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Euclid Telescope Edition
Previous: >>15529835
Launch stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OJ6lCFS29Y

>> No.15534026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXpQCQ0l14U
Hardware on the move, feat. paypiggies

>> No.15534037
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Maxar’s PPE (for Gateway) is supposed to fly next year, yet I can’t recall seeing a single photo of hardware yet

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>> No.15534048

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09DDpHdIYgU

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>>15534041

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>>15534041

>> No.15534060

>>15534058
except blacks

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>>15534037
https://twitter.com/NASA_Gateway/status/1641816159027593220

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>> No.15534073

https://aviationweek.com/podcasts/check-6/podcast-record-boeings-ceo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0U9llcuaXA

Got damn they really don't learn do they. Thanks anon how posted the pod cast weeks ago.

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will star ship have multiple launches a day?

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SLS is a little guy

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>> No.15534093

>>15534073
Maybe spoke to soon, they want to vertically integrate more..

>> No.15534097

>>15534081
How do the dimensions compare when you dock starship hls to the side?

>> No.15534098

>>15534081
In terms of pressurized volume, the difference is less dramatic. ISS just has fuckhuge trusses and solar panels/radiators taking up lots of space.

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I’m guessing BO and Sierra are having cold feet about the availability of Starliner and crew Dreamchaser?

>> No.15534124

>>15534077
Yes it will, Billy. Now go to sleep.

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>>15534078
>Falcon 9 lifts off
>fire and clouds
>the clouds part
>suddenly, STARSHIP TOWER

>> No.15534147

>>15534099
It's more that Jeff Bezos figured out how to save money by having Indians do the scut work like he did at Amazon.

>> No.15534155

>>15534072
This is the best. Every time I see it, it puts a smile on my face.

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>>15534099
Why cant they just use dragon

>> No.15534208

alternative way to view twitter

>https://syndication.twitter.com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-name/SciGuySpace
>https://syndication.twitter.com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-name/cosmic_penguin
>https://syndication.twitter.com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-name/spacex
>https://syndication.twitter.com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-name/SpcPlcyOnline
>https://syndication.twitter.com/srv/timeline-profile/screen-name/ringwatchers

>> No.15534217

>>15534185
Pride

>> No.15534228 [DELETED] 

Currently working at a burger king in Pasadena near Jpl. Thinking of maybe going in and trying to get an interview at the cafeteria. Eventually I could work my way up. Perhaps even become kitchen manager, or getting involved in ordering inventory. Not food safety certified currently, but know everything needed to get that.

>> No.15534239

>>15534185
spacex is moving to starship, so who knows if dragon will be available. also spacex is a competitor.

>> No.15534243

>>15534185
arkansas is better kansas

>> No.15534252

anyone post this yet
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-29/labor-axes-morrison-government-satellite-program/102538686

>> No.15534258

So did they put in the plates or not? I saw a notice from NSF that they were in the process of doing so, but when I clicked on the video fuck all was happening.

>> No.15534281

>>15534208
>Year 2023 in Lord Elon's calendar
>not having a twitter account

>> No.15534297

pen island

>> No.15534308

goodnight sfg

>> No.15534324

why's it dead

>> No.15534326
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This is what we will do in space.

>> No.15534329

>>15534324
Americans are asleep.

>> No.15534334

vast is right. we're going to need bigger space stations. axiom is a dead end.

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>> No.15534356

can't sleep
starting to think starship is not going to work
hot staging makes me question re usability

>> No.15534358

>>15534356
If it doesn't work they'll try something else. They are not committed to anything forever.

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*sip*
Ahh another beautiful day in outer space.

>> No.15534365

>>15534359
you can already do this in vr chat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi0gdQsfUyI

>> No.15534370

>>15534326
god I wish, fuck e*rthers

>> No.15534377

>>15534281
All my opinions are garbage why would i need to broadcast them.

>> No.15534379

>>15534356
Go to sleep moron, hot stage is best part no part

>> No.15534384

>>15534379
Hot staging seems like a shift towards more rapid development at the expense of eventual speed of reusability.

>> No.15534390

>>15534281
I don't have spotify either
Just that.. I'm not installing it is all..
Ugh.. i know.. i know.. its' just....

>> No.15534397

>>15534365
You can tell it's real because it looks indistinguishable from reality.

>> No.15534403

>>15534384
Reusability is kind of a meme anyway

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Okay, but does anyone else think the Reebok logo looks like SpaceX? Pretty sure that's even the same shade of blue.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09DDpHdIYgU

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>>15534026
comes out at about 18min

>> No.15534412

>>15534026
I'm not as bothered by the merch selling all the time now, they have a lot of employees I guess and the no commentary compilations are pretty good

>> No.15534414

>>15534404
Wow you're right! Wait till J. Heebey Kikeburger Esq. sees this and files a copyright lawsuit, Space X is literally finished.

>> No.15534420

today is the Euclid launch. Euclid will investigate dark mater and dark energy

>> No.15534421

>>15534384
if that is the case, they can solve the reusable staging later if hot staging means you can only reuse the booster a few times (or perhaps reuse but then need to refurbish/replace the interstage)
if that is actually what they are doing, it still makes sense, you can test all of the other systems but not get hang up on this one thing, which can then be developed further simultaneously with other problems like orbital refilling etc

>> No.15534424

>>15534420
Fake matter and fake energy
Jesus christ warned about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFGF8N-mrjg

>> No.15534425

>>15534424
good bait

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>>15534420
total mission failure

>> No.15534434

>>15534420
>>15534431
Euclid's going to map the shape of galaxies and compare the shapes with the redshift measured values. This should reveal something about the nature of dark matter and dark energy.

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https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-ingenuity-mars-helicopter-phones-home

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https://www.wired.com/story/euclid-the-telescope-search-for-dark-energy/

yet another article about euclid

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https://breakingdefense.com/2023/06/space-force-chief-seeks-to-shift-mindset-to-defend-joint-force-on-the-ground/

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Would (You)?

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>>15534431
Why are cranks so afraid of new data? Like it's a bad thing people are testing the current model to the limits.
Any real alternative cosmology will also have to meet the tests of Euclid's data. The observational constraints don't depend on DE or DM being real. Any real cosmology could also calculate predictions for weak gravitational lensing and baryon acoustic oscillations.
So where are the predictions for QI? Oh that's right, it's not a real cosmology. It's just a series of blogposts.

BAOs are incredibly cool. The universe has a preferred length scale which is set by the distance sound waves could travel in the early universe. They act as a fixed ruler to test the geometry of the universe. They we're a prediction of standard cosmology (with DM and DE) and they have been detected in the distribution of galaxies and the CMB. Part of Euclid's job will be measuring the scale in 3D across a range of epochs.

>> No.15534460

>>15534450
space force has no weapons

>> No.15534465

>virgin galactic and blue origin only cost $500k but struggle to get passengers
no destination = no customers

>> No.15534469

>>15534465
>only 500k
If you able to spend that much on a joyride then there shouldn't be a problem spending millions on an actual trip to space when it actually becomes available.

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>>15534048
>>15534406

very good video

>> No.15534478

>>15534451
>Intern
>Likely unpaid
>For a company that's already in the dumpster
Hell no. Wouldn't even put it on a CV.

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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/06/saturns-rings-steal-the-show-in-new-image-from-webb-telescope/

>> No.15534488

>>15534485
They are the gateway.

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>>15534485
https://spacenews.com/nasa-to-add-fourth-pair-of-roll-out-arrays-to-iss/

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https://spacenews.com/chinas-changguang-satellite-demonstrates-space-to-ground-laser-links/

>> No.15534497

>>15534456
Good point. If your pet theory doesn't like good data, it is a fake theory.

>> No.15534519

>>15534434
sound very interesting and it will open up a lot of new questions

>> No.15534522

>>15534485
I wonder what the science case behind this image is

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soon-ish

>> No.15534562

>>15534478
I imagine the barrier of entry would be lower than other space companies. And it would be cool to say "I did space work". But then again he would do it for free.

>> No.15534566

I don't think I'm ever again gonna do something for free

>> No.15534576

>>15534562
Having a rocketry badge from the cub scouts would probably look better on a CV than unpaid intern at Astra.

>> No.15534592

what if we made a rocket that uses a TEA-TEB ignition mixture as its fuel

>> No.15534610

>>15534041
average faggot

>> No.15534613

>>15534060
except mark zuckerbrg

>> No.15534625

>>15534613
Zuck will take care of Musk

>> No.15534699

>>15534566
you just posted content to 4chan for free

>> No.15534704

>>15534208
This UI is also much better than twitter's dogshit default... what the hell?

>> No.15534722

>>15534704
on mobile maybe. it's atrocious on pc.

>> No.15534730

>>15534722
Fuck you it loads instantly unlike the laggy piece of shit that is normal twitter and it's closer to imageboards

>> No.15534812

>>15534460
For now. They're a military branch, not an intelligence-gathering branch. They're closer in structure and mission to the Marines than the NRO.

>> No.15534819

>>15534456
I remember watching Particle Fever years and years ago when it came out, and they interviewed some grey beard at CERN who had gathered with everyone else in build-up to the data collection that led to the Higgs confirmation, and he was like; "I have devoted 35 years of my life to this theory (some alternative to the Higgs), and if it turns out that I've been wrong... I don't know what I'll do."

>> No.15534919

>>15534730
What the fuck are you talking about? Are you on an ancient dual core pc or something? Twitter desktop works instantly

>> No.15534924

So what's this Euclid satellite doing? TV broadcasts? Spying? I don't think we should let that thing launch

>> No.15534942

>>15534924
It fires incel warning beams at everyone who is approaching you so they know to stay away.

>> No.15534943

>>15534592
Now this is rocketry.

>> No.15534950
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>>15534919
You have so low standards it's disgusting. Never post about web performance ever again.

>> No.15534956

lmao the channel hosting the livestream wasn't even spacex, fuckin scam channel with a fake elon musk cryptocurrency press conference

>> No.15534966

>>15534956
The best part is that you don't even need to do some unicode fuckery. You can just name your channel SpaceX and use their logo and start livestreaming no questions asked.

>> No.15534972

>>15534924
It looks for negro energy

>> No.15534973

>>15534956
https://youtu.be/U60LhdfgDGk

>> No.15534991

>>15534973
stupid link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OJ6lCFS29Y

>> No.15534997
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Try and convince me that an medium lift airbreathing methalox SSTO spaceplane wouldn't be a good investment for the
USSF.

Pros:

>fully reusable
>makes existing spaceport infrastructure obsolete by being to use any runway from a major airport
>can self transport from one place on Earth to another and thus can be used as a strategic hypersonic transport
>relies mostly on aerodynamic lift rather than engine thrust to achieve orbit and therefore needs less fuel
>can be easily reconfigured to piggy-back other spacecraft to orbit making it suitable for both SSTO and TSTO missions

Cons:

>/sfg/ hates spaceplanes

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How much is redshift, in terms of wavelength expansion over distance? Say how long of a distance causes 1 nm shift?

>> No.15535015

>>15534991
SpaceX mission control listing all their launches on the wall would get crowded real quickly.

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>>15534997
>relies mostly on aerodynamic lift rather than engine thrust to achieve orbit and therefore needs less fuel

Smartest spaceplane fan.

>> No.15535043

>>15535002
It depends on the original wavelength. Hubble's law:
velocity = H_0 x D
H_0 is Hubble's constant, which says that for every million parsecs of distance the apparent recession velocities is about 70 km/s.
And the Doppler shift is
v/c = delta-lambda/lambda.
So assuming visible light (500 nm) to start. That is a velocity of 600 km/s and a distance of 8.6 Mpc or 28 million lightyears. It's pretty nearby, it's about as far as the Whirlpool and Sombrero galaxies which are some of the nearest big neighbors to the local group.

>> No.15535051

This is the first L2 launch SpaceX ever done? wow

>> No.15535058

>>15534997
Your post in a nutshell is exactly why we hate spaceplanes and spaceplane fans.

>> No.15535062

>ESA guy thanks everyone but SpaceX

LMAO, THEY ARE SEEETHING

>> No.15535066

>>15535034

The point being less engine power is used directly opposing earth's gravity in a HTHL configuration.

>> No.15535068

Clear live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww16LPIzOKM

>> No.15535069

>>15535062
It was always the case

>> No.15535071

A FALCON 9 JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>> No.15535074

max qute

>> No.15535075

Max-Qute!

>> No.15535078

STAGE 2 CA, OS JD

>> No.15535080

>>15535078
STAGE 2 CAM IS HD!!!!

>> No.15535083

Good grief that booster is freaking cruising

>> No.15535084

black matter matters

>> No.15535085

why is it snowing on the second stage cam

>> No.15535086

SO MUCH KINO!

>> No.15535087

"vehicle will be landing for its second time today" What

>> No.15535088

>landing for its second time today
wow. these turn arounds are quick!

>> No.15535090

>>15535085
it's mvac rat dandruff

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>> No.15535094

Kind of ridiculous how SX have over 200 orbital rocket booster landings. No one is in second place, everyone else has 0

>> No.15535096

>>15535090
not rats, it was a full on snake today!

>> No.15535097

>>15535068
>booster lands
>"yahtaaaaaa!"
oh, this is why I live!

>> No.15535100

>>15535094
Also crazy to me the level of reliability they've achieved

>> No.15535105

>>15535097
What a dumb fake bitch. Elation is proportional to surprise. You don't cheer water coming from the faucet.

>> No.15535108

>>15535080
Yeah I noticed some improvement.

>> No.15535110

>>15535108
Earth has never looked more beautiful

>> No.15535112

wow those stage 2 shots are beautiful

>> No.15535114

>reminder that the payload is still attached to the second stage at this point
ty

>> No.15535116

Wtf was that ice “rain” during the initial stage 2 burn? I was fucking scared

>> No.15535117

>>15535114
daily reminder that the payload is still attached to the second stage at this point.

>> No.15535118

>>15535066
Purely on the basis of profile HTHL is less efficient than VTHL.
Every second of aerodynamic flight you are incurring gravity losses in the form of induced drag.
It can only be justified by high efficiency air breathing propulsion, but even then it's extremely impractical.

Ultimately you are always going to need a tiny mass fraction to get to orbit, air-breathing flight, even Hypersonic, can only cover a fraction of orbital velocity, so that means at takeoff your weight is going to be at minimum 5x your weight at landing.

That means in order to be able to fly at takeoff you will need 5x more wing area than you would need to land, and it all needs to be suitable for hypersonic flight and re-entry.
It's just an impossible challenge.

VTHL designs like the X-33, that are basically flying fuel tanks are the only kind that makes sense.
If you want a hypersonic air breather, it makes much more sense as a TSTO carrier plane, so you don't have to carry all the wings needed to fly a 500ton rocket at 300mph (and then 3000mph) up into orbit with you.

>> No.15535120

>>15535114
I was getting worried it had fallen off since they didn't show it on camera.

>> No.15535121

uh oh Zuma 2...

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sierra niggers absolutely BTFO

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>>15535125
Deny all frivolous allegations

>> No.15535139

>>15534451
That's a man, you faggot.

Oh, you mean the internship? That's Astra, you faggot.

>> No.15535140

>>15535118
>Ultimately you are always going to need a tiny mass fraction to get to orbit

Sorry I should have said large, the point is that you still need to be overwhelmingly fuel by mass, even if you can get to 3000m/s on air-breathing power alone (a big stretch)

>> No.15535141

>>15534478
>>Intern
>>Likely unpaid
this doesn't happen in a california tech company. it's certainly a paid internship.

>> No.15535145

https://youtu.be/oPMMlZFwypc?t=159
Insanely kino

>> No.15535148

>>15534450
>military doctrine yet again decades behind technological and economic reality
Is this always true outside of some exceptions during total war? Or is it just a characteristic of bureaucracies and large organizations?

>> No.15535150

>rate limited on twitter
enron mollusk fix the fucking site

>> No.15535151

>>15534699
You're not getting paid?! Embarrassing!

>> No.15535156

>>15535150
Just pay the 40k for unlimited API access. Are you poor?

>> No.15535161

>>15535150
>public town square
>oops not anymore make account bitch
>rate limited
>not my problem

I really seriously hate that Musk switched from Mars to this

>> No.15535166

>>15534997
What's the estimated cost per kg to LEO next year, in five years, in ten years and in 20 years?

Include the development costs, infrastructure costs, hardware costs, fuel costs and operating costs.

You can assume a number of launches per year that's consistent with the launch price.

If it's more expensive than Starship at any given time then there's no reason to build it other than that you think it's cool.

>> No.15535170

>>15535145
holy fuck that's a big die

>> No.15535172

>>15535097
>excited about spoken Japanese
>gets the one word he was excited about wrong
You are a weeb.
You are a gay retard.
Your disgusting simping for male vtubers is off topic in this thread and on this board.

If you want to be Japanese, take a kitchen knife and cut your own intestines out while shouting Tennou Heika Banzai. I'll send your idol (male) a link to the livestream.

>> No.15535175

>>15535172
wow this autist is still here huh

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>> No.15535179

Im in japan bros, where can i find Clear? i want to kiss

>> No.15535190

>>15535172
not that anon, but are you always such a whiny little bitch anon? i can hear the annoying nasal voice through the screen.

>> No.15535194

>>15535145
what are they gonna screw into those holes? Nozzles?

>> No.15535195
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>>15535172

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>> No.15535225

>>15535177
>xkcd ripped this off but worse
many such cases. munroe is tremendous faggot

>> No.15535227

>>15535194
that is where the outer plates go.
idk how that's gonna work though unless they leave enough of a gap to get a wrench inbetween.

>> No.15535229

>>15534997
because its a fantasy?
if building something like that was possible, sure it would be a good idea for the USSF
but its not possible

>> No.15535230

>>15534997
>SSTO
lol. didn't read

>> No.15535231

>>15535229
or maybe I shouldn't say it is not possible, who knows
its not something that can be done in the near term extending on current technology very easily, might be possible sometime

>> No.15535239

>>15535141
Dude, it's fucking Astra. They're a dead company walking.

>> No.15535240

>>15535230
based

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>>15535125
10. Based.
11. Based.
12. Based.
13. Based.
14. Based.

>> No.15535261

episode 80 flyover drivel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv-dJdIdAnw

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>>15535227
I think they don't have that size wrench at Harbor Freight. They're going to have to special order it.

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Can it get any worse?

>> No.15535304

>>15535296
>every single reply you see counts
yeah that's gonna be bad

>> No.15535306

>>15535296
Thank you elon for improving twitter with these cool new features. please kill nitter and its alternatives

>> No.15535316

Elon woke up one day and decided to ruin twitter

>> No.15535317

>>15535125
10. It's not my fault
11. It's not my fault
12. It's not my fault
13. It's not my fault
14. It's not my fault

>> No.15535318

>>15535296
its probably their backend breaking, he couldn't resist destroying the golden goose

>> No.15535324

>>15534456
>Why are cranks so afraid of new data?
retards read "telescope to search for dark matter and dark energy" and start shitting their pants

>> No.15535327

>>15535318
I am breaking your mother's backend thereby destroying the golden goose.

>> No.15535328

SpaceX? More like spay sex, am I right, redditbros?

>> No.15535329

>>15534562
>But then again he would do it for free.
like the jannies?

>> No.15535335

>>15535296
I wouldn't give a shit about needing an account to access Twitter if you didn't need to enter your phone number to create one.

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>> No.15535338

>>15535335
skill issue or under 18

>> No.15535339

>>15535318
No, it's about keeping Twitter's data on Twitter

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I miss Pre-2020 Elon

>> No.15535362

Twitter was working fine until Elon showed up. Wtf did he do?

>> No.15535363

>>15535172
Everythings gonna be daijobu my lil nigga

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOetjCCNZ3w

>> No.15535374

>>15535362
If you think twitter was working fine before elon I doubt you had much experience with twitter

>> No.15535375

>>15535362
he got called cis scum one too many times

>> No.15535377

>>15535362
He wanted chud devs in commie central. Maybe if he brings back remote work some of the chud devs will work for him.

>> No.15535386

I was an Elon shill until he started posting Chinese and Russian propoganda. Dude is a fucking traitor to his nation.
Can SpaceX survive without Elon? Serious question.

>> No.15535389

>>15535386
you're a faggot

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>>15535389
I’m a patriot, and anyone who stands in the way of US interests is a fucking traitor

>> No.15535395

>>15535394
you're a fag

>> No.15535403

>>15535362
It wasn't, you still needed an account to view stuff if you happened to be on some cancerous A/B test or from mobile, the pop-up could be dismissed after the sale. It's a good thing anyway, people shouldn't rely on those corpos for their content.

>> No.15535404

>>15535066
Instead, that engine power is used to overcome drag on your wings, which then generates lift, which overcomes gravity. Which is manifestly inefficient.

The only reason a HTHL spaceplane might(!) be more efficient during the "T" part is that it doesn't have to use fuel as propellant. But if you're talking rocketplanes (Me-163, for example), there's no efficiency advantage.

>> No.15535409

>>15535403
>the pop-up could be dismissed after the sale
and now the popup is a hard redirect instead and additionally with an account it's currently unusable unless you pay the subscription as well.

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>>15535386
Elon musk could literally chop my balls off, fuck my gf, and kill my whole family. I would support him if it killed me so long as it means we conquer the stars

>> No.15535419

>>15535411
least dedicated musk fan

>> No.15535432

The company will be gone by then

>>15535362
(unintentionally) Crashing it with no survivors, like it should've been long ago

>> No.15535434

>>15535432
first part meant as a reply to >>15534451

>> No.15535446

>>15535394
Elon has done more for US interests than you could in 1000 lifetimes.
What does that make you?

>> No.15535454

>>15535296
I hate bots too. The final solution to the bot problem though is probably people sending their ID to twitter to verify and laws against abusing this system

>> No.15535456

>>15535411
>>15535419
Real Elon fans do all that themselves because Elon commanded it in a dream

>> No.15535459

I like Elon more or less but need to call out him and his companies for their severe lying.

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>>15535394
Without Elon the US would be having to ride in Soyuz you ingrate

>> No.15535467

Can someone update the 2023 in spaceflight wiki page? Its missing the last couple SpaceX launches and some suborbital stuff

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_spaceflight

I would do it autistically but idk how to use wiki editor

>> No.15535470

>>15535467
no i will not do that

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>>15535432
Exactly. Elon could break it or fix it. Either way, He can do no wrong

>> No.15535485

>>15535467
>I would do it autistically but idk how to use wiki editor
same here

>> No.15535487

Can we please stop pretending that the Spaceflight revolution happened because of anything but Elon and only Elon??

>> No.15535489

>>15535467
this is gonna be so quaint in 50 years. do they have 2023 in aeroflight? 2023 in ocean?

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Elon supremacy

>> No.15535491
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Im trying to get midjourney to design reusable rockets but it can only spit out shuttle derived crap

>> No.15535495

>>15535487
there were preliminary rumblings in the 90s, but yeah elon's autism accelerated the timeline by decades

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>>15535491
AI will solve all our problems

>> No.15535501

>>15535491
create a space frigate fighting another in LEO

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Based Elon is making people go outside

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>>15535508
Prigo's face after realizing his coup failed

>> No.15535547

>>15535523
That photo was taken right after the coup was called off.

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Will it happen?

>> No.15535571

>>15535296
>we want more users
>also we only want you to use twitter 1 minute per day
>also go touch grass
I have no idea how Musk thinks is achieving with twitter

>> No.15535573

>>15535487
Its actually Elon and ONLY Elon

If you disagree, then you're a retard

>> No.15535578

>>15535573
>Its actually Elon and ONLY Elon
literally what I wrote

>> No.15535583

>>15535578
I'm just rehashing, whats your problem BUDDY. You wanna rate limit your post so only 4chan gold pass users can reply to it?

>> No.15535590

>>15535583
Schizo why did you have to come back

>> No.15535599

>>15535583
yes

>> No.15535656

>>15535489
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_aviation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ship_launches_in_2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_2023
autism has no limits

>> No.15535670

>>15535362
>Twitter was working fine until Elon showed up
It was bleeding money and if it wasn't for Elon buying it up, it would have crashed by now.
Why do you think tw*tt*r was so aggressive to get Elon to buy it all of the sudden?

>> No.15535672

>>15535656
Wikipedia has bit of a problem where some forms of encyclopediac content is not approved because of low importance/whatever. So it goes to rot in shit-quality wikifarms like fandom.

And instead wikipedians have to channel their autism into making somewhat pointless lists of lists of lists. Yes, literally.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists?useskin=vector

>> No.15535673

>>15535672
Isn't fandom only for pop culture stuff?

>> No.15535691

>>15535673
It's not the only wikifarm, just the biggest.
Back in early 2000s wikipedia had more and better detailed articles on many low-importance topics, but much been removed over the years as the site continues to engage in futile attempts to limit its growth/scope and herd editors towards more important stuff. That never works. Actual encyclopedia articles are removed but instead you get lists of fucking everything.

>> No.15535705

>>15535670
>Why do you think tw*tt*r was so aggressive to get Elon to buy it all of the sudden?
because elon signed the contract promising to pay literally 10x the site's real value.
obviously the bagholders would do everything for that no matter if green haired folks wanted to do a poison pill or whatever.
it wasn't bleeding money before he bought it. his buying created a whole bunch of debt plus ads pulling out.
he said this himself.

>> No.15535733

>>15535672
>This page is a list of lists of lists—a list of pages that are lists of other list articles. Each of the pages linked here is an index to multiple lists on a topic.

>> No.15535734

>>15535497
Al who?

>> No.15535749

>>15535734
It's not Al anymore. It's DUNK

>> No.15535751

>>15534997
I think people are forgetting how absolutely minmaxed Starship is relative to other TSTO architectures. I don't see anyone else but SpaceX getting full TSTO reuse right in the next 25-30 years.

>> No.15535758

Hurry up Elon, earth is too hot to live. Global warming fucked us.

>> No.15535759

>>15535758
Just fucking launch the sulfur then already.

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https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1675197047006457856
>Views from the second stage

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>>15535770

>> No.15535779

>>15535751
>how absolutely minmaxed Starship is
its tank is 5x the thickness of other upper stages.
they literally just have pedro weld shit on the side if they feel like it.
there is nothing minmaxed about it, it's just huge and uses the best rocket engine ever created.

>> No.15535782

Euclid bros...

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>>15535770
>>15535773
wow that's really something

>> No.15535788

>>15535779
Starship solves all of its problems by being too large for the problems to matter

>> No.15535791

>>15535785
Maybe he will do a combo deal. Unlimited tweet weaving using Starlink. What a steal that would be.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw6b5wAq-vg

>> No.15535825

>>15535782
what happened

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>>15535759
We could call the mission series Biodegradeable Recooling of the Atmosphere via Aerosolized Particles of Sulfur.
>BRAAPS

>> No.15535845

>>15535817
flame diverterfags on suicide watch

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>>15535386
>I was an Elon shill until he started posting Chinese and Russian propoganda.

It's always funny when the lefties say this but can never give examples because they never actually saw the thing they have been told to think.

>> No.15535868

hop when?

>> No.15535872

>>15535758
Injecting industrial club soda into basalt transmutes it into limestone. It’s a good way to lock it away on Venus
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aad8132

>> No.15535873

>>15535817
What's your bets for OFT 2 launch date? I'm think of NET October 2023 right now

>> No.15535877

>>15535873
It will be delayed indefinitely after Transporter-9 proves QI thrusters work and we can stop using rocket propulsion for reusable launch.

>> No.15535882

>>15535877
the qi memesat was delayed to transporter 73

>> No.15535942

>>15535051
I was confused at first, but DSCOVR went to L1 lol

>>15535116
Seemed to be shaking quite a bit

>> No.15535971

>>15535873
I'm saying September right now but merely because that's when things used to happen. More realistic is probably NET two months or so after booster testing starts in earnest, so October sounds pretty good.

>> No.15535999

>>15535873
April 2024

>> No.15536008

>>15535873
deux semaines

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>>15534058
You pedos need no apply

>> No.15536028

>>15536022
pedos will be welcomed on mars actually (increased birth rate)

>> No.15536031

mars will be the only country that doesnt grant citizenship on birth, but only after you undergo a deep psych eval, genetic test, and have been honorably discharged from military conscription

>> No.15536039

>>15534456
No need for new data because Quantised Inertia means the problem is already solved.
The money spent on this telescope would be better spent funding Quantised Inertia awareness programs to spread the good news to the public.

>> No.15536043

>>15534450
I can't get over their stupid button-heavy tunics and their hats festooned with space chevrons

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>>15535352
>missing anything from the pre-starship era
get out, tourist

>> No.15536208

Imagine the catastrophic level of cope from ifls fags if QI is proven right, some random schizo btfos all their decades of wasted research and simultaneously gives us a reactionless drive. It's too beautiful so it's not going to happen I don't think.

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>>15536208
You forget that the universe is a silliness maximizing function. We will get giant propellantless sunshields allowing us to start chilling Venus in this century and mankind's dreams of space dinosaurs will be fulfilled within a millennium, while "hard" scifi enjoyers seethe in their tin can habs.

>> No.15536259

>>15535846
He's said some good things about China and supported surrender of Ukraine.
He's already too pro-asiatic just from those things.

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What African nations will join ROSS?

>> No.15536281

>>15536218
I like your optimism!

>> No.15536293

Eric Berger hasn't written a new article on Arstechnica in over a week and they got some new guy writing about space...

Is Eric leaving?

>> No.15536301

>>15536274
None of them. Artemis Accords are too powerful.

>> No.15536305

>>15534066
I love these photos, everyone genuinely loves the thing they've made

>> No.15536324

Hot staging is a cope, and totally cucks the idea behind super heavy/starship. Change my mind

>> No.15536328

Doesn't even deserve a (you), get better bait

>> No.15536335

>>15536324
Hotstaging is safe and effective.

>> No.15536344

Outland is a fine space movie

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>>15535172
ebin posd bitch XD

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>>15535196
Not enough hydrogen or helium on the near parsecs, and due this requires lots of mass or energy for the size of the nozzle to capture them, pity.

>> No.15536349

>>15535362
>working fine
>before Muskus
you fucking tranny

>> No.15536355

>>15536028
Into the woodchipper you go

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thanks Jupiter

>> No.15536358

>>15536344
shpace

>> No.15536362

damn they should re-make Outland but in a 1898 western setting
that would be cool

>> No.15536367

>>15536362
They should remake Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid in space

>> No.15536368

>>15536274
even if they all joined they would be less useful than the uae

>> No.15536371

>>15536274
Imagine the smell

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holy shit, i get it now.
this is the future

>> No.15536377
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So is SpaceX planning on a propellant depot for Earth orbit any time soon?

>> No.15536389

>>15536377
They're planning to have one ready by HLS

>> No.15536393

>>15536377
A propellant depot was part of their HLS contract. It's just an extended Starship with no flaps in the one render we've seen iirc

>> No.15536398

>>15536393
If that’s the case, they could send up another one with docking ports and weld them together

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>>15535788
Tsiolkovsky BTFO

>> No.15536405

>>15536377
>Shelby class

jej

>> No.15536451

>>15535788
>>15535779
When they just had pedro do it the thing exploded at barely an atmosphere of pressure. They did a lot of quality control test articles before they flew SN5 with a representative vehicle architecture.

>> No.15536467
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I've been thinking about cheap ways to store energy on Mars without shipping literal megatons of lithium batteries, until governments finally let the colonists use fission reactors, and it looks like methanol fuel cells are a good fit. Methanol is liquid at all but the coldest and hottest Martian surface temperatures, which means you get the nice storage properties and longevity of a liquid hydrocarbon fuel, and the biggest risk of using them on Earth, lack of control of exposure to ambient oxygen, is a non issue on Mars if you keep the fuel cells outside the pressurized habs. Production of methanol from CO2, water, and solar-derived electricity is already being tested on Earth by e-fuel companies, so this allows a nice level of ISRU bootstrapping of storage capacity.

>> No.15536477

>>15536467
That's just another layer of complexity. You are already going to be producing methane and oxygen in absurd quantities compared to the amount of energy the colonists will need. Just bring a gas turbine and there's your backup.

>> No.15536482

>>15536467
Why not ethanol so it's not outrageously toxic?

>> No.15536491

>>15536482
Better power/volume density. It's not like lithium-ion batteries are full of happy fun materials either.

>>15536477
Methane is not liquid at room temperature or Mars temperature, and gas turbines shed a lot of heat. The goal is to replace as many battery applications as possible without strapping turbines and dorky gaseous-methane tanks to everything. For rovers in particular requiring onboard turbines would then require significant radiator mass since Martian atmosphere provides dick-all convective cooling.

>> No.15536498

>>15536491
>Better power/volume density.
Monomaniacal autism

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>>15536467
With ISRU you can go anywhere you want.

>> No.15536502

>>15536500
I wold fuk all her foxholes and gwt shit on mah dixk if ya kniw what i meam

>> No.15536507

>>15536293
maybe he is just on a vacation

>> No.15536508

>>15536293
Yes Eric is leaving

>> No.15536511

>>15536491
>Methane is not liquid at room temperature or Mars temperature

Doesn't matter, it's going to need to be stores in massive bulk quantities regardless, tacking on a little extra margin is a nothingburger and simplifies things. Best part no part etc.

>gas turbines shed a lot of heat

Who cares, pipe the heat out for use in an industrial process along the rest of the colonies waste heat.

>The goal is to replace as many battery applications as possible without strapping turbines and dorky gaseous-methane tanks to everything.

The mass of batteries for rovers is going to be fucking negligible in the grand scheme of things and you can't recharge a methanol fuel cell with a solar array like you could with a battery bank.

>> No.15536517

>>15536491
power/volume density is not very important for grid storage, at least its way down on the list compared to other considerations

>> No.15536518

imagine berger creating his own space news website

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https://spacenews.com/falcon-9-launches-esas-euclid-space-telescope/

>> No.15536535

>>15536511
Unless every point on the Martian surface is within ~20% max rover range of a multi megawatt charging station with its own battery or methalox turbine backup (hint: no) there will be a need for off grid vehicles.
>you can't recharge a fuel cell with a solar panel
You can't recharge a crew rover that moves faster than walking speed in less than a day with solar panels carried onboard given Martian insolation, which is why existing solar powered Mars rovers are so hilariously slow to conserve power. That means you're either going to need to build out more methalox conversion plants or use solar grid battery storage... or just use some liquid fuel depots. We've seen on Earth which is better for range extension.

>> No.15536569

>>15536377
>Shelby Class
hearty kek

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>> No.15536596
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> SpaceX's Falcon 9 & Falcon Heavy flightworthy boosters

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>>15536596
> Statistics of SpaceX's Falcon 9 & Falcon Heavy booster missions

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>>15536597
> Elon Musk's "100 launches plan"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjgCYOvgsPc

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> SpaceX closes the 2nd quarter of 2023 with 43 launches since the year began - which is an average of 4.2 days between launches. SpaceX's year so far, summarised.

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/14n4gf4/oc_spacex_closes_the_2nd_quarter_of_2023_with_43/

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>>15536603
posting more OC from the same dude

>> No.15536607
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>>15536606

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>>15536607
Mean time between launches in days

>> No.15536610

>>15536603
>which is an average of 4.2 days between launches

Wild stuff

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Cumulative number of starlinks launched per year

>> No.15536613
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>>15536612
Cumulative number of starlinks launched in total since program conception in 2019

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>>15536613
number of starlink satellites launched per month in 2022 and 2023

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>>15536614
same chart with number of v1.5 and v2.0 info added

>> No.15536637

Reuse is not viable, spacexcels are coping, Elon loses money on every booster just like the shuttle to make it look like his business is doing well. Only the government is competent in making cost effective space vehicles.

>> No.15536644

>>15536637
lwl, how is he still solvent then?

>> No.15536654

>>15536644
Taxpayer subsidised like the rest of his businesses

>> No.15536664

>>15536654
>FELON HUSK IS USING MY ALREADY COLLECTED TAX MONEY ON ROCKETS INSTEAD OF GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED S.O.Y. LATTES AND BVLLS FOR MY WIFE
>MY SOURCE? HE’S JUST DOING IT OKAY?!

>> No.15536667

>>15536664
Taxpayer money could be used for literally anything useful except musks vanity projects

>> No.15536675

>>15536667
They are the most useful things any tax money could be spent. Most of it goes to military and political dickwaving, keeping niggers spics and junkies alive for no gain, and private bank accounts/bailouts for businesses that make stupid decisions and are too well connected to fail.
This is akin to investing in the caravel industry in the 16th century. So no, no socialist s.o.y.berg paradise government for you

>> No.15536677

>>15536675
Enlarging Elon musks peepee is not a useful expenditure of tax money

>> No.15536679

>>15536654
What percentage of the US tax does Musk personally contribute to?
I suspect it's large enough that those subsidies are essentially him paying himself through a greedy middle man.

>> No.15536680

>>15536677
And neither are you but the government insists on keeping you around

>> No.15536681

>>15536679
He pays basically nothing using loopholes like every other billionaire parasite.

>>15536680
I work for a living unlike mega rich parasites

>> No.15536682

>>15536681
untrue, recently he paid the most tax of anyone ever.

>> No.15536688

>>15536682
Did he tell you that on twitter?

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>>15536688
ignoring inconvenient facts doesn't make them go away.

>> No.15536694

>>15536693
Woah cnbc, a reliable news source. Thanks system bootlicker.

>> No.15536696

>>15536681
>I work for a living
And what do you have to show for it? What great things have you given to society at large? Andrew Carnegie gave us cheap steel. Henry Ford gave everyone cheap, cross continental vehicles, von Braun gave us effective spaceflight. Being a mediocre office drone doesn’t entitle someone to more because you have less. Inequality is inherent in existence, we are better off, especially in the U.S. because the exceptional are allowed to rise to the top without the masses pulling them down or the incumbents holding back through social controls.
Textbook tall poppy syndrome

>> No.15536699

>>15536696
Having your rich daddy give you eneral mine slave money and getting taxpayer money doesn't make you successful, it just makes you another parasite

>Henry Ford

Antisemitic scum who defrauded documents to try and vilify an entire people

>Von Braun

Literal fucking nazi

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>>15536688
no because I need an account now

>> No.15536702

>>15536699
go back to tumblr

>> No.15536703

>>15536700
Poorfag can't afford eight dollars lmao

>>15536702
What year are you living in chud?

>> No.15536705

>>15536699
>He says, typing on his computer, after driving a car and presumably bitching on Reddit while not being beaten and robbed
Self awareness is not your strong suit. You would be in a far better position if you had the intellect and ambition to actually be successful

>> No.15536708

>>15536699
You need to go back.

>> No.15536710

>>15536705
My computing products are ethically sourced and running open source software produced by the people. Keep projecting chud.

>>15536708
No argument found

>> No.15536716

>>15536710
>open source software produced by the people
Made by programmers who are intelligent and motivated enough to actually learn and develop the coding for said software, also the computer itself you’re using was developed and produced by people smarter and more ambitious than you. They all took the tools they had to make something great, which you use to bitch about people building shit government and private companies want to buy.
>Chud
At least have enough ambition and creativity to give me non weak sauce insults, kikesucker

>> No.15536718

How could /sfg/ fall for bait this obvious?
Are you guys really that bored?

>> No.15536721

>>15536718
It's like shooting fish in a barrel, one of the easiest generals to get (you)s from. I will continue until they learn.

>> No.15536723

>>15536718
>>15536721
This thread is almost done for and arguing is fun, so there. I bet you’re anti skub faggots too

>> No.15536732

>>15536723
lol this thread is nowhere near done, probably going to be around something like 18-24h still until 10th page

>> No.15536740

>>15536324
>totally cucks the idea behind super heavy/starship
How so?

>> No.15536741

>>15536723
>This thread is almost done for
>page 4

Lmao, throat Elon cock some more reddit newfag

>> No.15536745

>>15536740
Yeah that booster is totally going to be reusable after the upper stage shits out a few hundred tonnes of fire on its top LOL

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The only reason why anyone did hot staging was to eliminate the need for ullage rockets to settle propellants before they lit the engines. It was never meant to push the rocket from the previous stage.

>> No.15536751

>>15536745
We'll see. I can see it working well enough for some test flights until a better system is refined.

>> No.15536753

>>15536751
What is starship, over a thousand tonnes? LOL that engine pressure is going to crush """superheavy""" like a coke can

>> No.15536771

>>15536753
>that engine pressure is going to crush """superheavy""" like a coke can
If Superheavy canhandle the force of 30 engines pushing against it, then it can handle 3.

>> No.15536778

>>15536771
Yeah dude because force in one direction is totally the exact same as force applied opposite. Kill yourself 80IQ.

>> No.15536793

>>15536778
Nice imbecile bait.

>> No.15536795

please go to /b/ or /pol/ to make lazy shitposts please

>> No.15536823

can Felon Mosque make me a refrigerated gorilla suit? They get too hot to keep on for long periods of time

>> No.15536825

>>15536793
Did you do high school physics incel?

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>he can't handle 3 rvacs staging on top of his head
Maybe if you go outside and hit the gym you wouldn't be this much of a necklet lmao

>> No.15536836

>>15536829
Post physique, you won't incel

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>>15536836
Well?

>> No.15536841

>>15536836
I postedy physic inside your mum last nite

>> No.15536842

bros do you think we will ever defeat entropy?
the fact the universe will die some day makes me sad

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>baiting morning yurotard /sfg/
ok retard

>> No.15536862

>>15536853
Not my fault you fat cunts are the easiest bait in history

>> No.15536865

Elon should give the ISS a special Starlink receiver as a gift

>> No.15536867

>>15536491
>The goal is to replace as many battery applications as possible without strapping turbines and dorky gaseous-methane tanks to everything. For rovers in particular requiring onboard turbines would then require significant radiator
you're retarded. stationary storage matters. rovers will always have batteries.

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>>15536842
We will all die some day, anon.
It is the greatest curse and blessing of mankind.

>> No.15536878

>>15536637
>>15536654
>>15536667
>>15536677
>>15536681
>>15536688
>>15536694
>>15536699
>>15536703
>>15536710
>>15536741
pretending to be faggot is still being a faggot,
FAGGOT

>> No.15536883

>>15536870
>We will all die some day, anon.
i refuse

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>>15536862
Fuck off, it's burger time now, faggot.

>> No.15536902

>>15536893
Based burger, we're going to make sure the next individuals on the moon and POC and women, HOORAH

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>>15536893
> thin, blue-eyed blond White woman is America
laughed out loud

>> No.15536929

>>15536893
Drop that bitches skin tone by several brown degrees, drop the blue eyes, add ~100lbs and its about accurate

>> No.15536937

>>15536377
I wonder how easy wet workshopping a Starship would be. NASA has been alergic to the idea for years but it's hard to tell if that was due to actual difficulty of the concept or political issues.

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One image post and I'm getting higher quality (You)s than baitboy, without even trying.

>> No.15536941

>>15536917
Go hose down your dumpsterfire of a capitol city, France.

>> No.15536948

>>15536937
>durr we just chop into pressurised cryogenic toxic fuel tanks to make le international space station 9000 hurr praise Elon fuck god

Retard

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>>15536941
Taken a trip to DC lately? Don't have enough laughing suicidal pepes for my reaction

>> No.15536961

>>15536948
>pressurised cryogenic toxic fuel tanks
are you retarded?

>> No.15536971

>>15536948
>pressurised
Vent the tanks into vacuum before operating on them.
>cryogenic
They would be empty.
>toxic
Methane and oxygen are not toxic.

>> No.15536973

>>15536948
>open valve to space
>watch ullage and remaining cryogens escape by themselves
>fill with 1 bar atmosphere
simple as

>> No.15536995

>>15536940
I can't wait to see what kinds of large-scale payloads that'll be possible with Starship. Better telescopes, larger probes, or actual space industry. The future is looking bright.

>> No.15537006

>>15536940
Government limited space activity hasn't changed, enjoy your artemis accords and never being able to exploit in situ resources for the cause of science

>> No.15537011

>>15537006
delusional

>> No.15537014

>>15537011
Yeah try mining artemis accords celestial bodies bro

>> No.15537021

>>15537014
Those accords are going out the window the moment a major power can set up a permanent habitat beyond LEO.

>> No.15537026

>>15537021
>durr durr durr headcanon delusions

ok

>> No.15537032

>>15537014
you're stupid. what part of the artemis accords do you think prohibits this?
>>15537026
reddit

>> No.15537041

>>15537032
Are you capable of reading a document newfag?

>> No.15537043

>>15537041
Kek >>15537041

>> No.15537047

>>15537026
The accords were made while there are no large long term settlements nor industry in space. It'll be like writing laws to regulate long distance air travel before the Wright brothers made their first flight.

>> No.15537052

>>15537043
Average e*rther intellectual post

>> No.15537061

BUILD THE FUCKING ROCKETS
>but le internet town sq-
BUILD THE FUCKING ROCKETS

>> No.15537065

>>15537047
>wordswordswords

Your space corpo shit is going to be sanctioned by the USSF if you start exploiting the virgin science rocks. There is valuable scientific data that you can't just mine for capitalist profits.

>> No.15537070

>>15537061
I wish there were more amateur rocket clubs that were more than just estes kits.

>> No.15537071

>>15537065
You have to go back

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https://www.space.com/artemis-2-jeremy-hansen-canada-on-moon

>> No.15537074

>>15537071
Take a reality check on your shit voting system retard

>> No.15537076

>>15537065
Are you so dull that a mere two sentences overwhelm you?

>> No.15537078

>>15537074
>>15537071

>> No.15537081
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10 years today since inverted proton

>> No.15537083

>>15537076
Not an argument, you don't get to exploit pristine resources for your personal profit. Thankfully our elected representatives will stop this madness.

>> No.15537084

>>15537073
We're gonna get Canadarm on the moon aren't we?

>> No.15537089

>>15537081
Russia's alcoholism is so bad that even their rockets are drunk at work.

>> No.15537099

>>15537081
Пpoтoнtards cant into angular velocity sensors

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE1K_V3v4PU

>> No.15537116

>>15537110
nice

>> No.15537118

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwKHPG3g-3g

>> No.15537119

>>15537078
See>>15537076

>> No.15537124

total baiter and replier death

>> No.15537132

>>15537124
Hey man I'm just getting dopamine hits, your reddit repliers are low IQ and high EQ

>> No.15537135

>>15537081
Happy 10th anniversary of your death spiral, r*ssian space industry!
May all your future launch vehicles be EARTHERS like this Proton-M.

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What a brutal mogging

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

the large plate is below the OLM now, still vertical

>> No.15537159

>>15537149
While the US is mogging the rest of the world in launches, this plot is a little bit misleading. Starlink will inflate the payload count. A better representation would be total payload tonnage. The launch industry needs to launch more mass into space rather than just more payloads.

>> No.15537160

>>15537152
>the large plate is below the OLM now, still vertical
When did that happen? And where is it?

>> No.15537163

>plate watchers
How many more weeks

>> No.15537164

>>15537152
i don't see a plate
>MANGA

>> No.15537171

>>15537160
I might have mistaken the concrete as the plate
they started moving it last night, the plate itself is probably outside the camera, has to be moved

start moving at 17min about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXpQCQ0l14U

>> No.15537192

>>15536596
>58 launches using only 4 boosters
Damn that is wild, I wonder if they will find the upper limit of reuse with the F9 before Starship gets going.

>> No.15537205

>>15537159
>Starlink will inflate the payload count.
SpaceX still mogs the hell out of everyone if you remove the starlink launches.
>A better representation would be total payload tonnage.
I agree, and organizing tonnage to space pushes SpaceX even further ahead of everyone else.

>> No.15537220

>>15534072
always concerned about the fact that if the moon was turned into a giant forest and like 10 cities, it would increase the reflection of light from the moon thus making nights warmer and brighter. This could harm sleep and farming crops. Mars is better

>> No.15537249

>>15536893
I fuckin love this country

>> No.15537267
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When Artemis II comes around I hope we can get see SLS, Starship, Falcon, New Glenn and Vulcan on their pads at the same time, would be so kino

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>>15537249

>> No.15537284

>>15537249
Time for another $15 Big Mac HOORAH

>> No.15537297

>>15537273
>You're going over to the metric system and the systems that took you to the moon were made by gentlemen who used the metric system
No wonder you haven't made it back since 1972.

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>>15537249
me too

>> No.15537315

>>15536491
the main issue chemical fuel cells are facing here on earth is waste heat management, and you're arguing for them on mars?

>> No.15537412

>>15537149
what's that late 90s US spike?

>> No.15537424

>>15534243
I believe he's pointing at Boogie (the beast of the Apocalypse)

>> No.15537432

>>15535872
Neat

>> No.15537436

>>15536274
Now I want it to succeed just to see the first BLM riot in space

>> No.15537441

>>15536467
>until governments finally let the colonists use fission reactors
That's actually not the biggest hurdle right now
Truth is, there are simply no reactors under 150 tons and there won't be any available. At least no sooner than mid-late 2030s.
Except Kilopower, but that's got absolutely abysmal performance and astronomical cost

>> No.15537444 [DELETED] 

>>15536402
Haha, which of exhaust velocity and mass fraction doesn't scale?

>> No.15537445

>>15536274
Oh look, KOMINTERN 2.0

>> No.15537484

f9 has has more consecutive successful landings than the best success streak of any orbital rocket

>> No.15537491

>>15537484
nope

>> No.15537494

>>15537484
I only wish they can finally sort the Raptors out so SS can go to Space too

>> No.15537503

>>15537491
yes, prove me wrong?

>> No.15537507

>>15537503
soyuz

>> No.15537510

>>15537441
just build a new reactor.
the laws of physics doesn't require it to be heavier than 150 tons.

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>>15537507
even if you lump all variants together (which is as dumb as lumping pre-block 5 F9) it's not true. They've never had a 200+ launch streak

>> No.15537581

>>15537510
No, but it is an utter pain in the ass to get the parts to the colony given how expensive the parts that have to be specially made to stand up to fission reactions and corrosive sCO2 coolant would be. Not to mention procuring the initial fuel and securing it against red tape and CIA paid aloha snackbars

>> No.15537609

nuclear waste on the Mars is a literal non-issue

>> No.15537610
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At some point SpaceX will mainly be an internet service provider, and rockets is just a side hustle

>> No.15537613

>>15537610
I hate ISPs and the direction SpaceX started heading in recently is worrying me

>> No.15537624

>>15537609
Think of the Martians in 100.000 years that will be digging that stuff up hundreds of meters underground, chud

>> No.15537631

>>15537624
the surface of Mars is already so irradiated a few radioactive casks will barely make a difference

>> No.15537636
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15537636

https://twitter.com/mcrs987/status/1675546939469844480

>> No.15537673

>>15537636
>very little people are probably gonna see this lol
this is delusional. twitter is buzzing right now i've been doomscrolling all day and not rate limited.
i think they changed it to not count replies or smth

>> No.15537701

>>15536893
>Japanese cartoon
>German burger
>Israeli corn syrup juice
>Costume made in China

>> No.15537760
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15537760

Imagine driving with this in your car kek. Hydrogen is the worst fucking fuel I swear

>> No.15537770

>>15536613
Five years (with Tintin A & B accounted for) from zero satellites to operating the majority of operational sats in orbit.

>> No.15537774

>>15536467
Flywheel modules.

>> No.15537779

>>15537636
these people dont know shit, why are you posting them

>> No.15537784

>>15537220
>increase the reflection of light
No? Introducing systems and biology to the moon that absorb and utilize sunlight would reduce the energy imparted to Earth from reflected light. Regardless, the amount of energy from moonlight is basically negligible.

>> No.15537795

>>15535558
in short: no

>> No.15537796

>>15537412
Iridium and other comsat networks.

>> No.15537797

>>15537779
It is true. I wouldn't have otherwise bothered to see how many rings higher the QD is.

>> No.15537803
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>>15537636
The hotstaging through tiny holes was always ridiculous.

Total stupidity

>> No.15537804

>>15537803
what are the holes for?

>> No.15537807

>>15537804
;)

>> No.15537811

>>15537636
Dont have the twitter rate budget for the posts lmao.

>> No.15537812

>>15537804
Idk, not for raptor exhaust gas, probably something to do with HLS.

>> No.15537838

>>15537303
That looks so cozy

>> No.15537855
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>>15537701
As American as apple pie

>> No.15537857

>>15536893
Why does this image cause so much seething

>> No.15537870
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>>15537857
Moon envy

>> No.15537874

I an perfectly content knowing that Germans caused the moon landing

>> No.15537880

>>15537874
They were Americans

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>>15537880
if it makes you feel better

>> No.15537897

>>15537779
its content

>> No.15537903
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>>15537882
>if it makes you feel better
it's fact

>> No.15537911

How do we store power from lightning?

>> No.15537912

>>15537797
yeah and last week it was the holes ring was true, and then before that it was that swiss cheese ring. these people are all faggots pulling shit out their ass

>> No.15537931

>>15537911
Stratospheric blimps every square mile. Or wow about you just harvest the wind.

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>>15537636
>my current theory

>> No.15538003
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15538003

https://web.archive.org/web/20230131173552/https://fireflyspace.com/alpha/
https://web.archive.org/web/20230227062430/https://fireflyspace.com/alpha/
Firefly Alpha payload capacity on its website dropped from 745kg to 630kg to 500km SSO. Also changed 1170kg to 200km LEO to 1030kg to 300km.

>> No.15538016
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>>15538003

>> No.15538019

>>15537911
Lightning strikes contain ~1 billon joules per strikes. Which sounds a lot, but its roughly equivalent to 3 Tesla Model S battery packs worth of energy.

Given the extremely limited way of catching/harnessing lightning and the extremely limited rate of power, money being thrown out the toilet is a better net energy producer.

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I think this is new

>> No.15538027

>>15537149
Why don't other countries try

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>>15538016
a bit different way to show the data now too even if the figures seem to be same now as in feb 27

>> No.15538035

>>15538019
what are the chances of a lightning strike spontaneously charging my Tesla model E then?

>> No.15538040

>>15538016
>>15538028
The changes to the fairing width and/or second stage ate 110 kg of payload capacity? That's quite a bit on a system that small.

>> No.15538045

Let's speculate on the Tesla Roadster SpaceX package

>> No.15538085

>>15538035
1 in infinite, model E doesnt exist for Tesla. If you mean model 3, then it would be 1 in 10 trillion+. The low rate of lightning discharge + the low number of model 3 + the low chance of cars being hit + the low chance of the car being model 3, etc etc

>> No.15538087

>>15538045
The one supposed to feature composite overwrapped pressure vessel tanks for cold gas thrusters that enable you to crush the opposition?

>> No.15538092

>>15538026
Love the not-a-dragon it’s got docked to it lol

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https://planetocracy.substack.com/p/mass-value-report-for-june-2023

>> No.15538160

Edward "gigaton space nuke" Teller

>> No.15538164

>>15537855
You mean as strudel

>> No.15538186

>>15537760
Have to sacrifice a small animal to the copv gods every time you want to go for a drive

>> No.15538193

>>15538164
*ass strudel

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when are we ever going to build a spaceship in space?

>> No.15538214

STAGING

>>15538211
>>15538211
>>15538211
>>15538211

>> No.15538229

>>15538035
seriously, besides Frankenstein, has anyone tried to harvest the power of lightning? I know it is a huge impulse to eat all at once, but I wonder if we have the technology to absorb a lightning strike into a battery farm now.

>> No.15538472

>>15538127
seriously wtf happened in 2019

>> No.15538485

>>15538472
That was probably when they got caught up with the global launch market, but hadn't yet got starlink launches going.