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Why does this board hate engineers so much? After answering post your favorite engineering discipline. My favorite is Electrical Engineering because obviously its the engineering I'm in.

>> No.11435407

>>11435403
its a joke

>> No.11435412

>>11435403
>engineers
neither scientists nor mathematicians

>> No.11435477

>>11435407
It's a mean joke, and it hurts me incredibly low self esteem. Know any way to boost my self esteem? Also you didn't tell me your favorite engineering discipline retard.
>>11435412
True, but they can still be discussed on /sci/

>> No.11435485

>>11435403
1. It's a joke.
2. People are asspained that engineers get more money and prestige than natural sciences and math.
3. They actually like engineering; they just don't want to admit it because of the asspain. We regularly have threads that are totally engineering focused like spaceflightgeneral and nobody complains because people don't talk about their majors in those threads
4. This board is 90% undergrad plebs regardless of major. Successful people aren't haters in general

>> No.11435630

>>11435485
>It's a joke
makes sense
>2. People are...
True
>3. They actually like...
I never though about that lol, that general is basically just a aerospace engineering general
>4.The board is...
Can't disagree with that.

>> No.11435640

>>11435630
>that general is basically just a aerospace engineering general
yeah, and you never see the "not science or math" guy there

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>>11435403
>>11435485
>Dude just approximate it

>> No.11435662

>>11435653
seething

>> No.11435666

>>11435403
Science minded people see engineering as trivial. My first 3 semesters of college were in EE before switching to physics. I thought EE would be interesting at first, especially signals. Once I learned the basics of how electronics, computers and signals work, all my interest evaoporated. I don't care about the fine details as long as I understand the fundamentals. A science like physics is concerned with generalities more than the fine details of a particular system. It's just a different mindset which attracts you to different kinds of problems. That said I appreciate what engineers do, and I met some deadly smart classmates in engineering. It's just different strokes for different folks.

>> No.11435684

>>11435653
Kind of a weird photo to have saved on your computer lol, also Physicists approximate.
>>11435666
devil trips, never mind that I thought physicist went into fine details? Most people I know where interested in the specifics, most people I know where in the engineering department though so I guess that makes sense.

>> No.11435705

>>11435403
Because you are the epitome of a wagie.
If you want to be a wagie, why work so hard?
Pure math is done for its own purposes, not to suck off Mr. Slate until quittin time.

>> No.11435718

>>11435403
EE here, why do I feel retarded and dumb?

>> No.11435792

>>11435705
Ok? This just sounds like a cope for not being employable.
>>11435718
Either imposter syndrome or you're actually retarded and dumb. It's like a 50% chance for either really.

>> No.11436080

>Electrical engineering
Based and mathpilled

>> No.11436503

>>11435718
go outside and talk to normies/actual wageslaves. Prepare your anus for some real culture shock when you see the shit they pull

>> No.11436511

>>11435403
When I started undergrad I started for EE but was actually turned off by my classmates. Switched to Pharm and so glad I did. I look forward to going to work which I think is the greatest thing possible.

>> No.11436858

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20050170447.pdf
Advanced Energetics for AeronauticalApplications: Volume II

>> No.11437152

>>11435403
Do you guys automate robots? That's something I'm looking forward to do, dunno what area to study though

>> No.11437263

>>11435403
>because obviously its the engineering I'm in.
That’s why, you’re NPCs

>> No.11437280

>>11437152
Yeah, Controls/Robotics/Autonomy is a big field of EE

>> No.11437445

engineers are just normal people who can't appreciate the beauty of logic, reason, analysis. They use scientific studies as tools. I do have HUGE respect for bioengineering because that actually makes a difference. On the other hand, who needs another facebook engineer? Do we really need facebook to further humanity? Why can't internet be like the old days where you could have your own website out of your home server and not be bullshited by trackers and hackers.

>> No.11437598

>>11437263
Are you retarded? Shouldn't the field you choose to be in be your favorite field? Why would I become a mechanical engineer if I prefer electrical? I obviously have reasons why I favor Electrical Engineering to other engineering disciplines. It was a joke you autist.

>> No.11437607

>>11437445
It sounds like you're less mad about engineers and more mad about Facebook.

>> No.11437787

>>11437598
>are you retarded?
>lengthy explanation
>implying it makes sense
>hahaaaa it was a jokeee

>> No.11437858

>>11437787
>Doesn't counter my claim
Yes, I'm thinking you're retarded.

>> No.11437989

I love engineers. I work with lots of them and many of my good friends are engineers. I even have my PE (despite not majoring in engineering).

The distaste you see on /sci/ for engineers is almost entirely undergraduate dick measuring. Engineers are less rigorous, well compensated, and there’s lots of incompetent undergraduate engineers. Makes them, like CS, a perfect target to the inflated ego and general superiority complex of undergraduate science and math majors. (although there’s still a healthy amount of dick measuring in the real world).

My favorite field of engineering is civil.

>> No.11438479

>>11437989
>and there’s lots of incompetent undergraduate engineers
the funny thing is how few of them actually work as engineers upon graduation

>> No.11438520

>>11437989
>My favorite field of engineering is civil.

Finally someone actually read my post. Civil Engineering is pretty cool. I think the structural analysis and soil Mechanics stuff they do i cool. They do more then that obviously but I don't know much about Civil Engineering. It's a shame people make fun of Civil Engineers just because they take a bit less math, when there classes are pretty interesting and still math heavy.

>> No.11438562

>>11435792
Yes, it’s cope just like your reference to money is your cope for not actually engaging in intellectual pursuits

>> No.11438577

>>11438562
Do you think a PhD in engineering isn't engaging in intellectual pursuit?

>> No.11438585

>>11438577
/sci/ only compares PhD science/math to BS-level engineers because it's the only way they look good. If they compared PhD vs PhD or BS vs BS they'd have no room to shit talk

>> No.11438593

>>11437445
>engineers are just normal people who can't appreciate the beauty of logic, reason, analysis

What a fucking stupid statement, lots of engineers take pure math classes exactly because they see the beauty in reasoning. moreover engineering is about thinking how to apply theoretical tools in order to solve a problem or make new tech.

>> No.11438650

>>11435412
No, those are different job titles. Engineering does apply both math and physics tho, especially when they work in r&d. Broad profession however; I know plenty of engineers who basically just do process stuff which more or less tech based project management. Then again I know people with chemistry phds who also are simply managers or writers.

Source am engineer, have masters, got it in a physics lab at a major uni.

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11439114

I-I'm actually planning on doing my bachelors in Engineering. Any advice veteran anons?

>> No.11439345

>>11435412
Ye, they actually have to make shit work. Find a use for something that a scientist would throw away after developing a theory cuz "We know it now, not interesting" and leave it useless. Not to mention the mindset. An engineer is not as interested in the fundamentals as he is interested in the details. You manipulate the details to make shit work differently. Scientists though are focused mainly on generalizing shit.
Throughout my entire childhood I was interested in science and the way scientists think. Eventually I got into engineering in my university years, because not doing practical might be very interesting to me, but I get bored from it easily. Long story short, you can't compare them. It's like comparing your left hand and your right hand. Jerking off with them would either feel completely different or completely the same, in both cases you can't make assumptions or comparisons.

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>>11437445
Thinking that people can design and make rockets, computers, nuclear reactors, medical equipment, airplanes and so on by simply applying math without "understanding the beauty, logic, reason or analysis", just like using a coloring book and then claim they are artists, is some next level autism that should make your rethink communicating with other people.

>> No.11439447

>>11439114
Dont be a low iq normfag who only cares about industry like most of the people in my class

>> No.11439564

>>11435412
but they sure know how to make devices that could compromise your physical integrity.

>> No.11439737

>>11439114
It will be the most difficult thing you've ever done. Dont count on teachers. If you are having trouble use the internet or get a tutor there is no shame. Your test averages will be horrible. Your GPA will be deflated, people will drop out. Stay above the mean work your ass off. This is job training. It will be worth it. You will get to the high paying job. You might even get a cute wife. Fuck the "college experience" it's for people who want to make 50k a year. Dont loose passion for how things work. Do undergrad research. Dont get suckered into a phd when a masters gets the same pay raise.

You got this. Deep breaths. One step at a time. What field? I did bs and ms in BME

>> No.11440048

>>11438577
Then why are you talking about money and employability?

>> No.11440050

>>11438585
All of those Nobels and Field medals from engineering PhDs.....

>> No.11440276

>>11435403
I leik materials engineerung
I caen pic tha bes material for basicully enny applikashun

>> No.11440406

>>11440048
Stop trying to redirect and answer the question, do you think engineering on the PhD level is an intellectual pursuit or not?

>> No.11440448

>>11440406
You’re the one redirecting about this being “cope”. Maybe getting the PhD is, but once you’re out doing it for money, it’s not the same thing and you know it.

>> No.11440505

>>11437445
Hey alright finally someone who respects my field, AMA

>> No.11440714

>>11440448
People don't get PhD's for the money retard, also who says you have to be doing engineering for the money? Why cant you just like engineering?

>> No.11440734

>>11440050
Those are awards for math and natural science. There is no MechE or EE nobel category. Again with the flawed comparisons.

>> No.11440848

>>11440734
Engineering is just applied chemistry/mathematics/and now biology. So engineers win nobel prizes in those fields after engineering new shit in whatever field
You're just mad because you study Galois theory

>> No.11440870

>>11440734
Engineers have won nobel prizes lol.

>> No.11440884

>>11440848
I'm really not sure what you're trying to say to me. I think you misunderstood my reply. I was saying that it should be expected that engineers don't win as many Nobels in physics as physicists. That's not a knock on engineers. It's a physics award after all. There are other awards for engineering subjects.

>>11440870
Yes I know. I didn't say otherwise.

>> No.11440899

>>11440884
Oh sorry, I'm >>11440870 I thought you just didn't know. I do agree though the awards he mentioned are awards for mathematicians and physicists so engineers won't get as many.

>> No.11440971

>>11435403
Mechanical engineering and the fields that come from it are superior to electrical engineering.

>> No.11442284

>>11435412
The people who actually pioneered the fundamental concepts we have today were philosophers looking for greater meaning, and engineers looking for solutions to problems. Circle jerkers wasting billions of dollars in universities with nothing to show for it is a relatively new concept. Academia is more about posturing and politics than actual discovery.

>> No.11442344

I finished my BA in physics 5 years ago, nearly on the month, being second in my class. Top student works now in CERN, however her father and mother were both engineers, while I am from a poor family with virtually no contacts. Girl got taught calculus during elementary by her parents and basically breezed through college while being one of the best actresses in the local theater too. Tbh she was cool as fuck!

However, back then, nobody told me how important contacts are and how useful seminars and having a presence is... and even before that, in high school, nobody gave advice on STEM, so the first integral I saw was in my Physics 101 class, where the professor said: You should know this from high school, and I was WTF?!?!?!???!!!11 Had to learn everything from scratch.

I just followed the poor people mentality that it is important to have good grades and that's that. Finished my BA and lo and behold, nothing but shitty teacher jobs and a shitty position for a shitty masters was my reward. I was not interested in teaching, because it was and is hard as fuck to get enough classes in one school, so most of the time you have to travel every single day between schools to get enough classes together for a good wage... and fuck that.

Meanwhile, I also lost all interest in doing research due to the "publish or perish" climate, basically meaning you have to work for decades on random projects for a slight chance to actually work on something you are interested in.

Therefore, I figured industry was the way, however, having no contacts and money getting scarce, I couldn't find a job in industry as a physicist, so I started working odd jobs, from bartending on cruise ships, over working in a start up as a web designer briefly, to doing customer service and some physical jobs in between, not knowing what to do with my life.

Now, with 27, I decided to do an apprenticeship for an electrician, and I am loving it! Therefore, I signed up for a BA in EE now.

cont...

>> No.11442352

>>11442344
cont.

The BA starts in September, and I have enough money saved up so that I can fully concetrate on my studies, go to seminars, make contacts, and my current aprenticeship will also help me get a foot in the industry.

I just have 2 questions:

1. In your opinion and experience, will me, ultimately probably finishing my BA in EE with 30, be a huge deal?

2. What's a good math book, that actually REALLY gets into the math, but still connects it to engineering? While doing my Physics BA, I found that actually understanding the math made everything so much easier than just knowing how to use it as a tool, and I am looking for a really good textbook that goes on length about actually teaching proper math, but still having it related to engineering. Any recommendations?

>> No.11443408

>>11435412
Every engineer is both a scientist and a mathematician, while also being superior to both.

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>>11443408

>> No.11443811
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11443811

>>11443456
Cope

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11443879

>>11435403
because they're butthurted by the fact that engineers have a good and sometimes better knowledge of sciences and math, we are smarter and we make more money than scientists and mathematicians and society have a good concept of us.

>> No.11444083

>>11435412
Mathematicians are usually barely functioning autists.

>> No.11444098

>>11435403
>Why?
Because Bezos is one. You don't need any more reason than that.

>> No.11444144

>>11443811
>>11443879
>Engineers
Just stop. You are literal pajeets and wannabe codemonkeys who would rather take your 80K and eat shit than engage in high level intellectual pursuits. Engineering is for nigger intellect, math is for actual functioning humans. Cope.

>> No.11444149

>>11444144
>this isn't high level intellectual pursuits
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2003.00621.pdf

>> No.11444153

>>11444144
>>11444144
why are you so hateful? we're all part of a working system. engineers would be nothing without math and math would be useless without engineers.

every single one of us is important. from the guy thats checks you out at publix to the guy who's doing quantum software engineering, to the philosophy major. nobody is truly useless.

inb4 thats a libtard snowflake everyone is special view
well, think whatever you want but what i'm saying is true. we all need eachother. trade workers, STEM majors, retail/food service, blue collar pink collar white collar. there's something for everyone and we'd all be fucked without another.

>> No.11444159

>>11444153
>math would be useless without engineers.
No, because math doesnt need engineering. I do math without any consideration for physics or engineering fags.

>> No.11444168

>>11444159
>math doesn't need engineering
I mean, I guess? But historically math has been studied because of its application to engineering and science. If math had no applications to engineering it probably wouldn't have been studied as much as it has been.

>> No.11444221

>>11444159
what is the point of math is you aren't going to apply it in order to build something? if your answer is just to further understand the world we live in, then well, it's about as useful as philosophy. math is the hammer and nail, engineers are the builders

>> No.11444357

>>11444221
>it's about as useful as philosophy.
Yes. So stop trying to abuse it to fit your dumb physical "models". You're niggerfying of math is disgusting.

>> No.11444365

>>11435403
Engineering is pretty great. It's usually engineers that I don't like.

>> No.11444372

>>11439737
Good passionate post

>> No.11444391

>>11439737
Thanks for all the great advice, anon. I'm planning on studying mechanical engineering as well.

>> No.11444488

>>11440505
Do you have a hot wife?

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>>11442352
I like this chart. And yes, the loli on the bottom left makes it more reliable.

>> No.11444517

>>11444507
Nice chart! I´ll save it and I already have half of it in my e-book library as well! I agree, glasses loli makes me study harder every time.

Question is, about the first tree Main Text books.(and the 2 supplements to it)................................... CAN I SKIP THEM?

>> No.11444594

>>11444517
I would not recommend doing so

>> No.11444709

>>11438577
>be chad PhD Engineer
>told Friday to build thing does X, Y, and Z
>gets a deadline, some budget, no intern
>no scientist understands X, Y, and Z yet
>chad PhD Engineer does not know this
>no time to read journals
>weekends are for beers babes automodding
>Monday: discovers way to do X, Y, and Z
>Thursday: delivers machine, under budget
>bonuscheck.jpg
>scientists WTF you can't do that
>scientists how you do that?
>chad PhD Engineer: it was obvious to me
>scientists rush to publish
>leave PhD Engineer name off paper
>PhD Engineer sends letter to journal hey WTF
>scientists disgraced

>> No.11444769

>>11437263
yes physics makes u a main character in an anime u weebass

>> No.11444773

>>11439447
yes... care only about your "intellectual journey"

>> No.11444789

>>11444357
using math to solve problems=destroying it
who the fuck taught u math a fucking nazi??

>> No.11445530

>>11444144
t. has never produced or built anything of actual value

>> No.11447416

>>11435653
Thats mostly civil engineers, us electricals don't work like that.

>> No.11447421

>>11435403
I know its just a joke, but nearing the finishing of my engineering degree I can read and understand most papers on scientific topics. It seems even though engineering programs have less math/phys content, it doesn't really matter if you are interested in stuff.

>> No.11447430

>>11439737
>forgone the college experience
>haven’t spoken to a woman in 2 years
>no work experience
>no future prospects
but I got that masters in EE though

>> No.11447616

>>11447416
Depends on the design. It's a mass produced product that plugs into the wall and is used intermittently? Probably gonna round everything to the nearest part we're already using somewhere for that sweet, sweet low BOM.
It's an expensive instrument that runs on batteries and is pushing the envelope on accuracy and precision in a competitive market? That's a paradise for "must be exact" autism. The dream job for a young EE.

>> No.11447656

>>11447616
>>11447416
Anything that uses pi, e, or trig functions for computation uses approximation (i.e. basically every digital system)

>> No.11447690

>>11447656
>Symbolic math is impossible to do on a computer.
???
>digital system
Analog systems have noise, which limits their resolution as well. The reification of any mathematical concept necessarily results in approximation, as the resolution of reality is finite. Engineers do the math to get the result, then figure out how to get the result with imperfect tools. Other scientific disciplines do the same, but they're not called engineers because their goals are academic instead of practical.

>> No.11447710

>>11447690
>>Symbolic math is impossible to do on a computer.
i didn't say that at all. you can certainly do symbolic math if you have super low precision and dynamic range, but that wont get you too far

and yeah ADCs all use approximation too now that you mention it.

also research engineers do academic shit too, but most engineers can't into research. hell most engineering majors don't even end up as engineers

>> No.11447716

>>11447710
>you can certainly do symbolic math if you have super low precision and dynamic range
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>ADCs all use approximation
It's called quantization error.
>most engineers can't into research
It's basically half the job.

>> No.11447737

>>11447716
Yes I do. You don't.
Which is basically rounding or truncating to an approximate value.
No it isn't for most engineers unless you have a silly definition of research.

>> No.11448014

>>11447737
Nope. Stay in school, kiddo.

>> No.11448017

>>11448014
I'm done with school, little girl. Have fun with not knowing how your computer calculates things.

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>>11448017
Cringe. Have fun believing that "low precision and dynamic range" (what the fuck?) is how symbolic computation works.

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>>11435403
There is a difference between engineer students and engineers in the field. Students are retarded (that also holds for any bachelors degree student), but engineers in the workforce are valuable and important.

>>11435477
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DOOON'T HURT MY SELF ESTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM
where the fuck do you think you are, retard?

>>11435653
Have you ever done theoretical thermodynamics/stat mech?

>>11435666
True. Though sometimes I like getting deeper into one particular subject even if it's not truly physics. Had to create a PID controler once as a job and that was very interesting.

>>11437445
who the fuck do you think keeps the systems running you rely on every day? We need engeneers as much as we need scientists, maybe even more so.

Modern day internet's fucked though, but that happens to anything that gets old and standardised.

>>11442352
Contacts are important anywhere, though.

>>11443408
That's not true, only the ones that are interested enough to go deeper into the math are eligible to be called something approximating a mathematician. At my uni the physics math courses are way above the engineers math courses and our courses aren't even nearly as deep as mathematicians classes.

>>11444159
Math generally only became useful to the general public only when physicists found something usefull and engineers used it to create things that made life better. If you agree that the industrial revolution increased life quality, that is.

>> No.11448075

>>11447416
Are you retarded? Literally all of linear and nonlinear circuits are based on approximations.

>> No.11448109

>>11435684
>never mind that I thought physicist went into fine details?
Correct. Both fields has their fine details. I would actually think that physicists care more about details as their errors will propagate to close to every other field, including engineering. If an engineer makes an error, it will only in rare circumstances be relevant for the physicist. It seems to me that the guy is conflating level of abstraction with detail.

>> No.11448119

>>11448075
The universe is made on approximations. EEs do a bunch of math using ideal components and systems to solve a problem, then adapt the design to work with the reality of an imperfect world. This doesn't make the process easier. It makes it much more difficult, especially because the end goal is generally to have the final design be cheap to manufacture.
The "dude just approximate it" comes from the idea that sometimes the value of a component doesn't really need to be exact.
>How much bypass capacitance do we need here? Eh, 0.1uF is probably fine and we already have that on the materials list, so try that.
>Yep, probes out to be good, stick it on the schematic.
Some things don't matter much, so engineers don't care about getting them exact. How much an engineer cares about exactness is directly related to how much exactness matters to solve the problem. This makes the output of engineers cheap, which makes engineers extremely valuable. Theorists who obsess over getting everything exact (because writing symbols on a board is cheap and they're in a huge pissing match to be the most autistic person in their field) make very expensive gold plated designs, and are shitty to work with. So they're less valuable. This really burns their ass because they think their solutions are better. In reality, 1% of the stuff that comes out of academia is commercially viable, and commercial viability is what bootstrapped humanity into industrialization.

>> No.11448137 [DELETED] 

>>11439345
>It's like comparing your left hand and your right hand. Jerking off with them would either feel completely different or completely the same, in both cases you can't make assumptions or comparisons.
When I was a teenager I thought it was very strange that jerking off with right and left felt so different. I just decided that I should from now on jerk off with left hand as an experiment. If I could get used to it would make it easier to surf the web for porn while jerking off. Win-Win. After a few month of jerking off with left hand it felt pretty close to right hand. It's not exactly the same, but pretty good! I don't care much about which hand I choose now in adulthood. I speculate this is very common among people these days as a majority is watching porn while they masturbate. Btw, I am not jerking off much anymore. I have done NoFap for several years.

>> No.11448141

>>11448137
lmao. You're based for posting this but cringe for deleting it.

>> No.11448156

>>11442352
>1. In your opinion and experience, will me, ultimately probably finishing my BA in EE with 30, be a huge deal?
No, I think it's completely fine. I know a few people finishing their degree around 30 and getting prestigious high paying engineering jobs. I think it's quite common among failed artists. You should be cruising through BA in EE with your background. These guys didn't even know calculus. I don't think they even had precalc from high school.

>> No.11448176

>>11442352
>2. What's a good math book, that actually REALLY gets into the math, but still connects it to engineering? While doing my Physics BA, I found that actually understanding the math made everything so much easier than just knowing how to use it as a tool, and I am looking for a really good textbook that goes on length about actually teaching proper math, but still having it related to engineering. Any recommendations?
What type of math? Like calculus? The guys here on /sci/ tends to say Spivak is one of the best Calculus books. I don't think you need a engineering oriented book on Calculus. If you want a good introduction to programming numerical methods from Calculus (highly relevant for engineering) take a look at ISBN-13: 978-3662498866 . This book teaches you python from scratch and meant to be used alongside learning Calculus. I know there are similar books for C/C++ or independent of language as well. C might be even better language for EE. You might know python/matlab already. I am sure you would need to learn C in your BA, thus you should just start on learning that already.

>> No.11448205

>>11447430
>but I got that masters in EE though
thats the spirit

>> No.11449344

>>11448052
>where the fuck do you think you are, retard?
It was a fucking joke you retard. I thought you would've been clued in on that by reading me asking for self-esteem help.

>> No.11449351

ucl or icl for EE-related MSc?

>> No.11449388

I don't participate on this board that much so I can't say.

Second part: Software Engineering. It's my favorite because I was a Comp Sci student with a highschool gpa of 1.7 and university gpa of 2.3 and now I make 170K at FAANG.

This probably sheds some light on the first question.

>> No.11449423

>>11440448
Lol literally nobody said that dipshit stop arguing with yourself

>> No.11449427

Painting pictures vs painting houses

>> No.11449449

>>11449388
unequivocally based

>> No.11449464

>>11449388
Hello Michael Reeves.

>> No.11449524

>>11449464
Who is that?

>> No.11449530

>>11435407
But engineers really are good at sucking cock.

>> No.11449531

>>11448029
Have fun thinking there is a single computation that ever occurs inside a computer where those are not factors. Stay inside your gay little scripts and don't worry about how the machine actually works; it's over your head.

>> No.11449545

>>11449531
If it's so fundamental then there must be books or even just a wiki article on this. Please enlighten us plebs on the glory of low precision and dynamic range, learned one.

>> No.11449553

>>11449524
some retard youtuber that garbage devs cream their pants over because he can write 100 if statements and import an openCV library in the arduino IDE

>> No.11449577

>>11449553
To be fair, that level of skill will get you 170k at FAANG if you buy yourself a CS degree and grind leetcode for a few weeks. You'll also have to move to CA and live among heroin shooting street shitters while paying $1,700/mo for rent, and your coworkers are the kind of people who make all the super shitty web frontends we live with on big sites these days, but if you can deal with that then you can retire after a mere 15 years of wanting to kill yourself.

>> No.11450045
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11450045

>>11449388
>FAANG
Which faang? Probably fake so ignore if so
Also if real, you're obviously not white/a woman because white men can't get hired there

>> No.11450277
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11450277

How do I get into VR/AR Engineering?

>> No.11450376

This place irrationally hates Engineers, Dentists and Coders. But worships Doctors and Mathematicians.

>> No.11451418

>>11450045
Amazon. Am white. Am Man. Am from middle America. Men outnumber women by about 20 to 1.

>> No.11451500

>>11440505
Got a hot girlfriend if that counts.

>> No.11451553

>>11435403
Who exactly do you think this board DOESN'T hate?

>> No.11451560

>>11451553
This board doesn't hate Pure mathematicians and Theoretical Physicists. Everything else they hate.

>> No.11451566

>>11451560
I'll grant you that pure math gets the least amount of hate, but they still get memed on plenty as well.

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>>11450376
>But worships Doctors
Are we talking about the same /sci/ here?

>> No.11451786

>>11451560
pure math gets no hate becuase theres nothing to hate, its all logic that stems from basic axioms. Physics gets hate because they make up random variables and numbers to fit their equations, and engineers get hate because they always complain about how much work they have, even though their problems are way easier than physics/math.

>> No.11451795

>>11439114
Study groups are the way. Even if you're capable of getting good grades on your own (which you should be if you want to stand a chance on exams and shit) they save you tons of time on homework and shit you don't want to be wasting hours on just to have fucked up something basic on.
But it depends a lot on your school. I went to a very good engineering school where there were good resources to help you (student organizations, office hours, decent professors). Your mileage may vary depending on where you go.

>> No.11451819

>>11451786
Just because problems are easier doesn't mean you get less work.

>> No.11451880

>>11450277
Just get into it at your own pace, if you're the learning by doing instead of studying type then apply for an internship at a reasonably successful company, and in a few months you'll have a job.

>> No.11451892

>>11451819
I'm not disagreeing, I know engineering majors have a higher workload than math majors. But the quality of work, the level of thinking necessary to solve said work, is much lower. Yet they still complain.

>> No.11451946

>>11451892
Much lower seems like an overstatement. You're making it sound like an engineering majors has no need for thinking to solve the work. Also engineers always complain about their work because most people aren't in engineering for their love of engineering. They are in it for money. If pure math made cash you'd bet your ass a lot of pure math majors would be complaining. Also difficulty varies for people, someone that is good at abstraction might be terrible at applications and vice versa.

>> No.11452105

>>11451946
It's not an overstatement, it's a rather humble understatement as a matter of fact. Look, the intellectual prowess required for successful engineering studies is the equivalent of literally brain dead crack cocaine niggers on a fucking street corner in a Detroit ghetto a late december evening while my big black cock is ramming your mother's asshole into Uranus.
Peace & Love Brother.

>> No.11452539

>>11452105
>it's not an overstatement
>the intellectual prowess required for successful engineering studies is the equivalent of literally brain dead crack cocaine niggers on a fucking street corner in a Detroit ghetto a late december evening while my big black cock is ramming your mother's asshole into Uranus.
Even if that was a joke typing all of that out is cringe. Also thanks for not responding to any of my other points.

>> No.11452819

any cheme here? what's the course like? would you reccomend it vs EE? i'm stuck between the 2

>> No.11452963

>>11444168
you forgot about economics, that's one of the most important things why math even exists

>> No.11453718

>>11452539
>typing all of that out is cringe
I'm a phoneposter too, which increases the cringe exponentially.
Dumb phoneposters (like me) literally fuck your mother, explain this simple fact of life my guy

>> No.11453724

>>11435403
>not science
>not math
a discipline to make better dildos so jew ceos can make more money. How do you respect yourself?