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Is homeschooling a superior form of education compared to public schools?

>> No.15205187

>>15205007
Could homeschool be better than public school that caters to the slowest kid? Sure
But the people not rich enough to afford private school are also probably not rich enough to take time off work to teach their kids all day.

>> No.15205239

>>15205007
There's probably a difference in learning how to cut wood and how to read on a 12-grade level. Even with all the money and assistance currently poured into our education system, many people cannot even read on a 8-grade level. There's no way, that traditional home-based education could get you meaningful literacy if the person in question isn't teaching that to himself.

>> No.15205259

>>15205239
tone down the ESL'isms

>> No.15205274

>>15205259
>sorry for using big words
dat be buzzing fr fr though.

>> No.15205277

>>15205239
>There's no way, that traditional home-based education could get you meaningful literacy if the person in question isn't teaching that to himself.
Read books, nigger. I had a 12th grade reading level by 3rd grade because my parents read me novels and scientific journals as a child instead of children's books.

>> No.15205317

>>15205277
I was prevented from reading certain books in public elementary school because the teachers said that they were too hard for me to read, as I was reading them. They would take us to the library and tell us to pick out a book to read. Then they had the balls to come and take the book right out of my hands as I was reading it and tell me to pick something simpler.

>> No.15205351

>>15205317
Hence why public schooling needs to be abolished.

>> No.15205423
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>>15205007
>Is homeschooling a superior form of education compared to public schools?
Obviously!
Unless you want to learn how to avoid being shanked/shot/raped/sexually molested/groomed/transgendered, then public government-indoctrination schools are bettter for that.

>> No.15205428

>>15205317
>Then they had the balls to come and take the book right out of my hands as I was reading it and tell me to pick something simpler.
Those women had balls? Guessing they were troons?

>> No.15205433

>>15205423
Oh another great achievement for Jimmy Carter huh, after being one of the most hated men in Iran.

>> No.15205437

>>15205433
Don't forget crippling nuclear energy.

>> No.15205439

>>15205007
Modern public schools in the US are glorified daycare facilities that exist so mommy and daddy can go work for Mr. Toilstein a full 8 hours a day. The curriculum is %70 fluff and completely unnecessary up until the late high school or collegiate level. Trim it down to 4 hours a day max and focus on literacy and math with MAYBE the odd sprinkle of history/humanities and an hour of play/socialization time. But oh no, that might require at least one stay at home parent and we can’t have that now.

>> No.15205462

>homeschool your child
>pay more money for the same education
>your child is isolated and has no social life thanks to you
>your child is also spoiled by having a private teacher only for him and tests adapted to him
>your child ends up being incapable when entering in the adult life because no social skills, has never known struggle and can't achieve anything without being assisted

>> No.15205482

>>15205462
>pay more money for the same education
You get your tax money back if you homeschool.

>> No.15205486

>>15205439
>public schools in the US are glorified daycare facilities that exist so mommy and daddy can go work for Mr. Toilstein a full 8 hours a day.
So true. And most of those wage slaves and welfare queens don't even own property, so don't pay for the schools.

>> No.15205490

>>15205462
>tired old same big corporate talking points against homeschooling.
public education = one of the largest corporate scams in the US and western world.

Homeschooled kids outperform their peers in every single area, consistently, for decades.

>> No.15205506

>>15205351
It really does. Or at the minimum trimmed back 75%.

>> No.15205519 [DELETED] 

>>15205462
>homeschool your child
>get thomas edison for a kid

>> No.15205585

>>15205519
oh noes! They didn't become a Ph.D. in "gender studies" and work as assistant manager at Starbucks!
The HORROR!

>> No.15205642

>>15205490
Yeah no shit since families with better condition homeschool their children they educate him better but the subjects are the same. I'm sorry you live in America but I've chosen the best public high school and once in uni studying physics I was outperforming my peers.

It's like everything in life, choose the right things and you get rewarded for it, otherwise the suboptimal choice seems more appealing for you

>> No.15205647

>>15205007
Completely dependent on your parents
Homeschooling can produce kids who massively outpace public schools and it can also produce incompetent fuckups

>> No.15205656

I knew a kid who was homeschooled and he was awkward and cringe. Probably better than having to deal with going to a diverse school system like I did though. Never had any problems personally since I played football growing up with a lot of them (the niggers and spics) but other kids suffered from their inclusion. But this was before schools were entirely dedicated to trooning out kids so I guess the math has changed even more.

>> No.15205663

also I've never quite got why 1 parent does the homeschooling. Seems like a better idea for a large group of parents to pool their money together and pay a retired teacher or someone to do the teaching and homework checking. Maybe people already do this I dunno. Like hire someone with a phd to do a lecture on what they have the phd in for a few hours every once in a while to change things up.

>> No.15205670

>>15205007
If you live in a good district, the nearby school can teach 85%+ of what your kid needs to know. If your child is advanced and has more potential than their peers, you can just supplement that instead of going full homeschool

>> No.15205674

>>15205647
>Homeschooling can produce kids who massively outpace public schools and it can also produce incompetent fuckups
Apples and Trees,
Turds and Assholes.
Doesn't matter what shit parents do, their kids will 99% be shit like them.
Same for good parents/genetics.

>> No.15205697 [DELETED] 

>>15205663
People do already do that! "Homeschool co-ops" and "family daycares" (for preschool aged children) are very common around the U.S. You'll find that many communities have them, though they're usually invite-only.

>> No.15205717

>>15205663
People do already do that! "Homeschool co-ops" are very common around the U.S. You'll find that many communities have them, though they're usually invite-only. Usually one of the parents with an advanced degree is the primary teacher.

>> No.15205719

>>15205697
>they're usually invite-only.
That's how you keep the riff-raff out. Our local churches run HS programs, are about 100 kids or more in our church's homeschool co-op.

It's basically like an elementary school size now, big get togethers, sporting events, holiday events, the works. So much better than the local public schools.

>> No.15205735

>>15205462
You guys exaggerate the social impact of being homeschooled, my mother had a full blown psychotic episode and allowed me to be expelled in middle school and not go to school and I ended up socially fine, did well in business and for one company a specialist that trained managers to train

>> No.15205746

>>15205007
>tfw homeschooling is illegal in my cuntry
What a sad reality, having to send my future child to the same slavehouse I had to spend 12 years of my life even though I was smarter than everyone in there.

>> No.15205778

>>15205719
yeah sounds like the only way to do things now.
>>15205735
>expelled in middle school
you were socialized in the important period. homeschooling during middle/high school makes a lot of sense desu. I did running start in high school (take community college courses for free) and found that to be way better than my high school classes. getting your kid into a really nice elementary school seems to be the best play then homeschooling + lots of sports or some church coop thing

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>>>/pol/

>> No.15205865

>>15205239
The vast majority of people who graduate high school do not and will not ever read at a 12th grade level.

>> No.15205867

i learned jack shit at school. they would repeat the same lessons from years earlier and never divulge into new content

>> No.15205869

>>15205007
Not where I live. The schools have way more resources than the average person, and their time is specifically dedicated to helping the kids. Not to mention the social aspect.

>> No.15206235

>>15205462
There are millions of public schooled kids who are isolated and have no social life WHILE going to school much less afterwards.

Homeshooling implies you spend more time with your kid, if not have one stay-at-home parent, and as a result end up being more social. Additionally, you will have the thing that counts most and forms the basis of your life and success: Strong family bonds. It is more guaranteed to be pro-social than school is. But it has the important effect of not being a stranger to your family. Ofc it can go wrong, as can school. But it is generally better socially and undoubtedly better in education especially now with the internet.

>> No.15206244

>>15205187
That is why people bring their kids to work and teach them as they go like nearly every family business that existed prior to the 20th century.

>> No.15206317

>>15205462
>pay more money for the same education
No.
>your child is isolated and has no social life thanks to you
You can still sign homeschool kids up for sports and hobbies, though, or just have more than one kid.

>tests adapted to him
>has never known struggle
But if the tests were adapted to him, they would have specifically made it hard enough for him to struggle instead of having tests adapted to the lowest common denominator that he breezes right through.

>> No.15206322 [DELETED] 

>>15206317
>or just have more than one kid.
protip: make the older kid homeschool the younger ones.

>> No.15206323

>>15205462
I'm tired of this meme.

>> No.15206325

>>15205007
Depends on the parents.
/thread

>> No.15206350

>>15205462
Fun Fact: Its actually much easier to properly socialize a child if they aren't being traumatized by retards raised by drug addicts for half of their waking day every day for 75% of the year until they become adults.

>> No.15206385

>>15205007
Undoubtedly, I honestly think I'd have learnt a lot more with a personal tutor ans youtube. Only thing is how would you give peer interaction to kids that is necessary to function in society? How'd they get friends etc, if homeschooling was much more popular this wouldn't be an issue but what about now?

>> No.15206387

>>15206385
Well in a functioning community you should already be part of a church which has many children in it doing activities or going to Sunday School, so they should be interacting with good people already. But if you want extra interaction have your kids join a club or sports league, or a scouting/camping group. Little League, some kind of martial arts dojo, Boy Scouts, a junior artists program, etc.

>> No.15206406

>>15205007
That's the most retarded thing i read today.
"Do you remember diying at 40 and being an analphabet? We do, and we miss it"
America...

>> No.15206423

>>15205007
Absolutely. The brain damage i got before dropping out and doing a self-paced program was unreal. Public school is just free daycare, and when you have to cater to the stupidest kids, it's a recipe for disaster for anyone with more brains than a rock.
Not to mention the fact that I've got a different circadian rhythm, so I could hardly wake up at all.
Above-average test scores but put me in class and I was dumb as a rock. Now I get up at noon and work into the night and my body feels 100% healthier.
Unfortunately it's hard to homeschool if you aren't rich enough to stay home with the kids all day. I got lucky and dropped public school by the time I could start working, so I can pay for my own share.

>> No.15206441

>>15205007
It doesn't seem that children were taught in such a hands on way as suggested in the picture. They were mostly let roam on their own. It's only because human intelligence fell so dramatically that this seems to make sense. You can see it even by comparing old vs new textbooks. Old textbooks relied on children getting the concepts, new one explain everything down to the minutest detail that actually make them confusing, as you have no idea what and why is even being explained.

>> No.15206444

>>15206441
Schools used to be segregated. When one entire segment of the population has an IQ 1 std dev. below the rest everything ends up dumber to compensate.

>> No.15206462

>>15205007
No.
My counselors tried to force to take EXTREMELY low level classes, despite my grades in middleschool and highschool. They wanted me to take a remedial reading class despite reading significantly above my classmates when I started highschool. I was actually taken aside by my teacher and was told I didn't belong there. She gave me a choice, take the easy A or choose something else. I had a chance to take a pre-calculus class my junior year and was actually told that I could NOT take it, despite my A-B grades in my former algebra and geometry classes. I was forced to take an "algebra III" class my senior year, there's no such thing as algebra III.. it's just college algebra. I took something in KY called a KYOTE test within the first few days of class, and scored perfect 30 and I was still required to take algebra III, my counselor refused to move me up. Public school was complete garbage.

>> No.15206463

>>15205007
>Is homeschooling a superior form of education compared to public schools?
No education is better than public schooling for most people.

>> No.15206464

>>15206462
Sorry, I meant yes. By saying no, I was thinking about public school.

>> No.15206465

>>15205239
>There's probably a difference in learning how to cut wood and how to read on a 12-grade level.
Yes and the difference is that the former needs an instructor while the latter just needs your mom to teach you your ABCs. Public school drones like you blow my mind.

>> No.15206470

>>15205239
>Even with all the money and assistance currently poured into our education system, many people cannot even read on a 8-grade level.
Good job refuting your own position, retard. I like how the answer to the persistent failures of public schooling is always more public schooling according to the publicly schooled.

>> No.15206524

>>15206444
IQ is a garbage metric that has at best nothing to do with intelligence, at worst it is inversely correlated with intelligemce.

>> No.15206531

>>15206524
>i scored low on an IQ test

>> No.15206562

why does that brown-haired man have a blonde son?

>> No.15206580

>>15206562
That's completely normal and also you are a pajeet living in India. You have never left India.

>> No.15206635

>>15206531
U didn't.

>> No.15206644

>>15205239
That is the big problem of modern public schooling they don't teach reading. No really. In the past school was the place you to leabr reading and writing. Today 80% of the school hours are not dedicated to improvements if reading and writing. And it shows literalccy of public education students falls.

I think homeschooling focused on actually userfull skills like reading and writing can easily out perform such public schooling

>> No.15206651

>>15205462
>>pay more money for the same education
Yeah. People homeschooling their children should get cashback equal to public school expenses. Imagine people would get $15000 per year for homeschooled kid, public schooling simply can't compete....

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>>15205007

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>>15206644
>t.

>> No.15206722

>>15206695
>t. didn't see modern school curriculums

>> No.15206737

>>15206722
Your own post demonstrates a strikingly poor level of literacy, you actual retard.

>> No.15206743

>>15205007
Maybe if you're white and have intelligent parents

>> No.15206747

>>15206743
If you're not white and don't have intelligent parents, education isn't going to help you.

>> No.15206754

>>15206737
Ain't gonna try better with one on phone.

>> No.15206758

>>15206754
Ok, retard. You are a perfect example of what public """education""" means in practice.

>> No.15206791

>>15206387
Sounds like that's sorted then, now that I think of it, most of my most special memories are from the playground rather than the classroom and when we moved I made friends before I got enrolled in the local school.

>> No.15206886

>>15205007
I was taken out of school in 4th grade, due to bullying that was enabled by the teachers, and homeschooled for a while.
I'm such an autistic faggot that homeschooling became unschooling, wherein I was trusted to construct my own curriculum.
I instead spent my youth playing vidya and reading manga until I wanted to learn things I was/am interested in as an adult.
Now I can tell you more detail about the lives of every American mercenary involved in Angola in 1975/76 than you could find in any one source, but can't do medium level multiplication.

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>>15205007
modern schools are meant to indoctrinate kids to fuel the industrial social machine with their labor

>> No.15207777

>>15206690
good public schools

>> No.15207783

>>15205007
Obviously. The only thing they'll learn in public school is that the government won't intervene when they get jumped by niggers.

>> No.15207802

>>15205007
The average parent is retarded and doesn't have money to hire competent private tutors so no

>> No.15207815

>>15205869
>Another obvious public education graduate.

>>15206406
>That's the most retarded thing i read today.
>"Do you remember diying at 40 and being an analphabet? We do, and we miss it"
^Must have been Valedictorian of his public school.

kek

>> No.15207823

>>15205007
>Is homeschooling a superior form of education compared to public schools?
That depends entirely on what you want the outcome of an education to be. Do you want it standardized; do you want students to also learn cultural values and norms and life skills, and not simply academics; do you want school to be publicly provided daycare? There are many questions to answer, and you'll find that there's no system that gives everyone a positive response to even a small subset of those questions.
The public school modality has, if nothing else, the ability to shape a person into a member of a society. Some people screech and reeee about this as "indoctrination" but only when the ideology being instilled isn't their own. When Americans schools taught that racism died in 1965 with the Civil Rights Acts and that the Civil War was about state's rights, for instance, the majority of people weren't screeching about propaganda. Change the narrative, and the REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs echo through the distance...
If nothing else, homeschooling fails to properly socialize children in our highly social world. Every homeschooled kid I have ever met was a fucking goober who ended up being a degen adult, which is ironic considering all of their parents were conservative types angry that schools might indoctrinate children. I could understand why the anti-social, ADD-riddled autists around here can't understand that proper socialization is incredibly important in society, but I assure you that this singular failing of homeschool is the biggest reason you should consider against 100% home schooled primary education.

inb4 some idiot says a bunch of dumbshit like get a group of neighborhood kids together as a bigger home school, it's not better to initiate kids into some schizo cult behavior than government propaganda

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>>15206743
>Maybe if you're white and have intelligent parents
So proponents of government controlled public education think that anyone who isn't white is not smart enough to teach basic skills like math and reading? C'mon Man!

>> No.15207829

>>15206244
My coworkers already act like children. Forgive me if I would push their screaming spawn down the stairwell.

>> No.15207833

>>15207823
>ideology being instilled
Ideology has NO PLACE in education.
Your kind have NO PLACE in society anymore.
Mob purges are needed.

>> No.15207835

>>15207829
kek

>> No.15207880

>>15207826
Have you never seen american ghettos or something?
I don't think those people are interested in learning.

>> No.15207883

>>15207829
you coworkers act differently when they're around their family. they're more concerned about their reputation with their children than they are about their professional reputation. you sound like you have anger management issues if you have violent fantasies like that

>> No.15207890

>>15207880
anon was being ironical

>> No.15208076

>>15207880
Some blacks are, i know one. He did well in school and university and told me his family used to mock him for studying. Part of his success is his capacity to persevere despite bullying, just as much as his IQ

>> No.15208258

>>15208076
And is that one normal black person in a 100k of retarded niggers worth the rest of them burning your country down?

>> No.15208282

>>15207823
>implies that government schools are good at creating "members of society"
I'm gonna stop you right there.
Government schools are good for creating wagies, and that's it.
If you want your kids to have a chance at becoming successful, starting a business, getting a good degree, then homeschool is the absolutely correct choice (if you can't afford private school that is).

>> No.15208286

>>15208282
Private school is more pozed than public in many places. It's fucked up how insane the curriculum can be because it's not standardized. Only a religious school can (potentially) have an actually rigorous curriculum and even then it's low odds.

>> No.15208357

>>15208282
>you want your kids to have a chance at becoming successful, starting a business, getting a good degree
Only like 5% of people should start businesses/get degrees in reality. If you're homeschooling your kid, then they're not going to be one of the ones worthy of doing so.

Public education has its uses, it creates productive members who belong where they are. You wouldn't teach calculus to a trashman. Home schooling only fucks children up emotionally and socially.

>> No.15208425

>>15206524
>IQ is a garbage metric that has at best nothing to do with intelligence, at worst it is inversely correlated with intelligemce.
>>15206524

Dark skinned fingers wrote this.

>> No.15208568

>>15205462
>He hasn't heard of pod schooling