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is consciousness a wave or a particle?

>> No.11730079

>>11730051
Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXFFbxoHp3s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx0SsffdMBw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6018zvWyAs0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm6Mt9BoZ_M

>> No.11730085

we just don't know
all the theories I've seen are unfalsifiable

>> No.11730121

>>11730079
no
>>11730085
no
>>11730051
Consciousness is much more complicated. To reach enlightenment, we have to achieve Brahman Atman. This is done by releasing our consciousness into the universe of consciousness, and being accepted.

>> No.11731542

>>11730121
No

>> No.11731559

consciousness is just your neurons logically deducing that they are there
it's just you observing yourself, it's a trick of the light

>> No.11731563

>>11730121
We have never seen someone reaching a partial or full nirvana. It's just superstitions. Hindu and buddhist texts teach baseless things, unscientific, irrational and illogical.

>> No.11731633

>>11730079
>Quantum Woo of Consciousness
Orch OR is a pile of shit, son.

>> No.11732250

>>11730051
It is an emergent property

>> No.11732273

>>11730051
consciousness doesn't exist scientifically

>> No.11732312

>>11730051
All fundamental particles have wavelike properties

>> No.11732314

Most things are waves, particles exist but photons and electrons dont exist.

>> No.11732348

Consciousness arises from simple rules. It's an emergent phenomenon. Take the game of life, it's turing complete and you can in fact create a programmable computer in it (look for one on youtube).
Out of simple rules, amazing complexity.
This is the nature of consciousness.

Once we have enough machines connected on the internet, out of the sea of information will arise an AGI. Naturally.
We're just building the substrate for now.


So to answer your question, neither.

>> No.11732494

>>11730051
It's a testicle.

>> No.11732590

>>11732494
Or an owavery

>> No.11733074

>>11731563

*pre-empirical, albeit perfectly "rational". Especially Buddhism, a time-tested response to existential dread.

It's a typically western conceit to think that spiritual enlightenment can be achieved through rhetoric and equations.

>> No.11733080

>>11730051
It's composed of interactions of both.
Example: the human brain. You alter the machinery, you alter the consciousness.

>> No.11733089

>>11730051
>>11730079
>>11730085
>>11730121

>>>/x/

>> No.11733095

>>11733089
Seething unconscious automaton.

>> No.11733105

>>11733095
Not that guy but unironically yes, I am an automaton and my self awareness is vestigial at best.

>> No.11733156

>>11733074
This. We weren't meant to understand, but rather to find peace in our humility.

>> No.11736575

>>11731633
ORCH OR is true
>>11733089
ORCH OR is true

>> No.11741203

>>11730051
define "consciousness"
this shouldn't have taken 21 posts

>> No.11741607

>>11741203
A thing doesn't need a definition to have ontological existence.

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>>11741607
>>11741203
consciousness is consciousness

>> No.11741792

>>11741607
Is brazumbalumba a particle or a wave?

>> No.11741904

>>11741203
the relating of a relation that relates itself relating to itself
smth like that

>> No.11741920

>>11741792
Unlike Consciousness or God, brazumbalumba does not have ontological existence.

>> No.11743480

Just watched a podcast with Chalmers on. Never seen him speak before so maybe this is an anomaly, but he comes across as a complete retard lol. Can barely talk. Cant take this guy seriously.

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>>11730051
Neither, there are no dualities in nature.

>> No.11744079

>>11730121
>releasing our consciousness
Degen btw.

>> No.11745464

so human mind has a "clock"
how far can we OC?

>> No.11745476

>Hate trigonometry
>Find out that literally everything in our universe is just sine and cosine waves

FUCK