/vr/ - Retro Games

>plays game made in Japan
>shocked, offended and dismayed when it turns out to have Japanese cultural references

>>10921928
But the woman saying that line is not even Japanese

>>10921878
Shadow Hearts 1 and specially 2 (haven't played 3) are quite comedic and there's nothing wrong with that.
If you want to play Japanese game with more serious plots, try Final Fantasy Tactics TWOTL or Valkyrie Profile instead.

>>10921938
>You: But how woudl you feel if you weren't Japanese?
>Game Developer: I don't understand the question, I am Japanese.

>>10921878
Why did you play the sequel first

>>10922030
Emulation issues with pcsx2, could never get it to work. It's finally running okay on the latest nightly release

>>10922030
he is a poser faggot,
SH2 is a poser-core game shilled as ''le one of le best JRPG on le PS2!!!'' the shills also make sure you spam pics of the red headed whore MC to trick coomers too

>>10922061
are you capable of speaking like a human being or is the /v/ brainrot too deep?

>>10922063
says the faggot using the word ''hijinks''

>>10922079
Hijinks is in the Oxford Dictionary
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/hijinks
Posercore and coomers are not
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/spellcheck/english/?q=posercore
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/spellcheck/english/?q=coomers

>>10922083
>Oxford Dictionary
irrelevant, english is an american language

>>10922061
>that word vomit

Is the first game worth playing?
Also, is Koudelka worth playing?

>>10922096
Koudelka is an interesting horror-JRPG hybrid game, definetely worth playing but beware the battle movement and animations are SLOW you may want to turn on the turbo if you are on emulator
Shit Farts 1 is a linear slop with edgy protagnist (in a chessy way) and your side kick is boring and bland, don't waste your time on it

>>10922101
Oh look at anon here with the refined taste. What are YOUR favorite JRPGs then?

>>10922101
>linear
>bad
You need to be over 18 to post here

I dare all jarpig fags to name one jrpg with good writing and story

>>10922103
SMT series
>>10922105
i bet you think FF13 was good

>>10922107
>one
I'll even give you three
Xenosaga Episode I: Der Wille zur Macht
Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Böse
Xenosaga Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra

>>10922113
Xenosaga is a movie game trilogy not a JRPG
>>10922107
Persona 2

>>10922112
FF13 is bad but not because it's a corridor. Open world games are far worse, they're unfocused and horribly boring

>>10922115
>open world is....LE BAD
oh look we have a wild /v/ontrarian here

>>10922107
Persona 3

>>10922119
>anon really thinks this is the pinnacle of gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDOZGqsTCgw

>>10921878
the ost is indeed darker and better. game's mood too, but as a jrpg is a lot rougher than covenant.

>>10922124
name one bad open world JRPG

>>10922132
Any Atelier game

>>10922131
The mood is the exact same if not worse since at least in Covenant Yuri's dialogue isn't just marvel quips since he's mourning Alice. I guess I'll do what >>10921974 and try Valkyrie Profile soon, I really wanted a serious RPG

>>10922148
if you cant tell the mood is darker you're either autistic or retarded. the humour is sh is just a way to break the tension, you fuckin cretin. just stick to pretentious hollow chuunige shit like xeno or vp, they fit you better.

>>10922139
he said bad

>>10922160
>chuunige
>xeno
>vp
says the anon who thinks SH isn't chuunibyou

>>10922160
You really need to replay the game if you somehow remember it so differently

>>10922164
there's little chuni in sh, its forte lies in the down to earth story, chars, themes and general presentation. of course you have to give it some concessions, it's still a fantasy jrpg after all.

>>10922107
Final Fantasy Tactics

>>10922160
The tone is darker in Covenant, at least when Joachim isn't on screen. Everyone's grieving over something or someone they lost and you can feel that in the atmosphere.
SH1 has the feeling of a wacky adventure, just with more blood, ghosts and skulls.

>>10922172
play it until the end, it gets darker as it goes on. it's like 20h, one of the shortest jrpg on ps2. i wonder where they got the big budget for covenant.

>>10922178
he said good writting

>>10922096
2 really is the peak of the series. Koudelka is an extremely different tone and gameplay experience and is worth exploring, but if it’s not your thing don’t force yourself through it, there are story connections but nothing that important. SH1 has a great atmosphere, but gameplay wise it’s many steps back from 2. Tone wise it’s a bit darker. Whether you prefer that or not is totally to taste. It’s worth a play through though if you want to play 2, it’s essentially a direct sequel.
3 builds on 2s gameplay and in that regards is really good. The story is pretty lighthearted and goofy, it’s no longer horror, it’s comedy with horror imagery sprinkled in. I liked it, but I could see people hating it for being too different.

Söy HRT was never good
the gameplay is irredeemable garbage solely because of that clock mechanic shit, literally worse than QTE's in a turnd based game (for exmaple in Legend Of Dragoon)

>>10922181
sh1 is more fatalistic than covenant. covenant is a story of redemption, and this make the whole game intrinsically less brooding.

>>10922207
>literally worse than QTEs
There's contrarianism and there's delusion, you're not supposed to go over the line

>>10922208
On that we can agree.

>>10922213
the clock shit actually counts as QTE anyway, every single move you make you are forced to do this shitty QTE to determine the effectiveness of your attack, this shit is not a turn based RPG

Did they literally not translate half the battle quotes in SH1? Like with Margarete, when you use the Grenade move, you have her saying "I'm gonna need some help here" in a deeper voice and then in a cutesy voice she goes "sore~"

>>10921878
well you should play koudelka since is a prequel to shadow hearts.

>>10922231
it's called soul, sweetie.

>>10922096
Koudelka is a game that's very interesting. It's very unique and I like many parts of it. But it is weird to actually play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Eu_zij3Rz8

on a more serious note, i wonder if yurimanaged to bang alice before you know what

>>10922114
>Persona 2
Shame about the actual game part.

Fucking love this series (well the first two shadow hearts games anyway.)
Kato is a strangely compelling villain. I think SH2 is better than one overall in terms of originality. They took the bad ending of the first game (which overall was fairly generic) and turned Kato of all motherfuckers into a perfect thematic antagonist for Yuri.

>trying to play Koudelka because it's the predecessor to SH
>combat animations take a fucking year to play out
why

>>10922198
>1 is many steps back from 2

not enough alice rule 34 out there

>>10921878
Coincidentally, this is the part where I dropped the game when I tried to play it a couple years ago.

>>10922096
I played Koudelka twice. The second time, I used a cheat to deactivate the random encounters, and the experience was 1000 times more enjoyable because of it. I like the combat system on paper, but it is extremely slow to an exasperating degree in practice. Everything, from moving around to executing an attack, takes ages.

>>10921878
aside from gameplay, I never understood the appeal of this series apart from Koudelka.

>>10923184
To make matters worse, its prerendered backgrounds are worse than anything on ps1 even aside from maybe Parasite Eve 1.

To praise Koudelka for something, it was one of the few games back then that used motion capture for its cutscenes. The developers hired stage actors, if I recall correctly. This is why the animations look great and naturalistic. The atmosphere and sound design are also good, despite the background being messy in some areas. It's unfortunate that the gameplay is so atrocious, considering it has a lot going for it.

>>10924339
Also, little known fact: Yuji Iwahara first modelled Koudelka after Natalie Portman and Winona Ryder but later in the development, they had to simplify the design as the PlayStation tech had some restrictions.

>>10924339
>>10924341
I hate how the most visually interesting games, or games with the best presentation and atmosphere, typically have horrible gameplay.

>>10921878
SH1 is better not because its less comedic, but because its also more horror. The comedic angle started to overtake the horror by SH2. SH1 has a lot of silly shit, and works better off the horror backdrop.

I hope the good part is starting. So far it's been a tad boring.

>>10922061
>>10922079
>>10922092
I wish there existed a drug that allowed you to temporarily experience autism as severe as this Anon's autism.
Like, I just want to experience the world the way this extremely autistic retard experiences the world.

>>10922107
star ocean 3

>>10922092
Lmao why is it called English then retard?