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>irregardless
Now that the dust has settled, was the /sci/ wordcel 'lol grammar' heuristic vindicated in identifying him as a pseud before his book list and cringey tweets dropped?

>> No.15524381

>>15524368
buy an ad, rent free, etc

>> No.15524392

>>15524381
Mate...you do realize there's no practical difference between saging a thread and just not replying at all, right? Unless...there's some impulse you're having trouble controlling...for some reason...such as raging butthurt.

>> No.15524399
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>>15524368

>> No.15524405

>>15524392
they're usually reddit newfags or even some clueless oldfags who think they have to do it to trigger some kind of downvote system

>> No.15524406
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15524406

Why does the word "irregardless" trigger midwits so much?

>> No.15524410

>>15524406
Nah, I gave them shit, but now I think they sniffed out Lex before others.

>> No.15524544

i started to follow his podcast. so far it's not bad. i have no idea what he did before

>> No.15524549

>>15524406
undeirregardless,

>> No.15524551

>>15524549
Imundeirrgardless.

>> No.15524555
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless
>Is irregardless a word?
>Yes. It may not be a word that you like, or a word that you would use in a term paper, but irregardless certainly is a word. It has been in use for well over 200 years, employed by a large number of people across a wide geographic range and with a consistent meaning. That is why we, and well-nigh every other dictionary of modern English, define this word. Remember that a definition is not an endorsement of a word’s use.
>We label irregardless as “nonstandard” rather than “slang.” When a word is nonstandard it means it is “not conforming in pronunciation, grammatical construction, idiom, or word choice to the usage generally characteristic of educated native speakers of a language.”
Holy shit, this word seems to cause extreme amounts of butthurt.

>> No.15524556

>>15524555
I believe we should use the word irregardless of how normies feel. T'ain't no way they can stop me.

>> No.15524561

>>15524368
>*rolls eyes*
>*inhales deeply*
>*exhales profusely*
>leans on the mic
>admits lack of sleep
>irregardless

>> No.15524580

All words are invented you midwit. There’s nothing even particularly objectionable about irregardless except for its aesthetics and informality.

>> No.15524584

>>15524580
Does it mean the same as regardless? Why add “err” in front, like a spazzing retard?

>> No.15524594

>>15524584
I can't be bothered explaining, it doesn't actually matter, no one actually cares, shut the fuck up.

>> No.15524600

>>15524580
>There’s nothing even particularly objectionable
That's just your opinion, man. All standards of objection are invented, you midwit.

>> No.15524603

>>15524406
They believe there is some celestial realm of True Meanings where specially trained elite wordsmiths reach to create words.

>> No.15524608
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>>15524603
kek

>> No.15524646

>>15524406
>>15524603
This!! There's nothing wrong with the phrase 'trans women'. Words change. Chuds just don't get it.

>> No.15524744

>>15524580
Why not go all the way and speak Ebonics?

>> No.15524761

>>15524646
"trans women" is an intentional corruption of english made to serve a political agenda whereas "irregardless" or using "was" instead of "were" are harmless mistakes

>> No.15524955

>>15524580
Does it convey meaning? Yes.
Does it make you sound unintelligent? Yes.
Language is used to transfer thoughts from one consciousness to another and if you get it wrong you are judged inferior. You don't have to like it.

>> No.15524983

>>15524761
"Trans women" is just a straightforward use of language with a transparent meaning that has etymological precedent stretching back literally thousands of years.

>> No.15525126

>>15524983
>transparent meaning
Lol no

>> No.15525135

>>15525126
What would transgender mean other than the combination of "trans-" and "gender"? It's completely obvious, and only people with a political agenda are pretending to be mystified by it.

>> No.15525150

>>15525135
You originally said "Trans women" and half of normal people are confused whenever it means mtf or ftm

>> No.15525153

>>15525150
>mtf or ftm
don't get technical with me boy

trans women are women, it's in the name

>> No.15525157

>>15524744
If you want to speak ebonics, then go ahead.

>> No.15525159

>>15524405
the irony level in this thread is too high

>> No.15525172

>>15525153
>trans women are women, it's in the name
I see, thanks for clarifying.
What is a woman, btw?

>> No.15525173

>>15524983
No, it is misleadingly meant to look like the adjective 'trans' applied to the noun 'women' -- this is a misnomer however, as it is usually said of men who erroneously think that they are women (ergo, they are not actually women). To avoid thinly veiled propaganda by means of ambiguous language the term 'transwomen' should be used instead.

>> No.15525191

>>15525172
A person of the feminine gender
>>15525173
>it is misleadingly meant to
Prove it

>> No.15525196

>>15525191
Sure, let me walk you through this:
- A woman is an adult human female
- A transwoman is biologically a male and so isn't an adult human female, and so is not a woman
- 'Trans woman' is a noun phrase that means the same thing as transwoman
- To the uninitiated it looks like the adjective trans modifying the noun woman
- It is therefore misleading

>> No.15525203

>>15525196
>A woman is an adult human female
Wrong
>A transwoman is biologically a male and so isn't an adult human female, and so is not a woman
Yet you call them transwomen
> 'Trans woman' is a noun phrase that means the same thing as transwoman
So the distinction, which was pedantic to start with, is entirely pointless
>To the uninitiated it looks like the adjective trans modifying the noun woman
Which it is
It is therefore accurate

What's interesting here though is that you ascribe intent to certain word usage, when you yourself admit to preferring certain phrasings for express political purposes yourself. Seems likely to be projection on your part.

>> No.15525206
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>>15525191
>What is a woman?
>A person of the feminine gender
What is the feminine gender?

>> No.15525210

>>15525206
Oh, so your definition of "woman" can include "female" but mine can't include "feminine"?

>> No.15525211

>>15525203
>wrong
Pick up a biology textbook and stop watching your retarded breadtube channels.
>Yet you call them transwomen
Think about how the word 'woman' relates to 'man'. It is literally the word man with a prefix that basically means 'wife'. If I were to reject transwomen on grounds of it being a prefix + a word that identifies the opposite gender to the underlying concept, I would have to reject the word 'woman' on the same grounds.
>So the distinction is pointless
No, for reasons I explained

>What's interesting here though is that you ascribe intent to certain word usage, when you yourself admit to preferring certain phrasings for express political purposes yourself. Seems likely to be projection on your part.
Transphobia is the neutral position.

>> No.15525216

>>15525211
>It is literally the word man with a prefix that basically means 'wife'.
That's not true, actually; the OE "wif" just meant woman, and "man" here is used in the general sense of "human".
>No, for reasons I explained
You didn't, really. You simply insisted on it.
>Transphobia is the neutral position.
That is a popular claim for very much non-neutral positions to make.

>> No.15525220

>>15525210
"Female" references biology.
"The feminine gender" is literary just "gender of a woman", remains undefined

>> No.15525221

>>15525211
>>15525216
Also: "wif" is not a prefix.

>> No.15525225

>>15525220
"Feminine" references sociology :^)

>> No.15525228

>>15525225
What differentiates a feminine python vs a masculine python?

>> No.15525230

>>15525225
What is "the feminine gender"?

>> No.15525232

>>15524406
I never cared about irregardless, but I have always hated the word “normalcy” which is a media invention, the correct word is “normality”

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>>15525216
>>15525221
>"wif" just meant woman, "wif" is not a prefix
Alright, quite besides the point, which is that a word can have a meaning that isn't obvious from it's appearance if you only know its components (however, a noun phrase composed of words with well-defined meaning in English is different!)
>"Transphobia is the neutral position" is a popular claim for right-wing pundits to make
Go to any country that hasn't been touched by America's crusade of faggotry and observe exactly 0 individuals who believe that men can become women. Also go dilate while you're at it, I have better things to do than to argue ad nauseam with a guy who's going to ack within the next 5 years.

>> No.15525237

>>15525228
I don't know, I haven't studied python society
>>15525230
A social role traditionally forced upon adult female humans

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>>15525237
You're a fucking quack lmao

>> No.15525244

>>15525235
>quite besides the point, which is that a word can have a meaning that isn't obvious from it's appearance if you only know its components (however, a noun phrase composed of words with well-defined meaning in English is different!)
I fail to see how all of that isn't besides the point. "Trans woman" is a compound noun however you write it, and removing a space doesn't really add transparency or alter its meaning in any way.
>Go to any country that hasn't been touched by America's crusade of faggotry and observe exactly 0 individuals who believe that men can become women.
Like in True Scotsland?

>> No.15525251

>>15525239
Would you say that all women are, by definition, feminine? That every feminine person is a woman? That "feminine woman" is a tautology? If not, you have to admit there's a difference between "being feminine" and "being a woman".

>> No.15525288

>>15524761
>is an intentional corruption of english made to serve a political agenda
So? There's no celestial realm of True Meanings where specially trained elite wordsmiths reach to create words.

>> No.15525296

>>15525251
>trolling outside of /b/

>> No.15525513

>>15524368
Hes russian

>> No.15525528

>>15524368
Anyone who says any of the following is a fucking moron:
>irregardless
>could care less
>addicting

>> No.15525537

>>15525251
>Would you say that all women are, by definition, feminine?
I wouldn't say that but, obviously, if someone else said that, then I wouldn't dispute it. That's one of those words that has a couple of enumerated definitions in the dictionary like:
>possessing qualities generally associated with females
>the quality of being female

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>>15525537
>women
>females
>female
Non-man!

>> No.15525613

>>15524406
Because adding two extra letters without changing the meaning of the word is the epitome of wasting everyone's fucking time.

>> No.15525697

>>15525537
>I wouldn't say that but, obviously, if someone else said that, then I wouldn't dispute it.
Why wouldn't you dispute it when it's so highly disputable?

I have a penis. Can I be feminine?