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5900640 No.5900640 [Reply] [Original]

They've fixed all the bugs in the original arcade game: https://www.mortalkombatplus.com/games/ultimate-mk3

>> No.5900751

>requires registration for download
No thanks.

>> No.5900864

>fixed after 24 years
This implies that there was some kind of game breaking thing that was just annulled. But it's more like a progression of cosmetic and technical features that have been implemented and there's nothing more they're interested in doing. Still pretty cool though.

>> No.5900935

>>5900864
Crash in Subway stage cause by Scorpion's pack fatality or just plain Shang Tsung in Randper Kombat is not considered game breaking?

>> No.5901008

>>5900640
I'd rather play the original. I don't have to create an account to get it.

>> No.5901241

>>5900640
This is ROM hack by amateurs, right? I'll settle for nothing less than the original arcade team. I've been burned before, so I'll only play monster hacks by pros, and maybe old hands (like Pyron, and other experienced hackfags). I've never even heard of anyone involved in the project, so it's a pass from me.

>> No.5901457

Wow they made a lot of improvements.

>> No.5901464
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5901464

did they fix the cheating ai?

>> No.5901465

>Stage rotation fixes:

>No longer required to repeat UMK3 stages >twice before MK3 stages appear

>Bridge/Soul Chamber/Balcony loop removed

>Uppercut stage transition is remembered and >stage is marked in rotation so stage does not >repeat for next match

>Start in random stage within stage rotation

holy fucking shit finally

>> No.5901468

>>5901464
ummm, cheap ai is a feature not a bug

>> No.5901472
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5901472

someone upload this to archive

>> No.5901506

>>5900935
Again, these are things that could have been fixed sooner (and probably have). This implies that there was some "eureka!" moment where someone ponied up and figured something out, whereas this is just a giant list of funsies they decided to stop adding to.

>> No.5901523
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5901523

holy shit I started in the subway

>> No.5901557
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5901557

>>5901464
fucking bullshit

>> No.5901561
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5901561

wtf is this shit?

>> No.5901568

>>5901464
stop ducking

>> No.5901597

>>5901561
Looks like the textures for his ninja uniform didn't completely load... cool bug

>> No.5901598

>>5901557
>>5901464
>not just divekicking and shiva stomping your way through the towers

>> No.5901602

>>5900640
Netherrealm fixed all the problems by just making MK9.

>> No.5901604

>>5901557
How the hell are you supposed to counter this?

>> No.5901608

>>5901464
>>5901557
>trusty ice shot never fails
>she'll never expect ANOTHER ice shot
>ah, but this time...

I used to be able to 1cc whatever revision of MK3 (not UMK3) we had at the local arcade with Smoke just by spearing, throwing low punches until the guy stumbled, then throwing another spear etc. The CPU would never block and it registered as a 100% damage combo, even though it isn't. Maybe they cranked the difficulty down for some reason, I dunno, but MK is always vulnerable to simple exploits like that because the AI is cheating BS but very primitive.

>> No.5901659

>>5901604
Maybe not spamming projectiles and sitting immobile against the character who explicitly has a built-in temporary projectile immunity in a game with dial-a-combos?

The AI in MK3 is rather susceptible to smart usage of normal moves - regular jabs and HK (or roundhouse) for anti-air, the ever-popular divekick spam, and a few other abilities that are hard to react against (Jax's "Gotcha!"), and you can still punish their whiffed projectiles with your own projectiles.

The one and only thing you can never rely upon against MK AI is regular throws, because the AI will simply register the input before you and throw you before you have the chance to. However, some characters with air throws (Jax, Scorpion) can use them right after connecting an air punch for a fairly solid chunk of health.

In other words, you just git gud. A projectile-based playstyle also works if you play it right, especially against characters who are fond of dashing (Sub-Zero can often punish a Shao Kahn dash with his freeze). But you definitely don't want to do that against fucking Jade.

>> No.5901774

>>5901464
>>5901557
All AI sucks and has to cheat. Stop wasting your time on it, best case scenario you learn to fight AI really well and so think you don't suck then go online, get stomped and then throw a tantrum over how mean the FGC is.

>> No.5901808

>>5901774
Completely true. I thought I was hot shit at SF2 back in the day, but the first time I played any online matches, I got brutally anally raped repeatedly.

>> No.5901841

>>5901808
It's good when you're new to a game learning the moves, timing etc and practicing combo execution but beyond that it really is useless to actively detrimental as well as being nowhere near as fun.

>> No.5901843

>>5901241

Please don't compare advanced romhacking like this to Pyron and his hex editor changing colors around.

>> No.5901910
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>>5901843
But I like changing colors around.

>> No.5901951

>>5901464
,>Ai Input Steals not fixed

Fuck this

>> No.5901954

>>5900640
Nice
*hides thread*

>> No.5901958
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5901958

>>5901464
>>5901557
>>5901659
Can we just admit that the game sucks because of the shit Ai which was made to steal quarter's?

>> No.5901981

>>5901464
it reads your input you stupid fuck so stop doing the same thing.

>> No.5902001

>>5901464
Man, Jade has like no hips
how about they fix that?

>> No.5902046

>>5901958
The AI is the least of the game's problems. Shitty AI is in all fighting games.

>> No.5902059

>>5902001
This. How did they fuck up that bad with that pancake ass. Looks like a dude.

>> No.5902071
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>>5902046
You mean superior AI because you hoo-mans simply can't compete with superior reflexes.

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>>5902071

>> No.5902140

>playing Mortal Komshit
Since when do plebs post on /vr/

>> No.5902179

>>5902071
You got it backwards. AI sucks so much at dealing with human players that devs have to make it literally cheat, read inputs, do charge moves without charging etc just to make it a challenge.

>> No.5902183

>mortal kombat
fuck off to reddit.

>> No.5902205

>>5902183
>Mortal Kombat = Reddit
Jesus Christ is there anything that doesn't summon the R*ddit bogeyman on this board?

>> No.5902212

>>5902205
>Jesus Christ

fuck off to reddit.

>> No.5902215
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5902215

>>5902059
>pancake ass

>> No.5902219
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5902219

>>5900640
>playing fighting games against the computer
Son, that's not how it works

>> No.5902223

>>5902215
>>5902059
lol chubby chasers
not everyone's into fat bitches

>> No.5902236 [DELETED] 

mortal niggers should leave /vr/.

>> No.5902249
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5902249

>>5902215

>> No.5902257

>>5902236
>>5902183
>STOP TALKING ABOUT RETRO GAMES REEEEEEEE!!!!
It may be shit games, but at least they're actually talking about a retro game unlike you, /v/irgin scum.

>> No.5902258

shit games don't deserve threads.

>> No.5902285

>>5902094
until the end, I was waiting for raiden to get thrown

>> No.5902286

>>5902258
What amazing games are you here to discuss?

>> No.5902376

>register to download
wow, feels like 1999

>> No.5902396

>>5901659
>Maybe not spamming projectiles
you mean the spear and freeze, which are the most iconic moves in all of fighting games? If I can't spam those moves all day then I'd rather play fucking street fighter.

>> No.5902625

>>5902396
They're great moves but still need to be used strategically. Any game you can beat by spamming one or two moves is garbage.

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>>5901602
And added new problems

>> No.5902767

>>5902179
>charge moves
>Mortal Kombat

Nah, Boon's just a hack programmer

>> No.5902776

mortal plebbitors out.

>> No.5902792

>>5902376
>>5900751
Try Ultimate Cup Edition then. It's got similar features, maybe not as many bug fixes and no need to register. I'd link the facebook page but this site seems to have an issue with that site, labeling my reply spam.

>> No.5902794

>>5902376
Like most things, it takes one person to register and upload it elsewhere
The internet will make it so

>> No.5902816

>cpu is programmed to never be hit by projectiles, ever
>just use them strategically, bro
You fags don't even play this game.

>> No.5902993

>>5902001
by not using inferior white piggu and editing color palette

>> No.5903003

>>5902816
Don't waste your time with the shit tier single player. What part of this is confusing to you?

>> No.5903009

>>5902767
I was speaking in generalities. All single player AI cheats the system where it can in an attempt to make it challenging.

>> No.5903286

>>5902642
Character Called NIGHTWOLF
>Is a man
>Fights During the Day
>Not called Dayman

>> No.5903304
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5903304

Wake me up when they fix Trilogy.

>> No.5903312

>>5903304
It just gets better and better.

>> No.5903348

>>5903312
Holy fuck you weren't kidding. That last 5-7 seconds is intense.

>> No.5903360

>>5901843
>actually making the claim that a false equivalency has been made, and that hex editing, as it pertains to an entire game, isn't in any way an arduous task
You do it then, faggot. It's just as time consuming as any other kind of hack, and as the other anon pointed out, the hackers are unknown, so you won't have any idea of the quality of the work until you've played it.

>> No.5904790

>>5902792
>Ultimate Cup Edition
>fecesbook
forwhatpurpose.jpg

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5904817

>>5903304
HOLY..............................

>> No.5904823

>>5903304
You gotta be pretty good to make all that happen tho

>> No.5906636

FUCK THIS THREAD AND FUCK MORTAL NIGGERS.

>> No.5908330

>>5904823
That's the appeal of it for the ones who still play. It's a broken janky mess but that leaves a lot of room for doing weird broken shit.

>> No.5908829

>>5902642
That mask is for vaping, he's always at least 5% high, what is the problem?

>> No.5908916

>>5903009
Chess.

>> No.5909412

>>5900640
Remember this game as a kid on SNES. I got blisters on thumbs from playing, and I didn't know what I was doing, just pressed buttons. Never learned any move, except from randomly pressing correct combo. Remember my friend once waited for me to get back from school because he got to the last level with Shao Kahn, after months of playing. Got his ass kicked in like 15 seconds. Fun times, would repeat.

>> No.5909419

>>5908829
If we take it off...

>> No.5910030

>>5908916
I was talking about fighting games. Chess is less complex and happens in turns which can be seconds to minutes long, both of which give the computer a lot of advantage.

>> No.5910426

>>5906636
Racism Is not allowed here Nazi Bigot

>> No.5910429
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5910429

>>5901597
>Texture
>Sprite

>> No.5910476

>>5901774
>All AI sucks
Ryu at the end of Sakura's arcade mode in A2

>> No.5910571

>>5900640

Lol having to pay for roms if you have the arcade board.

Peak boomer though having to register, patch, and use a old version of mame 64. The input is horrible on that version vs groovymame. There has to be a way to use it on groovymame.

I remember on older versionsof mame you could bypass crc checks for roms. How I got mk2+ to work.

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>>5901464
there are ways to exploit the MK3 AI. if you perform a sweep after any knockdown, it's 100% guaranteed that they jump back as long as they have room (they'll block if in the corner). if you're fast enough, you can exploit this with projectiles because it's likely they'll just run at you after jumping and won't block a projectile follow up. any character with a stun can loop the AI into this behavior.

>> No.5911017

>>5900935
http://www.mamecheat.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12417

>> No.5911158

>>5910943
now do that against jade

>> No.5911264

>>5901464
>>5901557
Wow you are NOT good at Mortal Kombat. The AI isn't doing anything to you that a good human player couldn't or wouldn't do.

>> No.5911445

>>5911264
The issue is you would be extremely unlikely to ever encounter a player that good IRL at your local arcade whereas you fight this type 100% of them when versing the AI ladder.

>> No.5911447

>>5911445
>100% of them

100% of the time I mean

>> No.5911462

>>5903286
FIGHTER OF THE NIGHTMAN

>> No.5911502

>>5911158
You can't do cheap exploits against the GOAT

>> No.5911507

>>5911264
>The AI isn't doing anything to you that a good human player couldn't or wouldn't do.
Jade is doing 3 commands in less than half a second
>move back/forward
>invincibility
>run
>combo
Sometimes she even does the invincibility move during a run, which is almost impossible for a human player to do.
Don't talk shit.

>> No.5911801

>>5911158
it works all the same m8

>> No.5911861

>>5911507
>almost impossible
>almost

git gud noob saibot

>> No.5912642

>>5911861
>Noob Saibot
LK LK LK LK
Repeat x99

>> No.5913170

>>5901561
Rob Liefeld's Cable dressed in blue.

>> No.5913215

>>5903304
My mind cannot grasp what's happening.

>> No.5913224

>>5913215
Elite level play