/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5374172
All bow to our new king.

>>5374172
Most people who’ve called it hard were in elementary school when the game came out. You had to be there, kid. *crack, sip*

genesis port was the best version of the game

>>5374178
based and redpilled

>dude, I actually managed to guess and respond in time by the second run
>I have no proof, but totally believe me
/v/-tier thread.

>>5374172
Congratulations. You only just scratched the tip of the agonizing difficulty that is Battletoads.

>>5374178
Uglier graphics, shittier music, and not even an ending.

>>5374174
Is that a soda? Filthy neckbeard.

>>5374184
Honestly it's not that unbelievable, the response times required are easily within normal human reaction times.

>>5374184
>guess
Why the fuck would I have to guess when the game gives you warnings?

>>5374189
>Uglier graphics, shittier music
No. You can argue some effects are missing but the graphics look objectively better.

>>5374198
*AND music.

We looked into it and came to the sneaking suspicion that because Rare were a PAL region developer, they coded the game around 50Hz and didn't bother testing it on NTSC NESes or monitors, because a quick playthrough of the European release of Battletoads finds that the more murderous parts like Clinger Winger and Rat Race become much easier.

>>5374201
It doesn't even have the pause beat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRPXRHS4XNQ

>>5374202
More likely Rare knew about the regional difference and intentionally chose not to adjust it as a way to be dicks to all the dumb kids who bought this thinking it would be like Ninja Turtles.

>>5374202
They obviously realized their mistake, since the JP port, and all ports afterwards were much easier than the US NES release, in addition to being slowed down.

The graphics look excellent though, close to 16-bit level. I give them that.

>>5374212
The ports weren't done by Rare but by other developers.

>>5374219
Must be why they're better than the original.

>>5374172
Have fun with the fire level and clinger winger, smartass.

So the takeaway I get here is that you should just play the Famicom release instead of the US one.

>>5374172
Nice troll. It's impossible to beat on the second try because it requires memorisation

>>5374172
I beat it on the very first try

git gud

>>5374229
Play the genesis. Don't listen to the nostalgia fuckwad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PjKbt9TB-k

>>5374248
It's like someone coated the NES version is Vaseline

>>5374248
Genesis version has worse music and the smash hit sounds are limp compared to the NES version.

>>5374251
That's ironic because the genesis version runs at higher resolution.

>>5374261
in that case i'm doubly surprised they fucked it up this bad.

>>5374264
Fucked up by improving in every single way? You're just blinded by nostalgia.

>>5374267
> shit music
> vasaline graphics
> released a generation too late
> they fucked up the dark queens tits
> pales in comparison to snes battletoads vs double dragon

>>5374172
Battletoads isn't actually that hard. If you compare it to something like I Wanna Be The Guy, it's a cakewalk.

>>5374274
Retarded bait from a retarded nintoddler

>>5374283
thanks for proving my point with those shitty genesis pencils.

The difficultys always been a meme pushed by the "Im such a retro gamer xD" types who played no games from the time period besides the Zeldas, Marios, Megamans and maybe Castlevanias. If youve got any experience playing NES games youll know its a meme, and then youve got arcades where the easy games were harder than this.

>>5374248
Taste my ass, bitchdick.
>>5374283
>more detail is inherently better

>>5374296
>shitty genesis pencils

They have more detail and color variety than the NES version, and you can objectively see the difference in resolution. You're trolling.

what is the best battlefrogs game besides the NES one

That isn't even the hardest level in battletoads.

If you play it on a CRT with a legit controller and you're an adult it's not that bad... however. The later levels are on fact maddening.

>>5375249
This is bait right
What does a CRT have to do with being good at the game?

>>5374196
confirmed didn't get to the end.

>>5375252
That post just gave me a stroke. Because the reaction times on a CRT are 10 to 40ms faster than LCD screens, which aren't usually that noticeable but in games that require lightning fast reflexes made for CRT screen it adds up. Although modern LED screens now have "game mode" that lowers that down a bit closer to CRT speeds. It just has to do with the tech in the flatscreens having to redraw the entire screen and buffer it to look pretty while CRTs would just barf the light on the glass indiscriminately.

>>5375162
It's not even a particularly hard level once you understand it's basically all up and down. Just follow the pattern. There are a few seconds that are deliberately out of pattern though but after a few tries you'll know when it happens. The only thing that really fucks you over is the island jumps because the perspective in this game is really fucked up.

>>5375345
A good test is to boot up SMB. When Mario gets hit by an enemy, he flickers. On many HDTVs, you don't get any flicker because they can't update the screen fast enough. If you set game mode and he flickers properly, it's doing what it's supposed to.

>>5375386
>few seconds
sections*

>>5374172
It's a bitch on 2-player.

>>5374172
>been hearing this stage is the hardest
Yeah? Which subreddit?

>>5374172
It’s not even the hardest part of that game in particular.

>>5374172
definitely remember this being an absolute bitch on 2 player. I could make it through solo, but honestly it gets much more difficult after the hyper bike stage

>>5374172
>beat it on second try

I don't believe you. I just, simply don't believe you.

>>5374172
Nah, you are fine, this is unironically one of the easiest and most consistent stages in the game.

I think there are plenty of people who do struggle with it, but I had a similar experience to yours when I first started playing. For my money "Volkmire's Inferno" is the toughest level in the game, but most of the post-turbo tunnel stages are more difficult than the turbo tunnel.

Everyone is different OP and this game is definitely a lot harder as a kid. If it wasn't for the final checkpoint I'd probably agree with you. I just can't seem to consistently beat it but I usually do only dying once or twice.

I decided to finally beat this game because it had been haunting me my whole life and I can finally beat the game every time I try. I actually find the snake pit to be the hardest level. It's just too easy to fuck up the jumps. I find Clinger Winger easy as hell though and I pretty much never die on it.

>>5374320
No, he's right. The Genny pencils look flat, while the NES pencils look like they're part of the scenery.

>light airy combat, no punch or satisfaction to anything
>hideous intermission screens
>inconsistent art style, enemies look like they shouldn't even be in the same fucking game
>pressing up or down while in the turbo tunnel sends you immediatley to the opposite side, lacking the precision of the NES game
The decent thing the Genesis port has is the music
Kill yourselves if you actually think the Genesis port is better gameplay wise

The entirety of Battletoads is, and I'm serious, easy. Everything is either memorization or reflex based. If you've got good reflexes and the patience to memorize layouts, you'll easily one-shot every level. I think the reason people think it's so hard is because they expect to be able to do everything in one run like most other games and when they get a game over they just give up rather than going back and finding that whatever parts they died to are now easy to avoid.

>>5374172
It’s not even the hardest stage in that game. The only reason it’s famous is because it’s a casual filter that btfo a ton of faggots in the 80s who never even saw the rest of the game.

>>5374172
I remember it being far harder when I was young, but when I got older, I routinely clear it in one go. Could just be muscle memory though.

>>5374218
Bits don’t refer to artistic quality.

>>5375082
The one with double dragon

>>5374172
>This isn't even bait.

But it is.

>>5378798
>fall down random hole in Terra Tubes
>spikes on the bottom which you will fall down on unless you specifically hold the direction required preemptively
>reflexes only

>>5378863
>memorization or reflex
>memorization

>>5374172
It got that reputation because back then most kids never played the second half of the game. Most kids game overed at the turbo tunnel or the snake pit if they took the level skip. Come back and brag after you've beaten the game

>>5378865
Don't correct me ever again, you stupid motherfucker. I swear to god if I could see you right now, I would stomp your skull in so hard, it'd be nothing but a pile of dust.

>>5374172
get to the snake level faggot and pass that. you do that legit without any bs and ill suck your dick

>>5374280
fuck off the creator of that game said battletoads was harder

>>5374243
I beat it and yet I've never played it.

>>5378798
>it's easy when you know exactly what to do and perfectly execute it
well, when you look at it that way...

>>5379083
And no using the hidden warp zone.

>>5379445
there are a lot of other games where you can know what to do and how to do it but it can stll be very difficult. the nes castlevanias come to mind. battletoads on the other hand becomes a breeze when you know what to do and how to do it because what you're doing is usually very simple stuff like moving up and down in rhythm

>>5375082
arcade

>>5374172
>Buys rare replay
>plays battletoads
>uses the rewind button to not die
>gets to this level
>still dies even though he can rewind
“I beat it on my second try!”

>>5378798
>The entirety of Battletoads is, and I'm serious, easy.

The thing is when most people, including people that frequent a retro video game message board, consider it difficult then the game IS difficult. Most people can't beat it for a good reason. If Battletoads isn't difficult you might as well consider every fucking game easy. This is coming from someone who has beaten the game over 5 times this year alone.

To be completely honest i find level 2 to be harder than the turbo tunnel. Moving and attacking feels so clunky when you're on that rope

>>5374172
OP, let this be a lesson to you. Never believe e-celebs or the people that parrot the bullshit they spout.

I beat this when I was in grade school. I also beat TMNT on NES in grade school. Yes the water level sucks but it's easy to git gud.

Neither were as hard as Bart vs. the Space Mutants.

>>5378798
If Battletoads is easy, what is considered hard then? The other game that springs to mind is Bayou Billy, but that game is mainly hard because the beat em up parts control like shit and you can lose lives instantly during the jeep parts.

>>5380992
Arcade games are way harder on average especially when played for 1cc's and score like god intended. Even Battletoads arcade is way harder, give it a try some time. Not a very good game but yeah.

>>5381008
Will yeah but even Battletoads arcade has a few sneaky ways of fucking you over intentionally, like the laser gun doing no real damage until the last shot, making Rash really bad with it because his burst fire is so long that it triggers counter attacks by big guys before they take damage. Or how Karnath is invulnerable for the first couple minutes of the fight.
The game is a better beat em up than the NES version though, shame it got rushed out door towards the end, or they ran outta budget

>>5374242

the game tells you where the walls will appear. there's no memorization required. battletoads is a hard game, but the difficulty of that level is severely overrated.

>>5374209
I wanted the game as a kid, because I thought that it would be like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. But I blame the bastard reviewers of my country's Nintendo magazine. The review said that it was much better than Turtles games, and that now Turtles is stuff for pussies, babies and faggots and you should play Battletoads instead. Gamestore on my town had Tmnt 2 and Battletoads, and dad would buy me one of them, that I wanted. So instead of getting a full beat em up game, I got that shareware nes game with 2 and half playable levels, because the review had brainwashed me completely. We had no internet, so these bad reviews were only source of information about games.

>>5382028

battletoads >>> tmnt > tmnt 2

>>5382041
Maybe for a retrogamer, but not for a 8 year old kid. Basically I wouldn't play neither of them anymore, but I answered the thread because it triggered my ptsd.

>>5374173
fpbp

>>5374172
Congrats OP you beat a level in a game that people beat when they were literal children

>>5374172
now try rug ride in disneys aladdin on genesis

>>5374172
>been hearing this stage is the hardest stage in any game ever since there's been a gaming
No, that would be the sewer level. The first speeder level is just a scrub filter.

I'm terrible at videogames and I have no doubt OP is better than me at them.

However he did not beat turbo tunnel on the second try.

You know how OP says this isn't bait? It's 100% bait and untrue. Because you have to know what way the blocks are coming at you and still it's incredibly hard.

When I was a kid I got Super Chase HQ as a gift. I beat it on my first day playing it. Then I never managed to beat it again.

>>5382168
Why? The game lets you skip that stage after three crashes.

>>5378798

>Everything is either memorization or reflex based

Congrats, you just described every game ever- "If you know what to do, you can finish it easily!"