substantially predating Lovelace's notes.
>Dorothy K. Stein regards Lovelace's notes as "more a reflection of the mathematical uncertainty of the author, the political purposes of the inventor, and, above all, of the social and cultural context in which it was written, than a blueprint for a scientific development".

[Anonymous No.11128096]

>>11126702
Ill call you a fucking faggot to your face in the grocery store if you get in my way or act dumb too pussy
Im 6’5” 250lbs you would shit your pants