/tg/ - Traditional Games

>>40318090
This is an awful idea. Alchemists can still use simple weapons and light armor, meaning their damage and AC are going to be better than if they were a 2nd level monk anyway. No flurry, but unless you're rocking a massive wisdom on your int alchemist when that's normally one of your lowest stat priorities, you would be losing a lot of AC, having to drink mage armor potions etc., and losing out on two levels in your primary class so your bomb damage would be lower, less times per day, fewer and weaker formulae, etc.


Halfling is a strong pick for alchemist. Bonus to thrown weapons, dex bonus, size bonus to hit and AC, and you don't really need good strength. If you're stabbing things with a longspear, you're pretty much out of tricks.

Also, while kobold is a weaker choice mechanically, I support more kobold PCs.

>>40312846
cute story bro

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Never change, /tg/

>>40312846
Threatening to shoot someone is bad because it leaves the choice with the opponent. Would you complain this much if he played temporal extortion?

This is related to the subject of Warhammer 40k video games, but I have come to the conclusion that Dawn of War II, and squad based rts' like Dow II, cannot be balanced for multiplayer. The game's inherently capped at a casual level because of terrible design choices and shitty ai.

Cover, a core component of the game doesn't work because only 3/4ths of a squad will go into cover after being told to. Three man squads are OK, but if it's bigger than a tac squad, the ai will send one or two units to stand in the open despite there being ample room to stand in cover. The worst part is, units are often confused as to whether or not they want to stand in heavy cover like a wall, or the medium cover of the crater one foot away from the wall.

Sync kills were rebalanced later in the game's lifespan, but are still appalling. An overly long animation for melee kills, stops the individual unit from doing anything until the animation is finished. This causes units to cease doing damage in the middle of a fight, and often leaves the units vulnerable to additional fire when pulling a unit back.

Holy shit pathing is bad in this game. Always assume that your units will always move in the most detrimental way possible.

Melee units having random chances to knock down things they attack, and ranged miss chance being as high as it is, makes "hard counters" like missle tacs a joke until they hit level four. I don't mind RNG as a balancing mechanic in turn based games, because it adds variety, but in a real time game it's unforgivable, and it throws any semblance of balance out of the window.

I've been playing since before any expansions, and I can no longer have fun with the multiplayer, I keep getting burned by the horrible game design. Not even the massive multiplayer overhaul mod Elite could save the unplayable multiplayer because the game is flawed at it's most basic levels.

>>40339988
Can't argue with that.

>>40330569
LETZ KRUMP IM DEN!

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>>40314828
Would they eat fish? I was more thinking that they consumed massive amounts of plankton, diatoms, and other such things, or are total omnivors.

There could be one Dwarven Hold left. Entrance is the peak of a mountain and it goes deep into the earth.

Magic runes be such are used up keep the water out and the air breathable deep. But they don't mine much anymore there,. Their primary industries are ship building (big metal ones), salvage repair, and deep sea mining operations

This is done by huge diving bells, special prospectors, and modified mining equipment. All of this is housed on zogoff huge mobile mining rigs

>>40314931
They could eat either small fish or small crustacea like a fantasy Krill equivalent, but again its your world; they could eat bull sharks if you wanted a more dramatic species.

I think making them out to be hazards that are more blind animals that are strong enough to destroy a ship out of accident or curiosity would be fun, but if you want combat encounter potential you can make them eat larger things like Dolphins, making humans an easy substitute they would go after.

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>>40312931
>the park has a trained leviathan
>more accurately, most of the park is a trained leviathan
>the buildings are held on its back by a giant harness

>>40317919
because stacked status would absolutely change the game dynamic, everyone use safeguard first turn to avoid getting shit on. you keep acting like through GM fiat you can gust away any status because bullshit.

>>40317992
>everyone use safeguard first turn to avoid getting shit on
cept I just proved you don't have to.

And no, Gust won't work on everything, but everything will have it's own counters. It's up to us to both prepare properly and to think on our feet and adapt as they come.

>>40318016
it's going to turn the fucking quest into Acquisitions Inc. tier bullshit GM fiats to avoid getting blown the fuck out by Toxic+sleep

>>40318034
Wrong.

>>40318034
>Actually following Acquisitions Inc

You Filth

>>40314102
Fuck no, you got a smoke?

>>40314102
Breathe fire

Final (2/2) Bump before thread abandoned to 404. Will monitor until 404, though.

Still here, friends.

saged for politeness

>>40312232
Already a thread up, fuckwit.


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I’m one with the warrior inside
My dominance can’t be denied
Your entire world will turn
Into a battlefield tonight
As I look upon you through
The warrior’s eyes now
I can see the fear that will
Ensure my victory this time

I can't be told to compromise this
They'll never doubt the body lying at my feet
A most formidable reminder
They will speak my name for eternity
I have no need of any guidance
I am a weapon powerful beyond belief
Seen through the warrior’s eyes
I never need to question how to defeat you

>>40312156

I take it you didn't hear about the retcon? BT are now okay with psykers, codex adherent and a little over 1k members strong.

>>40317638
if that's true, im super happy. if not i hope they take the bait.

>>40311932
Oh, Jesus shit. I hope they don't have a rogue.
oh, wait, rogues are shit.

Can someone please post the wizard CYOA?

>>40366016
This
>>40364259 fuckin be a man and a contributor and make some DAMN WIZARD OC

>>40366043
>the wizard CYOA
Which one?

new thread guys? i cant make it right now

>>40311914
I'd treat weapons more like 'classes', with their own individual sets of feats/tricks that come with them.

Sword and Shield: Dex. Very quick and repeated attacks.
Dual Swords: Dex. Demon mode adds to it.
Longsword: Combination of dex & str. It gets just dex initially, but upon getting its 'keen' modes also adds str.
Hammer: Combination of dex & str
Greatsword: str (with multipliers for charge attacks?)
Gunlance: Con. Flat rate or maybe int/wis for its gunshots.
Lance. Con + Int/wis.
Switch axe: Str + Int/wis
Hunting Horn: cha + int/wis
Charge blade: Str + Int
Light bowgun: Dex + int/wis
Medium bowgun: Dex + int/wis
Heavy bowgun: Str + Dex + int/wis.

I'm sure I've missed some weapons, but in general the idea is that certain weapons can draw from multiple stats when playing optimally, but otherwise only get a single stat.

>>40313161

Are you taking into account various styles of use (and by various I mean two) such as evade lancing?

>>40313161
Wheres the Bow?

How will you be balancing the 4 styles that are announced in Monster Hunter X(cross)?

>>40317931
Not at all until the game is released.

>>40370558
>I can do better.
poor, deluded anon

>>40356950
Whats that comic about?

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>>40370831
Bump, please!

>>40311871
>dm introduces significant NPC
>flirts with female pcs, adequate husbando material
>then proceeds to cockblock female PC who's mildly sweet on him
Give her the D, Emperordammit.

>>40312394

If the D don't want, the D don't gotta give.

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Blade Runner's usually called a cyberpunk thing and it's heavy on the sci fi. Big problem with the genre cyberpunk is that it's sci fi which means that it bleeds in with the others easily.

>>40316197

I like it :) love the body analogy you do for the city

>>40332336
I just replaced it with the editted version. You should skim it and tell me if I'm doing enough.

>>40329190
Red Star Winter Orbit was all about living on a space station, and was written by gibson and sterling. If that doesn't make it a staple of cyberpunk nothing will

I'm going to bump this thread, and also direct you guys to this cyberpunk world building thread >>40307951

>>40311776
A perfectly ordinary job. Go in, loot the place, come back, give the guild their cut. The one hitch, that they don't discover until they've taken the job and got to the street in question - a riot has flared up. It involves both dwarves and trolls, but this time, it's different: they're complaining about some issue that affects both of them (possibly dwarves are being investigated in the outfall of a recent dwarf drug ring that was selling EXTREMELY pure drugs to trolls?). Shenanigans ensue.

The Thief's Guild catches wind of the activities of the Guild of Repossessors, and goes "hold on - that's burglary! Unsanctioned burglary!" Shenanigans ensue.

One of the really, REALLY old denizens of the city (possibly undead), bored with his (or her) life (or unlife) decides to join the Watch, and enforces laws which no-one's heard about for centuries (like the one about no-one going around armed with a halibut). Shenanigans ensue.

The party repossesses the contents of a house, then the deceases owner comes to the guild to complain - they're now a zombie, and didn't manage to dig themself out of the grave until the party had already repossessed the contents of the house. Shenanigans ensue.

A new member of the guild arrives, having misunderstood the name. This ghost goes around trying to find recently vacated houses and literally inhabits them. Shenanigans ensue.

The Guild of Repossessors starts putting jobs up relating to people the Guild of Assassins have recently inhumed. The Guild of Assassins takes offense to this, starts putting up contracts of its own on anyone who actually takes these jobs. Unfortunately, these jobs are not marked, and the party takes one. Shenanigans ensue.

An argument starts in the guild as to exactly what constitutes the contents of a house, when it comes to light that no-one can get a recently deceased troll out of his house. Do his teeth count as possessions or part of him?

>>40312229
These are all fantastic. I do enjoy the idea of the Guild of Assassins messing with them by putting up contracts for members of the Repo-guild. This should turn up some even bigger shennanigans as the party has already gone full-Murderhobo. They literally just kill-on-sight anyone in the houses, assuming they're trespassing and trying to take the stuff.

Nevermind that the city's definition of suicide is really wonky, and that in the case of the house made by Johnson, the resident was still alive and well, but got his skull caved in by the party. Along with all of the friends he had in for the group for playing an RPG.

"You see a bunch of robed people crowded around a table, there's some kind of board on the table that they're chanting around."

Investigator: "I roll spellcraft to figure out what they're casting" -rolls a Nat-1

me, "You think they're chanting something to summon a big damn demon!"

"FUCK! I shoot them with my crossbow!"

>>40316708

See, wouldn't the lack of disease make populations in your average D&D world much larger? It would be inaccurate to say a D&D world isn't advanced: medically, they blow us out of the water, even if they struggle with any weapon more complex then the musket.

>>40316945
>wouldn't the lack of disease make populations in your average D&D world much larger?
D&D settings mostly don't look like plausible extrapolations of "middle age + monsters + magic". They're just backdrops to tell stories in.

>>40311683
They got their asses kicked in a long-term scale. It's the military, they cannot into thinking and diplomacy.

>>40311549
Twilight 2000/2013.

The characters learn new skills (and improve in the old ones) really slowly and even as they do that their gear slowly wears down. Due to the post-apocalyptic setting any gear that they find is likely to be in equally poor condition so they can't get any powercreep from better equipment either.

I think this game would accomplish your goals quite well as the average Twilight game turns into former soldiers tilling the soil on a farm in the middle of nowhere so that they can make alcohol. They need the alcohol as fuel for cars and generators.

>>40311605
>WoD: Hunter
Someone doesn't play with power-gamers. 10xp and the dude fired 22 dice per round.

>>40311549
What kind of games? I see a lot of RPG related answers, but I would have assumed CCG (as they powercreep the most even when they cycle.)

>>40317146
OP here, I mean rpgs and I think I should add some context
I got into tabletops like some months ago but I've only played pathfinder. I'm more interested in role-playing than rollplaying and I'm just happy with just a weapon and armor so I'm very foreign to the other players making these snowflakes with lots of powers and magical items.
Another factor is that I've never read any fantasy fiction so I'm really indifferent to epic battles, monster and all the things fantasy geeks find fun
So I'm basically looking for a system that keeps things simple and narrow.

>>40318535
Your problem isn't the system, it's the people you play with.

It sounds like you wana play smaller more self-contained character-driven stories and all your friends want to play Skyrim.

Systems that include high power levels aren't necessarily counter-productive to good stories. Harry potter is a universe with magic that told a good story... and so is Madoka Magica despite the power level being 1,000 times higher.
High power only becomes counter productive when you get people who grew up on videogames and think stat progression is the only meaningful progression.

Slightly related video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg_Lp5bO1U8

>>40312032
My campaigns dorfs are Jamaican

>>40315850
Look at him. He looks pretty amazing.

>>40316230
They usually tend to be like the kind of people I like, why not have them be chill.

>>40312040
Only the White Man has the finesse, the cunning and the will to be proper villains, likeable villains, non-strawman villains, badguys you can trully say 'fuck yeah, sign me in into your Legion of Doom'.
A story is as good as it villain is and there is no villain like the white villain.

>>40312868
Well I think orcs eat raw meat too.

>>40334645
Ya, that was what I was going for. Being a tank, it would be more handy to have a shield to channel magic than a fancy sword. Anyone I block a hit from is automatically in direct line of my next spell.

>>40334645
>not wanting a shieldblade

>>40333893
Speaking as a fellow tank, it might be good to invest in some more damaging abilities, you have to be threatening enough that the enemies would want to focus you, otherwise they'd just ignore you and go for your teammates.

New Thread

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>>40334166
I don't see why I should fight. My character is pretty entitled and this war effort ain't some charity he's looking forward to.

Get some rewards in there.