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/sfg/ Spaceflight General Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:32:35 2020 No.11346078 [Reply] [Original]

Gerald Bull edition

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:33:44 2020 No.11346081 File: 181 KB, 1024x1024, Comet67P_Rosetta_1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:35:40 2020 No.11346088 so about that Venus probe have I told you about my ideas for a NUCLEAR THERMAL RAMJET yet

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:39:16 2020 No.11346094 File: 1.19 MB, 1920x1080, asteroids.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11346081

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:44:46 2020 No.11346108 File: 149 KB, 679x824, ur anus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>>11346075 Not to mention the $50million stress-tests for the beachball, taking place over 5 (extended to 10) years before the ball can be gopro-rated.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:45:20 2020 No.11346110
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>>11345955
>shitting in space seems super complicated
this is one of Richard Garriott's favorite stories to tell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1DYJIIqyQA
>>11345925
>What is on Titan?
also a nice thick atmosphere for re-entry with parachutes and wings, maybe balloons too for flying around

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:56:23 2020 No.11346144 A camera able to film real-time movies on dragonfly would be so cool, though I doubt it will happen, if only because it would take ages to transmit to Earth

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:58:08 2020 No.11346148 >>11346144 Earth-gov needs to start financing proper solar system laser-comms infrastructure sooner rather than later

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:18:54 2020 No.11346203 File: 271 KB, 1000x1341, pesquet_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11346110 here's a few pages from a comic about Thomas Pesquet training, it's pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:19:53 2020 No.11346207 >>11346203 why is half of it in French

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:21:55 2020 No.11346214 File: 249 KB, 1000x1341, pesquet_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11346208 >>11346207 it's a French comic, they're training at Houston here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:23:10 2020 No.11346217 File: 240 KB, 1000x1341, pesquet_4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11346214

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:23:19 2020 No.11346218

>>11346148
I bet you could make some decent relays for not a crazy amount of money that you could park at both Earth-Sun L3, 4, and 5 and Mars-Sun L3, 4, and 5. It'll probably require something like Starship to make such a project financially reasonable though.

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Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:29:03 2020 No.11346234

>>11346218
Sun-Terra L4 and L5 science outposts are a must
big laser comm relays for unbroken communications to Mars and the outer planets, and slots to mount arbitrary science payloads, like those condo-sats they're talking about building in various sun-synchronous orbits

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:36:33 2020 No.11346245 >>11346234 >Sun-Terra L4 and L5 science outposts >unbroken communications to Mars and the outer planets The extra latency is definitely preferable to having a complete blackout during opposition, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:39:31 2020 No.11346257 >>11346218 >>11346234 Laser coms would be great, though Dragonfly would also need an orbital relay around Titan

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:41:36 2020 No.11346261 >>11346257 Yes, you'd need to install a big network of lasercomm relay telescopes across the entire solar system

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:42:24 2020 No.11346264 >>11346257 >orbital relay I was thinking that too. It could off-load quite a bit of equipment weight, plus get kino pix of Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:43:29 2020 No.11346270 >>11346264 how many would you need? how big would the Earth-Saturn laser receiving telescopes need to be

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:45:53 2020 No.11346276 >>11346270 Nah, you just need one, it'd be there to uplink from the dragonfly, then it could just send pix once dragonfly stops working.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:49:21 2020 No.11346284 >>11346276 you could save mundo weight off of all subsequent probes by having it serve more than just dragonfly and everybody who's ever played around with communication relays in KSP knows that just one mondo relay sat will never work

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:49:43 2020 No.11346287 >>11346264 >>11346270 You could park one near Titan, the gravitational interactions are more complex but it does seem to have two stable points rather than the usual five.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:55:08 2020 No.11346305 ORANGE ROCKET BAD

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 15:59:20 2020 No.11346325 >>11346284 I was going to say that, but held back when I thought of how in the time it took to get another probe out, the orbiter could stop working. That could be a bit of a problem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 16:01:48 2020 No.11346331 File: 56 KB, 800x533, expendable_launch_tower.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11346305 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 17:23:11 2020 No.11346520 Some autist just blew SpinLaunch the fuck out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinLaunch

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 17:39:52 2020 No.11346557

>>11346520
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpinLaunch#Justification
The interesting part.
>Given the engineering effort involved, and the non-reusability of the spacecraft vehicle, it could in fact be cheaper and easier to develop a medium sized non-reusable single stage to orbit vehicle to launch payloads in that range. A partially reusable two stage to orbit launch vehicle could also represent a cheaper method of small satellite launch.
I'm amazed Wikipedia let this one through.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 17:54:23 2020 No.11346618 RocketLab is launching some NRO payload momentarily. Wonder what it is

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 18:10:08 2020 No.11346676 File: 3.51 MB, 5929x3897, DSC_0051 (3).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] U+1F914

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 19:03:13 2020 No.11346793 raptor in boca chica. New one? old one? probably old one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIoiCurhio4

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 19:27:43 2020 No.11346842 >>11346618 It got delayed by a few minutes. 1:22 UTC, or 55 minutes from now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 19:49:14 2020 No.11346880 >>11346520 >the pressure on the outside wall of the liquid oxygen tank would be approximately 112 Megapascals (~16250 psi, 1120 bar) >approximately 1120 bar holy fucking shit, spinlaunch is never going to work. Can any anons verify that number?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 19:51:46 2020 No.11346888 RocketLab Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDutnzddy4

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:11:22 2020 No.11346925 >>11346888 rescheduled apparently, 38 minutes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:22:18 2020 No.11346938 So much for the fantasy of increasing launch rates at spacex huh Just stay at one a month forever

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:22:53 2020 No.11346941 File: 153 KB, 800x450, crying_cat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11346925 Delayed again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:24:19 2020 No.11346944 https://twitter.com/zSaint87/status/1223038495641559042

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:25:37 2020 No.11346945 SpaceX is planing for Starship development/launch site in California again. This will now give them 3 access points to space. Florida, Texas, California.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:26:43 2020 No.11346949 >>11346945 I don't believe that

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:27:55 2020 No.11346955 >>11346949 they seem serious. 300 jobs, would be operational in 90 days or something. Starship production only

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:29:25 2020 No.11346959 >>11346955 I know what people are claiming, I just don't believe it. Where's this information coming from?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:31:37 2020 No.11346963 >>11346955 Wouldn't that delay Starship's development?

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:32:45 2020 No.11346966

>>11346959
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/30/spacex-may-build-starship-rockets-in-port-of-los-angeles.html

>Port of Los Angeles spokesman Phillip Sanfield confirmed that negotiations were ongoing with SpaceX but declined to comment further.

>Buscaino said that SpaceX CFO Bret Johnsen came to his office two weeks ago and apologized for backing out of the deal the first time, adding that SpaceX had a new vision for how to continue developing Starship. The rocket, designed to be fully reusable and carry as many as 100 people to space, has so far been built and tested at SpaceX facilities in Texas and Florida. But the majority of SpaceX’s more than 6,000 employees work at its headquarters within driving distance of the Port of L.A., so Buscaino believes it’s a natural addition for the company.

>“They want to be up and running within the next 90 days,” Buscaino said.
>The Port of L.A.’s commissioners will discuss the permit next Thursday, with a deal coming as soon as the commission’s Feb. 20 meeting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:34:30 2020 No.11346971 >>11346966 >in negotiations it's an overexcited politician for the port of LA

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:40:01 2020 No.11346982 >>11346945 >>11346966 >Port of Los Angeles How would they deal with the sound of Starship taking off and landing in such an urban area?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:42:19 2020 No.11346984 >>11346982 they build it near the port then ship it out on a barge to the launch site (probably vandenberg)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:42:26 2020 No.11346985 >>11346982 it would just be to build Starship, not launch it. remember back in the carbon fiber days of SpaceX they built parts there for the initial test articles, before everything got scraped for stainless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 20:55:36 2020 No.11346997 >>11346982 Its possible this may just be Raptor/essential parts production site for reducing in shipping cost.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:07:05 2020 No.11347002 Eight minutes to go!

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:07:21 2020 No.11347004
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>>11346088
>>nuclear thermal ramjet
for what? What science is it gonna do? And why do you have to use a nuclear thermal ramjet? It's been shown that for aerial missions that a solar powered airplane can fly in place and that a solar powered hybrid airship would last a pretty long time in the clouds. For most of the science we currently want to do, a couple landers that last about an hour on the surface are sufficient. The challenge is that the geologists want to land one in a tessera. The problem is that Tessera have extremely rugged terrain, so there's a risk of the lander getting destroyed or flipped over upon landing. NASA does not like landing stuff in terrain that's not flat.
>>11346057
>>DUCT-TAPE A GOPRO TO A BEACHBALL FULL OF HELIUM AND THROW IT INTO THE GODDAMNED ATMOSPHERE ALREADY
russians already sent weather balloons to venus and the images a go pro sends back wouldn't have much if any scientific value. It'll probably be in the clouds most of the time so there won't be much to see. In short, it'd be a huge waste of taxpayer money for what amounts essentially to an art project. Weather balloons with packed to brim with droppable sensor pods including cameras have been proposed:
https://trs.jpl.nasa.gov/bitstream/handle/2014/13986/00-0365.pdf?sequence=1
And this was as a Discovery Class Mission, meaning cost capped and considered a cheap mission by NASA standards. It was rejected in favor of other missions.
http://mentallandscape.com/V_Vega.htm
>>During the night-time portion of the journey, considerable variations in light levels were detected by the photometer, possibly due to thin spots in the lower cloud layer, REVEALING THE THERMAL GLOW OF THE PLANET'S SURFACE.
Fug, I think we should send one now, just for the hell of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:07:41 2020 No.11347007 >>11347002 *36 minutes to go

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:08:16 2020 No.11347008 >>11347002 YOU FUCKING JINXED IT YOU FUCKING SHITTER GO COMMIT UNSCHEDULED RAPID DISASSEMBLY

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:09:12 2020 No.11347011
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>>11347004
>And this was as a Discovery Class Mission, meaning cost capped and considered a cheap mission by NASA standards. It was rejected in favor of other missions.
>considered a cheap mission by NASA standards
>It was rejected in favor of ((other missions))

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:18:55 2020 No.11347028 >>11347011 In favor of the Dawn mission and Kepler Space telescope.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:22:08 2020 No.11347035

>>11347004
>what science is it gonna do
well it won't be beholden to the winds, that's for sure
and no worrying about solar irradiation, it can go as high or as low as it wants on the day or the night side of the planet
it can investigate the habitable cloud layer without worrying about getting destroyed by winds

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:25:33 2020 No.11347038 File: 342 KB, 2000x1556, gerald bull.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11346078 quite a mischievous lookin nigga in the background

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:35:37 2020 No.11347063

>>11346955
>Starship production only
My guess: they'll probably put them on barges when built. They could set up a polar launch site near Vandy.
>>11346963
Why would that delay it? They'll just apply whatever they learn at Boca Chica.
>>11346997
Good point, doesn't have to be whole ship. If it's just engines and other "small" parts, no problem shipping them to McGregor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:48:06 2020 No.11347087 Rocket Lab is live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDutnzddy4&feature=emb_title

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:48:10 2020 No.11347088 >>11347008 livestream finally live!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:50:28 2020 No.11347095 Is the stream fucked up for anyone else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:52:19 2020 No.11347098 >>11347095 It is for me, audio keeps cutting out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:57:08 2020 No.11347108 Where's the launch kitty?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:57:46 2020 No.11347109 HAHAHA the sheep are confused!

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>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 21:59:19 2020 No.11347115 Need to get some moe anime girl art of Electron-tan. Cute Maori girl with a bald eagle and sheep plushie under each arm

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:00:45 2020 No.11347116 >>11347098 same

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:00:48 2020 No.11347117 Man this audio is fucky, just how bad is the internet in New Zealand?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:02:02 2020 No.11347118 still don't get why they don't make battery hotswap and eject a milestone on their launch timeline.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:02:10 2020 No.11347120 File: 1.77 MB, 896x985, waifuit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347115 This. The low amount of spaceflight gijinka waifus is disappointing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:03:05 2020 No.11347123 >>11347117 just wait until Starlink goes live!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:03:19 2020 No.11347124 it's working obviously but for some reason I really hate the idea of the battery powered turbopumps

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:03:34 2020 No.11347126 Another 60 shrapnel charges in orbit; another 10 seconds off the GoGurt-stained doomsday clock.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:03:40 2020 No.11347127 >>11347124 What about them do you hate exactly?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:04:15 2020 No.11347131 sick spins

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:04:41 2020 No.11347132 >>11347115 >>11347120 >Cute Maori girl with a bald eagle and sheep plushie under each arm I have a mighty need, would need to be flat chested or small tits though because small payload Go to /i/ or one of the art boards?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:05:10 2020 No.11347133 oof that first stage just fucking died

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:07:14 2020 No.11347136 incredible audio desync

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:08:08 2020 No.11347138

>>11347127
don't know, there is no reational reason. maybe it's that it requires an electrical system an motors while turbine powered engines will run just fine on fuel alone (unless you have those weird abominations with hydrogenperoxide powered turbines) but that doesn't really make sense since turbines and turbine-turbopump seals are hideously complex on their own

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:09:10 2020 No.11347141 >>11347132 /a/ has drawthreads

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:09:40 2020 No.11347142 >>11347132 Just don't let Shad get a hold of that.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:11:42 2020 No.11347144

>>11347138
there's something hideously beautiful about the arcane machinery that powers stuff like the RS-25 and the Raptor, and Rocket Labs shortcut all that bullshit and slap a big motor and battery on there
it's the table flip of rocket engine cycles

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:12:29 2020 No.11347145 >>11347132 how would your represent the hotswap batteries? a trap that ditches their padded bra?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:13:52 2020 No.11347146 >>11347145 big can of monster energy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:13:53 2020 No.11347147 >>11347145 She's got a backpack, cause she's a little girl.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:15:15 2020 No.11347150 >>11347145 Backpack or fanny pack. Clothes would be black w/white stripes to be optional

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:15:21 2020 No.11347151 >>11347147 I like it

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:16:12 2020 No.11347153

>>11347144
nicely put, pretty sure it's that. even open cycle designs have some sort of rough beauty to them and staged combustion designs like RS-25, Raptor, NK-33, RD-whatever just push the edge of what is possible with our current understanding of metallurgy and engineering to harness raw, almost uncontrollable power. The electric engine to replace that just feels like a step back, a cheap cop out. Which it basically is.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:23:09 2020 No.11347166

>>11347035
>> low as it wants
temperature would become a problem at some point. The increase in atmospheric density will also increase drag and things might get weird if you fly low enough that it's breathing supercritical CO2. Corrosion will get interesting, especially cause of the high mass flux through the engine.
>>habitable
not practically. It's too hard to extract hydrogen.
>>getting destroyed by winds
the vega balloons were just fine in the wind. It's much easier to handle wind if you move with it. We know from the vega balloon data that venus probably has convection cells with an average size about 4 km, so there's the possibility for turbulence which could stall the ramjet. Flying into turbulence is a bigger problem than moving with it. Flying into a mass of air moving up and then into a mass of air moving down creates the familiar shaking sensation in airplanes.
>no worrying about solar irradiation
that's nice, but is it worth the cost of developing a completely fucking new nuclear reactor that breathes sulfuric acid and potentially has to operate through wildly different flight regimes. Oh and there's the whole issue of how you prevent the radiation, some of which is highly penetrating neutrons, from interfering with sensitive scientific instruments. I mean solar cells are already good enough.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:25:19 2020 No.11347177 >>11347166 yeah you raise good points but that's not very PLUTO of you

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 23:50:56 2020 No.11347338 File: 371 KB, 1536x2048, EPYGkpOWoAAiuST.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1223086517620371458 >Stage 1 made it all the way in again!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 23:53:56 2020 No.11347348 >>11347338 >Stage 1 made it all the way in again! Will they post pictures?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 00:06:00 2020 No.11347375 >>11346094 Fakest miniature model I've ever seen. The NASA Jews aren't even trying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 00:13:21 2020 No.11347388 >>11347338 I would hope Estronaut was making that face in a self-aware kind of way, but I know better. I really respect the effort and research he puts into his videos but the rest of him is a living breathing soiboi meme.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 00:18:00 2020 No.11347393 File: 47 KB, 554x554, 1550537777835.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347388 >estronaut

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 00:36:04 2020 No.11347426 >>11347388 >/pol/ memes haha soi /pol/ incels are upset they can’t grow facial hair.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 00:39:05 2020 No.11347432 >>11347393 newfag detected

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 00:39:15 2020 No.11347433 >>11347426 I despise /pol/shit with all my being but Tim needs to learn how to control his dang self

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 00:45:23 2020 No.11347441 >>11347426 >implying it's because the facial hair

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 00:52:41 2020 No.11347459 >>11347433 Why? Is he addicted to heroin or something?

>>	Garfield Fri Jan 31 00:54:55 2020 No.11347468 >>11347459 Because he acts like a borderline hysterical woman about things when an iota of stoic professionalism would be a lot more appropriate to the situation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 01:05:05 2020 No.11347490 >>11347459 he needs to understand the subtle art of understatement

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 01:09:52 2020 No.11347498 >>11347490 yep, he's about as subtle as a brick wrapped in lead foil

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 01:59:27 2020 No.11347594 Would this work https://youtu.be/BntQvVQWejg

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 02:21:13 2020 No.11347635 GET IN NERDS WE ARE GOING TO MARS

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 02:29:59 2020 No.11347644 File: 1.01 MB, 827x1299, musky.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Now check these dubs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 02:32:15 2020 No.11347646 File: 375 KB, 446x701, elongy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347644 it needs some adjustment

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 02:38:43 2020 No.11347652 File: 66 KB, 1200x675, Al-Gore.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347646 >>11347644 Haha, the .pngs are confused

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 02:40:40 2020 No.11347656 File: 317 KB, 401x631, elongy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347652 this one should point at the dubs better when you expand it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 02:42:19 2020 No.11347657 >>11347656 But is it optimized?

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 04:27:59 2020 No.11347782 >>11347375 >thinking that NASA actually gets more than 1% of the annual budget >thinking that Jews don't exist in the military and public service

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 04:36:16 2020 No.11347795 >>11347338 I fucking love _soy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 04:47:57 2020 No.11347805 File: 15 KB, 497x617, images (1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347338 Turly uncanny

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 05:41:05 2020 No.11347862 >>11347338 I’m annoyed that Blue gave this basedboy one of their super-secret factory tours, though I guess it’s good exposure for them...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 06:11:09 2020 No.11347902 File: 862 KB, 827x1299, melon.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347646 >it needs some adjustment Ofcourse it does

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 06:27:57 2020 No.11347939

>>11346880
Number looks legit. The idea is pure bullshit. Dude has clearly never seen a vessel rated for over 1000 bar, much less one with 1m internal diameter. Things are even worse in this case since the load is asymmetrical. The whole vehicle has to be asymmetrical, while still being aerodynamically stable. And all this engineering nightmare just for what, launching a really weird contraption with a limited range of payloads out of atmosphere at a tiny fraction of orbital speed?
Oh and all the neighbours within a few hundred km range would sure love the mach 6 sonic booms.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 06:59:10 2020 No.11348000 File: 3 KB, 126x124, Laughing Mario Reaction.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347388 >Estronaut >>11347426 >What, someone has a different outlook on le funny redditor, he must be a /pol/ nazi!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 07:46:50 2020 No.11348082 File: 320 KB, 287x713, 1484415120783.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347644 >>11347646 needs to be a .gif

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 07:48:00 2020 No.11348088 >>11347902 >>11348082 haha lol nvm I just woke up

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 07:49:18 2020 No.11348092

>>11347388
That face was shown by youtube to be statistically significant in garnering views for videos that have such a face in their preview thumbnails. Evidently, it has to do with toddlers who spam click and watch anything with such faces over and over. The news got out and literally everyone started doing it to get more views. People not knowing what was going on started emulating it in everything else thinking it was cool and hip.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 09:24:52 2020 No.11348297
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>>11347177
yeah well too bad. There's sort of a case for nuclear ramjets on jupiter, but Venus I don't think so. http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/library/meetings/annual/jun02/510Maise.pdf
Thing is that the budget for planetary science isn't all that much and there's a lot of places to explore. Some places are higher than others. And there's certainly not enough money to develop a nuclear ramjet for venus and that's not planetary science's mission either. That's the space technology mission directorate's job. They get even less money and have even been held hostage by senator Shelby. Also, a bunch of proposed planetary science missions got absolutely fucked when NASA cancelled the development of the advanced stirling radioisotope generator(ASRG). It would have been a more efficient RTG. It was supposed to supply power for months to years, but there were reliability issues so it started acting funny after just 7 days. So if you are too dependent on one tech you can really get fucked over if it don't work out. One thing some of the planetary science missions do is partner with industry to develop some of the needed tech. Another reason why Venus isn't too popular is that when industry hears about Venus, they just leave the room. Keep an eye on NASA's proposed long lived insitu explorer mission though. They want to send a lander that can last 1 month on Venus. It's a precursor to what planetary scientists consider the ultimate venus mission, landing a long lasting seismometer on Venus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 09:37:56 2020 No.11348322 File: 25 KB, 530x298, 0377CACC-92AC-4140-9175-6C5CDFFA75F4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11347644

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 09:40:21 2020 No.11348326 >>11348322 Go bring down Boeing instead Elon. Stop fucking around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 09:56:38 2020 No.11348375 >>11348297 >a month on Venus Christ, what fucking semiconductor chemistry will they be using? At least the environment makes tiny molten salt batteries feasible, but the computing hardware would be tricky.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 10:27:02 2020 No.11348447 >>11348092 At least it's not as bad as clickbait titles. Sometimes I can't find a specific type of video I'm looking for because all the titles are vague as hell clickbait that tell nothing about what the video is. Its the worst for gaming videos.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 10:38:31 2020 No.11348467 >>11348297 >Another reason why Venus isn't too popular is that when industry hears about Venus, they just leave the room yes, that is the appropriate reaction to hearing the word "Venus"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 10:53:27 2020 No.11348505 >>11348375 Silicon carbide. We can now make decently simple SiC integrated circuits

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:08:54 2020 No.11348535 File: 8 KB, 230x219, huh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11348467 Why?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:11:12 2020 No.11348541 Tell me about Kwangmyongsong-4. Is it working? Is it good? Is the criticism western propaganda? Is NK lying about its functionality? Why is NK not allowed to have a satellite?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:12:37 2020 No.11348543 >>11348541 They can have as many satellites as they want, just don't smash it into other peoples shit or heads.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:21:16 2020 No.11348561

>>11348541
>Tell me about Kwangmyongsong-4.
It's a spy satellite.

>Is it working?
Seems like it, but I wouldn't trust North Korean sources about it's functionality.

>Is it good?
It's a spy satellite. Make of it what you will.

>Is the criticism western propaganda?
What criticism specifically?

>Is NK lying about its functionality?
Since they lied about the first Kwangmyongsong, it could be possible that they could be lying about the specifics of this one. Although, this one is in orbit at least.

>Why is NK not allowed to have a satellite?
It's not the fact that North Korea wants a satellite that has everyone else worried. It's the fact that North Korea wants nuclear ICBMs to threaten other countries with, and launching satellites is a path towards developing the technology.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:21:28 2020 No.11348562

>>11348541
>Why is NK not allowed to have a satellite?
because if they use it to crash it into other satellites, there is a possibility of causing a cascade where satellite debris destroys more satellites and makes more debris and make launching into space from anywhere on Earth impossible

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:26:52 2020 No.11348575 >>11348535 Venus a shit. Gravity well of Earth with inhospitable surface, useless atmosphere, and no moon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:32:18 2020 No.11348596 >>11348575 also almost no axis rotation, one-face planets a shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:39:05 2020 No.11348616 Who won the space race? No American/Russian biased replies pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:43:10 2020 No.11348626 >>11348616 the cold war was just >which country got the better Nazi rocket scientists so Nazi Germany, I guess

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:43:49 2020 No.11348628

>>11348596
That wouldn't even be an issue if the place had a more reasonable atmospheric makeup. If humans could exist there with minimal habitat control, it'd be a great resource. Bases along the terminator would be a reasonable temperature, and the sun side could host gargantuan solar farms.

It'd be a great place for research too dangerous to conduct on Earth, and with no biosphere to worry about, resource extraction would have almost no limitations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:44:00 2020 No.11348629 File: 51 KB, 1280x592, 1579606659832.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11348616 the Space Industrial Complex won

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:48:03 2020 No.11348639

>>11348616
Nobody won. Bickering over milestones is pointless because the space race was predicated on political dick-waving rather than a real national desire to extend humanity's reach, so the momentum died when one side reached the target both were going for.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 11:49:09 2020 No.11348644

>>11348616
IMO, no one. America beat the Soviets to the moon and had overall the superior space program, but then that all got gutted once Apollo was over. The Soviets had the benefit of taking spaceflight seriously before anyone else who had the industrial capability and had the best booster engines in the world, but has floundered since and the remains of their space program is just riding on momentum from the Soviet era.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:00:20 2020 No.11348673 >>11348626 Source?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:02:40 2020 No.11348674 >>11348673 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Osoaviakhim

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:03:09 2020 No.11348678

>>11348535
it's a hell world. There is compelling evidence for active volcanism on Venus within the last couple years. Some candidate lava fields might be 100s of km in size.
>>11348628
>> a more reasonable atmospheric makeup
if it had more hydrogen, cloud cities would actually work. Although if it had more hydrogen and thus water, then the atmosphere would be much stormier and cloud cities would probably not be possible. Water vapor and other condensables make air masses unstable. If it moves up a bit, it cools. Because there's water vapor, it condenses out providing heat which makes it go up. Cause venus doesn't have much water vapor or really sulfuric acid, the atmosphere's much more stable. But because there's so little stuff in the clouds if you want to extract significant amounts of material, you need the mass flux of a jet engine to extract reasonable amounts of material.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:06:18 2020 No.11348687 >>11348674 Thanks, why were Nazi scientists so much more advanced?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:08:39 2020 No.11348692 >>11348687 Because Nazi Germany was the only country who was seriously pursuing rocketry technology at the time. Every other country was more focused on fighting World War 2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:24:28 2020 No.11348747 File: 460 KB, 1190x595, Artemis 2020 2.0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11348629 That they did.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:30:58 2020 No.11348773 >>11348747 >Numquam evadere nos Terra

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:35:19 2020 No.11348782 >>11348773 Got a specific font style you'd like for that, Sir?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:40:49 2020 No.11348796 File: 463 KB, 1190x595, Artemis 2020 now with more demoralization.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11348773 Like this maybe?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:41:58 2020 No.11348799 >>11348796 >>11348782 Either something really professional or really goofy, whichever is funnier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:43:47 2020 No.11348803 >>11348799 I slap shit together in GIMP for shits and giggles in 5 minutes or less. Professional will never enter into the equation. Still, I do like trying my best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:45:22 2020 No.11348805 >>11348803 Your service is greatly appreciated. You're doing good work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:49:24 2020 No.11348813 >>11348803 how do you get the text to do what you want

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 12:59:58 2020 No.11348825

>>11348813
I use the text tool, select all the text, I make a path, in this case just a two point line. Then, I right click the text, select "text along path". I now have a new path with the outline of the text in the same orientation the previous path had. I can now fill in with a solid color. It's clever enough to remember that you had anti-aliasing on the text too, so the fill gets anti-aliased. Works with more complex paths too.

GIMP is powerful, but probably clunky as fuck if you're used to photoshop. I'm not used to photoshop, so I find *that* clunky. I typeset manga and shit in GIMP to many people's endless complaints.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 13:16:00 2020 No.11348861 >>11347338 >Opened mouth If I had time machine, first thing I would do is sending all soys to 1960s Vietnam

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 13:23:19 2020 No.11348878 File: 464 KB, 1190x595, Artemis 2020 any more demoralized now and I'm reaching for my whisky bottle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11348796 I think I'm gonna call this one my last attempt, at least for tonight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:12:14 2020 No.11348992 File: 176 KB, 537x806, 1575422086740.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can I get a Fast Breakdown on the current Artemis Program plans? Bald Mannley was talking about bills that could limit it to just a single landing and no gateway?

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:14:13 2020 No.11348996

>>11348992
Touch and go on the moon in 2028 and maybe a swing by Mars some time around 2033 if the new bill passes. No in-situ resource shit on the moon, no commercial shit on the moon. Gateway turned into some vague maybe on the vague maybe that is Mars.

hence >>11348878

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:15:49 2020 No.11348999 >>11348996 Oh and I forgot, any lander must be developed in such a way that NASA owns it, which suspiciously and surprising absolutely nobody, fits only Boeing's proposal.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:18:54 2020 No.11349003
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>>11348996
>>11348999
Thanks, found wiki too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_program#House_Authorization_Bill_of_2020

nice triple

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:20:31 2020 No.11349011 File: 35 KB, 640x480, lucy-football.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11349003

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:29:46 2020 No.11349037 >>11348996 so Artemis is basically dead and the remains pushed off to somewhere in 8-10 years. which means never in space industry terms. fucking shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:32:19 2020 No.11349043 >>11349037 Remember that this is just a proposal by the House, it hasn't been approved.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:33:21 2020 No.11349047

>>11349037
If this shit passes? You bet. Back to square zero, do not pass go, do not collect jack shit, remember that the same cunts who introduced this bill also has the say over who gets access to space, at least from the US.
It's basically throwing in the towel.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:41:04 2020 No.11349075 >>11348992 >Bald Mannley was talking about bills that could limit it to just a single landing and no gateway? Did he post something about that on this twitter? I can't find anything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:44:44 2020 No.11349090 >>11349043 >>11349047 i see. sorry i am not really familliar with the american political process. let's hope for the best

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:47:12 2020 No.11349098

>>11349075
It's right there in the bill verbatim. One "Flag and Footsteps" mission to the moon in 2028, aka Apollo 2.0 Selfie Opportunity, no moonbase, Gateway relegated to a Mars mission that does not exist, single manned Mars orbit maybe by 2033.

>>11349090
I'm not intimately familiar with the US political procedure either, but I'm familiar with politics in general. It's the same everywhere. This bill is basically "we're going to send shit down the line 2-3 terms and let them deal with it, meanwhile we'll satisfy our constituents by getting Boeing jobs to our states".

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:48:28 2020 No.11349102

>>11349098
>It's right there in the bill verbatim. One "Flag and Footsteps" mission to the moon in 2028, aka Apollo 2.0 Selfie Opportunity, no moonbase, Gateway relegated to a Mars mission that does not exist, single manned Mars orbit maybe by 2033.
I know that. I've read the bill. But I was curious on what Manley had to say about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 14:54:30 2020 No.11349129 >>11349102 Sorry man, I'm fucking drunk. No idea.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 15:36:56 2020 No.11349255

All this talk about a bill that’s already dead on arrival in it’s current form...firstly the Vice President and NASA administrator aren’t happy with the bill (potential veto), next the minority (Republican) members of the subcommittee admit “this isn’t the bill they would have put forward”, next the aforementioned committee get pressured into amending their bill during the markup so that the Artemis nomenclature is written into law and IRSU stuff is allowed (as long as it’s not funded by the ‘Moon to Mars’ section of the budget?), now the committee are planning to wait until the FY2021 NASA budget proposal is released before they fully markup the bill, so it can be modified to better fit the proposal and furthermore, this committee has been sent numerous letters by several powerful aerospace lobbying organisations asking them to modify the bill (specifically in relation to the lunar lander language), commercial space firms have also given some Reps an earful and the chairwoman of the subcommittee was pressured into saying she doesn’t reject Artemis and “this is only the beginning of the process” at a recent commercial spaceflight conference.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:05:16 2020 No.11349368 File: 42 KB, 768x545, 1505343055930.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11349075 Disregard that I suck cocks. Was Felix on What About It who was talking about the bill. https://youtu.be/DpNhyHqfj3c?t=421

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:09:03 2020 No.11349387

>>11349255
Of course the bill was going to be changed. It went against everything NASA was setting up for the last couple of years. What I think was more concerning about the bill are the forces behind it. It showed that there is a group within the US government who would aim to set back space flight for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:10:47 2020 No.11349394 >>11349387 spaceflight is hard to sell as a political platform so there are people who would rather redirect funds to things that will get them reelected

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:11:54 2020 No.11349404 >>11348773 >Never to escape our earth Pretty good, I think. Not sure the inifinitive can actually be used like that, but if it can, that's pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:14:25 2020 No.11349412 >>11349098 It has to be brought into alignment with the version in the Upper House (the Senate), and a lot of people will be pissed about the changes in the Senate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:16:54 2020 No.11349420 >>11349404 I don't understand much Latin. I just used Google Translate until the line could be translated between English and Latin without the wording being changed. You got a better suggestion?

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:22:48 2020 No.11349439

>>11348639

This is sort of misleading in a way. While the Cold War element played its role, the conception of government was different back then and a space agency would have been seen as undertakeable for exactly that: to advance and move forward progress in a new worthwhile domain for the public and national good.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 17:55:44 2020 No.11349684
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>>11349420
Ok, so I've spent some time refreshing my latin just now. The thing you were writing there was the closest to:

Never to escape our earth.

Although earth in this case needs to be Terram because of declinations(it's accusative, I think).
And it would have to be nostri (our) instead of nos (us) in that case(genitive).
So:
"Numquam evadere terra nostri"

As I'm messing with Google translate myself, however, I realize, what you were trying to say was probably something more like:

We will never leave (the) earth.

Google really fucking fails here. An explicit subject like Nos is entirely unneccessary in latin.
Pronouns are generally implicit in latin and are just hidden in the form of the verb. This kills the google algorithm.
In general, it seems to utterly fail at latin declinations. This is barely apparent in English as English doesn't really have anything like that. But I translated it to German instead, which does have a lot of it and it's a complete mess and gives me the impression Google didn't even try.

Anyway, here's what I came up with(Evadere in future1 1st person plural):

"Numquam Evademus terram"
We will never leave (the) earth.

"Numquam Evademus Nostri Terram."
We will never leave our earth.

"Numquam Evademus Hanc Terram"
We will never leave this earth.

Also it's latin. As far as I remember, latin doesn't give a single shit about sentence structure at all, so I'm pretty sure you can arrange the words in any order.
e.g.
"Numquam Hanc Terram Evademus"
or:
"Terram Nostri Evademus Numquam"

ORRRRRR
I fucked something up and this is still shitty latin. I dunno. It's been ages and looking stuff up I vaguely remember will only get you so far.
At least ACI and Ablativus Absolutus weren't involved. That was the real shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 18:05:13 2020 No.11349710 File: 2.52 MB, 360x270, neeeeeerd.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11349684 Good job though! "Numquam Evademus terram" as the motto of the NASA-Boeing partnership. Can terram be capitalized here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 18:10:37 2020 No.11349720 >>11349710 Hopefully other people won't mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lczHvB3Y9s

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 18:13:13 2020 No.11349729 File: 2.15 MB, 718x404, 1551606667700.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11349720 Won't mind the latin lecture, I meant.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 18:18:11 2020 No.11349747 We just have to wait until 2030s when China will land people on the Moon. Then NASA will get all the money they need.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 18:24:31 2020 No.11349768 >>11349729 I want to see the flatfags disprove this one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 18:27:13 2020 No.11349774 File: 271 KB, 1280x960, 1580387104103.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11349720 Now write it one hundred times!

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 18:31:34 2020 No.11349786

>>11349684
For fuck's sake, terram might be wrong. It probably has to be Ablative because it's expressing a spacial separation. Which ironically would lead me right back to Terra.
Fuck this. I'm done.

>Can terram be capitalized here?
Romans didn't have small letters so write in all caps or whatever. It's all equally correct.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 19:11:32 2020 No.11349867

>>11349387
NASA shit the bed on that bill, at least on the 2028 deadline part. Do remember NASA already had a return to the moon in 2028 with current funding levels. The 2024 goal needed additonal funding that they have yet to release, so it's on them to produce it.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 19:24:37 2020 No.11349900

>>11349867
point is the 2028 deadline has/had the same meaning as the 203x goal of flying to Mars.
it would be possible to build something in that time, but no real efforts are made. it just sounds better to the public than to just say yeah we are not working on it right now.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 19:36:26 2020 No.11349921

>>11349394
>spaceflight is hard to sell as a political platform
Because spaceflight is seen as "nerdy" and thus irrelevant compared to "REAL" issues. Despite that space is being more and more important as it becomes easier to access space. Space flight really needs to be pulled from the "nerdy" in order to be taken more seriously.

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 22:31:19 2020 No.11350316

>>11347902
So yeah, in case anyone missed it...
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jan/31/elon-musk-edm-artist-first-track-dont-doubt-ur-vibe
This may be the best comment:
>It's competently assembled, but spirit-crushingly dull and insipid. It sounds like those generic royalty-free backing tracks used on youtube commercials. If you had to invent a genre for it, it'd be 'adcore'.
The real question is if its mediocrity is yet another Elon troll. RIP Harambe!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 22:55:57 2020 No.11350367 File: 507 KB, 1070x601, 33481015d04b3974f9ed7acf616592901b13507ebdabf48ee1d6d09d63acc2c4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >just about to get off this rock for real this time >global pandemic about to smack us back 100 years

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 23:41:30 2020 No.11350455 >>11350367 nah it's fine

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 23:59:26 2020 No.11350480

>>11350367
Celebrate the arrival of the Dragon, its passing will cleanse the weakness from us. I expect it to be a significant net positive for space travel, because in the aftermath it'll provide a compelling argument to the normie hordes for not having all our eggs in one basket.

Humanity loses its ambition if things are going too easy at the species scale. Sure, there's war and disease going on all the time, but we haven't had a good brisk reminder that we're all under constant existential threat in a while now.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:25:55 2020 No.11350514
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So, bit of an oddball question, but what kind of gases might be able to linger in the upper atmosphere and absorb most of the UV A/B radiation from the sun without causing disastrous secondary effects?

I'm definitely not trying to formulate a post-apocalypse setting where techno-barbarians walk around in mad max fetish gear without fear of constant skin cancer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:33:46 2020 No.11350525 >>11350514 ozone

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:35:26 2020 No.11350531 >>11350525 Doesn't catch UVA. Elevated ozone levels could block out enough of the B to make it insignificant but UVA is a bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:44:35 2020 No.11350538 >>11350514 Disregard skin cancer, acquire strapped gimp outfit anyway.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 00:57:23 2020 No.11350547

>>11350514
Think different.
Apocalypse happened because nuclear war.
Nuclear war happened because humanity discovered a genetic based cure for cancer
With no more cancer risk from anything, nothing to fear from chronic low level dose exposure.
Hence fire off the nukes.
No non-augmented people are left because they all eventually got cancer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 01:01:18 2020 No.11350551 >>11350547 Nah, the nuclear war was kicked off because of catastrophic political instability stemming from Antarctica getting rekt by a meteor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 01:02:18 2020 No.11350553 >>11350538 Just use titanium dioxide warpaint for raids on the over-land.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 02:48:03 2020 No.11350728 >>11349684 I talked to someone I know who knows Latin, and he suggests "Numquam Evadamus Terram" for "we shall never leave Earth"

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 04:30:41 2020 No.11350858 >>11350538 >Disregard skin cancer, acquire gay boy berserkers and smegma crazies Now that's Ayatollah'ing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 04:46:35 2020 No.11350880 >>11350858 Enjoy your mutilated cock amerimutt

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 04:50:43 2020 No.11350891 >>11350880 Have you even watched Mad Max 2?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 07:02:12 2020 No.11351105 >>11350367 The virus seems to mostly atack asians.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 07:15:05 2020 No.11351121 >>11351105 kek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 09:06:42 2020 No.11351283 >>11351105 >>11351121 Did you reply write ‘kek’ to your own post?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 09:09:19 2020 No.11351289 >>11351105 >>11351121 It wasn’t even that funny

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 09:19:22 2020 No.11351304 >>11351105 Top kek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 10:43:38 2020 No.11351513 File: 1.50 MB, 3000x1954, 1489004010742.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are the Boca Chica Bois going to make another test tank, or is it on to the first craft?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:08:25 2020 No.11351773 File: 30 KB, 1024x684, index.php.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AIR LAUNCH I R DORADO

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:43:02 2020 No.11351892

>>11350316
>So yeah, in case anyone missed it...
>https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jan/31/elon-musk-edm-artist-first-track-dont-doubt-ur-vibe
>This may be the best comment:
>>It's competently assembled, but spirit-crushingly dull and insipid. It sounds like those generic royalty-free backing tracks used on youtube commercials. If you had to invent a genre for it, it'd be 'adcore'.
>The real question is if its mediocrity is yet another Elon troll. RIP Harambe!
Anon, the Grauniad is staffed by the most poisonous, deranged, dismal excuses for human beings in the country. They have it in for Elon because he's an extremely successful heterosexual white man and this undermines their incessant 'all white heterosexual men are useless devils' messaging. That comment you cite may be true or not - the point is that their position is utterly dependent on the skin colour etc of the person involved. You literally should not trust a word they write, and certainly not give the clicks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:45:31 2020 No.11351899 >>11351892 >It's competently assembled, but spirit-crushingly dull and insipid Well, he's still banging Grimes, isn't he? Sounds like she's rubbed off on him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:49:56 2020 No.11351916 >>11351892 >They have it in for Elon because he's an extremely successful heterosexual white man and this undermines their incessant 'all white heterosexual men are useless devils' messaging. But he's technically African-American.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:50:29 2020 No.11351917 >>11351892 Jesus what the hell is wrong with that "publication"? I was sure given that writing style that it'd be written by a bitchy woman, but surprisingly it was written instead by a womanly man instead. Song is okay I guess, but man fuck Guardian.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:52:43 2020 No.11351926 >>11351916 The very wrong kind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:53:37 2020 No.11351928 File: 21 KB, 300x250, Alexis_Petridis,_L.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11351892 He looks about as joyless as I expected.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:53:39 2020 No.11351929 >>11351916 a white african is literally the worst kind of human possible for certain people

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:56:41 2020 No.11351943 >>11351928 If you wrote for The Guardian, you'd be soulless and joyless too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 12:57:35 2020 No.11351947 >>11351929 The worst kind how? And to whom?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:00:03 2020 No.11351956 >>11351947 If you grew up in the 80s and 90s, rhodies and south africans were painted as literally satan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:10:04 2020 No.11351981 >>11351513 The test apparently got 8.5 bar so they're probably going to start construction of the starship proper.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:10:15 2020 No.11351982 >>11351956 Where? I'm in the US midwest and never heard ths growing up through the 90s, then again we don't have a ton of africans up here, southern or otherwise.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:15:45 2020 No.11352000

>>11351982
Europe. Major demonizing campaigns of Rhodies and South Africans when I grew up. Russia may have been the Evil Empire during the cold war, but Botha etc were just evil according to our media.
Look at white people in South Africa trying to get asylum in the west now, every fucking country denies them thanks to that shit. They may as well be radioactive.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:21:18 2020 No.11352019

>>11352000
How bizarre, I don't think I can recall a single news story about SA airing here while I was growing up, maybe a report here or there on apartheid ending, but I can't remember there being any sort of moral push against the nation.
Why were you told to hate SA while I was told next to nothing about it when we were kids? Did your media have a grudge, is mine just inept, or some combination of both?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:23:39 2020 No.11352025 >>11352019 My country was dominated by Labour government growing up with a smattering of Conservatives here and there. It was Free Nelson Mandela 24/7/365, Botha Bad. Same in most of Europe.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:28:28 2020 No.11352040

>>11352025
I know so little about the place that I had to go look up "Botha" just now to get what you were referencing. Is my ignorance regarding SA just me? It seems like we get very little news about them over here, and therefore don't really think about them ever, at least where I'm at.
Other USanons, do you feel like this, or did you get a better education on African affairs growing up?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:30:34 2020 No.11352046 >>11352040 From my own personal interaction with family from the US, you don't really get the best education about what goes on around in the world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:34:46 2020 No.11352064 >>11352046 I hate it but you aren't wrong, anything I know about the broader world today I learned post-school.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 13:38:57 2020 No.11352075

>>11352064
Our education isn't all that better really, we may get a better grasp on basic geopolitics out of the gate, but it's colored by a political lens that's far from neutral.
I had plenty of unlearning to do when I got out.

I'm also a victim of a model of education where everyone had to follow the lowest common denominator. Turned me into a drop-out from sheer boredom, I eventually went back at age 23 to finish my relatively basic education.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:10:54 2020 No.11352165 >>11352040 the US is either completely ignorant neutral or slightly positive on White South Africans

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:12:10 2020 No.11352170 >>11350316 >>11351892 >https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/07/elon-musk-spacex-launch-utterly-depressing >Why Elon Musk’s SpaceX launch is utterly depressing

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:15:35 2020 No.11352180 >>11352170 FIFTY FUCKING MARSHALL PLANS

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:17:44 2020 No.11352182 >>11351892 >Grauniad is staffed by the most poisonous And did I say you should click on their beg button? Fucking turn on your adblock and laugh while you waste their bandwidth. And laugh again when you get to the yellow beg box.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:28:50 2020 No.11352211
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>>11352170
>People still don't understand the car was in the place of a mass simulator
>People still think space travel is just a money sink with no value generate on earth

I don't think a single other scientific field has been as shafted as space related research. So much stuff people use every day was only produced because of space related research, it's so frustrating to see people just reducing it to (literal quote from the article) "whitey on the moon"

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:30:12 2020 No.11352216

>>11352170
>Elon Musk is right: silly and fun things are important. But some of them are an indefensible waste of resources. While there are still humanitarian crises such as that in Syria, nobody can justify vast spending on rocketry experiments.
What the hell was Elon supposed to do to help Syria? IIRC, the problems in that country are abit more involved than what a single entrepreneur can try to fix. Is The Guardian on Boeing's payroll? Because this sounds more like a hit piece.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:33:41 2020 No.11352226 >>11352170 Everyone writing for The Guardian should be dragged over broken glass by a Tesla.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:36:15 2020 No.11352233

>>11352216
We need heavy lift rockets, dumbass Guardian writer does not understand that Musk could either sling some typical ballast into orbit like they always do, or be original and make space exploration a bit more exciting for the common man and send his old roadster up.
No-brainer if you ask me.

The real depressing thing is that no matter how much money we throw into sinkholes like Syria, they don't improve.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:39:35 2020 No.11352241

>>11352211
>People still think space travel is just a money sink with no value generate on earth
IMO, it's because not much has happened in it since Apollo (at least in the eyes of the typical American). Try to think of something truly big in space flight since the moon landings that really caught the imagination of the people. You'll find that most of the "big" things in space flight (ex. Hubble, Voyager, ISS, etc) barely register on the mental radar of most people. I'm not saying that those things weren't important in some way, but those things were either underplayed or not exciting enough to most people. Space flight shouldn't be aiming for the lowest common denominator, but much more work is needed to keep it in the minds of the public. SpaceX's fanbase can be cringy, but the company is absolutely doing the right thing in cultivating fans.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:43:16 2020 No.11352249 >>11352170 A rat done bit my sister Nell. (with Whitey on the moon) Her face and arms began to swell. (and Whitey's on the moon)

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:46:22 2020 No.11352260

>>11352241
I completely agree with you about generating hype and interest with big things like moon landings (and now rocket landings) and the like. My problem was more that every year NASA puts out 100+ page reports about ways space research has led to technology back on Earth each year, and they just get completely ignored.

NASA even has an entire page dedicated to this (https://spinoff.nasa.gov) and fucking shit-tier glorified blogger "journalists" continue to spew bullshit about space research being nothing more then a cool spectacle project.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:47:06 2020 No.11352263 File: 354 KB, 1066x1600, hot wheels.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11352241 When I was little, I remember being hype for Pathfinder going to Mars. I still have the Sojourner rover and I think the aeroshell tucked away somewhere.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:49:20 2020 No.11352275

>>11352211
>I don't think a single other scientific field has been as shafted as space related research.
Only 2 more years and it's been 50 years, two whole generations, since we had a human presence on another stellar body.
There isn't a single other scientific field that has been shafted this hard, ever.

>>11352260
NASA are fucking retard tier when it comes to public relations. The material they put out is for kindergartens or people in the field, practically no middle ground. They're completely unable to grasp the common man's imagination or interest.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:49:46 2020 No.11352280
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>>11352233
>dumbass Guardian writer does not understand that Musk could either sling some typical ballast into orbit like they always do, or be original and make space exploration a bit more exciting for the common man and send his old roadster up.
The Guardian writer is probably complaining exactly because the launch was popular and exiting. Most people don't see space flight as being useful at all, so any big show (no matter how cheap) is seen as wasteful. If SpaceX just sent a hunk of concrete into space without hype, then that writer wouldn't have cared about how much Elon spent on SpaceX.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:53:38 2020 No.11352295

>>11352275
>NASA are fucking retard tier when it comes to public relations. The material they put out is for kindergartens or people in the field, practically no middle ground.
This. Anything they do try to target towards actual public populations is so up its own ass that people don't give a shit.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:55:45 2020 No.11352306

>>11352275
>NASA are fucking retard tier when it comes to public relations. The material they put out is for kindergartens or people in the field, practically no middle ground.
Sometimes they do something good, like the Farewell Cassini video. Although, they need to do more adult/young-adult out reach. Talking to kids about how cool space flight is sounds like a solid plan since they're the future, but bringing the field to the level of what most children can understand makes it sound simplistic and pointless at times.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:57:37 2020 No.11352312 >>11352306 the issue is that they get good penetration to kids but then they don't keep them hooked or in the loop as they age, so people "grow out of it" and see it as childish

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:59:27 2020 No.11352319 >>11352312 >so people "grow out of it" and see it as childish >"haha yeah, I wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid"

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 14:59:41 2020 No.11352321

>>11352295
A) They put out way too little material.
B) Most of the material is aimed at kids/schoolkids
C) The rest of the material is aimed at people working in the various fields
D) The material needs to be plastered fucking everywhere and the production values needs to go up.

>>11352306
My almost decade older sister was born just before Apollo 8 launched. My mother told me they were glued to the screens back then. There were no silly experiments, just footage of astronauts doing astronaut shit. I'm all for teaching kids, but not just kids.
NASA is severely underestimating the level of their audience.

>>11352312
Bingo. I had to rediscover my love for everything spaceflight well into adulthood.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 15:03:02 2020 No.11352329

>>11352312
I think the secret is either to do more actual space flight, or show more of what's happening. It was fun watching documentaries about space flight as a kid, but I got "bored" of it when the Shuttle and Constellation got canned. It felt like once the rocket launches and sends something to space, then that's it for space travel and there's nothing interesting happening. Doing more in space and showing more of what's happening is what's needed to gain the public's attention more.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 15:08:30 2020 No.11352340

>>11352321
>There were no silly experiments, just footage of astronauts doing astronaut shit. I'm all for teaching kids, but not just kids. NASA is severely underestimating the level of their audience.
I believe that the material about space flight doesn't need to be "dumbed" down for kids. Even just a high level overview of the technical aspects of it and how important it is would do enough to get their attention.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 15:08:56 2020 No.11352341

>>11352312
>>11352306
>>11352295
We need more engine test footage. Maybe I'm weird, but the intricate design and raw power of engines is what got me interested in space again.

https://youtu.be/E4yvQtsOSkk?t=461

How can you not think this is some of the coolest shit being built today?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 15:12:03 2020 No.11352352 >>11352340 No, I didn't need cookies baked in space or flower smelling experiments to keep me interested. I don't think kids today are significantly dumber or smarter than I was.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 15:14:32 2020 No.11352360

>>11352341
>How can you not think this is some of the coolest shit being built today?
It's pretty hard to tell someone that something is cool if they don't have an interest in it. Engine test fires are cool as hell though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9F0WzdV4fI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp0WgodhR7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9hPMbYQuY

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 15:19:15 2020 No.11352376
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>>11352341
>How can you not think this is some of the coolest shit being built today?

That particular engine was built decades ago, although that doesn’t make it any less cool. Also, if you liked that, your gonna love what’s happening in June...

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 15:22:48 2020 No.11352390 File: 241 KB, 1920x1280, Orange_Rocket_Moving.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11352376 Hopefully NASA gives proper hype and coverage of this. They really need to up their PR game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 15:58:46 2020 No.11352465 >>11352390 For what? A test firing? Nobody is going to get excited for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:08:33 2020 No.11352485 >>11352465 4 RS-25s mounted to a giant core-stage, firing for 8 and a half minutes? Sounds more exciting than your average test firing to me. Also, if you don’t get excited by every, single engine test firing your not a true rocketry fan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:12:04 2020 No.11352494 >>11352485 I will be excited, but seeing as we were just talking about common people, they will not be excited. They won't even care.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:15:10 2020 No.11352503 File: 994 KB, 916x514, contrast starshps.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] old starship vs new

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:15:12 2020 No.11352504 >>11352494 So then how could a test fire be made interesting to the common people?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:16:21 2020 No.11352508 >>11352504 Oh I don't know, maybe they should be doing more stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:17:22 2020 No.11352510 File: 249 KB, 800x720, smug_anime_girl2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11352508 >doing more stuff >with SLS

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:18:26 2020 No.11352517 >>11352504 >So then how could a test fire be made interesting to the common people? Publicly hang B*ing employees if they don't complete SLS on time and on budget.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:23:25 2020 No.11352538 >>11352233 >>11352280 What is depressing is that people think that money evaporates into thin and doesn't in fact keep circulating in the economy. The only thing wasted is a wee bit of resources that will never come back to Earth.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:25:31 2020 No.11352542

>>11352390
NASA is a non-entity. I don't even know a single face from NASA and I post in all these /sfg/ threads since fucking forever. Same with ESA. SpaceX and Blue Origin I know who those are because their faces are plastered all over the media. But, NASA...lol they are an absolute grant farming joke.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:37:20 2020 No.11352574

>>11352542
>NASA is a non-entity.

Lol, NASA has a sizeable social media presence, that extrapolates to massive proportions when a probe landing or flyby happens (both Insight and New Horizons reached number 1 on the Twitter trending page last year).

>lol they are an absolute grant farming joke.

You’ve obviously got personal opinions/biases that prevent from you thinking rationally or objectively.

Also, since when does Blue Origin have a big social media presence?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:38:17 2020 No.11352577 >>11352542 >I don't even know a single face from NASA and I post in all these /sfg/ threads since fucking forever. What about Jim Bridenstine?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:40:52 2020 No.11352583 >>11352577 >What about Jim Bridenstine? The guy who's head I'm about to put on Charlie Brown's body?

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:42:20 2020 No.11352589

>>11352542
>SpaceX and Blue Origin I know who those are because their faces are plastered all over the media.

I really doubt the general public can name any SpaceX employees other than Elon and any Blue employees other than Jeff...more people know who Jim Bridenstine is, than know who the CEO of Blue Origin is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:43:22 2020 No.11352593 >>11352589 *far more

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:44:08 2020 No.11352595

>>11352574
>Also, since when does Blue Origin have a big social media presence?
Not that anon, they don't, but they should. They don't have to go to SpaceX fan-cult levels, but their public presence is underwhelming and disappointing considering that they have the ability to put people on rockets (which is something SpaceX can't do yet). They can gather a huge following with New Shepard yet it feels like they're dragging their heels with it.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:53:34 2020 No.11352629

>>11352574
BO is trying to make a publicity push, with the big Blue Moon reveal, the project sending kids' art to space, showing New Shepherd to the Expanse cast, ect. I don't think it's picked up much steam yet, but I'm sure it'll be more successful once they actually start operational launches. (Or get a spokesman who's more of an Elon style memelord.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 16:57:46 2020 No.11352641 File: 184 KB, 1419x2026, 1546708938258.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11351981 Yeah thats why I was asking. Hope its not all inside the tent with doors closed. RIP BocaChicaGal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:03:29 2020 No.11352652 >>11352503 Damn that's looking tidy as fuck.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:03:54 2020 No.11352653

>>11352629
>BO is trying to make a publicity push, with the big Blue Moon reveal

That was more for political reasons than PR, Blue Moon was already know to be in development but they decided to do a big reveal in Washington DC coincidentally just after Artemis was announced.

> the project sending kids' art to space

Seems very cynical to label this PR...

>showing New Shepherd to the Expanse cast

Just seems like a fun thing to do: “you guys act in our show about spaceships, why don’t you come see our actual spaceship?

I don’t really see the PR push here, their not even gonna sell tickets for New Shepard until they’ve launched people.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:13:59 2020 No.11352671

>>11352574
>NASA has a sizeable social media presence
It is 2020 and having social media accounts doesn't mean shit if no one but flat earthers frequent them.

>>11352577
Never heard of him before your post. Never seen his face before either. NASA is DEAD.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:15:02 2020 No.11352672 File: 42 KB, 720x540, intredasting.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11352589 >i bet no one knows the janitors here >but i bet they know the front runner of here

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:16:35 2020 No.11352676 >>11352671 >Never heard of him before your post. Never seen his face before either. NASA is DEAD. Please leave...

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:17:34 2020 No.11352679 >>11352503 >old: dented tin can >new: shiny metal caterpillar

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:53:10 2020 No.11352756 File: 2.88 MB, 490x544, Musk Dancing.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11352676 This is a SpaceX-only general. I'm dismissing you. You need to leave immediately.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:53:16 2020 No.11352757 >>11352671 >Never heard of him before your post. Never seen his face before either. NASA is DEAD. NASA deserves to be shat on, but you're trying a little bit too hard there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 17:57:14 2020 No.11352770 >>11352757 Is he on boomer TV or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:02:57 2020 No.11352787 >>11352756 >>11352770 Cringe

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:18:08 2020 No.11352824 >>11352787 >t. NASA employee

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:20:21 2020 No.11352834 >>11352824 >t. Low-effort troll

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:22:49 2020 No.11352841 >>11352834 sorry meant for >>11352787

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:24:02 2020 No.11352848

>>11352170
havent even read the article and can already tell from the article that it's another "why are we spending money on space when people are starving in africa" bullshit.
The fuck is wrong with these people, havent they figured out yet that throwing money at the problem for half a century now still hasnt fixed it, why would throwing more at it fix it all of a sudden?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:25:35 2020 No.11352853 >>11352848 >why are we spending money on space when people are starving in africa Close, Syria.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:33:38 2020 No.11352861

>>11352853
Maybe the lefties should ask the more important question why a certain faction in the west, with people like hillary clinton in it decided to arm every rebel group that wanted to overturn the assad regime, and turning out that a vast majority of these arms ended up in the hands of ISIS.
And to go completly off track because this is /sci/, but assad is a dictator, but he is unironically the better option for the syrian people right now.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:42:28 2020 No.11352886

>>11352848
>throwing money at the problem
The only problem they see is a) starving people in Africa and b) rich faggots who must've stolen their money anyways, and their thought never goes beyond "let's have rich guys hand over their money to the poor ones, and yes, communism is bad and evil, why do you ask?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 18:46:50 2020 No.11352904 >>11352504 I recall an old idea in this general of having space tour lotteries where everyday people can enter and can get a free ride to space. Maybe it can work?

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 19:30:35 2020 No.11353029

>>11351917
The worst thing is my family all read it and then regurgitate the mind melting poison verbatim with confidence like they're a fucking university professor about the subject. One of them brought it to my house once, and I asked them to never bring it here again. Ugh

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 19:41:00 2020 No.11353053 File: 2.29 MB, 320x240, lunarascent.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are the film recordings of Apollo public domain?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 19:41:23 2020 No.11353055 >>11352170 If any of them were offered a lucrative PR role at SpaceX they'd be out the door of the Grauniad before you had time to say problematic heteronormative phallocentricity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 19:43:59 2020 No.11353057 >>11352211 Nobody's stopping anyone starting their own space programme after all. It struck me that Saharan Africa is more or less a perfect rocket testing range in many ways.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 19:52:21 2020 No.11353071

>>11352280
>The Guardian writer is probably complaining exactly because the launch was popular and exiting
I think you are right. Part of the tactics seem to be to instill doubt in the mind of the reader about any positive story that isn't part of their controlled selection of topics that they want people to think positively about. It's rife at the minute - they intersperse facts with snarky digs about trivial details and pretend it's about checking fake news, but then only apply this method to political enemies and in contrast report uncritically on their allies. But I'm getting a bit /pol/ so I'll shut up now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 19:53:02 2020 No.11353073 >>11353053 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Apollo_program

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 20:31:53 2020 No.11353149 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-bzK9V0fd4

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 20:54:47 2020 No.11353186 >>11353149 Interesting facts here. SpaceX F9 rocket costs $28M to build. They can now operate at $32 million per rocket.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:00:23 2020 No.11353197 >>11353186 Damn, and that's without taking into account reusability savings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:02:39 2020 No.11353202 >>11353197 no, that is reusability savings

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:04:10 2020 No.11353207 >>11352583 I wouldn't recognize him if I walked by him in the grocery store. Not even in Cocoa or Webster, where you could expect to see a few NASA people wandering around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:06:13 2020 No.11353214 >>11353186 How can SpaceX make their rocket so cheap? What are the other launch providers doing "wrong"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:06:59 2020 No.11353216 >>11353149 kek, that guy at 15:35 telling the EPA man to "stfu"

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:07:06 2020 No.11353217 >>11352583 I'm looking forward to it

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:17:09 2020 No.11353234 >>11353214 Others sacrificed efficiency/cost for political support. Aka million supplier chain all across the states.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:18:45 2020 No.11353239 >>11353216 Yeah that made me chuckle, fuck safetycucks

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:21:27 2020 No.11353244 >>11353149 Oh, is this the rapidly becoming infamous presentation at a local government conference, where the SpaceX representative went full retard and said they hope to launch “15 million times a year“?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:27:12 2020 No.11353261 >>11353244 No

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:32:45 2020 No.11353276 File: 2.75 MB, 1920x1080, Axiom station assembly.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AXIOM X I O M

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:35:01 2020 No.11353280 >>11353244 there is a 737 joke

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:39:18 2020 No.11353289

>>11353244
No, that comment was made by a SpaceX lawyer at the FAA’s 23rd Annual Commercial Space Transportation Conference; in regards to Starship earth-earth replacing commercial aviation. I’m assuming the aforementioned lawyer got laughed out the door, considering Elon-cult Twitter mistakenly interpreted an article about the lawyer’s statement as some kind of made up and massively exaggerated hit piece purposefully wrote to make SpaceX look silly...

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:52:45 2020 No.11353322 sn1 is looking mighty shiny. Glorious

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:56:33 2020 No.11353330
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>>11353276
should be pretty cool, the one thing I learned from the ISS tours is that it's an absolute mess inside. every square inch is used for something. A space station with some dead space and decorative areas will be nice. Though I really dislike the crew quarters, looks so stupid, especially with the 1 LED on every pad meme they're going for

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 21:58:19 2020 No.11353333 >>11353322 I'm excited

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:11:30 2020 No.11353341

>>11353244
You completely fucked up the explanation. It was a lawyer arguing about the need to let the space industry grow without too much regulations on launches. The lawyer said in the future there might be a time when millions of rockets will be launched per year. Aka Starship point-to-point travel on earth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:14:08 2020 No.11353343 >>11353276 I think we should upgrade the base ISS after axiom is launched out Why not rearrange the modules to attach to a modified starship? Boom. Taken to a more stable orbit. Better testing. More space.

Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:14:28 2020 No.11353344
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>>11353244
>15 million times a year
Can you imagine that? haha The cows would definitely be umm confused haha We should like support SpaceX and m- umm Elon Musk more so we can have this future. haha

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:16:51 2020 No.11353349 File: 383 KB, 648x442, eating.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11353344 You're not funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:17:45 2020 No.11353352 File: 371 KB, 522x540, 1565511572441.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:18:24 2020 No.11353354 File: 227 KB, 2000x1333, SpaceX+Starship+orbiting+Earth+by+Gravitation+Innovation[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11353344 >>11353349 Wrong image.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:23:15 2020 No.11353363 >>11353343 Russians are taking their modules and going it alone if Nauka ever launches. Protip: it won't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:24:50 2020 No.11353365 File: 151 KB, 900x900, 1518529995453.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11353363 >mfw we could finally have a legit mothership with big ass solar wings

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:25:53 2020 No.11353368 >>11353365 The ISS trusses are probably the most valuable components of the station. Seems a shame to waste them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:29:11 2020 No.11353375 >>11353368 they're also completely worthless unless you strip them down

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:30:42 2020 No.11353378 >>11353352 H U L LO U L L O

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 22:32:59 2020 No.11353381 >>11353375 Exactly. Take the modules off, place starship under the truss, add the modules to starship, BOOM, legit mothership

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 23:52:32 2020 No.11353524 anybody here pay Red Alert 2 specifically the Soviet campaign? https://youtu.be/WnrTrsRskp8

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 00:06:13 2020 No.11353555 >>11353368 they're super aesthetic too. I love the look of them compared to plain old cylindrical modules

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 00:07:31 2020 No.11353559 >>11353368 I imagine the pressurized modules shell is fine as well. Its just all the old 90s tech that needs to be pulled out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 00:08:53 2020 No.11353560 >>11353363 I wish they would pull the modules. It would force the US segment to build a modern service module. The Russian one is horribly out of date.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 02:00:56 2020 No.11353722 >>11353524 If those guys ever make it to space, satellite shielding is going to mysteriously start going missing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 02:02:25 2020 No.11353724 >>11347338 fgsfds

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 02:06:52 2020 No.11353732 >>11347594 No, the shuttle would have exploded by the time the net ropes were launched.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 02:10:35 2020 No.11353735 File: 493 KB, 1758x798, KSP with mods.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11353276

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 02:40:50 2020 No.11353760 >>11352671 How have you never heard of Jim? His tweets and any news about him are always posted in these threads. You see his name or tweets atleast 1-2 times a thread

Anonymous Sun Feb 2 03:47:32 2020 No.11353843

>>11351892
This post is complete bullshit and Grauniad is largely decent when it comes to news (commentary is largely subjective and obviously not to your tastes). BUT it was the Guardian who stabbed Julian Assange in the back, then twisted the knife, before violently pulling it out. They literally kickstarted the whole turning on Assange when they spread false rumors about him and Trump/Putin (fucking KEK).

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/29/the-guardians-summary-of-julian-assanges-interview-went-viral-and-was-completely-false/

For that they deserve eternal suffering (the paper itself rather than the people that is) plain and simple.

Anonymous Sun Feb 2 06:35:55 2020 No.11354017

>>11353843
I've been reading it for about 30 years, and you? Not a single aspect of their 'news' production process is not highly compromised and skewed: selection of stories, headline, content, emphasis, all deliberately tailored to promoting a very specific viewpoint. You are naive if you think otherwise. It's not a respected source these days.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 08:16:11 2020 No.11354130 >>11353760 Doubt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 08:17:44 2020 No.11354132 >>11353735 Too bad that movie had so much good aesthetic yet was terrible at the same time.

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