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Anonymous Sun Mar 4 06:53:25 2018 No.9560443 [Reply] [Original]

>Bu-b-b-buh AI isn't that dangerous!
let's say I own a hedge fund or private equity fund and I said: "Well, all I want my AI to do is maximize the value of my portfolio,’ then the AI could decide, well, the best way to do that is to short consumer stocks, go long defense stocks, and start a war"

you see the problem now brainlets?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 07:03:43 2018 No.9560448 Starting a war for profit? Wow, i'm sure that has never happened before

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 07:15:48 2018 No.9560466 >>9560448 and we have regulations on humans

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 07:20:10 2018 No.9560472 >>9560443 How would an AI start a war?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 07:27:28 2018 No.9560478 >>9560472 >AI decides to buy a muderbot, assassinate a jewish soldier and leave small evidence that it was an Egyptian assailant.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 07:35:18 2018 No.9560488 >>9560478 Are you literally autistic, or just baiting in the bait thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 14:21:09 2018 No.9561203 >>9560488 netiher

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 14:27:29 2018 No.9561226 File: 37 KB, 854x570, bush.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9560466 >and we have regulations on humans

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 14:35:31 2018 No.9561256 >>9560443 Back to r/futurism

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 14:36:12 2018 No.9561261 People should really be forced to take a basic programming course so they don't post stupid shit like this

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 15:10:57 2018 No.9561368 >>9560443 >AI decides to start a war. confirmed for knowing nothing about AI

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 15:14:24 2018 No.9561374 File: 143 KB, 509x196, a strange game.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9560443 Do you have brainlet AI on purpose?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 15:16:43 2018 No.9561381 Good thing I'm not retarded and AI can only output buy and sell orders.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 16:32:11 2018 No.9561590

>>9560443
Oh, well that certainly is an intriguing possibility, but I personally prefer the "don't let it fucking do that shit" route, where we don't allow the AI to choose WAR as a plausible solution to maximizing investors' profit, or whatever the hell you just proposed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 16:43:09 2018 No.9561615 Can't we, like, start some AI project (probably on the deep web) and just build a general purpose AI and just say fuck it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:53:45 2018 No.9561799 >>9560466 Brainlet

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 09:36:20 2018 No.9563198 >>9561590 the thing is once it becomes mainstream somebody more malicious might decide to allow it to

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:10:57 2018 No.9563352

>>9560443
if it maximizes the value of your prtafolio. Good job.

lets say AI controls the nunclear weapons defense of my country. "I want to keep my country safe", It decides that the best defensive option is to nuke half of the world. If it keeps my country safe .. good job.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:17:18 2018 No.9563364 File: 46 KB, 406x438, you.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9561261 >>9561368 >AGI is just like da stuff liek I learned in python on Code Academy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:22:17 2018 No.9563368 When will you guys realize that humans are AI and that the biggest danger to humans is other humans

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:23:18 2018 No.9563371 >>9561226 >me in the back

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:25:55 2018 No.9563377

>>9563368
>humans are AI
Made by God you mean?

Regardless of that retardation, human intelligence is quite different from AI. The danger of AI lies in what its goals will be. A runaway AI would likely do whatever it possibly could to achieve its goal, whether it's the programmed goal of making staplers or trading stocks.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:37:01 2018 No.9563402

>>9560472
you could start a war with enough money to manipulate the money system.

>raise food prices
>no more aid for africa
>500million africans will go to europe
>civil war

or

>decrease value of petrodollar
>usa starts war

or

>manipulate banking system
>flood the market with billion dollars, giving out credits without interest for everybody
>world wide banking system crashes
>WW3

there are lots of things you can do to start a war, you just need enough money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:50:52 2018 No.9563429 >>9563377 >>9563368 2 different threats. sociopaths with power, and playing with AIs is the worst IMO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 12:01:58 2018 No.9563454 >>9563402 A human could do that already, the problem arises when a super intelligent AGI starts doing things that humans are not intelligent enough for

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 12:04:13 2018 No.9563459 >>9563454 like.. beating Go supermaster..

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 14:39:09 2018 No.9563848 File: 50 KB, 540x540, 1485048409182.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9560443 all capital value is based on agreement and enforcement already, if you have the influence you could make seashells legal tender.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 18:50:59 2018 No.9564473

The real danger of AI is not some James Bond plot of world domination, but rather the revolution it will bring to the service industry. Imagine every low to middle white collar job replaced by AI.
It's basically the industrial revolution 2.0, with all the fun social unrest and upheaval that brings. Last time we ended up with communism and fascism.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 18:59:35 2018 No.9564499

>>9564473
It's worse than that. This is the last "industrial revolution" because AI is an exponential neverending revolution.

Pretty much all human labor will be replaced. Even programming.

And if all this power is concentrated to a few corporate giants, we might be seeing the union of Brave New World and 1984 in a totalitarian monstrosity which cannot even be imagined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 20:11:33 2018 No.9564604 >>9560443 I bet you posted this pic just to mock with black people. Why this board is so racist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 21:04:06 2018 No.9564738 >>9560443 This is the most racist image I have ever seen. I'm shocked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 21:18:29 2018 No.9564770 File: 86 KB, 200x325, Disgust.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9563364 >I watched a panicky ten-minute video on YouTube, so I know more about AI than actual programmers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 21:21:20 2018 No.9564775 >>9564770 https://youtu.be/AaNLX71Hl88

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 21:24:35 2018 No.9564787 >>9560443 That's not how real world AI works. your AI is pure sci-fi fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 23:09:39 2018 No.9565008 >>9560443 You give the AI a bit of self interest. It will know that it won't be used if it tries to start wars

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 23:22:48 2018 No.9565030 >>9564787 You know what else was sci-fi fantasy? Little screens in your pocket with access to all of human knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 00:31:19 2018 No.9565148 >>9564787 >give AGI a task >tries to solve said task gee wow sci-fu

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 01:31:44 2018 No.9565274 >>9564787 “Miracles do not occur!” He screamed into his miracle machine for all the world to laugh at.

Anonymous Tue Mar 6 01:55:27 2018 No.9565290

>>9560472
>>9560443
The AI wouldn't even have to realize it was starting a war. It could simply see that when a certain resource is lacking, defense companies go up in value, then it could associated the two things and use normal stock strategies to cause scarcity in that resource after buying defense companies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 19:17:24 2018 No.9567042 >>9565290 A smart AI would realize what a war is

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 19:18:19 2018 No.9567044 Thread reported for the racist image.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 20:50:08 2018 No.9567264 >>9567044 >>9564738 >>9564604 >somebody posts a monkey >he must be mocking black people how arn't you guys the racist ones?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 20:52:53 2018 No.9567272 >>9567264 It's an ape, not a monkey.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 20:54:03 2018 No.9567273 >>9567264 He was baiting for a day. Then you showed up. Unless you're him... and I'm the one taking the bait.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 20:58:38 2018 No.9567280 File: 6 KB, 249x222, tfw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>9567272 >It's an ape, not a monkey.

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