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well, /sci/?

>> No.15212233

>>15212217
The flies apply an opposing force equal to the force needed to achieve flight. The scale reads 1kg.

>> No.15212241

>>15212217
prove it's possible first. provide weight and volume of a fly, and specify a material that can make a 1 kg container which can contain 0.5 kg of flies without any of them resting on the interior surface of the container, without being so thin that the force of one of the flies landing on the container's surface shatters it

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>>15212217
well?

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>>15212233
the air acts as a neutral force, the flap of their wings act as a transmutative force

>> No.15212340

>>15212217
To solve this problem, you first need to solve the Einstein field equations for a hollow nonrotating cylinder in an otherwise empty universe.

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>> No.15212533

>>15212233
nothing, because scales can't read

>> No.15212537

1kg

>> No.15212598

>>15212242
whats the angle of inclination of the orange portal?

>> No.15213912

>>15212533
/thread/

>> No.15213926

you assholes make me sick

>> No.15213930

>>15212217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVeP6oqH-Qo

>> No.15213936

>>15212217
closed system, 2nd law

1.5 kg

>> No.15214565

every time I see this thread I want to school you retards on viscous dissipation but I know it'll just be a waste of time

>> No.15214742

>>15212242
Gravity will leak from orange portal to blue portal, fucking up the results

>> No.15215004

.5kg because of the lid

>> No.15215013

>>15212217
the allegory would work better with a hummingbird

>> No.15215014

>>15213936
so if there was no lid it would be 1kg?

>> No.15215017

It's no different than placing ice cubes in a glass of water.

>> No.15215026

>>15214565
Come on buddy some of us are here to learn

>> No.15215028

>>15215017
Isn't it though?

>> No.15215029

>>15212217
The kinetic energy of the fly's wings adds to the mass of the jar, as per [math]E=mc^2[/math]

>> No.15215039

>>15215028
Yes. It is.
The air and water are both fluids.
The ice cubes are suspended by buoyancy, where the flies are held up by the thrust generated by their wings.
From a fluid dynamics perspective there is no difference.
Both will result in a downward force equal to their mass, regardless of where they are in the fluid. If they are on the bottom of the jar or floating in the middle, no difference.
Of course I know this is a bait thread I thought I'd chime in anyway

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>jar of flies
Too bad zoomies will never know what real music sounds like.

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>>15212217
The flies aren't flapping their wings, therefore they are resting on the jar. 1.5kg.

>> No.15215090

>>15212518
>1.0 kg because the flies are in a vacuum
If the flies were in a vacuum wouldn't they be sucked to the edge of the jar? How can they stay still in the vacuum?

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>>15212217

>> No.15215113

>>15212598
who cares, air moves in all directions

>> No.15215127

>>15212242
No difference

>> No.15216107

>>15212217
weight is measured in newtons, not kg.

Retard question

>> No.15216134

>>15212217
1.5kg ?

>> No.15216155

>>15212217
Imagine if they were not flies but tiny fish in a glass filled with water

>> No.15216274

>>15215014
yes

>> No.15216275

>>15216274
actually no

>> No.15216276

>>15216107
t. babby just got 74% on his first year physics exam and thinks he's hot shit

>> No.15218600

>>15212217
I imagine it would be similar to measuring the weight of someone using a jump rope. Appling force and then none while in the air. The flapping of the flies wings would be analogous to the individual jumps. At 1 atmosphere the jar should weigh the same whether it was a closed or open system (ignoring the flies). I think the scale would change measurements depending on the motion of the flies, be it ascending or descending. Let me now if I wrong tho.

>> No.15219060

>>15212217
Needs to include the weight of the air contained in jar.