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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:31:09 2023 No.15492741 first post

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:32:10 2023 No.15492742 >>15492737 So which one's the memedrive test bed?

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:32:21 2023 No.15492743
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO3luySkHQU
link to stream, starting in 2 days

pic is the different payloads speculated by nasaspaceflight, pic is over in original png, but the link has it
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=56358.0;attach=2190499;image

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=56358.100

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:34:41 2023 No.15492745 >>15492743 now when I compare them seem like actually almost no difference at all >>15492742 Rogue space IVO supposedly >>15492598 but I don't see in the pic done by nasasapceflight

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:34:52 2023 No.15492746 >>15492737 >>15492743 What's the source for this? Leak? I'd assume that would be classified seeing there's 3 Darpa sats.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:36:35 2023 No.15492748 >>15492745 Thanks Anon. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:38:08 2023 No.15492752 >>15492746 Blackjack isn't all that special: https://www.darpa.mil/program/blackjack

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:38:36 2023 No.15492753 File: 723 KB, 671x548, 003920.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15492746 Launcher https://twitter.com/launcher/status/1667200999914868736

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:41:59 2023 No.15492756
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https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1667292366095413249

Firefly has new renders of their medium launch vehicle, a falcon 9 competitor

> The vehicle will enable direct payload deliveries to customers’ preferred orbits at a comparable cost per kilogram to existing reusable rockets.

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:44:09 2023 No.15492758
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>>15492756
https://fireflyspace.com/mlv/

> Building on the Success of Antares and Alpha

>MLV will utilize the Firefly-manufactured Antares 330 first stage that’s powered by seven Firefly Miranda engines and a new liquid upper stage incorporating one Miranda derived vacuum engine. The vehicle will utilize technologies from Firefly’s flight-proven Alpha vehicle, such as all carbon composite structures and tap-off cycle engines, and will evolve into a reusable vehicle.

>Launching from Virginia’s Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport (MARS) on Wallops Island, MLV is also designed to be compatible with other launch ranges, including Cape Canaveral Space Force Station (CCSFS), Florida, and Vandenberg Space Force Base (VSFB), California.

https://fireflyspace.com/news/northrop-grumman-teams-with-firefly-aerospace-to-develop-antares-rocket-upgrade-and-new-medium-launch-vehicle/

> Northrop Grumman Teams with Firefly Aerospace to Develop Antares Rocket Upgrade and New Medium Launch Vehicle

> CHANDLER, Ariz. – Aug. 8, 2022 – Northrop Grumman Corporation (NYSE: NOC) and Firefly Aerospace have joined forces to provide an American-built first-stage upgrade for the Antares rocket and a new medium launch vehicle to serve commercial, civil and national security space launch markets.

> Firefly’s propulsion technology utilizes the same propellants as the current Antares rocket, which minimizes launch site upgrades. The Antares 330 will utilize seven of Firefly’s Miranda engines and leverage its composites technology for the first stage structures and tanks, while Northrop Grumman provides its proven avionics and software, upper-stage structures and Castor 30XL motor, as well as proven vehicle integration and launch pad operations. This new stage will also significantly increase Antares mass to orbit capability.

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:48:30 2023 No.15492763
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/09/layoffs-hit-colorado-space-companies-ursa-major-orbit-fab.html

both of these are startups, Ursa Major started in 2015 and Orbit fab in 2018

> Ursa Major Technologies is an American aerospace company founded in 2015 and based in Berthoud, Colorado. The company produces rocket engines and sells them to space launch and hypersonics companies, and the U.S. Government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursa_Major_Technologies

> Orbit Fab is an American startup based in Lafayette, Colorado, United States, that develops in-space refueling systems for satellites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit_Fab

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 09:51:28 2023 No.15492766
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https://spacenews.com/u-s-space-force-in-talks-with-allies-about-how-to-jointly-protect-space-assets/

> WASHINGTON — U.S. Space Force deputy chief of space operations Lt. Gen. DeAnna Burt during a recent trip to Germany and the United Kingdom heard a consistent message from allies: They don’t expect the United States to bear all the costs of protecting satellites from cyber attacks and other threats.

> In an interview with SpaceNews, Burt said a growing number of spacefaring nations are looking to work with the United States on technologies and strategies to defend their assets from anti-satellite weapons, and are increasingly making their own investments in space defense systems.

Space actually about to become a new operating domain?

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 10:21:16 2023 No.15492797
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https://spacenews.com/new-spending-caps-to-create-challenges-for-nasa/

> How those new spending caps will affect spending for individual agencies remains uncertain, since the cap is not an across-the-board measure. Appropriators will get allocations for each of 12 spending bills, such as the commerce, justice and science bill that includes NASA, and then determine how to distribute that funding among various agencies and departments.

> “We do have to face the reality of the debt limit ceiling agreement and what might happen to our 2024 budget request,” said Pam Melroy, NASA deputy administrator, during a June 7 joint meeting of the National Academies’ Aeronautics and Space Engineering Board and Space Studies Board. “We recognize that it’s unlikely we will get the full request, and we know that’s going to create challenges for us in the future.”

> “I think it’s fair to say there will be stress,” she said, such as the ongoing concerns about budgets for science missions. “This will be challenging.”

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 10:22:40 2023 No.15492800 >>15492797 scrap sls yesterday, have all the science budget you could dream of

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 10:24:43 2023 No.15492805
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https://spacenews.com/house-republicans-introduce-bill-to-create-an-independent-noaa/

> The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Act of 2023, introduced by Rep. Frank Lucas (R-Okla.) and 13 other Republican members, would formally establish NOAA into law and create it as an independent agency, rather than as part of the Commerce Department as it is today.

> Lucas and other supporters of the bill have argued that turning NOAA into an independent agency, like NASA, would reduce bureaucracy. An at April hearing about the proposed legislation, three former heads of NOAA argued that having to coordinate activities with Commerce Department officials that often had little understanding of NOAA slowed down their work.

>Activities ranging from budget planning to “all-hands” emails “had to go through several different layers in the Department of Commerce, and it’s usually being reviewed by people that don’t really understand NOAA’s mission and don’t really have the scientific expertise,” said Neil Jacobs, who served as acting administrator of NOAA during part of the Trump administration. “To me it felt very unnecessary.”

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 10:33:26 2023 No.15492822 >>15492766 space should be about exploration, not nationalistic dick measuring contests.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 10:39:51 2023 No.15492834 >>15492743 >NuSat

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 10:41:52 2023 No.15492836 >>15492766 >germany >united kingdom >space fairing nations

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 10:46:28 2023 No.15492841 >>15492822 >exploration >yep, more roggs Nationalist dickwaving is the very essence of space adventuring

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 10:51:13 2023 No.15492847 >>15492841 roggs are cool tho

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:01:42 2023 No.15492866
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Finally a good edition, a bunch of interesting cargo on this one, Varda is sending up the first 0G factory, and VAST's subsidiary Launcher is sending up their orbital tug, which could be a good stable income for them until Haven-1 is fully constructed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:04:15 2023 No.15492875 >>15492758 This is literally just another Falcon 9 rip off, and by the time they've finished it Starship will be fully operational making it wholely obsolete. Another spacelaunch company has set its death watch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:05:01 2023 No.15492877 >>15492737 So? Where are the humans on the Moon? I get the impression that NASA has been promising to send humans to the Moon since Obama... And every year, it's for the following year......

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:17:44 2023 No.15492895

>>15492875
well, DOD will want at least one other company for redundancy
not sure if the government is going to keep like 4 companies alive for redundancy
Blue Origin has New Glenn, Firefly has MLV, Rocketlab has Neutron, Relativity has Terran R
BO will stay alive just through bezosbucks for a long time, perhaps they can even catch up to SpaceX eventually, some Starship or next generation vehicle later when the improvements with chemical rockets and reusability like that start to run out
but how long will that take? 20 years?
Firefly, Rocketlab and Relativity won't be able to compete through cost alone, not really sure how they can compete
maybe there will be a massive explosion in demand for launches, so much so that SpaceX won't be able to deliver it themselves, which will drive up the cost of launching to a level that Firefly, Rocketlab and Relativity will be able to stay profitable, just with lower margins than SpaceX
not really sure what that would be though, how many constellations are really needed or can stay in business simultaneously? the more are needed, the more base launch capability is needed, lower costs themselves might induce a lot more demand in other applications as well, but the lead time on that is high so I don't know if that has been really noticeable yet
I've seen it said many times that launch cost isn't the deciding factor for science missions usually
and I guess that might be true now due to mass autism, but if science missions try to embrace making the instruments cheaper but more copies instead, then perhaps they could ride down the launch cost curve too and there would be more demand for the market from there

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:25:27 2023 No.15492905 Bros I want to see a lunar lava tube

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:26:57 2023 No.15492909

>>15492895
by the time the eu/uk realise a6 is doa and that actually space is kind of important like defence and basic national security rather than trying to be the embodiment of vague progressive bollocks: the continent, they'll be so far behind that the smallsat launchers will make bank as they throw money at space infrastructure with no time to develop domestic workhorses.

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:46:29 2023 No.15492949

Caption

This infrared image from NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope (JWST) was taken for the JWST Advanced Deep Extragalactic Survey, or JADES, program. It shows a portion of an area of the sky known as GOODS-South, which has been well studied by the Hubble Space Telescope and other observatories. More than 45,000 galaxies are visible here.

Using these and other data, the JADES team has discovered hundreds of galaxies that existed when the universe was less than 600 million years old. The sheer number of these galaxies was far beyond predictions from observations made before Webb’s launch.

The team also has identified galaxies that existed during a time known as the Epoch of Reionization, when the universe underwent a transformation from opaque to transparent. Many of these galaxies shown unusually strong emission line signatures due to the creation of multitudes of hot, massive stars.

cosmologybros???

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:48:52 2023 No.15492953 https://webbtelescope.org/contents/media/images/2023/127/01H1Q1CGJD51CDJTK2NHJWD06M

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:51:08 2023 No.15492959 >>15492953 new wallpaper acquired

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 11:52:19 2023 No.15492960 >>15492959 get the 120 MB version

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:01:52 2023 No.15492971 >>15492960 impressive. very nice.

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:10:48 2023 No.15492989

>>15492895
Just a reminder, the launch cadence will be MUCH higher with Starship than F9, and it has much higher mass capacity and rideshare capability. It WILL be anle to cover whatever demand comes, so the only reason for any other competitor to exist is as a redundancy, and BO will outlast all the other companies if they dont buy them up.0

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:14:22 2023 No.15492996 File: 21 KB, 555x505, virginorbit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] RIP @VirginOrbit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:16:56 2023 No.15493003 >>15492953 https://youtu.be/awHaAVE2xYY

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:21:33 2023 No.15493013 >>15492996 britbros, our (not)independent access to the stats?

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:24:13 2023 No.15493020

>>15492989
that is the assumption
Starship will be able to launch absolutely massive amounts of stuff into space, but what if the demand is absolutely massive + more?
Even with high cadence
1) launch areas will be a bottleneck at some point, building new ones takes a lot of time and assuming that gets solved by something like sealaunch platforms
2) Building new Starship factories takes time, the Starship factories themselves have a max output
these factors will put an upper bound on the amount of mass SpaceX can send into space at any given time and even if they grew really fast by building new launch locations, new factories etc, there would still be a limit on how high that is
it is unlikely that demand would actually grow quicker than Starship will be able to service (which is one of the reasons Starlink exists), but who knows
just speculating about a scenario where these Falcon 9 competitors have a commercial reason to exist

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:38:03 2023 No.15493034
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHar0extlIM

>

Starbase Texas never sleeps and this week is certainly no exception. You don’t want to miss all the great insights we’ve picked up this week. NASA's Concerns with SpaceX Starship Delay is an interesting topic. How will this affect Artemis 3? We had the amazing CRS-28 Commercial Resupply mission with an interesting twist, a spacewalk to install a little of what was delivered, more Starlink version 2 minis taking flight, a sweet ULA Vulcan Test Fire, and a bunch of real cool stuff at the end of this video so stick around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:46:05 2023 No.15493039 >>15492756 That page has been basically unchanged for a few months, besides increasing the payload figure goes to show how little people care about MLV

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 12:49:50 2023 No.15493043 >>15492989 Starship is several years from Falcon flight rates

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 13:02:27 2023 No.15493053 >>15493043 Even before that, it will be shipping out Falcon 9s mass to orbit easily

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 13:22:45 2023 No.15493087 File: 369 KB, 716x416, 1630675549273.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15492877 >And every year, it's for the following year...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 13:24:22 2023 No.15493090 >>15492895 >Blue Origin has New Glenn >>15492989 >BO will outlast all the other companies if they dont buy them up But will New Glenn still not have launched by then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 13:33:54 2023 No.15493102 File: 552 KB, 658x805, 003929.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/coldhealing/status/1667173818077462530

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 13:36:56 2023 No.15493104 File: 2.18 MB, 2738x4096, 3EAECEB0-FFB8-489A-9B22-F8C9C80925C5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15492737 nice OP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 13:50:04 2023 No.15493113 What are your thoughts on the #countdowntovulcan campaign?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 13:52:08 2023 No.15493118 >>15493113 I don't care what some fucks at ULA are doing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:07:17 2023 No.15493131 File: 26 KB, 455x553, 1649854267764.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493102 >>>/biz/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:11:07 2023 No.15493135 >>15493113 It must suck because this is the first I've heard of it. Launch or don't launch, I don't care, just don't keep me waiting. I would have been equally happy whether that engine test worked or blew up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:21:12 2023 No.15493141 File: 199 KB, 627x508, birb mouth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been out for a few weeks, did I miss anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:23:48 2023 No.15493142 File: 33 KB, 994x559, SpaceXPride.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15492743 Go SpaceX!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:25:30 2023 No.15493145 File: 542 KB, 1161x1821, forerunner suits vs artemis suits.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why can't we have better looking spacesuits?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:29:16 2023 No.15493148 File: 59 KB, 271x450, henryXIIIArmor05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493145 Space suits need to be thick for insulation and holding in pressure which makes them baggy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:31:01 2023 No.15493149 File: 59 KB, 523x537, asfg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493145 They determined that my waifu was too cute in her suit and suppressed all research into it. I will never forgive them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:37:11 2023 No.15493155 >>15493148 why is this astronaut a manlet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:37:46 2023 No.15493156 File: 124 KB, 820x820, eric-berger-dbw1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] squints at you and judges your spaceflight related opinions

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:39:40 2023 No.15493159 File: 61 KB, 692x600, Atlas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493156 SMART reuse should've been done in the 70s instead of going all-in with the shittle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:39:46 2023 No.15493160 >>15493148 we should just give them regular down jackets for insulation. no reason their insulation needs to be pressurized

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:42:10 2023 No.15493163 File: 19 KB, 500x242, 28d92631ff7a4c5a2d75c3d0f775b020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493159 we should have had reusable spaceplanes in the 50s

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:43:17 2023 No.15493164 >>15493149 Wasn't there a problem with having to integrate a pressurized helmet with the rest of the suit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:50:42 2023 No.15493169 >>15493164 IIRC the problem was getting enough pressure in the joints, but it's safe to say the project is completely dead at this point.

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:51:01 2023 No.15493170

>>15493141
S29 got stacked, B11 got stacked, SpaceX announced they're sending up VASTs Haven-1 space station in late 2025 making it the first commercial space station if if does get up there then, a bunch of boring launches, and recently one of VASTs subsidiaries, Launcher, is sending up an orbital tug on a ride share mission this month the twelfth. On the same mission, the first 0G orbital factory by Varda is also being sent up. A bunch of weird cutouts at Starbase that look like theyre for hot staging, might be a variation on the expendable starship OR an HLS part. Starbase also is already putting in the water cooled steel plate, S25 is at the launch pad (SpaceX announced which ships are flying so S25 and B9). An Axiom completted their Ax-2 commercial flight to the ISS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:51:31 2023 No.15493171 File: 96 KB, 1242x1394, 25bd8b7f6e57cdfd17747b25d753b2ce.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15492949 Move the bigbang 600M years back

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:53:47 2023 No.15493174 File: 213 KB, 1000x668, 1577958267407.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493142 BOING!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:54:59 2023 No.15493175 >>15493169 maybe people will care again when there are more than 20 people in space

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:57:15 2023 No.15493180 >>15493170 I'm surprised that VAST might beat Axiom, the latter has had space station hardware for years at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:57:23 2023 No.15493181 >>15493174 >Help, I'm being oppressed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:59:46 2023 No.15493183 File: 188 KB, 1500x510, Pride-hero-1500x511.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493174 >misses the ISS >botches service module separation >forgets a parachute >goes billions in the red to do what SpaceX has done like 10 times by now

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 14:59:47 2023 No.15493184

>>15493170
>>15493170

depending on what you mean by few weeks, then Blue Origin got selected to be the second HLS lander for artemis 5 in 2029 three weeks ago, Virgin Orbit went bankrupt, Starliner got delayed again due to problems with the parachutes + payload tape, virgin galactic had another suborbital flight with employees

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:01:31 2023 No.15493185 >>15493169 Shame. I was really looking forward to slim non-awkward-looking spacesuits.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:02:31 2023 No.15493188 File: 90 KB, 1033x480, 1632930742714.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493183

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:06:03 2023 No.15493196 >>15493188 Boing was going to suck regardless of who they support. Their management is that fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:07:04 2023 No.15493197 File: 5 KB, 225x225, cat_closeup.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493194 >you'll cowards

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:07:45 2023 No.15493198 File: 236 KB, 568x568, 1628004375237.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493194

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:08:09 2023 No.15493200 File: 51 KB, 640x960, a6cbeed9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493197

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:11:04 2023 No.15493203 File: 613 KB, 1080x1080, blilu6q0635b1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXMasterrace/comments/145ls3m/im_telling_you_lockmart_are_cooking_something/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:13:03 2023 No.15493208 >>15493203 https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/eo/photo/webt/Mars-Base-Camp-2028.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:15:37 2023 No.15493209 File: 64 KB, 453x604, 1574195164331.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493203 >lockmart_are_cooking_something meth?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:17:22 2023 No.15493213 File: 10 KB, 225x225, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493197 nigga

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:18:25 2023 No.15493215 >>15493198 what a classic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:23:36 2023 No.15493219 File: 124 KB, 960x640, IMG_8441.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493174 >>15493183 >ah yes it’s the rainbow shirts that are causing problems at Boeing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:26:53 2023 No.15493220 >>15493219 no, it's the bureaucracy and accountants

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:34:31 2023 No.15493226 >>15493170 >no mention of vulcan FRF or the nork rocket spacex stan

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:35:45 2023 No.15493228

>>15493020
>but what if the demand is absolutely massive + more?

Without Starship reaching F9 cadence, that statement is impossible; as its cost prohibitive to reach that upmass volume without it. In essence, you're putting the kart before the horse with that question and logically that doesn't make sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:42:25 2023 No.15493230 >>15493220 This. They'll hire engineers with the wrong degrees for their job simply because they could be talked into taking a lower salary.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:45:54 2023 No.15493234 File: 43 KB, 667x556, 003930.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1667555583593963520

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:47:04 2023 No.15493235
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>>15493087
>it is the forty-first Millennium.
>For more than a hundred centuries the SLS has sat immobile on the Launch Pad of Cape Canaveral.
>NASA claims it will be ready next year

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:47:57 2023 No.15493237 >>15493234 which of Buzz, David, Charlie, and Harrison are in the best shape? We need to send them back

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:49:09 2023 No.15493238 I forgot Harrison's nickname for a moment there, but we all call him "Jack" that's important

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 15:58:29 2023 No.15493242 >>15493234 the moon should be like Antarctica. dozens of permanently staffed research bases and even more seasonally staffed ones. random universities should have research bases. it should be mundane

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:04:04 2023 No.15493246 >>15493102 women... they just aren't people

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:07:20 2023 No.15493250 >>15493174 Kinda cool, pride celebration?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:14:10 2023 No.15493255 >>15493226 Should I start mentioning ISRO and ARCA now too? Maybe updates on the Zambian space program or some random nigger on the side of the road next to the Starbase sign?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:19:09 2023 No.15493260 >>15493142 Horrible shop

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:20:46 2023 No.15493261 File: 2.76 MB, 1600x2109, blue catgirl spaceforce.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493242 The Space Force should have a lunar defense grid to chase out or destroy any Chinese spacecraft that attempt a landing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:42:38 2023 No.15493279 >>15493141 dumb birb needs qr code on her chicks' mouths to find them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:43:39 2023 No.15493282 >>15493149 wassup spacesuit weirdo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:48:24 2023 No.15493291 File: 346 KB, 1079x1003, Screenshot_20230610_094804_Firefox.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hello, based department?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:52:06 2023 No.15493295 File: 119 KB, 768x1024, 1666261780637239.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493291 pretty based ngl

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:55:12 2023 No.15493299 File: 42 KB, 321x637, 003932.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493243 orbital tank farm repairs, I think this tank was for water

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:57:51 2023 No.15493303 File: 178 KB, 552x697, 003933.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493243 Ship 29 final major weld

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 16:59:38 2023 No.15493306 File: 34 KB, 640x640, 1659730214238586.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are you ready for the biggest paradigm shift in the history of physics?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:02:05 2023 No.15493309 File: 896 KB, 1000x1426, treasure-planet-5433e352b70a4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493306 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:02:07 2023 No.15493310 >>15493306 it doesn't even matter if it works by breaking physics. propellantless thrust well in excess of photon rockets by swimming through the magnetosphere is groundbreaking enough

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:03:58 2023 No.15493314 >>15493306 This guy has a beautiful wife and well-behaved kids. What's your excuse?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:04:01 2023 No.15493315 >>15493306 >memetech stop

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:09:22 2023 No.15493323

>>15493310
The only way I'll be disappointed is if the drive doesn't work at all.
>doesn't work: stuck with gay shit reaction drives, Tsiolkovsky's tyrannical reign continues
>works with magnetosphere: pairs perfectly with plasma magnet sails for interplanetary work
>works with QI: we /interstellar/ now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:10:35 2023 No.15493324 >>15493306 Can I get a QRD? Isn't NASA currently doing an experiment with this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:17:23 2023 No.15493342 >>15493324 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnNKC82wUmY https://www.universetoday.com/160516/the-first-all-electrical-thruster-the-ivo-quantum-drive-is-headed-to-space/

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:18:42 2023 No.15493347

>>15493324
>Can I get a QRD?
Inertia is caused by frame-dependent light (unruh radiation) intensifying with acceleration. Using pulses of fast electron acceleration between capacitors this effect can be magnified to create thrust without expelling propellant. It's not magic because you're still limited by the mass of the power system like any electric rocket and the specific thrust is on the order of 0.01-0.1N/We.
>Isn't NASA currently doing an experiment with this?
No. DARPA was funding his work for a while and now commercialization has started.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:20:27 2023 No.15493353 but I've heard that they weren't able to confirm his drive in a experiment, and that the explanation on how it works is a bit dubious from a theoretical perspective

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:24:08 2023 No.15493364 >>15493353 it's total horseshit and now that it's in space we can either prove or disprove all of it at once

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:24:14 2023 No.15493365
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>>15493353
The failed replication by Tajmar was due to experimental setup failure. Another group not only confirmed the effect but improved upon the original designs to become the basis of this flight test. See attached PDF.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:26:54 2023 No.15493371 Ted died anons...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:27:32 2023 No.15493373 >>15493364 [pop_science.jpg] You know how it will go... it will give inconclusive results, or it will fail to work at all, then all the True Believers will say it hasn't been disproven and continue to talk like it'll give us torch drives in ten years.

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:27:45 2023 No.15493374
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>>15493250
>ywn have a fellow spacenerd bf to look at the night sky with
>ywn see his flustered face when you compare the stars to his eyes
>ywn debate rocket engine types with him for hours
>ywn have him hug you out of excitement when starship finally reaches orbit
>ywn make jokes about boing with him and hear his stupid but adorable laugh
It's not fair, gayspacebros.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:27:49 2023 No.15493375 >>15493371 Good. That doomer retard was the ultimate mudfoot Earther.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:28:16 2023 No.15493377 >>15493371 I am aware very sad

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:29:10 2023 No.15493378

>>15493353
well idk about dubious, its completely against the current paradigm in physics which means not a lot of people are even going to bother to investigate it much
If I remember correctly, replication efforts have failed but McCulloch has said this is due to interference from the magnetic field or something
I guess we will see

It could be that this thing actually works and is propellantless but the explanation for why it works is not correct
a completely reactionless drive would be something completely different and this is what its supposed to be, but propellantless drives exist theoretically within physics with no problem whatsoever, such as solar sails (sunlight or photons emitted by the sun) and plasma magnet sails which gets momentum from the solar wind (charged particles blown out by the sun)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:29:17 2023 No.15493380 >>15493375 he was right about the problem and wrong about the solution

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:30:28 2023 No.15493385 >>15493371 it got filled with women and minorities talking about absolute bullshit and people lost interest

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:30:41 2023 No.15493386 File: 101 KB, 729x720, 1605101447361.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493371 Who?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:31:13 2023 No.15493388 >>15493380 He was right about both he just didn't have enough violence

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:31:29 2023 No.15493389 File: 46 KB, 474x361, kharagosh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493243 Hop when?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:31:58 2023 No.15493393 >>15493388 yes, he should have tried to gather more violence first

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:32:42 2023 No.15493394 File: 169 KB, 481x568, Starhopper_Awakens.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493371 sfig lives

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:32:54 2023 No.15493396 >>15493389 two months

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:33:06 2023 No.15493397 >>15493385 Grow up

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:34:27 2023 No.15493399 >>15493394 At what cost though?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:35:05 2023 No.15493400 >>15493374 that sounds pretty gay dude

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:36:08 2023 No.15493404
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Pathetic chodelet rockets can't do this. TOTAL SX DOMINATION
>Unveiling the secrets of blue jets: SpaceX launches payload that will study electrifying phenomena above thunderstorms
>SpaceX’s CRS-28 mission to the ISS launched this past Monday included an ESA payload called Thor-Davis, whose main purpose is to study electrical activity occurring above thunderstorms. Thor-Davis will focus on studying the inception and frequency of blue jets, a recently-discovered phenomena seen above storm clouds that sends a column of blue light firing roughly 30 miles into space for a few milliseconds.
>Improving our understanding of blue jets and other upward-directed lightning events is important because they have the potential to disrupt radio waves essential for communication, influence the distribution of greenhouse gasses within Earth's ozone layer, facilitate more precise weather predictions, and aid in understanding climate change.
>The International Space Station serves as the perfect vantage point for monitoring electrical activity above thunderclouds. Unlike geosynchronous satellites, the ISS is much closer to these phenomena, and its orbital path enables world-wide coverage of storms.
>#SpaceStationSaturday

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:36:36 2023 No.15493405 >>15493373 >pop science you literally described the state of ALL science

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:37:13 2023 No.15493406 >>15493397 its true

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:38:05 2023 No.15493408 >>15493400 Very, but in space no one can hear you kiss men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:38:16 2023 No.15493409 File: 76 KB, 651x672, 003934.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1667562785126092801

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:38:29 2023 No.15493410 >>15493371 Right after the Tim Apple ProVision announcement... Rest in peace

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:38:57 2023 No.15493412 still waiting, they should start shipping some time after this month.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:40:02 2023 No.15493413 File: 186 KB, 588x863, IMG_2125.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493412 >forgot image im a horrible poster

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:43:26 2023 No.15493417 File: 161 KB, 1200x918, 1682780952230458.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493404 We need more stations in LEO, preferably ones that spin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:44:12 2023 No.15493420 File: 199 KB, 2736x1824, lewdship.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493413 >not a starship fleshlight disappointed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:44:46 2023 No.15493423 >>15493417 Vast has got you covered (but only for habitation because whats the point of 1G when Urf exists)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:47:58 2023 No.15493428 >>15493420 ffffuuuuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:50:44 2023 No.15493433 >>15493417 If that was spinning, those EVA losers would be tossed right off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:54:58 2023 No.15493441 >>15493433 They're assembling a station that will later spin up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 17:58:01 2023 No.15493445 >>15493433 Shouldn't be that hard to slow it down when it needs maintenance

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:08:40 2023 No.15493463 File: 2.44 MB, 3107x4096, 1682796779675747.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493420 Where's my custom OLM bidet shitter

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:13:31 2023 No.15493474 File: 83 KB, 639x518, shuttle consequences.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493371 F to a real one

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:15:55 2023 No.15493481 File: 44 KB, 547x460, free momentum.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493378 >solar sails (sunlight or photons emitted by the sun) and plasma magnet sails which gets momentum from the solar wind (charged particles blown out by the sun)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:19:24 2023 No.15493488 File: 112 KB, 959x740, SPACE STATION WITH ION ROCKET SHIP IN ORBIT ABOVE ANTARCTICA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493417 >LEO No, polar MEO

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:21:24 2023 No.15493493

>>15493378
It's actually supposed to be a form of photon sail on the assumption that Unruh radiation (photons of frame dependent wavelength) are the cause of inertia, and using electron acceleration to amplify the energy transfer from those photons. It's not FTL and it still requires input energy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:39:15 2023 No.15493525 File: 39 KB, 321x442, 1590674406620.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wait, it's for real? I thought he died a couple of years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:41:33 2023 No.15493528 >>15493525 nelson mandela died in prison in the 90s. I remember reading about it in the news paper

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:54:50 2023 No.15493563 >>15493102 Nakadashi >>15493149 Double nakadashi

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 18:56:58 2023 No.15493569
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Are there any good YouTube videos/series discussing realistic space warfare?
>inb4 just watch ChOADE videos
They just seem to be hours of people autistically fiddling with sliders to make slightly better nukes. I want to see discussions on the strategy and theory of fighting in orbit of another body. Atomic Rockets is fairly surface level, and most (government) research I've found focuses on surface-to-LEO.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 19:31:50 2023 No.15493632 https://twitter.com/zebulgar/status/1667557401627885568 First space factory in the world?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 19:33:24 2023 No.15493639 >>15493569 No. You've hit on both of the approaches. Even for regular warfare involving nukes everyone is tight lipped and the "nuclear winter" models are dogshit. The us (the only true nuclear power) will never ever reveal its doctrine.

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 19:58:36 2023 No.15493683
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Really hoping Launcher succeeds in this mission, their first mission SN1 failed and were shortly after acquired. If they are able to succeed this time around it would be a good sign, especially since they would now have more funding.
Also I just saw picrel pop up, FUCK OFF YOU ANNOYING E*RTHER NIGGER ACTIVISTS SPACE DOES NOT NEED MORE REGULATIONS AS IT IS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:00:00 2023 No.15493687 >FAA: Nooo you can't just go to Mars uhhh because you didn't kow tow to Biden

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:00:10 2023 No.15493688 >>15493683 The only regulation we need is keeping anything launched from Russia, Kazakhstan, or China reaching orbit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:01:20 2023 No.15493691 >>15493688 Good news! Russia is doing that themselves by destroying their once renowned space program! China is less optimistic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:07:57 2023 No.15493705 >>15493683 A Federal Spaceflight Administration should be formed with young blood and forward thinkers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:08:50 2023 No.15493708 >>15493365 This will almost certainly be a "failed replication" too, you know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:09:57 2023 No.15493710 >>15493705 *lazy shits who rubberstamp everything except oldspace because fuck oldspace

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:14:55 2023 No.15493724 >>15492822 there's only one way to explore females vaginas and thats with money and space money is big :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:17:06 2023 No.15493731 File: 273 KB, 2737x1655, eb79u3w0c85b1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXMasterrace/comments/1466ntv/update_thrust_versus_efficiency_of_all_orbital/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:21:00 2023 No.15493740 >>15493710 Boeingsisters.... its over

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:36:20 2023 No.15493772
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>>15493632
Yes, Varda is launching a space capsule on transponder 8 that is capable of manufacturing pharmaceuticals for commercial clients. It is the first commercial space factory ever

https://varda.com/applications/

/sfg/ should be hyped as fuck about this. This is more interesting than launch startup #9174829202

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:38:56 2023 No.15493778 >>15493772 I'm cautiously optimistic does not really seem that scalable

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 20:44:16 2023 No.15493789 File: 1.04 MB, 500x219, 1680761483777795.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493772 It's only a model.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 21:28:51 2023 No.15493837 >>15493170 they're not hot staging, its a ss:booster les

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 21:38:59 2023 No.15493844 File: 1.14 MB, 1920x901, 14-32-43.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg Methane tanks getting installed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 21:40:39 2023 No.15493845 >>15493772 So many people are hyped about this, but I need to see the revenue to believe it. I don't know what about a tiny autonomous capsule in space makes it so good for pharma.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 21:41:56 2023 No.15493848 >>15493845 if it makes a life saving medicine that there is no other way to manufacture, you can sell it for whatever you damn well please to turn a profit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 21:43:31 2023 No.15493849 >>15493688 Go back to /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 21:47:05 2023 No.15493855 >>15493849 ching chong ping pong get out of my orbit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 21:54:12 2023 No.15493865 >>15493844 >Methane tanks getting installed First tank was installed at the water deluge system. I don't think that's a methane tank.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 22:16:33 2023 No.15493887 >>15493306 when is the experiment actually being run, and how long after until we have a confirm / deny / "needs further study" (deny)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 22:21:39 2023 No.15493890 >>15493209 damn i bet that trampoline would survive starship lunch

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 22:25:19 2023 No.15493894 File: 53 KB, 548x547, photo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493772 love the name

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 22:27:00 2023 No.15493898 >>15493894 > Queen of the Stars https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Varda

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 22:35:43 2023 No.15493910 File: 109 KB, 476x576, Tolkien astro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493894 >>15493898

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 22:45:12 2023 No.15493929 >>15493691 How has Russia destroyed their space program?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:12:24 2023 No.15493961 >>15493929 By making themselves a pariah and losing all their commercial launches.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:13:37 2023 No.15493963 File: 613 KB, 1080x1080, FyOKj0tXoAAfIpd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The tanker for Blue Moon will be an NTP craft.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:17:40 2023 No.15493970 >>15493963 still less ambitious than HLS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:18:25 2023 No.15493971 >>15493970 Blue Moon is an HLS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:20:00 2023 No.15493974 >>15493203 I mean I understand NASA wants orbital ship-building capabilty, but they are really thinking big.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:20:17 2023 No.15493975 File: 19 KB, 428x368, 1670866587282014.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493772 Yeah, can't wait for the new space vaccine*

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:22:05 2023 No.15493980 >>15493849 It sounds more like /uhg/ talk than /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:25:14 2023 No.15493986 >>15493731 Why no BE-4 reddit fag?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:27:00 2023 No.15493990 >>15493865 Why would they need what I'm guessing are certified tanks for water? Can't they make those themselves?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:27:28 2023 No.15493992 >>15493986 There are no public numbers for the BE-4.

Anonymous Sat Jun 10 23:39:33 2023 No.15494008

>>15493990
Any given water deluge system needs to push out large volumes of water very quickly. There are three ways they can go about this:
>Force the water out with high pressure pumps
>Generate a large pressure head with a gravity fed tower
>Use another gas or fluid to push the water out
Going by the array of high pressure cylinders SpaceX has been putting in, they're going to use high pressure gas to force water through the deluge system.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:07:38 2023 No.15494048 >>15493961 This, and scaring off all their talent/throwing them into the ukrowar while putting less and less funding in to their entire space scene.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:08:55 2023 No.15494051 >>15494048 >talent/throwing them into the ukrowar Wow I didn't know the prison population was their future rocket scientists

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:17:35 2023 No.15494065 >>15493155 Astronauts are manlets.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:21:40 2023 No.15494071 >>15494051 They're running a Uranus PMC specifically with Roscosmos workers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:25:28 2023 No.15494078 >>15493961 They still have close ties with India, China, etc. They're a "pariah" to the western world yes, but not for the east or the global south (although the global south is pretty irrelevant)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:33:30 2023 No.15494085 File: 346 KB, 1680x1050, 604585-1379993636.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493910 Never knew Tolkien was an astrofag

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:41:12 2023 No.15494095

>>15494078
India and China have their own launch infrastructure and have little reason to work closely with Russia. And "close" is an exaggeration, especially for India who is mostly just trying to stay neutral. Getting on the US shitlist is enough to deter most other countries from choosing Russian launches, even if they'd otherwise be so inclined.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:45:06 2023 No.15494098 >>15494085 he was a language and mythology geek, and every culture comes up with names and myths around the prominent stars and planets, so he did for the Middle Earth mythos too. In some cases, many names for the different cultures in the world.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 00:59:36 2023 No.15494121 >>15494071 /pol/cels will ignore this.

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:01:30 2023 No.15494125

>>15493961
But that doesn’t really stop their space program it just changes it’s goals from trying to make money to instead doing the bidding of the state and it’s needs or desires though I’m sure they will still get paid orders from nations that can’t really use the US.

I doubt they will be getting much attention though for the time being as I suspect Russia will be putting any excess money it has towards it’s military and the supporting industries rather than space unless it’s military satellites. When the war does finally end then they might start putting more into it if only to prevent themselves from being left behind when man eventually heads to the moon and mars permanently.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:03:32 2023 No.15494129 >>15494078 >list of Indian or Chinese payloads on Russian rockets >end list

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:05:25 2023 No.15494132

>>15494071
Somehow I doubt this PMC is for frontline fighting in a large scale conventional war. More likely it’s purpose is guarding Roscosmos sites and related locations in Russia or Kazakhstan.

This is assuming it’s real and not just retards calling a normal security company a PMC.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:05:27 2023 No.15494133 >>15494071 Proofs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:09:58 2023 No.15494139 >>15494125 Roscosmos was already woefully underfunded even with the commercial funding it was able to generate. Look at how long it has taken to get Angara flying, their first post Soviet rocket.

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:10:54 2023 No.15494143

>>15494132
>>15494133
https://english.sawtbeirut.com/world/roscosmos-created-its-own-uranus-pmc-which-will-become-a-source-of-hybrid-threat-for-europe/
https://www.better-governance.org/home/index.php/news/entry/roscosmos-creates-new-pmc-uran
[shitpost but it mirrors the recruitment video]
https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/13qoli1/if_uranus_was_a_pmc_would_you_hit_it/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:17:21 2023 No.15494150 >>15494143 >reddit link >two western news outlets copy pasting each other's articles with no sources Based Langley poster, I'm sure they are drafting rocket scientists into bakhmut. Thank you for my daily dose of propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:18:08 2023 No.15494151 Alien crafts yet sfg is dead

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:21:51 2023 No.15494155

>>15494139
Yeah and now it’s been nationalised and turned into the newest state corporation with apparently it’s main goal currently being the removal of unnecessary employees and a streamlining of their operations to reduce the amount of money that so often gets squandered or embezzled.

This is one of those few cases where nationalising something will probably be for the best as Roscosmos has been famous for it’s corruption and incompetence so I can’t imagine it getting worse given that their government is probably taking things a lot more serious these days.

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:25:45 2023 No.15494159

>>15494143
I don’t mean to insult you but if you wanted to help the argument that this stuff is real then the links provided are not helping. And please don’t ever use reddit as a source if you intend to be taken seriously. I get disgusted just knowing that place exists and the retards on there continue breathing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:29:37 2023 No.15494164 >>15494155 >their government is probably taking things a lot more serious yeah, but spaceflight is not one of those things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:29:45 2023 No.15494165 >>15494143 Kill yourself nafo tranny

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:38:28 2023 No.15494174 File: 74 KB, 532x350, spacesuit_poses.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15493145 Speak for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:39:22 2023 No.15494178 >>15494164 I meant rooting out corruption and inefficiency as the good times are over and Russia has entered the hard times once again and if history is anything to go on they can be very capable when the situation becomes dire.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:42:38 2023 No.15494182 >>15494165 >being against the Near-Arean Treaty Organization die filthy terran

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:42:59 2023 No.15494185 >>15494178 Having a space program during a "hard time" is an inefficiency. The only practical benefits take years and decades to bear meaningful returns; they'll gut every program not related to maintaining spy/comms satellites.

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 01:54:48 2023 No.15494193

>>15494185
Putting satellites in orbit requires rockets and the better the rocket the bigger and better the satellite you can put up. So when the war is over Russia will have a much leaner launch infrastructure already in place for when they begin to focus more on civilian space aspirations.

I won’t expect anything interesting for a few years but the more presence the US has in space the more it will put pressure on Russia to pick their shit up and get up there as well.

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 02:08:16 2023 No.15494210

>>15494193
>Putting satellites in orbit requires rockets and the better the rocket the bigger and better the satellite you can put up
and building newer and better rockets is expensive and it's more cost effective to build missiles when your main goal is winning. Their economy is roughly the size of Italy's and the Ukraine war is probably going to drag on for most of this decade. Russia has been coasting off of their Soviet technology and knowledge base for the past 30 years, and quite simply that's not going to be sustainable. A more efficient Ruscosmos is certainly better for Russia, and they might put together a few decent missions once everything settles down, but they're in no position to compete with the US going forward.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 02:27:36 2023 No.15494223 File: 34 KB, 467x350, fry suspiccious.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15494174 >leg mobility >actually goose stepping while giving hitler salute >while wearing a space suit wait a minute

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 02:35:00 2023 No.15494226 how many sats on transporter 8?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 02:38:05 2023 No.15494228 6 days until the end of Ariane 5

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 02:40:30 2023 No.15494229 >>15494226 72 https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=transporter-8

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 03:06:32 2023 No.15494243 >>15494229 that's like 12 electrons worth lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 03:15:46 2023 No.15494252 >>15494243 for only 8.9 times the cost of electron

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 03:43:15 2023 No.15494274 File: 858 KB, 1668x1136, IMG_1054.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Firefly is working on a Falcon 9 competitor https://fireflyspace.com/mlv/ Too little too late?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 03:45:40 2023 No.15494278 >>15494274 An Antares replacement is not an F9 competitor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 03:51:56 2023 No.15494285 >>15494278 Its a medium lift rocket, roughly 6k kg less payload to LEO than Falcon 9

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 03:56:44 2023 No.15494294 >>15494285 6000kg less is 1/4 of a Falcon 9's payload capability

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 03:59:43 2023 No.15494299

>>15494274
that render with the nasty incandescent plume and all the smoke makes it look like an SRB
It's not a fucking SRB is it? Didn't firefly get bought out by Northrop (as in the literal largest solid rocket motor manufacturer in the US, that is not coincidentally making the SLS boosters)? yes, I could look it up; but a) I'm lazy and b) it's funnier to imagine oldspace buying out a bright-eyed startup and immediately regressing them to 1950s era technology

even if it is a fully reusable liquid fuel rocket it's still DoA for anything other than designated "not spacex" contracts assuming starship delivers on even 20% of its claimed performance

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 04:01:39 2023 No.15494301 >>15494299 That's true economically but companies still need to get first stage reuse nailed down before they can build a Starship clone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 04:03:12 2023 No.15494303 >>15494299 Yes the artist does not know what rocket exhaust looks like.

5'10 245lbs mountain of a man Sun Jun 11 04:23:16 2023 No.15494325 [DELETED]

I am extremely attractive to women. I'm over six feet tall, and am built enough to intimidate most men. My insignia is only for humor. However; I will never apologize for being openly gay. I can't even post boring launch updates in this thread without being called a "cum slurping fatgot"...
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(Instigate agent against site users at point (+))
And I bet all you guys don't even own a telescope.
(Relate to the site users without outing yourself)(+)
I just only hope we all get to experience multi-planet human civilization. If I could support anyrhing, that would be it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 04:40:55 2023 No.15494338 File: 16 KB, 372x372, 1660319882106579.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] space force as an anchor tenant for a commercial space station

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 04:41:50 2023 No.15494339 i burned my mouth and lips with sizzle steak :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 05:27:46 2023 No.15494393 starship

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 06:55:27 2023 No.15494479 >>15494274 A Falcon 9 competitor would be too late to the party if it launched yesterday

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:04:25 2023 No.15494483 damn /sfg/ is really dead today

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:06:49 2023 No.15494484 >>15494483 I'm waiting for OFT-2 and I don't have anything to say.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:11:04 2023 No.15494495 >>15494483 Waiting for schizodrive launch

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:12:15 2023 No.15494497 >>15494483 This happens every weekend, nigga.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:24:12 2023 No.15494506 >>15494274 So does SpaceX.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:32:51 2023 No.15494514 File: 580 KB, 2114x1325, 1681830983973366.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ILRS update...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:33:58 2023 No.15494516 File: 2.32 MB, 3640x4096, 1667862865366683.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15494514

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:35:03 2023 No.15494517 File: 1.08 MB, 2427x4096, 1681707771705066.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15494516

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 07:36:42 2023 No.15494520
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>>15494517
no countries seem to have joined the project...china said they would announce in may the countries that have joined the ILRS but the date passed without any announcement. now this new update happens and the announcement has been delayed to NET october.

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 09:03:58 2023 No.15494612
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>>15494516
before something actually happens these are just powerpoint presentations and even if they do, 10-15 years away is so far away the plans will change multiples times between now and when they actually get some humans down on the moon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 09:05:53 2023 No.15494616 so many reusable booster designs yet we've only ever seen one fly and land.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 10:04:49 2023 No.15494663 Uncle ted found ded Sadge

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 10:16:07 2023 No.15494669 >>15494663 he found out about tiktok

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 10:18:13 2023 No.15494673 ted died days after international killdozer day

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 10:43:20 2023 No.15494700 File: 86 KB, 991x144, cant make this shit up.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >guy who shits on starship at every opportunity he gets oooh i see now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 11:11:00 2023 No.15494727 >>15494663 Yeah but at least he bought his farm before the AI nightmare I have no mouth and must scream timeline was in full swing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 11:54:58 2023 No.15494775 >>15494338 Space PMCs, like in the good old days after the Kessler Event.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:06:19 2023 No.15494796 What was it like for the Apollo 1 crew to undergo combustion?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:08:13 2023 No.15494802 >>15494796 It was extremely painful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:12:50 2023 No.15494811 >>15494802 for you (also them)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:15:42 2023 No.15494815 >>15494796 When will we get some more spaceflight death kino?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:24:49 2023 No.15494838 File: 139 KB, 1499x1596, fts chuddie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15494815 2 more weeks

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:24:56 2023 No.15494839 File: 232 KB, 1536x2048, 1684215651588836.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15494303

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:27:23 2023 No.15494845 >>15494663 So how's the weather on Titan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:30:12 2023 No.15494852 >>15494839 why is there a big plume during ignition? The Gas condensing or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:31:36 2023 No.15494855 >>15494727 Really Ted didn't mention AI and his writings are prescient or that interesting

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:33:12 2023 No.15494858 >>15492746 my professional contacts from Varda and Starfish have been posting this picture highlighting where their payloads are on their twitter and LI all week

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:35:14 2023 No.15494866

>>15492895
Relativity is doomed anyway
>we 3D proonted the entire rocket
>ah he he, turns out that doesn't fucking matter and it really slow and expensive, we'll just go back to using sheet metal for rocket bodies
I kind of feel like Tim Ellis is just a mediocre engineer who's in way over his head

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:35:52 2023 No.15494868 >>15494866 Can't deny that it was a successful way of attracting venture capital.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:37:08 2023 No.15494872 >>15494866 >ah he he, turns out that doesn't fucking matter and it really slow and expensive, SFG saw the writing on the wall for a long ass time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:38:00 2023 No.15494874 File: 1.10 MB, 1709x907, zume_zume.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15494868 I can't, but that's because venture capitalists are very, very stupid people.

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:43:36 2023 No.15494881

>>15494874
VC unironically have me convinced that magic is real. You just got to say the right things, perform the correct rites, and manifest your intention; and almost without fail they will be asking what bank you'd like them to route 100 million dollars to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:48:59 2023 No.15494891 >>15494274 This is the third time this has been posted in the last couple days, read

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 12:49:37 2023 No.15494892

>>15494874
Of course the execs of that robot pizza company nobody ever heard of got paid well.
>>15494881
Some of the reason for VC is you've got more money than can efficiently just be stored somewhere, so why not try to take a gamble on a company that might make it?
The problem is that most VCs are indeed stupid and will fall for the right buzzwords and hopium. Their brains are addled from too much Hollywood movies, to them Gravity is a perfectly sensible representation of orbital mechanics.
The banks were kind of doing this too, happily loaning money at near zero interest rates, but they were first in line to get paid back once the company collapsed. Now that firehose is shut off with interest rates no longer stupidly low.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 13:10:00 2023 No.15494927 >>15494775 that reminds me. i was reading about space force people complaining that there isnt a space force reserve and they want one but congress refuses to give them one. maybe space pmcs could fill the void.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 13:22:54 2023 No.15494947 File: 1.51 MB, 1555x2151, STA-4 at 0052 Seconds by Ren Wicks, 1982 shuttle launch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 13:44:14 2023 No.15494983 File: 572 KB, 667x477, 003941.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/TimcastNews/status/1667647523815673865

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 13:46:34 2023 No.15494988 File: 3.96 MB, 1811x992, 003942.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15494983

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 13:54:38 2023 No.15494998 imagine jessi going topless to the pride parade

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:06:29 2023 No.15495006

>>15494988
Its a distraction.

>When you observe, as we did, that what’s going on is both very evil and very silly, it sounds almost self-contradictory. How can something be both very silly and very evil at the same time?
>The answer is that what’s going on is very silly, but the silliness is distracting us from very important things. That’s the nature of the evil. Diversity becomes a kind of divertissement, distracting our attention from the things that really matter.
https://newcriterion.com/issues/2023/6/the-diversity-myth

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:07:24 2023 No.15495008 File: 24 KB, 402x504, 55af7b47.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15494998

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:14:22 2023 No.15495014 >>15494727 how is AI related to "I have no mouth and I must scream"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:20:03 2023 No.15495020 >>15495014 read a book sometimes N

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:24:04 2023 No.15495026 File: 83 KB, 500x234, mouth-and-ice-cream-28500775.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:25:23 2023 No.15495030 >>15495020 I know about the book but still don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:31:06 2023 No.15495038 >>15495030 you haven't read the fucking book

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:42:53 2023 No.15495049 File: 254 KB, 614x1003, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Space is (making me) hard Elon confirmed for /sfg/ enjoyer https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1182484550292779015

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:44:17 2023 No.15495051 >>15495049 lmao the replies. People can't take a joke.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:50:38 2023 No.15495056 >>15495051 Elon triggering the reeeeeeeeeetards again, all is right with the universe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:53:18 2023 No.15495059 File: 237 KB, 1158x648, how so.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495014

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:54:22 2023 No.15495061 >>15495049 LMAO. ITS OVER! Musk getting cancelled for real.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:56:23 2023 No.15495065 >>15495059 it actually leaves out the most important detail lmao, namely where the name of the book comes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:58:09 2023 No.15495068 >>15495049 >age restricted content

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:58:25 2023 No.15495070 File: 53 KB, 1148x379, is that so.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495065

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 14:59:35 2023 No.15495073 File: 728 KB, 658x703, 003943.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/CJHandmer/status/1667906612915494912

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:07:33 2023 No.15495087 >>15495070 that explanation is wrong, completely hallucinated

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:07:39 2023 No.15495088 >>15495073 good >>15495049 based

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:13:02 2023 No.15495096 >>15495087 If we have people who haven't read the book claim they have read the book, and dont know what the book is about, and they're not considered to be hallucinating, then surely the AI responses are not hallucinating either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:15:04 2023 No.15495099 >>15495073 Good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:15:27 2023 No.15495101 >>15494520 Everyone understands that joining China in space is forswearing access to American launchers and space infrastructure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:21:56 2023 No.15495107 >>15495096 that makes no sense hallucinating with respect to AIs refers to a specific thing they do, it doesn't matter what humans do at all in this case

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:24:22 2023 No.15495112 >>15495073 >launch startup the future is in re-usable second stage startups

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:25:16 2023 No.15495114 File: 13 KB, 985x117, 003944.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4042735-is-it-time-to-cancel-the-boeing-starliner/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:28:09 2023 No.15495118 >>15495114 does nasa even have a say? is nasa even losing money on it? i thought boeing was the one getting fucked here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:29:02 2023 No.15495121 >>15495114 No point, the longer it goes the more money Boeing burns. It's for the better to let the program run for as long as possible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:29:02 2023 No.15495120 >>15495107 AI mimics human intelligence. Thats what it is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:39:34 2023 No.15495125 >>15495120 wrong

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 15:42:24 2023 No.15495130
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>>15495073
Every time drilling for hydrogen gets closer to reality Handmers gay soilar startup dies
https://www.science.org/content/article/hidden-hydrogen-earth-may-hold-vast-stores-renewable-carbon-free-fuel

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 16:07:13 2023 No.15495146 File: 1.82 MB, 1291x821, 003945.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDb-u3XCVsY

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 16:26:05 2023 No.15495170 >>15495114 still a good idea to have a backup

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 16:28:47 2023 No.15495173 >>15495112 reminder that stoke is a smallsat launch startup

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 16:35:06 2023 No.15495185 >>15495070 While AM was dictating their reality, it was not VR. He was simply controlling every variable of the world they were in, a transformed earth, a molested earth. However, it was very much reality

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 16:36:24 2023 No.15495188 >>15494483 the smart people fuck around on /sfg/ at work only real droolers spend time here on the weekends

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 16:50:26 2023 No.15495202 File: 1.82 MB, 1251x714, 003946.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495146

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 16:52:53 2023 No.15495206 >>15495202 Just two months guys

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 16:55:21 2023 No.15495210 what they discovered led elon to cancel the second twitter spaces. it's really bad

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:18:18 2023 No.15495246 >>15495073 Have they tried providing a better product to outcompete spacex?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:38:35 2023 No.15495290 >>15495246 yeah they just SUCK at it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:48:18 2023 No.15495299 File: 344 KB, 1179x1350, IMG_2127.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Reminder

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:53:25 2023 No.15495302 >>15495299 on sale = BUY BUY BUY

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:55:42 2023 No.15495307 >>15495299 it's obviously just a result of perfidious short-sellers. ASTR is an extremely good investment and the company has tremendous upside.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:56:04 2023 No.15495308 File: 44 KB, 655x491, truckCBE4AA71-8790-4741-A526-4A3C733D0007-655x491.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:56:30 2023 No.15495310 HOLY SHIT READ THE FULL WILSON V BOIEING COMPLAINT Boeing made a shitty wilson torque device clone, put a fake wilson sticker on it, flew it on the ISS, lied to the astronauts, and it broke in place

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:57:58 2023 No.15495313 >>15495310 >put a fake wilson sticker on it if this is true that they actually have a case

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 17:58:15 2023 No.15495316 >>15495308 something's missing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WchseC9aKTU

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:07:45 2023 No.15495323 >>15495313 yep

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:23:02 2023 No.15495339 >>15495308 it's a truck and a flatbed towing one of the most advanced rocket engines ever made like it's a piece of plant. boomerspace would take months and millions to arrange this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:24:17 2023 No.15495342 >>15495310 lol that is so retarded

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:28:16 2023 No.15495345 >>15495310 small indie rocket company pls understand

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:31:08 2023 No.15495350 >>15495310 Their lawsuit is rife with inaccuracies and omissions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:35:41 2023 No.15495355 >>15495350 Just like Starliner!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:35:41 2023 No.15495356 >>15495310 nothingburger

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:48:30 2023 No.15495372 and then NASA got mad at wilson even though it wasn't theirs, it was Boeing's

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:50:17 2023 No.15495375 File: 884 KB, 1179x1774, IMG_2129.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lockmart and Boingbros just keep taking Ls...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:52:06 2023 No.15495378 File: 674 KB, 1179x1110, IMG_2130.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495375 Wrong image lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:52:09 2023 No.15495379 >>15495350 >>15495356 thank you B.O.E.I.N.G (boeing online external internet negation group)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:54:48 2023 No.15495384 >>15493102 And then everyone clapped

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 18:55:39 2023 No.15495385 >>15495372 lie

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:02:44 2023 No.15495395 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIntjmbZgWw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:03:55 2023 No.15495398 >>15495395 my favorite reddits are down,NSF coming back just saved me. RIGHT ON

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:05:34 2023 No.15495403 File: 3.47 MB, 3872x2581, 52212249909_67fbff1800_4k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:06:37 2023 No.15495405 Can can all these big government institutions and giant companies get things so wrong when /sfg/ gets them so right?

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:08:59 2023 No.15495408
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>>15495405
/sfg/ anons are either obsessive autistic NEETs or actually work in the industry. It would be surprising if management/bureaucracy was correct more often than /sfg/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:15:42 2023 No.15495420 >>15495395 actually interesting and not annoying

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:19:19 2023 No.15495425 >>15495420 That's because none of the faggot ass new hires are participating. The fatty mexican and the german for example.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:21:01 2023 No.15495428 >>15495425 The Mexican has a shallow understanding of rocketry. People that actually understand rocket engines in detail are very rare

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:31:36 2023 No.15495442 File: 562 KB, 685x341, 1659448214223605.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not sure I'm ready for the AI dystopia

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:35:05 2023 No.15495448 >>15495442 >>>/g/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:38:15 2023 No.15495453 spaceflight is technology sf/g/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:39:28 2023 No.15495455 >>15495453 /g/ is basically about software not general technology

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:46:43 2023 No.15495466 /diy/ is the most technologically inclined board

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 19:54:14 2023 No.15495475 File: 558 KB, 660x684, 003953.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/Ringwatchers/status/1667972349826588673

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:15:09 2023 No.15495502 File: 289 KB, 2184x1144, SN20 forklift.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495308 I'll see your truck and raise you a forklift

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:16:49 2023 No.15495507 File: 579 KB, 1152x2048, Raptor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495502

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:16:52 2023 No.15495508 >>15495502 fails to fire

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:18:15 2023 No.15495510 >>15495508 you just reminded me that Raptor has a long way to go before it becomes mission capable

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:18:22 2023 No.15495511 >>15495455 They still talk about audio equipment and pens and shit. Consumer technology. Anyway /n/ would make the most sense, but only if it were a faster board.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:19:05 2023 No.15495513 File: 391 KB, 2048x1365, SN44.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495507

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:21:51 2023 No.15495519 File: 614 KB, 1477x2345, SN50.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495513

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:23:19 2023 No.15495522 File: 964 KB, 1637x2489, THE KRAKEN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495519

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:28:41 2023 No.15495534 File: 142 KB, 896x598, Philosoraptor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495522

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:29:46 2023 No.15495538 File: 1.04 MB, 3282x2189, Plaid Mode.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495534

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:31:03 2023 No.15495539 >>15495511 not really sure about /n/ as this thread tends to have talk about scientific probes a lot, colonization /sci/ is the most logical board due to there not being a engineering board or STEM board

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:31:13 2023 No.15495540 >>15495522 loved that one

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:34:49 2023 No.15495548 painfully unfunny

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:40:38 2023 No.15495558 >>15495442 As long as I get to keep my AI coombots I don't care.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:46:52 2023 No.15495565 >>15495558 you will have no dick but you'll want to rub one out

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 20:59:23 2023 No.15495587 Other way around, "I have no hands; and I must 'bate"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 21:10:57 2023 No.15495605 >>15495502 >Ackhually That's a telehandler

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 21:20:47 2023 No.15495625 >>15495587 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 21:25:41 2023 No.15495632 >>15495466 what is the least technologically inclined board?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 21:27:15 2023 No.15495633 >>15495170 I think it would still be safer to ground dragon for 6 months than fly on starliner

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 21:31:14 2023 No.15495637 >>15495308 Based a Mexican made truck towing an American engine to a Mexican built rocket

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 22:15:30 2023 No.15495690 >>15494874 >use extremely expensive equipment with very limited capacity to replace minimum wage labor that's available everywhere on demand wonder what went wrong

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 22:24:33 2023 No.15495700 >>15495632 /g/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 22:28:48 2023 No.15495703 File: 44 KB, 1200x798, FvylXqhX0AQWHWh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fartemis is so fucked bros...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 22:31:10 2023 No.15495708 >>15495700 kek true >HELP HOW DO I FIX MY PC GEE

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 22:32:51 2023 No.15495709 >>15495703 jim free should be in jail

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 23:25:41 2023 No.15495776 File: 1004 KB, 2390x1080, 1609872986115.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495633 should have gone with Dream Chaser

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 11 23:57:37 2023 No.15495807 >>15495709 not possible, "free" is literally in his name. He cannot be jimprisoned.

Anonymous Sun Jun 11 23:59:31 2023 No.15495811
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>>15495776
Reminder
>By late December, details had emerged that "a high-ranking agency official"—"William Gerstenmaier, the agency's top human exploration official and the one who made the final decision"—"opted to rank Boeing's proposal higher than a previous panel of agency procurement experts." More specifically, Sierra Nevada asserted in their filings with the GAO that Gerstenmaier may have "overstepped his authority by unilaterally changing the scoring criteria."
>On January 5, 2015, the GAO denied Sierra Nevada's CCtCap challenge, stating that NASA made the proper decision when it decided to award Boeing $4.2 billion and SpaceX $2.6 billion to develop their vehicles. Ralph White, the GAO's managing associate counsel, announced that NASA "recognized Boeing's higher price but also considered Boeing's proposal to be the strongest of all three proposals in terms of technical approach, management approach and past performance, and to offer the crew transportation system with most utility and highest value to the government."

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 00:03:51 2023 No.15495814 remember that time NASA awarded HLS to SpaceX for starship? Going to go down as the greatest nasa decision of all time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 00:09:07 2023 No.15495820 >>15495814 They're going to look pretty dumb, if after complaining about SpaceX not being ready in time, the rest of the Artemis stuff is behind and Starship is dropping Starlinks like crazy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 00:11:05 2023 No.15495821 File: 10 KB, 480x360, irish spring.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495811 >but also considered Boeing's proposal to be the strongest of all three proposals Strong? Aye, and strong smelling!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 00:21:52 2023 No.15495832 >>15495511 /n/ will have a thread in about ten years this is an official prediction, screencap it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 00:37:59 2023 No.15495843 >>15495814 I love how everybody involved in that decision lost their jobs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 00:44:02 2023 No.15495847 artemis 3 should be a gateway-only mission

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 00:47:32 2023 No.15495850 >>15495847 Gateway should be a military station to shoot down anyone approaching the moon who didn't join the Artemis Accords.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 00:57:30 2023 No.15495858 >>15495850 Cringe

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 01:26:33 2023 No.15495871 >>15495850 kys earther, Luna is free for everyone to explore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 01:29:54 2023 No.15495874 >>15495871 death to all chinks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 01:30:08 2023 No.15495875 >>15495850 Gateway should be a spacecraft carrier

Anonymous Mon Jun 12 01:41:33 2023 No.15495886

Im assuming that there would not be any needed thermal shielding for entry in to the Cerian atmosphere right? How could you protect the instruments from the deep space radiation, and I'm also assuming that Ceres doesn't have a magnetosphere, so any mission would need this shielding to last the entire mission.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:15:47 2023 No.15495908 >>15495886 redundancy >> rad hard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:46:31 2023 No.15495929 >page 9 with only 390 posts /sfg/ is dead

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:47:57 2023 No.15495932 Starfield Direct proves Todd howard is god

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:50:45 2023 No.15495933 >>15495874 Can you go two minutes without sperging about chinks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:52:48 2023 No.15495938 >>15495933 just tried it at your request, wouldnt recommend but seriously those commie fuckers should remain in earth's gravity well

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:53:55 2023 No.15495940 >>15495832 eww we're going to get lumped in with the plane and train autists

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:56:00 2023 No.15495941 >>15495886 For the purposes of capture, landing, and launch, there is no Cerian atmosphere

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:56:06 2023 No.15495942 File: 109 KB, 1222x687, china-mars-rover-beams-back-historic-images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15495938 cope

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 02:59:13 2023 No.15495945 >>15495942 i'm not coping, i'm seething, you esl retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:15:24 2023 No.15495959 space subs are going private how will I find content to post here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:18:53 2023 No.15495963 Imagine if my favorite mongolian basket weaving forum were to shut down for 2 days, were would I go to discuss spaceflight in the meantime? nsf? no thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:19:48 2023 No.15495965 This general has gone dark.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:21:33 2023 No.15495968 >>15495963 Most of the old regulars post in the /sfg/ irc instead of here nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:22:20 2023 No.15495969 >>15495968 shhhhhh

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:25:18 2023 No.15495973 >>15495968 I thought they were all hanging around in the official /sfg/ discord server?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:27:48 2023 No.15495978 >>15495973 no we all moved to the /sfg/ reddit, but it's private now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:28:10 2023 No.15495979 /vg/ is the closest to reddit. They should go dark

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:30:28 2023 No.15495981 I can already see Musk tweeting some retard shit about the reddit shutdown instead of launching the fucking rocket

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:36:50 2023 No.15495988 >>15495978 All this is on the pastebin, how did he miss it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 03:57:24 2023 No.15496008 File: 64 KB, 1530x1304, Space station.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] NASA needs to stop with their ISS fetish and get a decent spinhab for lunar excursions

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:02:13 2023 No.15496013 SPACEXLOUNGE NOOOOOOO

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:07:05 2023 No.15496016 >>15496013 r/ShittySpaceXIdeas > r/SpaceXMasterrace > r/SpaceXLounge > r/SpaceX >inb4 go back I literally can't

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:16:19 2023 No.15496019 >>15496013 >>15496016 go back

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:21:37 2023 No.15496022 >>15496008 bro where's the bathroom i gotta go bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:22:13 2023 No.15496023 >>15495942 >a fucking ramp

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:28:49 2023 No.15496028 >>15496019 I can't

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:30:43 2023 No.15496032 >>15496023 ramp >cheap >works >very few moving parts skycrane >that’ll be 3 billion for a robot car please and thank you

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:32:17 2023 No.15496036 >>15496032 ok chang

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:32:27 2023 No.15496037 >>15496032 It's a meme you dip

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:34:49 2023 No.15496041 >>15496032 >cheap >works >very few moving parts It's not that easy in space. Pick one or none.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:37:40 2023 No.15496043 >>15496016 go back dumb fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:38:43 2023 No.15496045 >>15496013 >>15496016 https://twitter.com/i/lists/1418075522672771076

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 04:39:12 2023 No.15496047 >>15496016 You don't have to go back but you do have to leave

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:04:19 2023 No.15496069 >>15496045 cringe

Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:08:38 2023 No.15496077

What are some ways to achieve a landing on Ceres? Low gravity, but you still cant lithobrake. No atmosphere to slow down in either, would you have to slow down over a long time with ion thrusters? Would make the mission there take even longer, if only we had a Mars base by now...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:15:18 2023 No.15496084 >>15496077 you use thrusters, why is that a difficult thing? just launch like 5 starships to it

Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:16:00 2023 No.15496085

Also, what is it that stops us from lithobraking in to the oceans of Titan? I'm probably wrong here, but I thought the reason that it sucks to land in water is because of the high surface tension capacity. If it's much less in liquid methane, couldnt it be a viable way to land to shorten the way there to not have to slow down while traveling? Still could be way too much speed, but it could help no? The thing you want to investigate on Titan is the liquid methane oceans anyways, the craft would have to survive high pressures under there anyways so it may be able to survive a "crash" landing on the top of the ocean

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:19:48 2023 No.15496090 >>15496085 the ocean would be the same as landing on a solid ground - you'd still get cracked

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:25:09 2023 No.15496099 >>15496090 But for what reason? What specific quality makes it the same? Is it surface tension like I said and the force of landing still being way too high or is it some other factor I'm not considering?

Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:30:14 2023 No.15496105

>>15496099
inertia, nigga; at high enough speeds liquids behave like solids regardless of viscosity or surface tension at least partly because of how much velocity you're imparting onto the particles. F=MA, increase A a whole shitton and F gets real big too if M isn't fuckin zero

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:32:13 2023 No.15496109 >>15496105 This is what two months without a physics class does to my brain, I should've known.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:32:17 2023 No.15496110 >>15496022 It's in the spinhab. The waste gets filtered to reprocess water and the rest is shipped to the L5 colony as fertilizer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:37:59 2023 No.15496118 File: 1.27 MB, 1179x1448, IMG_2133.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm nof fully convinced that all of /sfg/ knows JUST how big Starship is. One tile is bigger than this workers head.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 05:44:07 2023 No.15496126 File: 3.00 MB, 3024x4032, bnph.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>15496118 It really is insane. It's one thing talking about how the rocket its the size of a building and another to actually see it standing on the horizon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 06:13:19 2023 No.15496155 >>15496110 you thought of everything. technology readiness 100

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 06:13:46 2023 No.15496156 >>15493710 based, I support this 100%

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 06:49:56 2023 No.15496212 >>15496118 One tile is as big as a Starlink or a large Pizza box from Dominos

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 06:56:39 2023 No.15496220 >>15495843 they knew that would most likely happen, but also knew this would advance spaceflight meaningfully probably helping with regulations somewhat but also legitimizing starship

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 07:01:24 2023 No.15496225 >>15496045 cool, haven't bothered to use lists but these could be pretty useful if you follow like 1000 accounts

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 07:03:17 2023 No.15496229 https://youtu.be/emZ-oROYq8s WE ARE LIVE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 07:03:56 2023 No.15496232 >>15496229 Was just gonna post this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 07:04:57 2023 No.15496236 >>15496229 https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1668152200957411331

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 07:05:59 2023 No.15496240 Staging >>15496239 >>15496239 >>15496239

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 12 07:06:13 2023 No.15496243 230th Falcon 9 launch total

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