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I too watch balding, privileged white man reminisce on the old days

>>5287234
Ugh, white men. Just saying the words gives you a gag reflex like you're about to puke.

>>5287234
>>5287298
STFU... You people are just awful.

>>5287318
How so?

What is this even a reference to? You crazy kids and your metubes and interwhatsits, I never have a clue whhat any of this rubbish means.

>>5288510
It's clearly just OP's opinion on Hydlide, fella. Don't read too much into it.

>>5286975
Stop recycling threads you cunt; shitty ones nonetheless
>>5288704
It's a quote.

>>5289027
From what?

>>5289568
The OP.

>>5289718
Oh, that makes sense.

https://vocaroo.com/i/s06yrWEXQORl

>>5290740
I think you could stand to pitch your voice just a little higher.

>Super Hydlide
>is on Genesis/Mega Drive
Explain this.

>>5291286
Wait until you hear where they put "Mega Hydlide; Genesis."

>>5286975
Literally only /mu/ can have AVGN threads

>>5291528
Why is that?

>>5292221
I'd like to know too.

I wish the Third Rate Gamer were still around

>>5293790
Plenty of third rate gamers around /vr/.

its like bad zelda

>>5294412
ALttP is like bad Zelda

>>5294428
ALttP IS bad Zelda.

>>5289568
An AVGN episode about Hydlide.

>>5290740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>5295246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGWEb5QxGA

>>5295257
Nice, but what does this have to do with this situation right here?

>>5295358
It shows that Tyrone is a virgin and his opinion cannot be trusted. You must listen to the chad Rog for advice. Here's some more helpful information from Rog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oVXpYbyp1o

>>5286975
VIRTUAL
HYDLIDE

>>5295382
>a commissioned video where the entirety of the words are thought and written by other people is somehow Tyrone's opinion
I'm currently laughing at you. Next you'll tell me it was just a bait, right?

>>5295415
>a bait
Nice English

>>5295419
Double layered bait, i see.

>>5295454
>i
Wow.

>>5295531
It's interesting that whenever some people don't know how to reply to a message they resort in attacking the form instead. It shows a lot of things.

>>5295568
YOU'RE interesting that whenever some people don't know how to reply to a message they resort in attacking the form instead. It shows a lot of things.

>>5295571
Your baits/jokes are getting very low effort with each new post. It's not funny anymore, i'm out of here.

>>5295568
>>5295618
>resort in
>baits
>i'm

I'm glad he retreated like a coward.

TOOTH

Hm, Hydlide. It really makes you think. Hm.

>>5295358
>>5295382
>>5295415
>>5295419
>>5295454
>>5295531
>>5295568
>>5295571
>>5295618
>>5295629
>>5296786
This is one of the most pathetic exchanges I've ever read on this site, and that's saying something. Not just this board, but this entire fucking site. I kept this thread open for two fucking days just to come back to this dogshit. I hope you both never return.

>>5299072
It really does.

>>5300252
Truly.

Whia...

Virtual Hydlide is like a precursor to all those randomizer games.

>>5302998
Randomizer games?

>>5303385
I'd guess he means procedural generation.

>>5303776
You mean like in Rogue?

>>5303786
What's that?

The game came out on JPCs before it was on the Famicom. It looks like a weird mix of Dragon Quest and Tower of Druaga and since it's only a 40k single bank game, it's naturally pretty simple and there isn't a whole lot to it.

The game came out on JPCs before it was on the Famicom. It looks like a weird mix of Dragon Quest and Tower of Druaga and since it's only a 40k single bank game, it's fairly simple and there isn't a whole lot to it. Also the single tune that plays throught the entire game is annoying.

My guess was they brought this three year old and outdated game to the US in 89 to compete with DQ1, although unlike the latter no attempt was made to update or enhance the audiovisuals.

>>5304748
I know about the other enhancements to Dragon Warrior, but I'm not aware of any audio changes in the localization.

>>5304778
Ok I'm exaggerating a little. The sound wasn't touched. The original 1986 release was 64k in size and used a CNROM (meaning you can switch around the CHR ROM in 8k blocks but the PRG ROM is fixed) and saves were password (also really fucking long).

When they localized DQ1 for North America, the game was bumped to 80k and an MMC1 mapper+battery save. The overworld graphics were touched up a bit and sprites could face in more than one direction. What's curious is that the US version has a 64k PRG ROM but the CHR ROM was actually shrunk to 16k. This is despite the added sprite patterns and more space-consuming English dialog.

>>5304801
Disassemby of Japanese DQ1 reveals that actually most of the CHR ROM is level data rather than graphics, which occupy only 12k out of a 32k ROM. The game reads the level data during the VBLANK and then swaps the CHR data back in. The US conversion moves most of the level data into the PRG and has an expanded CHR to fit the added sprites. Along with of course an SRAM for game saving.

Neat, huh?

>>5304801
>and more space-consuming English dialog

The perennial curse of console RPGs pre-PS1. A single katakana is equal to two letters in the Latin alphabet so many RPGs either had shortened/simplified English dialog or in the case of stuff like FF3 and Mother 2, they just didn't bother with a US release at all.

Someone just watch a avgn episode

>>5304832
Of course they did complete a US localization of Earthbound 2, it was just never released because Nintendo decided the cost wasn't worth it. Mother 2 was already 384k and I think the US ROM would have been something like 512k.

>>5304832
And that's considering English is more compact than many other languages which use the Latin alphabet.

>>5304832
>>5304843
You guys are confusing me.

>>5296786
You have to refine your trolling skills, kiddo

>>5304852
I'm saying Nintendo did finish a US localization of Mother 2 then decided the Clydesdale-sized ROMs needed were too pricey so they said fuck it. The prototype was eventually leaked.

>>5304854
Ha. You couldn't resist attempting to get the last word.

>>5304856
Nintendo finished and released a US localization of Mother 2. It was called Earthbound. You may have heard of it.

>>5304858
Exactly, i'm a troll so powerful i'll always subvert your expectations my poor, miserable maggot devoid of destiny

As for the rest, US DQ2 is 2x the size of Japanese DQ2. The graphics are identical but the US version adds an extended intro sequence. A lot of the ROM isn't used though. Also Japanese DQ2 is password save just like the first game and the passwords are unfathomably long.

DQ3 has battery saving in both the Japanese and US versions. Again the US version has a lengthy intro sequence not in the Japanese. It also fixed a sound glitch with the game music.

DQ4 doesn't differ that much and both versions have a single 1MB PRG ROM (there's no CHR ROM). The Japanese does have a slightly different/better intro sequence.

>>5304859
>>5304856
>>5304843
Are you sure aren't confused with the first Mother which was never released outside Japan?

>>5304818
The Famicom had only 2k of WRAM. Nintendo have always been notoriously cheap with RAM. For example, the GBA was originally to have 32k of WRAM but when they learned that the PSP would have 32MB, they bumped it up to 256k.

>>5304952
The GBA is quite a lot of fun to program and it really was the last oldskool 2D ROM cartridge-based game system. When they went to the DS, the cartridges used flash ROMs and the DS actually works by having RAM that it loads the cartridge ROM data into, it's not like the traditional setup where the ROM directly maps into the CPU address space.

>>5304960
Also fuck you for trying to start a "GBA is actually retro" argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2PbDCIngM

IDK, I always played MM with the characters' theme music turned off.

>>5304872
That's cool and all but what about Hydlide?

>>5305089
Ugh, Hydlide. Just saying the name gives you a gag reflex like you're about to puke.

https://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9903

>It's possible that mask ROMs in NES games were not CMOS, but NMOS too, like the CPU, especially for early (<1988) made games which had 128kb or more of PRG ROM (you know, those games which became hot when you play them for a long period of time). In this case, the AND behaviour is without a doubt what will be encountered.

I know SMB3 gets hot when you run it for a while. Dunno about other stuff.

>>5287318
What you mean you people?
You racist ???

>>5304968
honestly, the gba could have probably come out in 1996 easily but pokemon happened.

>>5305650
How so?

>>5305890
The original Gameboy was rapidly aging technology by the mid-90s and developers began demanding an improved handheld. Pokemon unexpectedly caused a huge increase in demand for the Gameboy so Nintendo delayed a next generation successor a few years when they realized they could milk the old war horse which cost them practically nothing to manufacture by that point.

>>5305650
By that logic DS and PSP should be legal here, since they are no more powerful than a Dreamcast.

>>5306573
Or, we get a /v2k/.

>>5306840
We have four video game boards, we don't need another one.

>>5306843
Why not? They're easily the most active boards on this site.

>>5286975
Based Hydlide!

>>5286975

The purpose of Hydlide is OMISE

>>5306865
>They're easily the most shitty boards on this site.
ftfy

>>5308289
(Bane voice) Then why are you here?

How many of you have actually played this game? What's your opinion on it?

>>5308306
I owned it as a kid, but compared to Zelda it was unapproachable. The world seemed more confusing due to the way it wraps around on itself, and as simplistic as it was, it took me a very long time to really understand combat having "modes". The magic really just doesn't get useful since the spells are both awkward to use and they don't reward experience when they connect, and it's linearity with how you approach that sprawling world with almost no clues to progress really felt unwelcoming. I'd put it in, grind for a bit, but never felt motivated enough to actually write down a password because I never felt I was making progress.

>>5308306
I played the X1 version, enjoyed and finished it. Couldn't get into the sequels, they made things too complicated.

>>5308306
It does feel like a baby Dragon Quest.

>>5308342
The single tune that plays through the entire game (about a 6-7 note tune) also drives you nuts pretty fast.

>>5287234
>>5287298
Still mad that FemGhostbusters sucked?

>>5309192
They're making a new Ghostbusters movie so why don't you stick that in your pipe and smoke it you fucking sexist.

>>5308306
It's fine. The people that give it shit just have no fucking clue the game is from 1984 and unfairly compare it to much later games. It's pretty fucking solid for its time.

>>5309270
Still it was bull that they released this years outdated game to Americans in 1989 just as a cheap, effortless attempt at competing with DQ1 which at least got some tweaks/improvements in its US localization over the original Famicom game.

>>5309274
>over the original Famicom game.
It was originally for the PC88.

>>5308306
I love it, and have played most sequels and ports.

It's an action grind with open world and some cryptic shit that is, when not interesting figuring out, at least hilarious in hindsight. It's also very short. You could literally git gud and finish the game in less time than AVGN spent making his terrible meme video.

>>5309332
>some cryptic shit that is, when not interesting figuring out, at least hilarious in hindsight
Hydlide Special also changed the most bullshit "puzzle" from the original Hydlide, making it at least possible to figure out out your own.
The original puzzle was some serious nonsense.

>>5309462
The one where you have to deflect the wizard?

>>5309479
Yes. In the original, you need to get hit by five fireballs without leaving the screen or killing a wizard, and then kill a wizard, or some shit like that. I'm not sure exactly what the qualifiers were.

>>5309294
DQ1 was NES and MSX2 only, there wasn't any JPC version.

>>5309492
Harmless compared to Druaga.

>>5309497
It is, and the game was clearly inspired by Druaga and its "try random shit until something works" model. But Druaga was meant to be played in an arcade with tons of people around that would try random crap until one person stumbled over a solution. Hydlide was meant to be played alone.

>>5309332
>some cryptic shit that is, when not interesting figuring out, at least hilarious in hindsight
The manual actually has all the information needed.

>>5309673
Does it?

>>5310447
No
http://www.neshq.com/games/h/hydlide/hydlide-man02.pdf

>>5310465
Post the Japanese manual.

>>5310465
Yes it does, unless you're a babby zoomer who needs every solution spoonfed to you.

>>5310495
>babby
Can you seriously not spell the word baby? Holy shit.

>>5310474
How would a Japanese manual help an American player?

>>5310552
Because Japan is the only thing that matters.

>>5310497
Do you seriously not know what the word babby is? Holy shit.

>>5311378
It's spelled baby, you fucking idiot. Learn to spell before you condescend to people

>>5311573
Not them but it's sad that you don't know how babby is formed.

>>5311573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39lHPHs8bV8

>>5310497

>So new he's still covered in afterbirth

>>5311594
>>5311602
>all these people who can't spell baby
Yikes.

>>5294412
But Hydlide was first. Zelda is just got Hydlide.

>>5312227
>Zelda is just got Hydlide.
What did he mean by this?

>>5312469
He just said Zelda Hydlide gets gotted.

>>5312482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqTpHhaKtL8

>>5312507
wtf lol

>>5287234

>>5312524
This makes a really good reaction image.

>>5287234
I too laugh at buttblasted minorities

>>5313531
So, yourself?

>>5308306
I've finished it. It's like Dragon Warrior 1 in the sense that the game is almost nothing but grind, only it's worse here because the music's awful and you just wait for a couple minutes to heal. If it wasn't for the "wait to heal" deal the game would be over in 15 minutes

>>5314136
The music's awful in DW1 as well.

>>5313725
Know your place, brownie.

>>5314506
It's not nearly as bad as Hydlide which has exactly one 6-note tune that plays for the entire fucking game. I actually rather like the overworld music in DQ1, it's charming.

>>5314523
My place is at the top. You can lick my feet.

I can't believe you've done this.

>>5315730
Walk...

Hrm.

Yo, Hydlide...

Ho, ho, ho.

Oh...

>>5286975
is this the one with the live actors?

>>5318205