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Why weren't 1st person view JRPGs more popular on consoles? I think they look very cool. I only know of Phantasy Star 1 and SMT, and Phantasy Star immediately abandoned 1st person dungeons after 1. I think I saw some games like this on Japanese computers, but that's about it. Did Dragon Quest forever kill the 1st person view?

>>9539445
that it would

>>8750725
just do a little grinding around some safe spots where you can recover you HP. when things get hard you just do a little leveling up.
originally i've played this on the console, but on the emulator I did the XP farming with increased speed.

>>8359881
>Remember also that this is a Super Famicom title from the early 90's and it feels like a massive story and setting with massive buildings.
And compare it to Megami Tensei and Phantasy Star a few years earlier and the Wizardry remakes on the same console too

>>8288712
Man I fucking loved the first-person dungeon crawling in PS1.

>>8183365
A game like Phantasy Star would look amazing with this engine. Of course you're not going to run Quake 3 with this engine. Go be a zoomer somewhere else.

>>7465017

A friend of mine worked at a Roppongi strip joint Naka visited often, and I just found out the other day that while fetching Naka's coat he accidentally dropped it, and Naka wasn't pleased. He was kind of a dick apparently. Still, he did the Phantasy Star dungeon programming, so he's alright in my book.

>>7427461

He programmed the Phantasy Star scrolling dungeons which were hot shit at the time. But yeah, he's overrated.

>>6561257
>pitfalls
>stairs

if you're mapping correctly you won't lose track of your position if you're traveling upwards or downwards, simply start a new sheet and continue on from the same square as the previous sheet.

It's surprising how well Phantasy Star holds up, especially that soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnQz9njOPXg

Name a better 1st person dungeon traversal animation.
Protip: you can't.

>>6315573
Eh, maybe and maybe not. You might like 'em, but they're difficult to compare all right. If you like the early Wizardry (1-3,5) and M&M (just 1&2) games then you might see similarities in early DQ and FF. Since you're obviously comfortable with first person dungeoning I'd recommend Phantasy Star (1) as a better introduction to classic JRPGs. It's got plenty of oldschool RPG feel with exploration and open endedness and a hell of a lot better presentation than any RPG on a Nintendo console would for at least 9 years.

>>5655638
It's funny that you're full of shit, m8.

>>5159527
> if not then isn't there a romhack that does both?
There is a retranslation based on the Japanese rom which does FM sound by default, yeah. This is the one: http://www.smspower.org/Translations/PhantasyStar-SMS-EN

Up until now this has easily been THE definitive way to play the game. Maybe it has competition now, I don't know. It's still a very good option and it's free. It's still the way I'd go with personally, but that's me innit.

>>5129771
>And on PC it can be hard to play offline.
Torrenting and running both PSU version 1 and AOTU is pretty basic and painless, I do not recall having any trouble getting them running in offline mode when I played a couple of years back. Anybody reporting trouble with them may have gone full retard and tried starting the online modes. As for Clementine, it's a mere curiosity at this point. Let's not accidentally make anybody believe it's actually playable.

Though even bringing up PSO and PSU in a classic Phantasy Star thread seems a bit odd, really.

>>4472881
This was the first ever rpg I played. Absolutely swallowed me up as a kid, I hadn't played anything like it. Plus there was internet of fuckall back then so I feel pretty proud about completing that game all by myself. I wouldn't have that level of commitment or determination for anything in my life now.

Up until recently I still have the dungeon theme as my alarm.

https://youtu.be/KCfbQHcKV6Y

>>4417043
They're both pretty pleb tier compared to the true king of 80's RPGs.

>>4318750
If you're going to count SMT then Phantasy Star 1 counts as well. It's got a great spacey sci-fi with fantasy elements setting.

>>4298394
PS1 is pretty hard with that level cap and those dungeons.

>>4280931
You rock OP! Damn PS1 is an awesome game. It feels a whole generation beyond DQ or FF1 were.

>>4151940
>PS1's first person thing needs to be scraped in favor of traditional movement.
Look at this homo erectus.

>>4055974
I honestly don't think there is a single 2D game that matches the PPS dungeon scrolling. Pretty shocking, considering so many other dungeon games run on better hardware.

>>4055601
>he needs maps!
I really don't get this. I don't have a great sense of direction and I can get through the game just fine mapless. Getting lost is half the fun!