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What is the oldest age a person could hypothetically live to?

>> No.11985969

>>11985964
13 billion years

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>>11985964
you do realize you said hypothetically so I can pull any number I want out of my ass

>> No.11985982

>>11985964
tinyurl dot com slash FUCKWUMBA

>> No.11985994

>>11985964
80 years

>> No.11985999

>>11985964
To keep in line with chronology it would have to be some ratio of language handover from oldest living to youngest to whom it must be relevant and socially worthwhile to care about maintaining a massive mountain of health care records.

As an example, would a 5,000 year old have anything in common with a modern day English speaking teenager and need to maintain any interest? Chances are if they are 5,000 it is probably because they grew out of all that young retarded shit and left it behind for good.

>> No.11986325

>>11985964
Without intervention 140 seems to be a reasonable limit.

With intervention, there's nothing stopping us, thanks Aubrey

>> No.11986333

I don’t want to live past 63 personally.

>> No.11986357

>>11986333
Why 63

>> No.11986366

>>11986357
Divisible by 7, enough time to enjoy retirement before completely spiraling into death and health problems

>> No.11986455

ignoring all the ones who lied about their age, probably 120

>> No.11986464

What if I was born before records began?

>> No.11986466

>>11986455
120 is definitely breakable, I don't think anyone has made it past 130 yet though

>> No.11986467

>>11985964
200 as that's the longest a mammal as been documented living

bowhead whale

>> No.11986480

How much will the average life span increase with all the tech and biotech we can expect this century?

>> No.11986482

Counting is for weaklings.

True immortals only think in sigils and syllogisms!

>> No.11986548

>>11985964
Hypothetically, forever. But the odds aren't in your favor.

>> No.11986582

>>11986480
to ~140-150 at most if you can afford all that tech. Beyond that, I would say we can't go longer than that without recreating brain cells and maintain the same memory.

>> No.11986592

>>11986582
don't care about memory, pls reset mine

>> No.11986616

>>11985964
Your body stops aging at 90+. The problem is your body is such a worn down useless piece of shit by that point that the common cold can knock you out, and your brain has probably turned to mush so there's no quality of life.
Theoretically you could put someone into a hermetically sealed bubble with access to top tier medical experts and you could potentially live indefinitely as a grumpy bed ridden skeleton.

>> No.11986630

>>11986616
>Your body stops aging at 90+.
Yes, before 90 your chance to die increases each year, but after that it stays the same. You die simply because it is already very small. Lift it up a bit, and you will easily get to 140 or even 200.

>> No.11986641

>>11986630
The real question is, what is the quality of life like. If you're 110 years old, but blind, deaf, toothless, and retarded from advanced dementia how much are you going to look forward to another 90 years?

>> No.11986646

>>11986480
>>11986582
Is there a chance of someone like me, 27 years old, living to 300+?

Also, everyone keeps forgetting that we want to extend the healthspan as well, so you might be biologically 30-40 at 80-90 years old.

>> No.11986661

>>11986616
>Your body stops aging at 90+.
Slows down maybe, but stops?

>> No.11986666

>>11986646
I think if you will live to 150, you will also live to 300 and 600 because if you fix the most important breaking point, then improving the technology further would be easier.

>> No.11986670

>>11985964
Roughly a few hour.
Then that person go "asleep" and die. Hours later a new person similar to the previous one will wake up.


Alternatively:
Roughly 7 years.
Beyond that every single cell of your body have been replaced like Theseus ship.

>> No.11986692

>>11986670
Fuck off with that blind sight shit

>> No.11986786

No one should live past 70. Prove me wrong

Protip: you can't.

>> No.11986788

>>11986786
Proved!

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>>11986786
You shouldn't be allowed to live beyond that post.
Please kill yourself posthaste.

>> No.11986821

>>11985964
Scolastica Oliveri lived in Bivona, Italy, 1448–1578 (age 129–130), according to the archive of Monastero di San Paolo in Bivona located in Palermo.

>> No.11987076

>>11985964
Indefinite. The most damage that we suffer is currently:
Iron accumulating and replacing manganese. This turns MnSOD, a protein that protects from oxidative damage into a protein that oxidizes. Also causes obesity, diabetes and brain damage.
Copper deficiency. Causes dementia and iron accumulation. Copper is needed in iron and manganese regulating proteins and manganese is needed in copper regulating proteins, so deficiency in both may sem better than deficiency in one.
Calcium overload, leading to calcification. 300mg is sufficient and Mg seems to be necessary for Ca export from cells. Death from cardiovascular disease in the 60s is usually from this.

>> No.11987284

>>11986325

120 is a cultural number that has been tossed around a lot. Somewhere early on in the bible, after Methuselah and a bunch of people live anywhere from 300 to 1000 years, god says okay this is ridiculous, nobody lives over 120 now. The pleasure of the OP is that she disproves this, while at the same time validating the range as an approximate natural upper bound.

In the action flick T2, the decidedly inhuman terminator robot indicates that his power cell lasts for 120 years.

>> No.11987501

Naturally, I think it's 120. I don't think Jeanne Calment lived that long. If you look at past revisions of her wiki it was stuffed with images of her daughter. Aubrey thinks so too.

>> No.11987509

>>11986670
Consciousness is present in sleep. For example if the tv is on they don't wake up, but if you say someone's name they wake up. It's just different to waking consciousness.

>> No.11987699

>>11986666
Cool. All according to plan.

>> No.11987705

>>11987509
Understood.
So as soon as you are asleep, the body host a different less-able person capable of understanding only basic stimulus related to the memory of the previous deceased person. Then when the body wake up it's another whole person again.

Gotcha.

>> No.11987733

>>11986366
>>11986786
77 is a better number.

>> No.11988143

>>11987733
I disagree. 63 is the optimal age of death.

>> No.11990000

>>11986366
My grandparents are 90 and still live by themselves, cook for themselves, play piano, and have friends over for dinner. My grandmother swam up until she was 85.

>> No.11990027

Grahams number of years

>> No.11990057

Who cares


t. Someone who will probably die from cancer in the future

>> No.11990291

>>11990057
op does, you retard

>> No.11990481

>>11990000
That’s extremely uncommon and you know it

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>>11990000
>piano
I've heard that helps.
Maybe living in France, too. Olivia had her 104th and kicked the bucket, last month.

>> No.11992074

>>11985964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Tom_Parr
>Thomas Parr (c.1482/1483 (reputedly) – November 13, 1635) was an Englishman who was said to have lived for 152 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Ching-Yuen
>He claimed to have been born in 1736, while disputed records suggest 1677, implying an age at death of 197 and 256 years, respectively.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artephius
>A Renaissance tradition held that Artephius had been born in the first or second century and died in the twelfth, thanks to having discovered the alchemical elixir that made it possible to prolong life. In his Secret Book, Artephius indeed claims to be more than a thousand years old.

>> No.11992119

>>11985964
149 seems to be the biological limit. Physically, your cells can only last so long before they literally break down and kill themselves.

>> No.11992679

>>11992119
No. >>11987076
It's the manganese->iron mismetallation what kills them. Once iron gets into superoxide dismutase in place of manganese, the enzyme starts destroying cells instead of protecting them. There is nothing programmed about it, the body only fails to keep the iron away.

>> No.11993842

>>11992679
Then we just need to take iron out of our diet

>> No.11993888 [DELETED] 

>>11993842
Basically yes.

>> No.11993915 [DELETED] 

>>11993842
We'd need some other metal that will replace iron in hemoglobin (it seems Mn would work in myoglobin, but not hemoglobin), but basically yes.

>> No.11993928

Im 27 and i hope i die when im 28
not even joking
fuck this gay earth

>> No.11993954

>>11993842
Basically. At least the accepted levels are wrong, and likely based on people suffering iron overload (the "latent iron deficiency" is in fact normal). The problem is that not all proteins could work with Mn instead, especially hemoglobin, which mean we would still need some iron, unless the iron can be replaced with yet another metal.

>> No.11994837

>>11985964
>hypothetically
hypothetically speaking someone could live until the end of the universe

>> No.11994842

>>11986815
I refuse to acknowledge any movement with Eliezer Yudkowsky in it as chad.

>> No.11994843

>>11985964
lets find out !

>> No.11995013

>>11994842
>Eliezer Yudkowsky
You are just jealous.

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